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My daughter hates to fill up with gas so I often siphon a few 5-gallon
cans to fill up her 18 gallon gasoline tank, which I don't mind at all.

The nearest gas station is a hefty drive away and I generally keep 5 five-
gallon cans full anyway, so the siphoning isn't at all a bother.

What I'd like to improve though, is the STARTING step of the second and
third gas cans, which I've only partially resolved with 'engineering'.

My hose is three parts:
- I stick an aluminum hollow camp chair leg into the 5-gallon jug
- I slip the flexible clear hose down that aluminum sleeve
- I clamped a second rigid (and thinner diameter) hose to the first hose

i) The aluminum sleeve keeps the hose at the bottom of the 5-gallon
portable gasoline container.
ii) The flexible clear hose shows the fluid (& bubble) flow
iii) The rigid smaller hose doesn't get stuck in the opening flap

In addition, the smaller rigid hose also gives me more time to move my
mouth away on the first gasoline can so that I never get a mouthful of
gasoline on the first can.

HOWEVER: The one problem I haven't totally resolved is the wetness of
gasoline on the second and third gasoline cans. Right now, I wipe the
smaller more rigid hose on the outside, but there are dribbles of gas on
the inside of the hose which I can (barely) taste on the second and third
cans.

Do you guys already have an ingenious idea to resolve that last as yet
unresolved siphoning problem?

(Please: I can already think of all the jokes so just skip the jokes if
you have nothing engineering wise to contribute).

Thanks in advance!
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Dr Rig wrote:
My daughter hates to fill up with gas so I often siphon a few 5-gallon
cans to fill up her 18 gallon gasoline tank, which I don't mind at
all.

The nearest gas station is a hefty drive away and I generally keep 5
five- gallon cans full anyway, so the siphoning isn't at all a bother.

What I'd like to improve though, is the STARTING step of the second
and third gas cans, which I've only partially resolved with
'engineering'.

My hose is three parts:
- I stick an aluminum hollow camp chair leg into the 5-gallon jug
- I slip the flexible clear hose down that aluminum sleeve
- I clamped a second rigid (and thinner diameter) hose to the first
hose

i) The aluminum sleeve keeps the hose at the bottom of the 5-gallon
portable gasoline container.
ii) The flexible clear hose shows the fluid (& bubble) flow
iii) The rigid smaller hose doesn't get stuck in the opening flap

In addition, the smaller rigid hose also gives me more time to move my
mouth away on the first gasoline can so that I never get a mouthful of
gasoline on the first can.

HOWEVER: The one problem I haven't totally resolved is the wetness of
gasoline on the second and third gasoline cans. Right now, I wipe the
smaller more rigid hose on the outside, but there are dribbles of gas
on the inside of the hose which I can (barely) taste on the second
and third cans.

Do you guys already have an ingenious idea to resolve that last as yet
unresolved siphoning problem?


Use a hose clamp to shut off the flow between cans.


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Dr Rig wrote:
My daughter hates to fill up with gas so I often siphon a few 5-gallon
cans to fill up her 18 gallon gasoline tank, which I don't mind at
all.

The nearest gas station is a hefty drive away and I generally keep 5
five- gallon cans full anyway, so the siphoning isn't at all a bother.

What I'd like to improve though, is the STARTING step of the second
and third gas cans, which I've only partially resolved with
'engineering'.

My hose is three parts:
- I stick an aluminum hollow camp chair leg into the 5-gallon jug
- I slip the flexible clear hose down that aluminum sleeve
- I clamped a second rigid (and thinner diameter) hose to the first
hose

i) The aluminum sleeve keeps the hose at the bottom of the 5-gallon
portable gasoline container.
ii) The flexible clear hose shows the fluid (& bubble) flow
iii) The rigid smaller hose doesn't get stuck in the opening flap

In addition, the smaller rigid hose also gives me more time to move my
mouth away on the first gasoline can so that I never get a mouthful of
gasoline on the first can.

HOWEVER: The one problem I haven't totally resolved is the wetness of
gasoline on the second and third gasoline cans. Right now, I wipe the
smaller more rigid hose on the outside, but there are dribbles of gas
on the inside of the hose which I can (barely) taste on the second
and third cans.

Do you guys already have an ingenious idea to resolve that last as yet
unresolved siphoning problem?

(Please: I can already think of all the jokes so just skip the jokes
if you have nothing engineering wise to contribute).

Thanks in advance!


No engineering necessary,

http://www.shopwiki.com/BULB+SIPHON+PUMP

Lots of products to overcome this.

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On Nov 13, 10:50*am, Dr Rig wrote:

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Do you guys already have an ingenious idea to resolve that last as yet
unresolved siphoning problem?


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Considering the hassle of a far away gas station, for convenience and
safety it would be smart to invest in a 'gas buggy'. Repair shops have
used them for years to safely handle things like draining fuel tanks
before remove and replace. They have their own usually hand operated
pump, and are UL approved. Not cheap, but far better than what you now
are doing. Check the usual auto equipment firms for price and
availability.

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Dr Rig wrote:
My daughter hates to fill up with gas so I often siphon a few 5-gallon
cans to fill up her 18 gallon gasoline tank, which I don't mind at
all.

The nearest gas station is a hefty drive away and I generally keep 5
five- gallon cans full anyway, so the siphoning isn't at all a bother.

What I'd like to improve though, is the STARTING step of the second
and third gas cans, which I've only partially resolved with
'engineering'.


It might be easier to just take the cans with you to the gas station.




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On 11/13/2010 11:50 AM, Dr Rig wrote:
My daughter hates to fill up with gas so I often siphon a few 5-gallon
cans to fill up her 18 gallon gasoline tank, which I don't mind at all.



Teach your daughter that along with the privilege of driving a car, the
task of filling it with fuel is mandatory. Mommy and Daddy won't always
be there to fill it for her so she may as well get used to it.
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Tony Miklos wrote:

On 11/13/2010 11:50 AM, Dr Rig wrote:
My daughter hates to fill up with gas so I often siphon a few 5-gallon
cans to fill up her 18 gallon gasoline tank, which I don't mind at all.



Teach your daughter that along with the privilege of driving a car, the
task of filling it with fuel is mandatory. Mommy and Daddy won't always
be there to fill it for her so she may as well get used to it.


You never know. Years ago I dated a woman whose 50-something mother had
never filled a car with gas in her life. I mean, not even been to a
full-service station. Husband did it for her, every time.
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On Nov 13, 10:37*am, Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,
*Tony Miklos wrote:

On 11/13/2010 11:50 AM, Dr Rig wrote:
My daughter hates to fill up with gas so I often siphon a few 5-gallon
cans to fill up her 18 gallon gasoline tank, which I don't mind at all.


Teach your daughter that along with the privilege of driving a car, the
task of filling it with fuel is mandatory. *Mommy and Daddy won't always
be there to fill it for her so she may as well get used to it.


I couldn't believe this whole thread! Father is not doing daughter
any favor,
tying himself into knots so the spoiled princess (I assume) won't have
to
fill up at a gas station. In fact, he's hurting her, because some day
she may
have to deal with a fill-up and not know how (is that so
complicated?).

You never know. Years ago I dated a woman whose 50-something mother had
never filled a car with gas in her life. I mean, not even been to a
full-service station. Husband did it for her, every time.


So what happened after he died?

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On 11/13/2010 1:28 PM, Tony Miklos wrote:
On 11/13/2010 11:50 AM, Dr Rig wrote:
My daughter hates to fill up with gas so I often siphon a few 5-gallon
cans to fill up her 18 gallon gasoline tank, which I don't mind at all.



Teach your daughter that along with the privilege of driving a car, the
task of filling it with fuel is mandatory. Mommy and Daddy won't always
be there to fill it for her so she may as well get used to it.


Not doing Dear Daughter any favors, Dad. She has to learn and accept
doing basic chores herself. At some point in her travels, she is passing
near a gas station, in all odds. She just has to plan to have the cash
and time to full up then and there.

But as to current dilemma- have you considered creating a gravity-feed
station? A tall sturdy table to set the gas can on, and a lid with a
hose and gasoline-safe valve? Turn the valve off, lift the can into
position, stick the hose down the filler neck, and open the valve.
Basically a hillbilly version of the old gravity-feed gas tanks farmers
used. Yes, you will have to put the can on its side so the lid is near
the low point, and if you are filling the car's tank, overflows are a
risk without a real gas nozzle with back-pressure cutoff in it. Although
I think you can actually buy those nozzles at tractor supply place.

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On 11/13/2010 1:28 PM, Tony Miklos wrote:
On 11/13/2010 11:50 AM, Dr Rig wrote:
My daughter hates to fill up with gas so I often siphon a few 5-gallon
cans to fill up her 18 gallon gasoline tank, which I don't mind at all.



Teach your daughter that along with the privilege of driving a car, the
task of filling it with fuel is mandatory. Mommy and Daddy won't always
be there to fill it for her so she may as well get used to it.


Not doing Dear Daughter any favors, Dad. She has to learn and accept
doing basic chores herself. At some point in her travels, she is passing
near a gas station, in all odds. She just has to plan to have the cash
and time to full up then and there.


Well, I hate to chime in because the OP specifically asked for no comments
about the wisdom of doing this but . . . it's a not a good thing to cater
to a fear of gas pumps. It's probably going to result one day in her
getting stranded somewhere, alone on a dark highway. All sorts of bad
things can happen to the engine by running on empty as the junk in the
bottom of the tank gets into the fuel lines. Running on E cost my roommate
nearly $1000 bucks on his fuel injected Volvo. It's remembering the look on
his face when writing that check that inspires me to fill up when at 1/4
full, even if the gas is more expensive than where I usually shop, or if
it's raining or if I am in a hurry.

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Dr Rig wrote:
My daughter hates to fill up with gas so I often siphon a few 5-gallon
cans to fill up her 18 gallon gasoline tank, which I don't mind at all.

The nearest gas station is a hefty drive away and I generally keep 5 five-
gallon cans full anyway, so the siphoning isn't at all a bother.

What I'd like to improve though, is the STARTING step of the second and
third gas cans, which I've only partially resolved with 'engineering'.

My hose is three parts:
- I stick an aluminum hollow camp chair leg into the 5-gallon jug
- I slip the flexible clear hose down that aluminum sleeve
- I clamped a second rigid (and thinner diameter) hose to the first hose

i) The aluminum sleeve keeps the hose at the bottom of the 5-gallon
portable gasoline container.
ii) The flexible clear hose shows the fluid (& bubble) flow
iii) The rigid smaller hose doesn't get stuck in the opening flap

In addition, the smaller rigid hose also gives me more time to move my
mouth away on the first gasoline can so that I never get a mouthful of
gasoline on the first can.

HOWEVER: The one problem I haven't totally resolved is the wetness of
gasoline on the second and third gasoline cans. Right now, I wipe the
smaller more rigid hose on the outside, but there are dribbles of gas on
the inside of the hose which I can (barely) taste on the second and third
cans.

Do you guys already have an ingenious idea to resolve that last as yet
unresolved siphoning problem?

(Please: I can already think of all the jokes so just skip the jokes if
you have nothing engineering wise to contribute).

Thanks in advance!


http://www.rehabmart.com/product/jac...pump-4645.html

No excuse for it being that expensive. It's a loop of tubing
with rollers on the crank forming a peristaltic pump.
Sometimes, you find 'em at garage sales for cheap.
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On 11/13/2010 3:33 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Nov 13, 10:37 am, Smitty wrote:
In ,
Tony wrote:

On 11/13/2010 11:50 AM, Dr Rig wrote:
My daughter hates to fill up with gas so I often siphon a few 5-gallon
cans to fill up her 18 gallon gasoline tank, which I don't mind at all.


Teach your daughter that along with the privilege of driving a car, the
task of filling it with fuel is mandatory. Mommy and Daddy won't always
be there to fill it for her so she may as well get used to it.


I couldn't believe this whole thread! Father is not doing daughter
any favor,
tying himself into knots so the spoiled princess (I assume) won't have
to
fill up at a gas station. In fact, he's hurting her, because some day
she may
have to deal with a fill-up and not know how (is that so
complicated?).

You never know. Years ago I dated a woman whose 50-something mother had
never filled a car with gas in her life. I mean, not even been to a
full-service station. Husband did it for her, every time.


So what happened after he died?


Well that's simple! She ran out of gas!
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Higgs Boson wrote:

On Nov 13, 10:37*am, Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,
*Tony Miklos wrote:

On 11/13/2010 11:50 AM, Dr Rig wrote:
My daughter hates to fill up with gas so I often siphon a few 5-gallon
cans to fill up her 18 gallon gasoline tank, which I don't mind at all.


Teach your daughter that along with the privilege of driving a car, the
task of filling it with fuel is mandatory. *Mommy and Daddy won't always
be there to fill it for her so she may as well get used to it.


I couldn't believe this whole thread! Father is not doing daughter
any favor,
tying himself into knots so the spoiled princess (I assume) won't have
to
fill up at a gas station. In fact, he's hurting her, because some day
she may
have to deal with a fill-up and not know how (is that so
complicated?).

You never know. Years ago I dated a woman whose 50-something mother had
never filled a car with gas in her life. I mean, not even been to a
full-service station. Husband did it for her, every time.


So what happened after he died?


He ain't dead yet.
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On Nov 13, 2:27*pm, mike wrote:
Dr Rig wrote:
My daughter hates to fill up with gas so I often siphon a few 5-gallon
cans to fill up her 18 gallon gasoline tank, which I don't mind at all.


The nearest gas station is a hefty drive away and I generally keep 5 five-
gallon cans full anyway, so the siphoning isn't at all a bother.


What I'd like to improve though, is the STARTING step of the second and
third gas cans, which I've only partially resolved with 'engineering'.


My hose is three parts:
- I stick an aluminum hollow camp chair leg into the 5-gallon jug
- I slip the flexible clear hose down that aluminum sleeve
- I clamped a second rigid (and thinner diameter) hose to the first hose


i) The aluminum sleeve keeps the hose at the bottom of the 5-gallon
portable gasoline container.
ii) The flexible clear hose shows the fluid (& bubble) flow
iii) The rigid smaller hose doesn't get stuck in the opening flap


In addition, the smaller rigid hose also gives me more time to move my
mouth away on the first gasoline can so that I never get a mouthful of
gasoline on the first can.


HOWEVER: The one problem I haven't totally resolved is the wetness of
gasoline on the second and third gasoline cans. Right now, I wipe the
smaller more rigid hose on the outside, but there are dribbles of gas on
the inside of the hose which I can (barely) taste on the second and third
cans.


Do you guys already have an ingenious idea to resolve that last as yet
unresolved siphoning problem?


(Please: I can already think of all the jokes so just skip the jokes if
you have nothing engineering wise to contribute).


Thanks in advance!


http://www.rehabmart.com/product/jac...pump-4645.html

No excuse for it being that expensive. *It's a loop of tubing
with rollers on the crank forming a peristaltic pump.
Sometimes, you find 'em at garage sales for cheap.- Hide quoted text -

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The various siphoning tools available for cheap in auto stores. I
haven't had much luck with them though.

If you have a compressor, a rag and stick the nozzle into whatever you
are siphoning out of. One blast and your siphon is running.

Harry K
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