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DIY stainless steel chimney liner installation
I need to replace my fireplace flue, and have gotten a couple of
estimates to have a stainless steel flexible liner installed ranging from $1500 to almost $3000. I wondered if this is a job I could do myself. There are a number of companies online that will sell the stainless liner, insulating material, T connector and chimney cap for around a thousand dollars (35' of 6" liner). Has anyone ever done this job? Did you have a good or bad experience? What tricks did you learn? Thanks. BC |
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On Dec 3, 3:57*pm, BCDrums wrote:
I need to replace my fireplace flue, and have gotten a couple of estimates to have a stainless steel flexible liner installed ranging from $1500 to almost $3000. I wondered if this is a job I could do myself. There are a number of companies online that will sell the stainless liner, insulating material, T connector and chimney cap for around a thousand dollars (35' of 6" liner). Has anyone ever done this job? Did you have a good or bad experience? What tricks did you learn? Thanks. BC A lot depends on whether the chimney is straight up and down, or has one or more bends, one-story or two story, etc. Can you look up and see daylight when the damper is open? |
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... I need to replace my fireplace flue, and have gotten a couple of estimates to have a stainless steel flexible liner installed ranging from $1500 to almost $3000. I wondered if this is a job I could do myself. Your insurance company may have an opinion on this point. Some nowadays require that installations be made by a licensed technician (not just that they pass Fire Code inspection on completion.) -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 08:03:05 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
wrote: Your insurance company may have an opinion on this point. Some nowadays require that installations be made by a licensed technician (not just that they pass Fire Code inspection on completion.) AFAIK, there is no such thing as a licensed chimney installer where I live. Nor has any insurance company that I've had ever asked about my woodstove installation and it is listed in the house description. They would not know if I made any changes or repairs. |
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... AFAIK, there is no such thing as a licensed chimney installer where I live. Nor has any insurance company that I've had ever asked about my woodstove installation and it is listed in the house description. They would not know if I made any changes or repairs. Beware of future changes. In Canada, the Fire Code is the only part of the building code that is retroactive (i.e. can be enforced on existing stove installations previously approved as OK.) This happened here when the fire code was amended (e.g. adding requirements for an overhead heat shield.) The home insurance company required inspection of all known stoves and if substandard required upgrading and certification by a WET-qualified inspector (week-long provincial course.) The insurance agent said this was prompted by an increase in claims for damage by stoves, which turned out not to be true. My later impression was that no staff of either agent or company had any familiarity with wood or coal stoves, and simply attempted to enforce the Fire Code. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 11:50:01 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
wrote: Beware of future changes. In Canada, the Fire Code is the only part of the building code that is retroactive (i.e. can be enforced on existing stove installations previously approved as OK.) This happened here when the fire code was amended (e.g. adding requirements for an overhead heat shield.) The home insurance company required inspection of all known stoves and if substandard required upgrading and certification by a WET-qualified inspector (week-long provincial course.) The insurance agent said this was prompted by an increase in claims for damage by stoves, which turned out not to be true. My later impression was that no staff of either agent or company had any familiarity with wood or coal stoves, and simply attempted to enforce the Fire Code. I hope that does not spread here, but it probably will. |
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On Dec 4, 12:21*am, "hr(bob) "
wrote: On Dec 3, 3:57*pm, BCDrums wrote: I need to replace my fireplace flue, and have gotten a couple of estimates to have a stainless steel flexible liner installed ranging from $1500 to almost $3000. I wondered if this is a job I could do myself. There are a number of companies online that will sell the stainless liner, insulating material, T connector and chimney cap for around a thousand dollars (35' of 6" liner). Has anyone ever done this job? Did you have a good or bad experience? What tricks did you learn? Thanks. BC A lot depends on whether the chimney is straight up and down, or has one or more bends, one-story or two story, etc. *Can you look up and see daylight when the damper is open? It's a two story chimney plus another 6' into the basement. I have not pulled the furnace duct off the T connection at the wall, but I cannot see daylight up the fireplace flue. It has a top-damper on it, and a screen cap above that, which might kill enough light not to be able to see all the way up. I have thought about putting a video camera and small flashlight on a tape measure and lowering it down the chimney to see what's what. AT |
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On Dec 4, 12:21*am, "hr(bob) "
wrote: On Dec 3, 3:57*pm, BCDrums wrote: I need to replace my fireplace flue, and have gotten a couple of estimates to have a stainless steel flexible liner installed ranging from $1500 to almost $3000. I wondered if this is a job I could do myself. There are a number of companies online that will sell the stainless liner, insulating material, T connector and chimney cap for around a thousand dollars (35' of 6" liner). Has anyone ever done this job? Did you have a good or bad experience? What tricks did you learn? Thanks. BC A lot depends on whether the chimney is straight up and down, or has one or more bends, one-story or two story, etc. *Can you look up and see daylight when the damper is open? I haven't removed the furnace duct to attempt to see up the flue, but I can't see daylight through the fireplace flue. That may have to do with the top-damper and the cap above it, or maybe there's a bend in the flue. The chimney is two stories with another 6' down to the basement. |
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On Dec 4, 3:32*pm, BCDrums wrote:
On Dec 4, 12:21*am, "hr(bob) " wrote: On Dec 3, 3:57*pm, BCDrums wrote: I need to replace my fireplace flue, and have gotten a couple of estimates to have a stainless steel flexible liner installed ranging from $1500 to almost $3000. I wondered if this is a job I could do myself. There are a number of companies online that will sell the stainless liner, insulating material, T connector and chimney cap for around a thousand dollars (35' of 6" liner). Has anyone ever done this job? Did you have a good or bad experience? What tricks did you learn? Thanks. BC A lot depends on whether the chimney is straight up and down, or has one or more bends, one-story or two story, etc. *Can you look up and see daylight when the damper is open? It's a two story chimney plus another 6' into the basement. I have not pulled the furnace duct off the T connection at the wall, but I cannot see daylight up the fireplace flue. It has a top-damper on it, and a screen cap above that, which might kill enough light not to be able to see all the way up. I have thought about putting a video camera and small flashlight on a tape measure and lowering it down the chimney to see what's what. AT- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - With a fireplace and furnace you would need two liners, no? I'm about to install one for my water heater. Looks pretty straightforward to me. But with mine I have the water heater exhaust to connect to. I have no idea how you connect the liner to the top of a fireplace? |
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On 12/4/2011 2:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 11:50:01 -0500, "Don Phillipson" wrote: Beware of future changes. In Canada, the Fire Code is the only part of the building code that is retroactive (i.e. can be enforced on existing stove installations previously approved as OK.) This happened here when the fire code was amended (e.g. adding requirements for an overhead heat shield.) The home insurance company required inspection of all known stoves and if substandard required upgrading and certification by a WET-qualified inspector (week-long provincial course.) The insurance agent said this was prompted by an increase in claims for damage by stoves, which turned out not to be true. My later impression was that no staff of either agent or company had any familiarity with wood or coal stoves, and simply attempted to enforce the Fire Code. I hope that does not spread here, but it probably will. I think that Nanny state nonsense originated here |
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On Dec 4, 3:45*pm, "
wrote: On Dec 4, 3:32*pm, BCDrums wrote: On Dec 4, 12:21*am, "hr(bob) " wrote: On Dec 3, 3:57*pm, BCDrums wrote: I need to replace my fireplace flue, and have gotten a couple of estimates to have a stainless steel flexible liner installed ranging from $1500 to almost $3000. I wondered if this is a job I could do myself. There are a number of companies online that will sell the stainless liner, insulating material, T connector and chimney cap for around a thousand dollars (35' of 6" liner). Has anyone ever done this job? Did you have a good or bad experience? What tricks did you learn? Thanks. BC A lot depends on whether the chimney is straight up and down, or has one or more bends, one-story or two story, etc. *Can you look up and see daylight when the damper is open? It's a two story chimney plus another 6' into the basement. I have not pulled the furnace duct off the T connection at the wall, but I cannot see daylight up the fireplace flue. It has a top-damper on it, and a screen cap above that, which might kill enough light not to be able to see all the way up. I have thought about putting a video camera and small flashlight on a tape measure and lowering it down the chimney to see what's what. AT- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - With a fireplace and furnace you would need two liners, no? The fireplace flue is fine and does not need to be replaced. The furnace flue has deteriorated after years of passing heating oil exhaust. That's the one I need to fix. I'm about to install one for my water heater. *Looks pretty straightforward to me. *But with mine I have the water heater exhaust to connect to. *I have no idea how you connect the liner to the top of a fireplace? I only have to mate it up with the exhaust duct from the furnace. It looks simple. Al T. |
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On Dec 4, 7:40*pm, BCDrums wrote:
On Dec 4, 3:45*pm, " wrote: On Dec 4, 3:32*pm, BCDrums wrote: On Dec 4, 12:21*am, "hr(bob) " wrote: On Dec 3, 3:57*pm, BCDrums wrote: I need to replace my fireplace flue, and have gotten a couple of estimates to have a stainless steel flexible liner installed ranging from $1500 to almost $3000. I wondered if this is a job I could do myself. There are a number of companies online that will sell the stainless liner, insulating material, T connector and chimney cap for around a thousand dollars (35' of 6" liner). Has anyone ever done this job? Did you have a good or bad experience? What tricks did you learn? Thanks. BC A lot depends on whether the chimney is straight up and down, or has one or more bends, one-story or two story, etc. *Can you look up and see daylight when the damper is open? It's a two story chimney plus another 6' into the basement. I have not pulled the furnace duct off the T connection at the wall, but I cannot see daylight up the fireplace flue. It has a top-damper on it, and a screen cap above that, which might kill enough light not to be able to see all the way up. I have thought about putting a video camera and small flashlight on a tape measure and lowering it down the chimney to see what's what. AT- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - With a fireplace and furnace you would need two liners, no? The fireplace flue is fine and does not need to be replaced. The furnace flue has deteriorated after years of passing heating oil exhaust. That's the one I need to fix. I'm about to install one for my water heater. *Looks pretty straightforward to me. *But with mine I have the water heater exhaust to connect to. *I have no idea how you connect the liner to the top of a fireplace? I only have to mate it up with the exhaust duct from the furnace. It looks simple. Al T.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That sounds a lot simpler than having to replace the fireplace flue. |
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On Dec 4, 8:40*pm, BCDrums wrote:
On Dec 4, 3:45*pm, " wrote: On Dec 4, 3:32*pm, BCDrums wrote: On Dec 4, 12:21*am, "hr(bob) " wrote: On Dec 3, 3:57*pm, BCDrums wrote: I need to replace my fireplace flue, and have gotten a couple of estimates to have a stainless steel flexible liner installed ranging from $1500 to almost $3000. I wondered if this is a job I could do myself. There are a number of companies online that will sell the stainless liner, insulating material, T connector and chimney cap for around a thousand dollars (35' of 6" liner). Has anyone ever done this job? Did you have a good or bad experience? What tricks did you learn? Thanks. BC A lot depends on whether the chimney is straight up and down, or has one or more bends, one-story or two story, etc. *Can you look up and see daylight when the damper is open? It's a two story chimney plus another 6' into the basement. I have not pulled the furnace duct off the T connection at the wall, but I cannot see daylight up the fireplace flue. It has a top-damper on it, and a screen cap above that, which might kill enough light not to be able to see all the way up. I have thought about putting a video camera and small flashlight on a tape measure and lowering it down the chimney to see what's what. AT- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - With a fireplace and furnace you would need two liners, no? The fireplace flue is fine and does not need to be replaced. The furnace flue has deteriorated after years of passing heating oil exhaust. That's the one I need to fix. I'm about to install one for my water heater. *Looks pretty straightforward to me. *But with mine I have the water heater exhaust to connect to. *I have no idea how you connect the liner to the top of a fireplace? I only have to mate it up with the exhaust duct from the furnace. It looks simple. Al T.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I agree. That's essentially what I;'m doing except I have to mate mine up to the water heater and mine will be 4". I guess for a furnace the liner will be larger diameter. |
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