On 11/16/2010 1:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
I just bought a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. Anyone know how much
adding the circuitry to the cost of the clock would be? I would guess
less than 5 dollars. Probably closer to 2 dollars.

You would think all digital clock radios would come with this built
in.

http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/radioclocks.cfm



I would like to be able to walk into a store and buy a radio controlled
clock radio. They are available, but I haven't been able to find
one at any of the regular suspects. For that matter there aren't
really very many wall clocks. Most of the regular suspects have
"Atomic" wall clocks, but they have digital displays, not nice big
faces with second hands. There are a few of them out there, but
not as many as I expected to have showing up when I first found out
about them.

Bill

Why would you want to "radio control" the hands n a clock? They aren't going
to do your housework for you anyway as they don't actually leave the clock.

Get a big digital atomic clock. They work wonderfully, providing you are
close enough to a time beacon it uses.



"Bill Gill" wrote in message
...
I would like to be able to walk into a store and buy a radio controlled
clock radio. They are available, but I haven't been able to find
one at any of the regular suspects. For that matter there aren't
really very many wall clocks. Most of the regular suspects have
"Atomic" wall clocks, but they have digital displays, not nice big
faces with second hands. There are a few of them out there, but
not as many as I expected to have showing up when I first found out
about them.

Bill

On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:16:42 -0600, Bill Gill
wrote:

On 11/16/2010 1:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
I just bought a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. Anyone know how much
adding the circuitry to the cost of the clock would be? I would guess
less than 5 dollars. Probably closer to 2 dollars.

You would think all digital clock radios would come with this built
in.

http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/radioclocks.cfm



I would like to be able to walk into a store and buy a radio controlled
clock radio. They are available, but I haven't been able to find
one at any of the regular suspects. For that matter there aren't
really very many wall clocks. Most of the regular suspects have
"Atomic" wall clocks, but they have digital displays, not nice big
faces with second hands. There are a few of them out there, but
not as many as I expected to have showing up when I first found out
about them.

Bill

The service should also broadcast the date. This would be very handy
for reprogramming DVD recorders, TVs and answering machines that lose
time\date settings due to power outages. It is not so much getting
the time to the exact second, it is the convenience of not having to
set the time at all.

If the low ball estimate of 9 cents for the technology is close,
everything should come with WWVB.

On 11/17/2010 9:16 AM, Bill Gill wrote:
On 11/16/2010 1:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
I just bought a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. Anyone know how much
adding the circuitry to the cost of the clock would be? I would guess
less than 5 dollars. Probably closer to 2 dollars.

You would think all digital clock radios would come with this built
in.

http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/radioclocks.cfm



I would like to be able to walk into a store and buy a radio controlled
clock radio. They are available, but I haven't been able to find
one at any of the regular suspects. For that matter there aren't
really very many wall clocks. Most of the regular suspects have
"Atomic" wall clocks, but they have digital displays, not nice big
faces with second hands. There are a few of them out there, but
not as many as I expected to have showing up when I first found out
about them.

Bill


My 'Atomic' branded analog clock (with sweep second hand) is a PITA,
eats batteries, and 2-3 times a year has an attack of the vapors and
starts resetting itself randomly, I have to force-reset it 2-3 times
before it synchs up reliably. Good thing I only paid five bucks at a
garage sale. No biggie, I have 3-4 shortwaves that can hit WWV except
when sun is high in the sky.

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aem sends...

On 11/17/2010 1:34 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:16:42 -0600, Bill
wrote:

On 11/16/2010 1:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
I just bought a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. Anyone know how much
adding the circuitry to the cost of the clock would be? I would guess
less than 5 dollars. Probably closer to 2 dollars.

You would think all digital clock radios would come with this built
in.

http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/radioclocks.cfm



I would like to be able to walk into a store and buy a radio controlled
clock radio. They are available, but I haven't been able to find
one at any of the regular suspects. For that matter there aren't
really very many wall clocks. Most of the regular suspects have
"Atomic" wall clocks, but they have digital displays, not nice big
faces with second hands. There are a few of them out there, but
not as many as I expected to have showing up when I first found out
about them.

Bill

The service should also broadcast the date. This would be very handy
for reprogramming DVD recorders, TVs and answering machines that lose
time\date settings due to power outages. It is not so much getting
the time to the exact second, it is the convenience of not having to
set the time at all.

If the low ball estimate of 9 cents for the technology is close,
everything should come with WWVB.

The time code broadcast on WWVB includes the date and a DST flag.
If you have a properly set up synchronized clock then it is all
automatic, all you have to do is start it and set the time zone.

Bill

On 11/17/2010 5:21 PM, aemeijers wrote:
On 11/17/2010 9:16 AM, Bill Gill wrote:
On 11/16/2010 1:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
I just bought a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. Anyone know how much
adding the circuitry to the cost of the clock would be? I would guess
less than 5 dollars. Probably closer to 2 dollars.

You would think all digital clock radios would come with this built
in.

http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/radioclocks.cfm



I would like to be able to walk into a store and buy a radio controlled
clock radio. They are available, but I haven't been able to find
one at any of the regular suspects. For that matter there aren't
really very many wall clocks. Most of the regular suspects have
"Atomic" wall clocks, but they have digital displays, not nice big
faces with second hands. There are a few of them out there, but
not as many as I expected to have showing up when I first found out
about them.

Bill


My 'Atomic' branded analog clock (with sweep second hand) is a PITA,
eats batteries, and 2-3 times a year has an attack of the vapors and
starts resetting itself randomly, I have to force-reset it 2-3 times
before it synchs up reliably. Good thing I only paid five bucks at a
garage sale. No biggie, I have 3-4 shortwaves that can hit WWV except
when sun is high in the sky.

I haven't had that problem. But I do have one that is kind of flaky
with DST. When we change to or from DST the clock changes just fine.
When I get up in the morning it has the correct time. Then when I
look at it along in the evening it has gone back to the old setting.
The next morning it will be right again, until the next DST change.

Of course I also have one of the same model, which I bought after that
one that doesn't know about the DST flag on the time code. It changes
according to the old DST times, so it is an hour off about 5 weeks a
year. I have to change the time zone so it will be right during those
periods.

Bill

On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:21:07 -0500, aemeijers
wrote:

On 11/17/2010 9:16 AM, Bill Gill wrote:
On 11/16/2010 1:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
I just bought a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. Anyone know how much
adding the circuitry to the cost of the clock would be? I would guess
less than 5 dollars. Probably closer to 2 dollars.

You would think all digital clock radios would come with this built
in.

http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/radioclocks.cfm



I would like to be able to walk into a store and buy a radio controlled
clock radio. They are available, but I haven't been able to find
one at any of the regular suspects. For that matter there aren't
really very many wall clocks. Most of the regular suspects have
"Atomic" wall clocks, but they have digital displays, not nice big
faces with second hands. There are a few of them out there, but
not as many as I expected to have showing up when I first found out
about them.

Bill


My 'Atomic' branded analog clock (with sweep second hand) is a PITA,
eats batteries, and 2-3 times a year has an attack of the vapors and
starts resetting itself randomly, I have to force-reset it 2-3 times
before it synchs up reliably. Good thing I only paid five bucks at a

Yeah, I would think the mechanical clocks would be a bit more tricky
than the digital version.

garage sale. No biggie, I have 3-4 shortwaves that can hit WWV except
when sun is high in the sky.

The WWV seemed like a good idea to keep my VCR from always flashing
12:00. I fixed mine with electrical tape.

On Nov 17, 7:34*pm, Metspitzer wrote:
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:16:42 -0600, Bill Gill
wrote:





On 11/16/2010 1:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
I just bought a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. *Anyone know how much
adding the circuitry to the cost of the clock would be? *I would guess
less than 5 dollars. *Probably closer to 2 dollars.

You would think all digital clock radios would come with this built
in.

http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/radioclocks.cfm

I would like to be able to walk into a store and buy a radio controlled
clock radio. *They are available, but I haven't been able to find
one at any of the regular suspects. *For that matter there aren't
really very many wall clocks. *Most of the regular suspects have
"Atomic" wall clocks, but they have digital displays, not nice big
faces with second hands. *There are a few of them out there, but
not as many as I expected to have showing up when I first found out
about them.

Bill

The service should also broadcast the date. *This would be very handy
for reprogramming DVD recorders, TVs and answering machines that lose
time\date settings due to power outages. *It is not so much getting
the time to the exact second, it is the convenience of not having to
set the time at all.

If the low ball estimate of 9 cents for the technology is close,
everything should come with WWVB.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My television knows the time and date. Dunno how. And also the dvd
player/recorder. It knows about Winter and Summer time and leap years.
I wonder what else it knows.

harry wrote:

My television knows the time and date. Dunno how. And also the dvd
player/recorder. It knows about Winter and Summer time and leap years.
I wonder what else it knows.


It knows where you live... ;-)


--
For the last time: I am not a mad scientist! I m just a very ticked
off scientist!!!

On 11/17/2010 12:07 PM, Josepi wrote:
Why would you want to "radio control" the hands n a clock? They aren't going
to do your housework for you anyway as they don't actually leave the clock.

Get a big digital atomic clock. They work wonderfully, providing you are
close enough to a time beacon it uses.



"Bill wrote in message
...
I would like to be able to walk into a store and buy a radio controlled
clock radio. They are available, but I haven't been able to find
one at any of the regular suspects. For that matter there aren't
really very many wall clocks. Most of the regular suspects have
"Atomic" wall clocks, but they have digital displays, not nice big
faces with second hands. There are a few of them out there, but
not as many as I expected to have showing up when I first found out
about them.

Bill



That's what I'm talking about. The "atomic clocks" are synchronized
by a radio signal form the NIST's broadcast station in Boulder
Colorado.

Bill

On 11/18/2010 4:36 AM, harry wrote:
On Nov 17, 7:34 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:16:42 -0600, Bill
wrote:





On 11/16/2010 1:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
I just bought a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. Anyone know how much
adding the circuitry to the cost of the clock would be? I would guess
less than 5 dollars. Probably closer to 2 dollars.

You would think all digital clock radios would come with this built
in.

http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/radioclocks.cfm

I would like to be able to walk into a store and buy a radio controlled
clock radio. They are available, but I haven't been able to find
one at any of the regular suspects. For that matter there aren't
really very many wall clocks. Most of the regular suspects have
"Atomic" wall clocks, but they have digital displays, not nice big
faces with second hands. There are a few of them out there, but
not as many as I expected to have showing up when I first found out
about them.

Bill

The service should also broadcast the date. This would be very handy
for reprogramming DVD recorders, TVs and answering machines that lose
time\date settings due to power outages. It is not so much getting
the time to the exact second, it is the convenience of not having to
set the time at all.

If the low ball estimate of 9 cents for the technology is close,
everything should come with WWVB.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My television knows the time and date. Dunno how. And also the dvd
player/recorder. It knows about Winter and Summer time and leap years.
I wonder what else it knows.
My DVR knows the time and date because it gets them from the cable
provider. My TV doesn't. It is supposed to get it from the local
PBS station, but it has never worked right for me.

Bill

Bill Gill wrote:

On 11/18/2010 4:36 AM, harry wrote:
On Nov 17, 7:34 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:16:42 -0600, Bill
wrote:





On 11/16/2010 1:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
I just bought a WWVB Radio Controlled Clock. Anyone know how much
adding the circuitry to the cost of the clock would be? I would guess
less than 5 dollars. Probably closer to 2 dollars.

You would think all digital clock radios would come with this built
in.

http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/radioclocks.cfm

I would like to be able to walk into a store and buy a radio controlled
clock radio. They are available, but I haven't been able to find
one at any of the regular suspects. For that matter there aren't
really very many wall clocks. Most of the regular suspects have
"Atomic" wall clocks, but they have digital displays, not nice big
faces with second hands. There are a few of them out there, but
not as many as I expected to have showing up when I first found out
about them.

Bill

The service should also broadcast the date. This would be very handy
for reprogramming DVD recorders, TVs and answering machines that lose
time\date settings due to power outages. It is not so much getting
the time to the exact second, it is the convenience of not having to
set the time at all.

If the low ball estimate of 9 cents for the technology is close,
everything should come with WWVB.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My television knows the time and date. Dunno how. And also the dvd
player/recorder. It knows about Winter and Summer time and leap years.
I wonder what else it knows.
My DVR knows the time and date because it gets them from the cable
provider. My TV doesn't. It is supposed to get it from the local
PBS station, but it has never worked right for me.


Not all PBS stations transmit the time code.


--
For the last time: I am not a mad scientist! I m just a very ticked
off scientist!!!

On 11/18/2010 6:26 PM, Bill Gill wrote:
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My television knows the time and date. Dunno how. And also the dvd
player/recorder. It knows about Winter and Summer time and leap years.
I wonder what else it knows.
My DVR knows the time and date because it gets them from the cable
provider. My TV doesn't. It is supposed to get it from the local
PBS station, but it has never worked right for me.

Bill


It worked for me when OTA transmission was analog. Any device (TV, VCR,
DVR) that only has a NTSC tuner will no longer be able to automatically
set the time for it's built-in clock. I don't have any ATSC device that
claims to be able to set it's clock from OTA digital transmission
signals, so I don't know if that feature still exists with OTA-only
devices.

Anyone know if a time signal is still included in the OTA digital TV
signal? (I'm not talking about the visually displayed time that can be
checked by looking at the on-screen broadcast schedule page that many
converter boxes and digital TV devices have as a feature. I'm talking
about a synchronization signal intended to set built-in clocks.)