ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are quiet and
go with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop
it just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i give it a spin,
it proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like something that
could be fixed?
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On 10/5/2011 7:17 PM, Steve Barker wrote:
ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are quiet and go
with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop it
just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i give it a spin, it
proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like something that could
be fixed?

If it spins freely when turned off, then it sounds like the motor has a
bad winding. Probably time for a new one. I saw a sleek stainless
steel one at lowe s! Just kidding, there are some old looking new fans
out there.

At Busch Beans General store they have two really old ceiling fans.
There is 1 motor that drives a flat belt that drives the fan, and on
that fan is another pulley with a flat belt that drives a second fan.
The belts looked like they are made of leather and the fans are about 10
foot apart making the belts about 20' long. How's that for looking old?

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:10:31 -0400, Tony Miklos
wrote:

On 10/5/2011 7:17 PM, Steve Barker wrote:
ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are quiet and go
with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop it
just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i give it a spin, it
proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like something that could
be fixed?

If it spins freely when turned off, then it sounds like the motor has a
bad winding. Probably time for a new one. I saw a sleek stainless
steel one at lowe s! Just kidding, there are some old looking new fans
out there.

At Busch Beans General store they have two really old ceiling fans.

Hey, I was there in August. I think I remember those fans. They're
near Sevierville, Tennessee.

There is 1 motor that drives a flat belt that drives the fan, and on
that fan is another pulley with a flat belt that drives a second fan.
The belts looked like they are made of leather and the fans are about 10
foot apart making the belts about 20' long. How's that for looking old?

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:17:28 -0500, Steve Barker
wrote:

ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are quiet and
go with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop
it just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i give it a spin,
it proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like something that
could be fixed?

I dunno. I have a fan (way younger than your's) I'm getting through
another season. It would only nudge CW/CCW. I did get it to run
finally - somehow!

A friend suggested it might be a switch in the fan. The one to reverse
the blade up/down. Or the pull chain switch on the fan body.

I'm afraid to shut the fan off as it may not start again. But, I
prefer this ceiling fan run all the time. Getting above the bed for
replacing the fan will prove difficult.

A switch?

On Oct 5, 7:46*pm, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:17:28 -0500, Steve Barker

wrote:
ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. *I really like them, they are quiet and
go with my 1871 house. *When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop
it just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. *if i give it a spin,
it proceeds to run very slowly. *Does this sound like something that
could be fixed?

I dunno. I have a fan (way younger than your's) *I'm getting through
another season. It would only nudge CW/CCW. I did get it to run
finally - somehow!

A friend suggested it might be a switch in the fan. The one to reverse
the blade up/down. Or the pull chain switch on the fan body.

I'm afraid to shut the fan off as it may not start again. But, I
prefer this ceiling fan run all the time. Getting above the bed for
replacing the fan will prove difficult.

A switch?

Does anyone ever think of the most obvious. OIL THE FAN!!!

On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:02:50 -0700 (PDT), "hr(bob) "
wrote:

On Oct 5, 7:46*pm, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:17:28 -0500, Steve Barker

wrote:
ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. *I really like them, they are quiet and
go with my 1871 house. *When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop
it just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. *if i give it a spin,
it proceeds to run very slowly. *Does this sound like something that
could be fixed?

I dunno. I have a fan (way younger than your's) *I'm getting through
another season. It would only nudge CW/CCW. I did get it to run
finally - somehow!

A friend suggested it might be a switch in the fan. The one to reverse
the blade up/down. Or the pull chain switch on the fan body.

I'm afraid to shut the fan off as it may not start again. But, I
prefer this ceiling fan run all the time. Getting above the bed for
replacing the fan will prove difficult.

A switch?

Does anyone ever think of the most obvious. OIL THE FAN!!!

I can't speak for everyone. You do make a point for older fans,
though. Some fans cannot be oiled, right?

OP can tell us if the fan allows oiling.

On 10/5/2011 7:10 PM, Tony Miklos wrote:
On 10/5/2011 7:17 PM, Steve Barker wrote:
ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are quiet and go
with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop it
just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i give it a spin, it
proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like something that could
be fixed?

If it spins freely when turned off, then it sounds like the motor has a
bad winding. Probably time for a new one. I saw a sleek stainless steel
one at lowe s! Just kidding, there are some old looking new fans out there.

At Busch Beans General store they have two really old ceiling fans.
There is 1 motor that drives a flat belt that drives the fan, and on
that fan is another pulley with a flat belt that drives a second fan.
The belts looked like they are made of leather and the fans are about 10
foot apart making the belts about 20' long. How's that for looking old?

they have 6 or 8 fans driven off one small motor in the ceiling of the
Organ Stop Pizza in Mesa. Pretty cool!

thanks for the reply


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On 10/5/2011 7:46 PM, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:17:28 -0500, Steve Barker
wrote:

ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are quiet and
go with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop
it just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i give it a spin,
it proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like something that
could be fixed?

I dunno. I have a fan (way younger than your's) I'm getting through
another season. It would only nudge CW/CCW. I did get it to run
finally - somehow!

A friend suggested it might be a switch in the fan. The one to reverse
the blade up/down. Or the pull chain switch on the fan body.

I'm afraid to shut the fan off as it may not start again. But, I
prefer this ceiling fan run all the time. Getting above the bed for
replacing the fan will prove difficult.

A switch?

na, i tried that tonight. Switches all check good with an ohm meter .

thanks


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On 10/5/2011 8:02 PM, hr(bob) wrote:
On Oct 5, 7:46 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:17:28 -0500, Steve Barker

wrote:
ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are quiet and
go with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop
it just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i give it a spin,
it proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like something that
could be fixed?

I dunno. I have a fan (way younger than your's) I'm getting through
another season. It would only nudge CW/CCW. I did get it to run
finally - somehow!

A friend suggested it might be a switch in the fan. The one to reverse
the blade up/down. Or the pull chain switch on the fan body.

I'm afraid to shut the fan off as it may not start again. But, I
prefer this ceiling fan run all the time. Getting above the bed for
replacing the fan will prove difficult.

A switch?

Does anyone ever think of the most obvious. OIL THE FAN!!!

it turns quite freely. Not noisy.


--
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hr(bob) wrote:

Does anyone ever think of the most obvious. OIL THE FAN!!!

You think? It's only been running for forty years.

hr(bob) wrote:
On Oct 5, 7:46 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:17:28 -0500, Steve Barker

wrote:
ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are quiet and
go with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop
it just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i give it a spin,
it proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like something that
could be fixed?

I dunno. I have a fan (way younger than your's) I'm getting through
another season. It would only nudge CW/CCW. I did get it to run
finally - somehow!

A friend suggested it might be a switch in the fan. The one to reverse
the blade up/down. Or the pull chain switch on the fan body.

I'm afraid to shut the fan off as it may not start again. But, I
prefer this ceiling fan run all the time. Getting above the bed for
replacing the fan will prove difficult.

A switch?

Does anyone ever think of the most obvious. OIL THE FAN!!!
Hmmm,
Oil the fan or motor?

"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
hr(bob) wrote:

Does anyone ever think of the most obvious. OIL THE
FAN!!!

You think? It's only been running for forty years.


I have a pair of 30 year old Casablanca ceiling fans that
you cant oil.

Suppose I take a paint brush and some 10w30,
and paint a bunch of oil onto the fan. Seems like,
when it turns on, it will fling oil off, and make a
mess.

Should I use 20w50 instead?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"hr(bob) "
wrote in message
...

Does anyone ever think of the most obvious.
OIL THE FAN!!!

On 10/6/2011 5:34 AM, Ted wrote:
wrote in message
...
hr(bob) wrote:

Does anyone ever think of the most obvious. OIL THE
FAN!!!

You think? It's only been running for forty years.


I have a pair of 30 year old Casablanca ceiling fans that
you cant oil.


1970 vintage may or may not be oil-able. But in any case, at this point,
OP needs to take the fan down and field-strip it and blow it out and
de-gunk it, and see if that makes anything change. Oily dust and spider
webs can do all sorts of things. (Power it with an extension cord, hung
from a garage rafter or something.) Depending on how motor is designed,
local motor rebuild place may be able to rebuild motor. A new fan would
likely be cheaper, but if he has his heart set on keeping the same look
and having them all match, that may be an option.

Note well- when you take an old fan apart, mark which blade comes off of
which arm, and also make witness marks around edges of bracket, so you
can reassemble and hopefully not need to re-balance it.

--
aem sends....

Well, paint brush and a quart of 10w30, and paint some oil
onto the fan, and maybe drop cloths on everything in the
room.

--
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"Steve Barker" wrote in message
...


Does anyone ever think of the most obvious. OIL THE
FAN!!!

it turns quite freely. Not noisy.


--
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Some motors have a run capacitor. A bad run cap might give
these symptoms. I'd want to pull apart the housing around
the motor, and look for a capacitor.

If it were mine, I'd check the run cap before I paint
brushed a bunch of oil onto the fan, like the other poster
suggested. I doubt that oiling the fan will help much.

--
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"Steve Barker" wrote in message
...
ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40
yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was
going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are
quiet and
go with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from
a dead stop
it just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i
give it a spin,
it proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like
something that
could be fixed?
--
Steve Barker
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Yes, all that cutting through the air, sure is likely to
build up friction.

--
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"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
hr(bob) wrote:

Does anyone ever think of the most obvious. OIL THE
FAN!!!

You think? It's only been running for forty years.

Definitely the fan. Those blades, chopping through the air.
They sure need oiling.

--
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"Tony Hwang"
wrote in message ...


A switch?

Does anyone ever think of the most obvious. OIL THE
FAN!!!

Hmmm,
Oil the fan or motor?

Give me a quart of 10w30, and a paint brush, and a ladder,
and I'll oil your fan for you.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Ted" wrote in message
...

Does anyone ever think of the most obvious. OIL THE
FAN!!!

You think? It's only been running for forty years.


I have a pair of 30 year old Casablanca ceiling fans that
you cant oil.

Steve Barker wrote in news:L4adnbgF-
:

ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are quiet and
go with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop
it just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i give it a spin,
it proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like something that
could be fixed?

What brand?
Does it have a pc board?


I ask because I had (and still do have) 20 year old Casablanca that did
stuff you described. Based on model number, got a replacement board from
Casablanca for $17. 40 years old, much less likely to have a board.

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:17:28 -0500, Steve Barker
wrote:

ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are quiet and
go with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop
it just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i give it a spin,
it proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like something that
could be fixed?
I would love to know how it comes out. Oil, condenser, motor or just
what. I hope you let us know what happens.

ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are quiet and
go with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop
it just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i give it a spin,
it proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like something that
could be fixed?


*If you really love the fan, a motor shop can rebuild the motor for you.

On 10/6/2011 6:24 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Some motors have a run capacitor. A bad run cap might give
these symptoms. I'd want to pull apart the housing around
the motor, and look for a capacitor.

If it were mine, I'd check the run cap before I paint
brushed a bunch of oil onto the fan, like the other poster
suggested. I doubt that oiling the fan will help much.


i considered all the oiling remarks a joke. it turns quite freely and
without noise.


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On 10/6/2011 10:01 AM, Red Green wrote:
Steve wrote in news:L4adnbgF-
:

ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are quiet and
go with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop
it just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i give it a spin,
it proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like something that
could be fixed?

What brand?
Does it have a pc board?


I ask because I had (and still do have) 20 year old Casablanca that did
stuff you described. Based on model number, got a replacement board from
Casablanca for $17. 40 years old, much less likely to have a board.


uhhhh.... no pc board. LOL!


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On 10/6/2011 10:57 AM, joevan wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:17:28 -0500, Steve Barker
wrote:

ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are quiet and
go with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop
it just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i give it a spin,
it proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like something that
could be fixed?
I would love to know how it comes out. Oil, condenser, motor or just
what. I hope you let us know what happens.


will do. sounds like taking it down and exploring is in order.

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"hr(bob) " wrote in message
...

On Oct 5, 7:46 pm, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:17:28 -0500, Steve Barker

wrote:
ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are quiet and
go with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop
it just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i give it a spin,
it proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like something that
could be fixed?

I dunno. I have a fan (way younger than your's) I'm getting through
another season. It would only nudge CW/CCW. I did get it to run
finally - somehow!

A friend suggested it might be a switch in the fan. The one to reverse
the blade up/down. Or the pull chain switch on the fan body.

I'm afraid to shut the fan off as it may not start again. But, I
prefer this ceiling fan run all the time. Getting above the bed for
replacing the fan will prove difficult.

A switch?

Does anyone ever think of the most obvious. OIL THE FAN!!!

or move the bed!

On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 12:45:12 -0400, John Grabowski wrote:

ok, so i have these decades old fans, probably as much as 40 yrs old,
maybe more, they work fine until last night one of them was going very
very slow even though on high. I really like them, they are quiet and
go with my 1871 house. When i stopped it and start it from a dead stop
it just goes about 2 degrees cw then 2degrees ccw. if i give it a
spin, it proceeds to run very slowly. Does this sound like something
that could be fixed?


*If you really love the fan, a motor shop can rebuild the motor for you.

and if it has a suitable casing and you're a creative type, you might be
able to replace the motor with a modern one, but keep the original case,
hub and blades.

I suspect it has a dead winding - but it's possible that it's bad at the
solder joint at one end, so you may be able to fix it without a rewind.

cheers

Jules