I've got some kind of a cleanout plug on the 4" cast iron street
drain. This likely hasn't been open in 80 years.

I'm anticipating trouble. Any hints? PB Blaster a waste of time?

I figure that I'll need to some Scotch to get through this.

Jeff

Jeff Thies wrote:
I've got some kind of a cleanout plug on the 4" cast iron street
drain. This likely hasn't been open in 80 years.

I'm anticipating trouble. Any hints? PB Blaster a waste of time?
....
a) I'd get the torch out and try heat

b) IMO, yes...

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On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:04:02 -0500, Jeff Thies
wrote:

I've got some kind of a cleanout plug on the 4" cast iron street
drain. This likely hasn't been open in 80 years.

I'm anticipating trouble. Any hints? PB Blaster a waste of time?

I figure that I'll need to some Scotch to get through this.

Jeff

Any good reason to remove it?
That's the first question I'd ask myself.
You might rap it a bit with hammer.
The dope is probably hard.
Just be wary of cracking the cast iron.
Same when you put a wrench on it, be aware of force put on the pipe
and other joints.
Get an opposing wrench on the fitting itself.
If the plug doesn't move rap it some more.
Have a new plug ready, dope, and a wire brush to clean the fitting
threads.

Disclaimer: I am not a professional plumber. I take no responsibility
for damage incurred by listening to anything I say.

--Vic

On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 14:22:02 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:04:02 -0500, Jeff Thies
wrote:

I've got some kind of a cleanout plug on the 4" cast iron street
drain. This likely hasn't been open in 80 years.

I'm anticipating trouble. Any hints? PB Blaster a waste of time?

I figure that I'll need to some Scotch to get through this.

Jeff

Any good reason to remove it?
That's the first question I'd ask myself.
You might rap it a bit with hammer.

The plug - only the plug!

The dope is probably hard.
Just be wary of cracking the cast iron.
Same when you put a wrench on it, be aware of force put on the pipe
and other joints.
Get an opposing wrench on the fitting itself.
If the plug doesn't move rap it some more.
Have a new plug ready, dope, and a wire brush to clean the fitting
threads.

Disclaimer: I am not a professional plumber. I take no responsibility
for damage incurred by listening to anything I say.

--Vic

On Jan 4, 2:04*pm, Jeff Thies wrote:
* *I've got some kind of a cleanout plug on the 4" cast iron street
drain. This likely hasn't been open in 80 years.

* *I'm anticipating trouble. Any hints? PB Blaster a waste of time?

* *I figure that I'll need to some Scotch to get through this.

* *Jeff

Why are you removing it. I had a clog that needed rodding, the plumber
gave up after a torch and wrench failed loosen the plug and cut out
the section. I have a floor drain with a plug in it my boiler guy with
a welders torch and a big wrench could not move.

On Jan 4, 3:04*pm, Jeff Thies wrote:
* *I've got some kind of a cleanout plug on the 4" cast iron street
drain. This likely hasn't been open in 80 years.

* *I'm anticipating trouble. Any hints? PB Blaster a waste of time?

* *I figure that I'll need to some Scotch to get through this.

* *Jeff

I had to cut mine out with a reciprocating saw. I managed to cut out a
small section which freed it up enough to want to spin .

I've never tried this. But I've heard that one answer is to
take a common candle, like from Dollar Tree. Eight for a
buck "emergency candle". Use a torch to heat up the fitting.
While the fitting is hot, drip candle wax onto it. The wax
soaks into the threads, and lubricates them. Never tried it.

PB blaster is good stuff. Might work. Long wrench. Hammer on
the threads, shake the rust loose. There is a plumbing
usenet group I used to read. Ask there.

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Christopher A. Young
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"Jeff Thies" wrote in message
...
I've got some kind of a cleanout plug on the 4" cast iron
street
drain. This likely hasn't been open in 80 years.

I'm anticipating trouble. Any hints? PB Blaster a waste
of time?

I figure that I'll need to some Scotch to get through
this.

Jeff

On 1/4/2011 8:51 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I've never tried this. But I've heard that one answer is to
take a common candle, like from Dollar Tree. Eight for a
buck "emergency candle". Use a torch to heat up the fitting.
While the fitting is hot, drip candle wax onto it. The wax
soaks into the threads, and lubricates them. Never tried it.

Never would have thought of it. Might give it a try.

Thanks,
Jeff

PB blaster is good stuff. Might work. Long wrench. Hammer on
the threads, shake the rust loose. There is a plumbing
usenet group I used to read. Ask there.

On 1/4/2011 2:04 PM, Jeff Thies wrote:
I've got some kind of a cleanout plug on the 4" cast iron street drain.
This likely hasn't been open in 80 years.

I'm anticipating trouble. Any hints? PB Blaster a waste of time?

I figure that I'll need to some Scotch to get through this.

Jeff

Break it out, replace with a plastic one.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

Jeff Thies wrote:
On 1/4/2011 8:51 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I've never tried this. But I've heard that one answer is to
take a common candle, like from Dollar Tree. Eight for a
buck "emergency candle". Use a torch to heat up the fitting.
While the fitting is hot, drip candle wax onto it. The wax
soaks into the threads, and lubricates them. Never tried it.

Never would have thought of it. Might give it a try.
....

When it's watertight and corroded to boot, the chances of anything and
particularly anything as viscous as paraffin wax getting into the
threads before they're already loosened is vanishingly small...

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On Jan 4, 2:04*pm, Jeff Thies wrote:
* *I've got some kind of a cleanout plug on the 4" cast iron street
drain. This likely hasn't been open in 80 years.

* *I'm anticipating trouble. Any hints? PB Blaster a waste of time?

* *I figure that I'll need to some Scotch to get through this.

* *Jeff

Waste of time to fool with unscrewing it. Drill a couple of holes (or
more) in the thinner part and beak it out. Plastic or brass is a good
replacement.

Joe

If this is a brass plug, it is very thin. Our plumbers normally
just plan on breaking out the brass plug, do the work, replace
with a new brass plug. I asked them about dosing well with anti
seize compound for next time - nah, we'll just break out the next
one.

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DanG
Keep the whole world singing . . .


"Jeff Thies" wrote in message
...
I've got some kind of a cleanout plug on the 4" cast iron
street drain. This likely hasn't been open in 80 years.

I'm anticipating trouble. Any hints? PB Blaster a waste of
time?

I figure that I'll need to some Scotch to get through this.

Jeff

On 1/4/2011 12:04 PM, Jeff Thies wrote:
I've got some kind of a cleanout plug on the 4" cast iron street drain.
This likely hasn't been open in 80 years.

I'm anticipating trouble. Any hints? PB Blaster a waste of time?

I figure that I'll need to some Scotch to get through this.

Jeff

I've been through this, but only a 45 year old plug. I even tried an
air powered impact wrench without success.

Drill a hole in it and saw out to the edge without damaging the threads
on the socket side.

Don't try excessive force on it as you'll likely do more damage to other
old pipes and fittings.

Replace with a new plug.

Have a martini.

On Jan 4, 3:04*pm, Jeff Thies wrote:
* *I've got some kind of a cleanout plug on the 4" cast iron street
drain. This likely hasn't been open in 80 years.

* *I'm anticipating trouble. Any hints? PB Blaster a waste of time?

* *I figure that I'll need to some Scotch to get through this.

* *Jeff

Large hole saw. Then cut the remaining piece out to the threads in 3
or 4 directions with a sawsall. Use a chisel to knock the pieces
loose. Replace with plastic and some dope. Just snug it down. It
ain't got to be wrenched in.

On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 23:06:35 -0600, dpb wrote:

Jeff Thies wrote:
On 1/4/2011 8:51 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I've never tried this. But I've heard that one answer is to
take a common candle, like from Dollar Tree. Eight for a
buck "emergency candle". Use a torch to heat up the fitting.
While the fitting is hot, drip candle wax onto it. The wax
soaks into the threads, and lubricates them. Never tried it.

Never would have thought of it. Might give it a try.
...

When it's watertight and corroded to boot, the chances of anything and
particularly anything as viscous as paraffin wax getting into the
threads before they're already loosened is vanishingly small...


Paraffin wax is not viscous when heated. Bees wax is commonly used
and other wax types can be substituted. They flow easily through
capillary action. Try it. It disappears.

On Jan 5, 7:22*am, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jan 4, 3:04*pm, Jeff Thies wrote:

* *I've got some kind of a cleanout plug on the 4" cast iron street
drain. This likely hasn't been open in 80 years.

* *I'm anticipating trouble. Any hints? PB Blaster a waste of time?

* *I figure that I'll need to some Scotch to get through this.

* *Jeff

Large hole saw. *Then cut the remaining piece out to the threads in 3
or 4 directions with a sawsall. *Use a chisel to knock the pieces
loose. *Replace with plastic and some dope. *Just snug it down. *It
ain't got to be wrenched in.

Just f don't let the pieces fall into the drain.

On 1/4/2011 3:04 PM, Jeff Thies wrote:
I've got some kind of a cleanout plug on the 4" cast iron street
drain. This likely hasn't been open in 80 years.

I've cut out out the brass plug out.

It's 4" iron pipe inside the flange of another pipe. About an inch
sticking out. I thought I would just put a fernco cap on but it's not
really enough to put the cap enough.

Are those brass plugs still available and how do you put them in. I
was at the Borg, so no help there! At least I didn't recognize them.
Does that screw in?

Also, got a small hole in the top of a pipe. How to patch? I would
think tar would be involved...

Jeff