Last evening, I was bitten again by something. I was bitten about a month
ago on my arm, and had a round swelling mound at least two inches in
diameter. Red and warm to the touch. Several points in the middle that
oozed a clear liquid for a week, then scabbed over, then healed. It left a
scar. I got overall body cramping.

I sprayed the hell out of things with the Ortho house spray. I sprayed
again yesterday. And I mean SPRAYED.

This one is on my ear lobe, and appears the same.

In the past, I have had bites mostly on my abdomen in front, and right above
belt height. They are a raised thing the size and thickness of a dime. The
dime sized welt is white, and surrounding flesh is red for about an inch.

I am obviously dealing with two types of bugs here. Inspection reveals
nothing on or in the bed. Under the bed, I have found dead spiders, so
apparently the spray is working, and maybe I had a new or intoxicated
interloper last evening. I am going to remove all bedding and thoroughly
inspect today. Is there anything like a UV light, or such that I should use
that would highlight the cause? I do have a very good German Scheinbach
illuminated inspection scope should I find any dark objects of interest.

I have two little dogs, and they will put anything in their mouths that will
fit. They will lick most anything that smells different to them. I must
use great caution in what and where I spray, so aim for cracks, and behind
things where they can't get to and put a lot in there, and not so much in
other open places.

I live in a rural setting, sand dunes all around. I found a drunk scorpion
in the pantry two days ago, but scorpions and spiders are so common here
that it doesn't raise a flag at all. One needs to look around, and I got
lucky on that one, because it was laying in plain sight. Lucky I didn't go
in there in semi-darkness. I have been bitten three times in my life by
scorpions, and it is mostly an aggravation, but I haven't been bitten yet
while on this coumadin medication.

Can anyone give me any advice? A brand of spray? Any type of substance
that is non-toxic for the dogs? Call a pro?

Any advice or help appreciated.

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
www.cabgbypasssurgery.com
Heart Surgery Survival Guide

Steve B wrote:
Last evening, I was bitten again by something. I was bitten about a
month ago on my arm, and had a round swelling mound at least two
inches in diameter. Red and warm to the touch. Several points in
the middle that oozed a clear liquid for a week, then scabbed over,
then healed. It left a scar. I got overall body cramping.

I sprayed the hell out of things with the Ortho house spray. I
sprayed again yesterday. And I mean SPRAYED.

This one is on my ear lobe, and appears the same.

In the past, I have had bites mostly on my abdomen in front, and
right above belt height. They are a raised thing the size and
thickness of a dime. The dime sized welt is white, and surrounding
flesh is red for about an inch.
I am obviously dealing with two types of bugs here. Inspection
reveals nothing on or in the bed. Under the bed, I have found dead
spiders, so apparently the spray is working, and maybe I had a new or
intoxicated interloper last evening. I am going to remove all
bedding and thoroughly inspect today. Is there anything like a UV
light, or such that I should use that would highlight the cause? I
do have a very good German Scheinbach illuminated inspection scope
should I find any dark objects of interest.
I have two little dogs, and they will put anything in their mouths
that will fit. They will lick most anything that smells different to
them. I must use great caution in what and where I spray, so aim for
cracks, and behind things where they can't get to and put a lot in
there, and not so much in other open places.

I live in a rural setting, sand dunes all around. I found a drunk
scorpion in the pantry two days ago, but scorpions and spiders are so
common here that it doesn't raise a flag at all. One needs to look
around, and I got lucky on that one, because it was laying in plain
sight. Lucky I didn't go in there in semi-darkness. I have been
bitten three times in my life by scorpions, and it is mostly an
aggravation, but I haven't been bitten yet while on this coumadin
medication.
Can anyone give me any advice? A brand of spray? Any type of
substance that is non-toxic for the dogs? Call a pro?

Any advice or help appreciated.

do you have nearby packrat nests? we have these

http://www.saguaro-juniper.com/i_and...one-nosed.html

and they tend to inhabit packrat infested areas, but other small ground
based rodents will do.

On 2011-06-01, chaniarts wrote:

http://www.saguaro-juniper.com/i_and...one-nosed.html

and they tend to inhabit packrat infested areas, but other small ground
based rodents will do.

Yikes! ...as if spiders weren't problem enough.

During the Summer, when I sleep with less bedding covering myself, I
get the occasional small bite, usually on my legs. But, they are
small and jes raise a small red welt that diappears after a day. I
always assumed they were jes spiders, but not you've got me freaked
out. shudder

nb

Steve B wrote:
Last evening, I was bitten again by something. I was bitten about a
month ago on my arm, and had a round swelling mound at least two
inches in diameter. Red and warm to the touch. Several points in
the middle that oozed a clear liquid for a week, then scabbed over,
then healed. It left a scar. I got overall body cramping.

Try Googling "Lyme Disease" and look at some of the images on the links that
come up such as this one -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease -- and
see if the wound marks look similar to what you had.

On 6/1/2011 1:41 PM, Steve B wrote:
Last evening, I was bitten again by something. I was bitten about a month
ago on my arm, and had a round swelling mound at least two inches in
diameter. Red and warm to the touch. Several points in the middle that
oozed a clear liquid for a week, then scabbed over, then healed. It left a
scar. I got overall body cramping.

I sprayed the hell out of things with the Ortho house spray. I sprayed
again yesterday. And I mean SPRAYED.

This one is on my ear lobe, and appears the same.

In the past, I have had bites mostly on my abdomen in front, and right above
belt height. They are a raised thing the size and thickness of a dime. The
dime sized welt is white, and surrounding flesh is red for about an inch.

I am obviously dealing with two types of bugs here. Inspection reveals
nothing on or in the bed. Under the bed, I have found dead spiders, so
apparently the spray is working, and maybe I had a new or intoxicated
interloper last evening. I am going to remove all bedding and thoroughly
inspect today. Is there anything like a UV light, or such that I should use
that would highlight the cause? I do have a very good German Scheinbach
illuminated inspection scope should I find any dark objects of interest.

I have two little dogs, and they will put anything in their mouths that will
fit. They will lick most anything that smells different to them. I must
use great caution in what and where I spray, so aim for cracks, and behind
things where they can't get to and put a lot in there, and not so much in
other open places.

I live in a rural setting, sand dunes all around. I found a drunk scorpion
in the pantry two days ago, but scorpions and spiders are so common here
that it doesn't raise a flag at all. One needs to look around, and I got
lucky on that one, because it was laying in plain sight. Lucky I didn't go
in there in semi-darkness. I have been bitten three times in my life by
scorpions, and it is mostly an aggravation, but I haven't been bitten yet
while on this coumadin medication.

Can anyone give me any advice? A brand of spray? Any type of substance
that is non-toxic for the dogs? Call a pro?

Any advice or help appreciated.

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
www.cabgbypasssurgery.com
Heart Surgery Survival Guide



Yuck! It might help to know the general area that you live. I've had
tiny scorpions bite, but the Florida variety is apparently pretty
harmless. Spiders? Is the redness just inflammation, like a mosquito
bite or is it deeper red, like bleeding into the skin? For starters, I
would remove everything possible that bugs can lurk in and vacuum the
room meticulously. Papers, corrugated cardboard, old shoes and clothing
are great places for bugs to live. If you need to store stuff there,
place it in tight plastic tubs or boxes.

With coumadin, it may be possible that you react a little differently to
the same bites...don't know. Bites on your face and head can be nasty,
both for allergic reactions and infection...have your doc take a look.

I've always been sensitive to mosquito bites, but only for bothersome
itching. Once had a bite that must have been a spider,
outdoors...initially, no pain or itching. Got very red under the skin
about 1 cm wide, then peeled superficially. Took months for the red to
go away. I'm fair skinned, and that can also be a factor.

Any chance of bed bugs? Travelled recently?

"RogerT" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
Last evening, I was bitten again by something. I was bitten about a
month ago on my arm, and had a round swelling mound at least two
inches in diameter. Red and warm to the touch. Several points in
the middle that oozed a clear liquid for a week, then scabbed over,
then healed. It left a scar. I got overall body cramping.

Try Googling "Lyme Disease" and look at some of the images on the links
that
come up such as this one -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease --
and
see if the wound marks look similar to what you had.

Lyme Disease has a pretty distinctive large red ring surrounding the bite
which is hard to miss unless it is on the center of scalp and thus covered
by hair. Definitely known to cause aching joints and fatigue.

More examples of what the tell-tale ring looks like:


http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&q=lyme+disease+tic k+bite+red+ring&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=1

or

http://tinyurl.com/3labxwy

--
Bobby G.

"chaniarts" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
Last evening, I was bitten again by something. I was bitten about a
month ago on my arm, and had a round swelling mound at least two
inches in diameter. Red and warm to the touch. Several points in
the middle that oozed a clear liquid for a week, then scabbed over,
then healed. It left a scar. I got overall body cramping.

I sprayed the hell out of things with the Ortho house spray. I
sprayed again yesterday. And I mean SPRAYED.

This one is on my ear lobe, and appears the same.

In the past, I have had bites mostly on my abdomen in front, and
right above belt height. They are a raised thing the size and
thickness of a dime. The dime sized welt is white, and surrounding
flesh is red for about an inch.
I am obviously dealing with two types of bugs here. Inspection
reveals nothing on or in the bed. Under the bed, I have found dead
spiders, so apparently the spray is working, and maybe I had a new or
intoxicated interloper last evening. I am going to remove all
bedding and thoroughly inspect today. Is there anything like a UV
light, or such that I should use that would highlight the cause? I
do have a very good German Scheinbach illuminated inspection scope
should I find any dark objects of interest.
I have two little dogs, and they will put anything in their mouths
that will fit. They will lick most anything that smells different to
them. I must use great caution in what and where I spray, so aim for
cracks, and behind things where they can't get to and put a lot in
there, and not so much in other open places.

I live in a rural setting, sand dunes all around. I found a drunk
scorpion in the pantry two days ago, but scorpions and spiders are so
common here that it doesn't raise a flag at all. One needs to look
around, and I got lucky on that one, because it was laying in plain
sight. Lucky I didn't go in there in semi-darkness. I have been
bitten three times in my life by scorpions, and it is mostly an
aggravation, but I haven't been bitten yet while on this coumadin
medication.
Can anyone give me any advice? A brand of spray? Any type of
substance that is non-toxic for the dogs? Call a pro?

Any advice or help appreciated.

do you have nearby packrat nests? we have these


http://www.saguaro-juniper.com/i_and...one-nosed.html

and they tend to inhabit packrat infested areas, but other small ground
based rodents will do.

Otherwise known as the kissing bug because they go for the lips and other
moist areas (skinny dippers be especially wary). I am sure they serve some
niche in the ecology but I'd being gearing up for packrat hunt in a ghilly
suit if they lived withing striking distance.

Yuk!

--
Bobby G.

On Jun 1, 12:41*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
Last evening, I was bitten again by something. *I was bitten about a month
ago on my arm, and had a round swelling mound at least two inches in
diameter. * Red and warm to the touch. *Several points in the middle that
oozed a clear liquid for a week, then scabbed over, then healed. *It left a
scar. *I got overall body cramping.

I sprayed the hell out of things with the Ortho house spray. *I sprayed
again yesterday. *And I mean SPRAYED.

This one is on my ear lobe, and appears the same.

In the past, I have had bites mostly on my abdomen in front, and right above
belt height. *They are a raised thing the size and thickness of a dime. *The
dime sized welt is white, and surrounding flesh is red for about an inch.

I am obviously dealing with two types of bugs here. *Inspection reveals
nothing on or in the bed. *Under the bed, I have found dead spiders, so
apparently the spray is working, and maybe I had a new or intoxicated
interloper last evening. *I am going to remove all bedding and thoroughly
inspect today. *Is there anything like a UV light, or such that I should use
that would highlight the cause? *I do have a very good German Scheinbach
illuminated inspection scope should I find any dark objects of interest.

I have two little dogs, and they will put anything in their mouths that will
fit. *They will lick most anything that smells different to them. *I must
use great caution in what and where I spray, so aim for cracks, and behind
things where they can't get to and put a lot in there, and not so much in
other open places.

I live in a rural setting, sand dunes all around. *I found a drunk scorpion
in the pantry two days ago, but scorpions and spiders are so common here
that it doesn't raise a flag at all. *One needs to look around, and I got
lucky on that one, because it was laying in plain sight. *Lucky I didn't go
in there in semi-darkness. *I have been bitten three times in my life by
scorpions, and it is mostly an aggravation, but I haven't been bitten yet
while on this coumadin medication.

Can anyone give me any advice? *A brand of spray? *Any type of substance
that is non-toxic for the dogs? *Call a pro?

Any advice or help appreciated.

Steve

Heart surgery pending?www.cabgbypasssurgery.com
Heart Surgery Survival Guide

Getting cramping I would see a doctor, did it look like Lyme disease
photos you have links to, you dont want to ignore lyme disease. do you
treat the dogs and have you checked them, I think its called Frontline
top spot, it really works, I could only guess spiders, ticks, for the
large bite and fleas for the small ones, You could spray youself but
you need help in indentifying what pests you have, if its lyme disease
it has to be treated now. Start by checking the bed and area
completely even under the frame

On Jun 2, 6:16*am, wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 14:54:10 -0400, "RogerT"
wrote:

Steve B wrote:
Last evening, I was bitten again by something. *I was bitten about a
month ago on my arm, and had a round swelling mound at least two
inches in diameter. * Red and warm to the touch. *Several points in
the middle that oozed a clear liquid for a week, then scabbed over,
then healed. *It left a scar. *I got overall body cramping.

Try Googling "Lyme Disease" and look at some of the images on the links that
come up such as this one --http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease-- and
see if the wound marks look similar to what you had.

Yup
Tick jumps off dog, attacks owner. *Owner gets lyme disease and dies a
few years later. *This happens all the time. *This is a good time to
start praying. *You'll soon meet your maker.

And with lyme sometimes the rash has no ring, sometimes you dont even
get symptoms, and the bad part is regular tests can fail to confirm
it.

Steve B wrote:

Last evening, I was bitten again by something. I was bitten about a
month ago on my arm, and had a round swelling mound at least two inches
in diameter. Red and warm to the touch. Several points in the middle
that oozed a clear liquid for a week, then scabbed over, then healed. It
left a scar. I got overall body cramping.

I sprayed the hell out of things with the Ortho house spray. I sprayed
again yesterday. And I mean SPRAYED.

This one is on my ear lobe, and appears the same.

In the past, I have had bites mostly on my abdomen in front, and right
above belt height. They are a raised thing the size and thickness of a
dime. The dime sized welt is white, and surrounding flesh is red for
about an inch.
[...]

Can anyone give me any advice? A brand of spray? Any type of substance
that is non-toxic for the dogs? Call a pro?

Assuming you don't ID the bug from your symptoms, you might want to try
sticky traps. I like Catchmaster brand. They are readily available,
non-toxic, and they work.

Keep in mind that for insects, they are not an effective means of
exterminating or even greatly reducing infestation. What they are good for
is getting a survey of the creepies that are crawling unseen in your
environment.

Put out a dozen or so in your bedroom, in places where your dogs can't
reach. Under your nightstand, in a closet, you could even try taping /
thumb-tacking them to surfaces such as the wall, the backside of your
headboard, nightstand, and the bottom of your box springs.

After a few weeks (maybe sooner) you should have good samples of your
little unseen roommates. With photos to post online, it should be no
problem to ID them.

I agree with the other posters that Lyme disease or Cone Nosed Bugs should
be at the top of your investigative list. Given the scorpions, I'd guess
you are in the South West US, where to my surprise, there is some Lyme
disease hazard. If I were you, I'd get tested for Lyme immediately.

The good news is that, based on some brief Google, it looks to me like you
are not at risk for Chagas' disease, which wold be a possibility from the
Cone Noses' Latin cousin, the Assassin Bug. Nonetheless, since we are
talking about your life, I would mention it to the Doctor when you get
tested for Lyme.

--
Tony Sivori
Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters.

"RogerT" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
Last evening, I was bitten again by something. I was bitten about a
month ago on my arm, and had a round swelling mound at least two
inches in diameter. Red and warm to the touch. Several points in
the middle that oozed a clear liquid for a week, then scabbed over,
then healed. It left a scar. I got overall body cramping.

Try Googling "Lyme Disease" and look at some of the images on the links
that come up such as this one --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease -- and see if the wound marks
look similar to what you had.

Doesn't look like that. I get these in series, as the same bug or more than
one will bite at once. I have two on my ear, and two on my leg. Here is a
photo of my leg. The round blob is the clear fluid oozing as a blister
until I pop it.

WARNING - THE PHOTO IS GRAPHIC! IF YOU ARE SQUEAMISH, DO NOT CLICK ON THE
FOLLOWING LINK!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deserttraveler/

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
www.cabgbypasssurgery.com
Heart Surgery Survival Guide

On Jun 2, 12:30*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"RogerT" wrote in message

...

Steve B wrote:
Last evening, I was bitten again by something. *I was bitten about a
month ago on my arm, and had a round swelling mound at least two
inches in diameter. * Red and warm to the touch. *Several points in
the middle that oozed a clear liquid for a week, then scabbed over,
then healed. *It left a scar. *I got overall body cramping.

Try Googling "Lyme Disease" and look at some of the images on the links
that come up such as this one -- *
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease-- and see if the wound marks
look similar to what you had.

Doesn't look like that. *I get these in series, as the same bug or more than
one will bite at once. *I have two on my ear, and two on my leg. *Here is a
photo of my leg. *The round blob is the clear fluid oozing as a blister
until I pop it.

WARNING - THE PHOTO IS GRAPHIC! *IF YOU ARE SQUEAMISH, DO NOT CLICK ON THE
FOLLOWING LINK!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deserttraveler/

Steve

Heart surgery pending?www.cabgbypasssurgery.com
Heart Surgery Survival Guide

In series is something bed bugs do. People react differently to bed
bug bites. You can usually find beg bugs by stripping the bed and
lifting the mattress and the box spring. Look carefully around seams
for bugs or black bug poop. Sometimes you will find small bllod
stains.

As another poster suggested sticky taps are a good diagnostic tool.

On 6/2/2011 12:30 PM, Steve B wrote:
wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
Last evening, I was bitten again by something. I was bitten about a
month ago on my arm, and had a round swelling mound at least two
inches in diameter. Red and warm to the touch. Several points in
the middle that oozed a clear liquid for a week, then scabbed over,
then healed. It left a scar. I got overall body cramping.

Try Googling "Lyme Disease" and look at some of the images on the links
that come up such as this one --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease -- and see if the wound marks
look similar to what you had.

Doesn't look like that. I get these in series, as the same bug or more than
one will bite at once. I have two on my ear, and two on my leg. Here is a
photo of my leg. The round blob is the clear fluid oozing as a blister
until I pop it.

WARNING - THE PHOTO IS GRAPHIC! IF YOU ARE SQUEAMISH, DO NOT CLICK ON THE
FOLLOWING LINK!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deserttraveler/

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
www.cabgbypasssurgery.com
Heart Surgery Survival Guide



Since you have had heart surgery, you are a pretty good candidate for
circulatory problems in your leg...that bite is nasty looking enough for
a visit to the doc. I don't know what bugs, other than spiders, cause
tissue destruction, but that would be my concern (ahead of id'ing the
bug). The blistering is quite bothersome.

wrote in message
m...
On 6/2/2011 12:30 PM, Steve B wrote:
wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
Last evening, I was bitten again by something. I was bitten about a
month ago on my arm, and had a round swelling mound at least two
inches in diameter. Red and warm to the touch. Several points in
the middle that oozed a clear liquid for a week, then scabbed over,
then healed. It left a scar. I got overall body cramping.

Try Googling "Lyme Disease" and look at some of the images on the links
that come up such as this one --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease -- and see if the wound marks
look similar to what you had.

Doesn't look like that. I get these in series, as the same bug or more
than
one will bite at once. I have two on my ear, and two on my leg. Here
is a
photo of my leg. The round blob is the clear fluid oozing as a blister
until I pop it.

WARNING - THE PHOTO IS GRAPHIC! IF YOU ARE SQUEAMISH, DO NOT CLICK ON
THE
FOLLOWING LINK!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deserttraveler/

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
www.cabgbypasssurgery.com
Heart Surgery Survival Guide



Since you have had heart surgery, you are a pretty good candidate for
circulatory problems in your leg...that bite is nasty looking enough for
a visit to the doc. I don't know what bugs, other than spiders, cause
tissue destruction, but that would be my concern (ahead of id'ing the
bug). The blistering is quite bothersome.

Yes, it's time for us to stop playing Usenet, MD and for Steve to have that
looked at. What's that Monty Python routine about the mosquito bite? "What
do you mean it's just a mosquito bite, his whole LEG is missing!" That can
happen in a very short time with MRSA.

--
Bobby G.

Steve B wrote:
"RogerT" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
Last evening, I was bitten again by something. I was bitten about a
month ago on my arm, and had a round swelling mound at least two
inches in diameter. Red and warm to the touch. Several points in
the middle that oozed a clear liquid for a week, then scabbed over,
then healed. It left a scar. I got overall body cramping.

Try Googling "Lyme Disease" and look at some of the images on the
links that come up such as this one --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease -- and see if the wound
marks look similar to what you had.

Doesn't look like that. I get these in series, as the same bug or
more than one will bite at once. I have two on my ear, and two on my
leg. Here is a photo of my leg. The round blob is the clear fluid
oozing as a blister until I pop it.

WARNING - THE PHOTO IS GRAPHIC! IF YOU ARE SQUEAMISH, DO NOT CLICK
ON THE FOLLOWING LINK!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deserttraveler/

Steve

I just tried doing a Google Images search for spider bites and it does look
like maybe that is what you have.

For spiders, I have used this:
http://www.terro.com/products.php?pr...r_killer_spray

It is available at Home Depot, Lowes, Ace Hardware, etc. Also, the website
has a video and looking around the website shows other spider products.

On 6/1/2011 1:41 PM, Steve B wrote:
Last evening, I was bitten again by something. I was bitten about a month
ago on my arm, and had a round swelling mound at least two inches in
diameter. Red and warm to the touch. Several points in the middle that
oozed a clear liquid for a week, then scabbed over, then healed. It left a
scar. I got overall body cramping.

I sprayed the hell out of things with the Ortho house spray. I sprayed
again yesterday. And I mean SPRAYED.

This one is on my ear lobe, and appears the same.

In the past, I have had bites mostly on my abdomen in front, and right above
belt height. They are a raised thing the size and thickness of a dime. The
dime sized welt is white, and surrounding flesh is red for about an inch.

I am obviously dealing with two types of bugs here. Inspection reveals
nothing on or in the bed. Under the bed, I have found dead spiders, so
apparently the spray is working, and maybe I had a new or intoxicated
interloper last evening. I am going to remove all bedding and thoroughly
inspect today. Is there anything like a UV light, or such that I should use
that would highlight the cause? I do have a very good German Scheinbach
illuminated inspection scope should I find any dark objects of interest.

I have two little dogs, and they will put anything in their mouths that will
fit. They will lick most anything that smells different to them. I must
use great caution in what and where I spray, so aim for cracks, and behind
things where they can't get to and put a lot in there, and not so much in
other open places.

I live in a rural setting, sand dunes all around. I found a drunk scorpion
in the pantry two days ago, but scorpions and spiders are so common here
that it doesn't raise a flag at all. One needs to look around, and I got
lucky on that one, because it was laying in plain sight. Lucky I didn't go
in there in semi-darkness. I have been bitten three times in my life by
scorpions, and it is mostly an aggravation, but I haven't been bitten yet
while on this coumadin medication.

Can anyone give me any advice? A brand of spray? Any type of substance
that is non-toxic for the dogs? Call a pro?

Any advice or help appreciated.

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
www.cabgbypasssurgery.com
Heart Surgery Survival Guide



How is it going.....worried to hear from you again.