My sister lives in an area where the power goes out frequently. She
has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a plug for her
so she can use a generator to keep her food from going bad. This is
never going to happen. Not so much because I would not do it for her,
it is more because after the first season or two of no maintenance on
her generator, it would not crank anyway. I know this from listening
to the kids complain about the four wheelers not working or the
lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would add a lock
out switch to her existing panel. This way, she could use anything in
her house. The only bad thing about doing this would be if she could
not use self control and try to overload the circuit. Having the
breaker trip a few times might give her the message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the bedrooms
and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.

In article ,
Metspitzer wrote:

My sister lives in an area where the power goes out frequently. She
has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a plug for her
so she can use a generator to keep her food from going bad. This is
never going to happen. Not so much because I would not do it for her,
it is more because after the first season or two of no maintenance on
her generator, it would not crank anyway. I know this from listening
to the kids complain about the four wheelers not working or the
lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would add a lock
out switch to her existing panel. This way, she could use anything in
her house. The only bad thing about doing this would be if she could
not use self control and try to overload the circuit. Having the
breaker trip a few times might give her the message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the bedrooms
and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.

A dirt-cheap, no-brain, zero-maintenance refrigerator backup plan for
power outages is a few bags of ice in the freezer. Stick them in the
fridge when the power is out and you've got an icebox that will last for
days.

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:11:24 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In article ,
Metspitzer wrote:

My sister lives in an area where the power goes out frequently. She
has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a plug for her
so she can use a generator to keep her food from going bad. This is
never going to happen. Not so much because I would not do it for her,
it is more because after the first season or two of no maintenance on
her generator, it would not crank anyway. I know this from listening
to the kids complain about the four wheelers not working or the
lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would add a lock
out switch to her existing panel. This way, she could use anything in
her house. The only bad thing about doing this would be if she could
not use self control and try to overload the circuit. Having the
breaker trip a few times might give her the message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the bedrooms
and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.

A dirt-cheap, no-brain, zero-maintenance refrigerator backup plan for
power outages is a few bags of ice in the freezer. Stick them in the
fridge when the power is out and you've got an icebox that will last for
days.

I have suggested that to her. Use a cooler for sandwich meat/milk
and leave the door to the fridge shut.

She lives in Alabama so it doesn't get really cold, but suggested that
she try to put a couple of those cooler ice packs outside and see if
they refreeze. (winter time outages, of course)

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:25:38 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:11:24 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In article ,
Metspitzer wrote:

My sister lives in an area where the power goes out frequently. She
has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a plug for her
so she can use a generator to keep her food from going bad. This is
never going to happen. Not so much because I would not do it for her,
it is more because after the first season or two of no maintenance on
her generator, it would not crank anyway. I know this from listening
to the kids complain about the four wheelers not working or the
lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would add a lock
out switch to her existing panel. This way, she could use anything in
her house. The only bad thing about doing this would be if she could
not use self control and try to overload the circuit. Having the
breaker trip a few times might give her the message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the bedrooms
and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.

A dirt-cheap, no-brain, zero-maintenance refrigerator backup plan for
power outages is a few bags of ice in the freezer. Stick them in the
fridge when the power is out and you've got an icebox that will last for
days.

I have suggested that to her. Use a cooler for sandwich meat/milk
and leave the door to the fridge shut.

She lives in Alabama so it doesn't get really cold, but suggested that
she try to put a couple of those cooler ice packs outside and see if
they refreeze. (winter time outages, of course)

If she has a source for Dry Ice when the power goes out, it will last
for days. I use it when traveling with seafood. Never lost any from
spoilage or had any thaw out. Caution handling it as it will burn you.

On 7/15/2011 1:56 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
My sister lives in an area where the power goes out frequently. She
has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a plug for her
so she can use a generator to keep her food from going bad. This is
never going to happen. Not so much because I would not do it for her,
it is more because after the first season or two of no maintenance on
her generator, it would not crank anyway. I know this from listening
to the kids complain about the four wheelers not working or the
lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would add a lock
out switch to her existing panel. This way, she could use anything in
her house. The only bad thing about doing this would be if she could
not use self control and try to overload the circuit. Having the
breaker trip a few times might give her the message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the bedrooms
and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.


My generator plugs into a transfer panel which controls freezers,
refrigerator, well and furnace, few lights and TV. Since not everything
runs or turns on at once, the generator can handle everything it is
connected to. It does not include big ticket items like electric range,
microwave, air conditioner or electric hot water heater.

If all your sister needs is to control refrigerator, a small generator
plugged into an extension cord would do. It is a PITA to make sure
gasoline is fresh and run every now and then to make sure lines are
clean and it works. My wife and I are getting older and I doubt if she
could handle it herself.

Metspitzer wrote in
:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:11:24 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In article ,
Metspitzer wrote:

My sister lives in an area where the power goes out frequently. She
has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a plug for
her so she can use a generator to keep her food from going bad.
This is never going to happen. Not so much because I would not do
it for her, it is more because after the first season or two of no
maintenance on her generator, it would not crank anyway. I know
this from listening to the kids complain about the four wheelers not
working or the lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would add a lock
out switch to her existing panel. This way, she could use anything
in her house. The only bad thing about doing this would be if she
could not use self control and try to overload the circuit. Having
the breaker trip a few times might give her the message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the bedrooms
and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.

A dirt-cheap, no-brain, zero-maintenance refrigerator backup plan for
power outages is a few bags of ice in the freezer. Stick them in the
fridge when the power is out and you've got an icebox that will last
for days.

I have suggested that to her. Use a cooler for sandwich meat/milk
and leave the door to the fridge shut.

She lives in Alabama so it doesn't get really cold, but suggested that
she try to put a couple of those cooler ice packs outside and see if
they refreeze. (winter time outages, of course)


Well I certainly learned something. They have electricity in Alabama
:-)

On Jul 15, 1:56*pm, Metspitzer wrote:
My sister lives in an area where the power goes out frequently. *She
has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a plug for her
so she can use a generator to keep her food from going bad. *This is
never going to happen. *Not so much because I would not do it for her,
it is more because after the first season or two of no maintenance on
her generator, it would not crank anyway. *I know this from listening
to the kids complain about the four wheelers not working or the
lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would add a lock
out switch to her existing panel. *This way, she could use anything in
her house. *The only bad thing about doing this would be if she could
not use self control and try to overload the circuit. *Having the
breaker trip a few times might give her the message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the bedrooms
and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.

I start my generator on the first weekend of every month and let it
run for five or ten minutes.

Metspitzer wrote:

My sister lives in an area where the power goes out frequently. She
has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a plug for her
so she can use a generator to keep her food from going bad. This is
never going to happen. Not so much because I would not do it for her,
it is more because after the first season or two of no maintenance on
her generator, it would not crank anyway. I know this from listening
to the kids complain about the four wheelers not working or the
lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would add a lock
out switch to her existing panel. This way, she could use anything in
her house. The only bad thing about doing this would be if she could
not use self control and try to overload the circuit. Having the
breaker trip a few times might give her the message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the bedrooms
and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.

Sounds like a case for one of the relatively inexpensive nat/lp gas
fueled automatic backup generator packages. Automatic transfer switch
for the loads it can handle, automatic exerciser, nat/lp fuel so no
gasoline going stale, etc. If you can make sure it gets an oil change
each year with good synthetic oil it should do just fine.

On 7/15/2011 2:48 PM, Red Green wrote:
wrote in
:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:11:24 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In ,
wrote:

My sister lives in an area where the power goes out frequently. She
has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a plug for
her so she can use a generator to keep her food from going bad.
This is never going to happen. Not so much because I would not do
it for her, it is more because after the first season or two of no
maintenance on her generator, it would not crank anyway. I know
this from listening to the kids complain about the four wheelers not
working or the lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would add a lock
out switch to her existing panel. This way, she could use anything
in her house. The only bad thing about doing this would be if she
could not use self control and try to overload the circuit. Having
the breaker trip a few times might give her the message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the bedrooms
and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.

A dirt-cheap, no-brain, zero-maintenance refrigerator backup plan for
power outages is a few bags of ice in the freezer. Stick them in the
fridge when the power is out and you've got an icebox that will last
for days.

I have suggested that to her. Use a cooler for sandwich meat/milk
and leave the door to the fridge shut.

She lives in Alabama so it doesn't get really cold, but suggested that
she try to put a couple of those cooler ice packs outside and see if
they refreeze. (winter time outages, of course)


Well I certainly learned something. They have electricity in Alabama
:-)

Watch it there boy, we even have flush toilets and indoor plumbing here
in Alabamastan. We even have rotary dial telephones. ^_^

TDD

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:26:17 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 7/15/2011 2:48 PM, Red Green wrote:
wrote in
:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:11:24 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In ,
wrote:

My sister lives in an area where the power goes out frequently. She
has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a plug for
her so she can use a generator to keep her food from going bad.
This is never going to happen. Not so much because I would not do
it for her, it is more because after the first season or two of no
maintenance on her generator, it would not crank anyway. I know
this from listening to the kids complain about the four wheelers not
working or the lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would add a lock
out switch to her existing panel. This way, she could use anything
in her house. The only bad thing about doing this would be if she
could not use self control and try to overload the circuit. Having
the breaker trip a few times might give her the message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the bedrooms
and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.

A dirt-cheap, no-brain, zero-maintenance refrigerator backup plan for
power outages is a few bags of ice in the freezer. Stick them in the
fridge when the power is out and you've got an icebox that will last
for days.

I have suggested that to her. Use a cooler for sandwich meat/milk
and leave the door to the fridge shut.

She lives in Alabama so it doesn't get really cold, but suggested that
she try to put a couple of those cooler ice packs outside and see if
they refreeze. (winter time outages, of course)


Well I certainly learned something. They have electricity in Alabama
:-)

Watch it there boy, we even have flush toilets and indoor plumbing here
in Alabamastan. We even have rotary dial telephones. ^_^

Everything's up to date in Birmingham City?

On 7/15/2011 10:34 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:26:17 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 7/15/2011 2:48 PM, Red Green wrote:
wrote in
:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:11:24 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In ,
wrote:

My sister lives in an area where the power goes out frequently. She
has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a plug for
her so she can use a generator to keep her food from going bad.
This is never going to happen. Not so much because I would not do
it for her, it is more because after the first season or two of no
maintenance on her generator, it would not crank anyway. I know
this from listening to the kids complain about the four wheelers not
working or the lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would add a lock
out switch to her existing panel. This way, she could use anything
in her house. The only bad thing about doing this would be if she
could not use self control and try to overload the circuit. Having
the breaker trip a few times might give her the message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the bedrooms
and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.

A dirt-cheap, no-brain, zero-maintenance refrigerator backup plan for
power outages is a few bags of ice in the freezer. Stick them in the
fridge when the power is out and you've got an icebox that will last
for days.

I have suggested that to her. Use a cooler for sandwich meat/milk
and leave the door to the fridge shut.

She lives in Alabama so it doesn't get really cold, but suggested that
she try to put a couple of those cooler ice packs outside and see if
they refreeze. (winter time outages, of course)


Well I certainly learned something. They have electricity in Alabama
:-)

Watch it there boy, we even have flush toilets and indoor plumbing here
in Alabamastan. We even have rotary dial telephones. ^_^

Everything's up to date in Birmingham City?


Believe it or not Birmingham is to telecommunications like Atlanta is to
transportation. Here in the Southeast, Birmingham is a hub for voice
and data routing. A lot of folks don't know that about our stereotypical
backwards state and that's the way we like it. It keeps a lot of those
Damn Yankees from coming down here but once they come here, we can't get
them to go home, dammit. :-)

TDD

I didn't see any kind of question you asked. However, I do
think that sounds good. The self starting natural gas
generator is good, also. The natural gas generator would be
a lot more easy to use. But, would cost a bit more.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Metspitzer" wrote in message
...
My sister lives in an area where the power goes out
frequently. She
has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a
plug for her
so she can use a generator to keep her food from going bad.
This is
never going to happen. Not so much because I would not do
it for her,
it is more because after the first season or two of no
maintenance on
her generator, it would not crank anyway. I know this from
listening
to the kids complain about the four wheelers not working or
the
lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would
add a lock
out switch to her existing panel. This way, she could use
anything in
her house. The only bad thing about doing this would be if
she could
not use self control and try to overload the circuit.
Having the
breaker trip a few times might give her the message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the
bedrooms
and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.

The Daring Dufas wrote in
:

On 7/15/2011 2:48 PM, Red Green wrote:
wrote in
:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:11:24 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In ,
wrote:

My sister lives in an area where the power goes out frequently.
She has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a plug
for her so she can use a generator to keep her food from going
bad. This is never going to happen. Not so much because I would
not do it for her, it is more because after the first season or
two of no maintenance on her generator, it would not crank anyway.
I know this from listening to the kids complain about the four
wheelers not working or the lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would add a
lock out switch to her existing panel. This way, she could use
anything in her house. The only bad thing about doing this would
be if she could not use self control and try to overload the
circuit. Having the breaker trip a few times might give her the
message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the
bedrooms and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.

A dirt-cheap, no-brain, zero-maintenance refrigerator backup plan
for power outages is a few bags of ice in the freezer. Stick them
in the fridge when the power is out and you've got an icebox that
will last for days.

I have suggested that to her. Use a cooler for sandwich meat/milk
and leave the door to the fridge shut.

She lives in Alabama so it doesn't get really cold, but suggested
that she try to put a couple of those cooler ice packs outside and
see if they refreeze. (winter time outages, of course)


Well I certainly learned something. They have electricity in Alabama
:-)

Watch it there boy, we even have flush toilets and indoor plumbing
here in Alabamastan. We even have rotary dial telephones. ^_^

TDD

Shazaaaam!

On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 03:45:09 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 7/15/2011 10:34 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:26:17 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 7/15/2011 2:48 PM, Red Green wrote:
wrote in
:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:11:24 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In ,
wrote:

My sister lives in an area where the power goes out frequently. She
has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a plug for
her so she can use a generator to keep her food from going bad.
This is never going to happen. Not so much because I would not do
it for her, it is more because after the first season or two of no
maintenance on her generator, it would not crank anyway. I know
this from listening to the kids complain about the four wheelers not
working or the lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would add a lock
out switch to her existing panel. This way, she could use anything
in her house. The only bad thing about doing this would be if she
could not use self control and try to overload the circuit. Having
the breaker trip a few times might give her the message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the bedrooms
and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.

A dirt-cheap, no-brain, zero-maintenance refrigerator backup plan for
power outages is a few bags of ice in the freezer. Stick them in the
fridge when the power is out and you've got an icebox that will last
for days.

I have suggested that to her. Use a cooler for sandwich meat/milk
and leave the door to the fridge shut.

She lives in Alabama so it doesn't get really cold, but suggested that
she try to put a couple of those cooler ice packs outside and see if
they refreeze. (winter time outages, of course)


Well I certainly learned something. They have electricity in Alabama
:-)

Watch it there boy, we even have flush toilets and indoor plumbing here
in Alabamastan. We even have rotary dial telephones. ^_^

Everything's up to date in Birmingham City?


Believe it or not Birmingham is to telecommunications like Atlanta is to
transportation. Here in the Southeast, Birmingham is a hub for voice
and data routing. A lot of folks don't know that about our stereotypical
backwards state and that's the way we like it. It keeps a lot of those
Damn Yankees from coming down here but once they come here, we can't get
them to go home, dammit. :-)

Give me 10 years. ;-)

On 7/16/2011 9:05 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 03:45:09 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 7/15/2011 10:34 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:26:17 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 7/15/2011 2:48 PM, Red Green wrote:
wrote in
:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:11:24 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In ,
wrote:

My sister lives in an area where the power goes out frequently. She
has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a plug for
her so she can use a generator to keep her food from going bad.
This is never going to happen. Not so much because I would not do
it for her, it is more because after the first season or two of no
maintenance on her generator, it would not crank anyway. I know
this from listening to the kids complain about the four wheelers not
working or the lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would add a lock
out switch to her existing panel. This way, she could use anything
in her house. The only bad thing about doing this would be if she
could not use self control and try to overload the circuit. Having
the breaker trip a few times might give her the message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the bedrooms
and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.

A dirt-cheap, no-brain, zero-maintenance refrigerator backup plan for
power outages is a few bags of ice in the freezer. Stick them in the
fridge when the power is out and you've got an icebox that will last
for days.

I have suggested that to her. Use a cooler for sandwich meat/milk
and leave the door to the fridge shut.

She lives in Alabama so it doesn't get really cold, but suggested that
she try to put a couple of those cooler ice packs outside and see if
they refreeze. (winter time outages, of course)


Well I certainly learned something. They have electricity in Alabama
:-)

Watch it there boy, we even have flush toilets and indoor plumbing here
in Alabamastan. We even have rotary dial telephones. ^_^

Everything's up to date in Birmingham City?


Believe it or not Birmingham is to telecommunications like Atlanta is to
transportation. Here in the Southeast, Birmingham is a hub for voice
and data routing. A lot of folks don't know that about our stereotypical
backwards state and that's the way we like it. It keeps a lot of those
Damn Yankees from coming down here but once they come here, we can't get
them to go home, dammit. :-)

Give me 10 years. ;-)

How about some grits with butter and honey? Turnip greens, black eyed
peas, cornbread and fried chicken? :-)

TDD

Reminds me of the scene where Chevy Chase is eating the
biggest plate of "lamb fries" and breaks the town record.

I guess this thread is no longer about home generators?
Oops, sorry!

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"The Daring Dufas" wrote in
message ...

Damn Yankees from coming down here but once they come
here, we can't get
them to go home, dammit. :-)

Give me 10 years. ;-)

How about some grits with butter and honey? Turnip greens,
black eyed
peas, cornbread and fried chicken? :-)

TDD

On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:53:25 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 7/17/2011 12:12 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 03:06:51 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 7/16/2011 9:05 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 03:45:09 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 7/15/2011 10:34 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:26:17 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 7/15/2011 2:48 PM, Red Green wrote:
wrote in
:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:11:24 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In ,
wrote:

My sister lives in an area where the power goes out frequently. She
has asked me more than once to "just" come out and add a plug for
her so she can use a generator to keep her food from going bad.
This is never going to happen. Not so much because I would not do
it for her, it is more because after the first season or two of no
maintenance on her generator, it would not crank anyway. I know
this from listening to the kids complain about the four wheelers not
working or the lawnmower is "broke"

If I were to set her up with a generator, I think I would add a lock
out switch to her existing panel. This way, she could use anything
in her house. The only bad thing about doing this would be if she
could not use self control and try to overload the circuit. Having
the breaker trip a few times might give her the message.

When the power goes off, just turn the breakers off to the bedrooms
and huddle in the den with TV and gas heat.

A dirt-cheap, no-brain, zero-maintenance refrigerator backup plan for
power outages is a few bags of ice in the freezer. Stick them in the
fridge when the power is out and you've got an icebox that will last
for days.

I have suggested that to her. Use a cooler for sandwich meat/milk
and leave the door to the fridge shut.

She lives in Alabama so it doesn't get really cold, but suggested that
she try to put a couple of those cooler ice packs outside and see if
they refreeze. (winter time outages, of course)


Well I certainly learned something. They have electricity in Alabama
:-)

Watch it there boy, we even have flush toilets and indoor plumbing here
in Alabamastan. We even have rotary dial telephones. ^_^

Everything's up to date in Birmingham City?


Believe it or not Birmingham is to telecommunications like Atlanta is to
transportation. Here in the Southeast, Birmingham is a hub for voice
and data routing. A lot of folks don't know that about our stereotypical
backwards state and that's the way we like it. It keeps a lot of those
Damn Yankees from coming down here but once they come here, we can't get
them to go home, dammit. :-)

Give me 10 years. ;-)

How about some grits with butter and honey? Turnip greens, black eyed
peas, cornbread and fried chicken? :-)

Pass the chicken and feed the slop to the pig.

SLOP?!! What you callin' slop boy, them's good vittles! :-)

The pig'll appreciate it, then. Later, I'll appreciate the pig so that slop
won't go entirely to waste. ;-)