Too many people are watching too much HGTV and similar channels and
getting the idea that a contractor is supposed to finish a job very
fast. This is wrong. A contractor doesn’t work by the hour like you
do; he works by the job. The more carefully he or she works the better
a job he or she is going to do. So the slower he works the better. No
I’m not talking about those contractors that come late to the job
sight and leave early or never show-up at all. That’s not working
slowly, that’s just not working period. Unless you’re planing on
selling the house and moving away as soon as possible as homeowner
what you want is a carefully and meticulously done job not a fast one.

On Oct 14, 8:01*pm, Molly Brown wrote:
Too many people are watching too much HGTV and similar channels and
getting the idea that a contractor is supposed to finish a job very
fast. This is wrong. A contractor doesn’t work by the hour like you
do; he works by the job. The more carefully he or she works the better
a job he or she is going to do. So the slower he works the better. No
I’m not talking about those contractors that come late to the job
sight and leave early or never show-up at all. That’s not working
slowly, that’s just not working period. Unless you’re planing on
selling the house and moving away as soon as possible as homeowner
what you want is a carefully and meticulously done job not a fast one.

Good, fast or cheap. You can buy any two of the three, but you can't
buy all three.

R

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RicodJour wrote:

On Oct 14, 8:01*pm, Molly Brown wrote:
Too many people are watching too much HGTV and similar channels and
getting the idea that a contractor is supposed to finish a job very
fast. This is wrong. A contractor doesn¹t work by the hour like you
do; he works by the job. The more carefully he or she works the better
a job he or she is going to do. So the slower he works the better. No
I¹m not talking about those contractors that come late to the job
sight and leave early or never show-up at all. That¹s not working
slowly, that¹s just not working period. Unless you¹re planing on
selling the house and moving away as soon as possible as homeowner
what you want is a carefully and meticulously done job not a fast one.

Good, fast or cheap. You can buy any two of the three, but you can't
buy all three.

R

Well, I wouldn't want to buy cheap anyway. Then it wouldn't be cheap.
"Sure, I can do that job for you for $350. But you have to pay me $1000
to get that price."

They should watch the un cut tapes. I can fix all your problems in 30
mins.


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On Oct 15, 6:13*am, Paul Haus wrote:
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:57:19 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour



wrote:
On Oct 14, 8:01*pm, Molly Brown wrote:
Too many people are watching too much HGTV and similar channels and
getting the idea that a contractor is supposed to finish a job very
fast. This is wrong. A contractor doesn’t work by the hour like you
do; he works by the job. The more carefully he or she works the better
a job he or she is going to do. So the slower he works the better. No
I’m not talking about those contractors that come late to the job
sight and leave early or never show-up at all. That’s not working
slowly, that’s just not working period. Unless you’re planing on
selling the house and moving away as soon as possible as homeowner
what you want is a carefully and meticulously done job not a fast one.

Good, fast or cheap. *You can buy any two of the three, but you can't
buy all three.


Excellent advice! I have never utilized the low bidder on any
construction.

Such rules of thumb are useful, and save computing power for more
important tasks. One such rule: buy the second cheapest wine on the
menu. It's usually the best value, whereas the cheapest is only there
because it's the cheapest.

R

On Oct 15, 10:30*am, RicodJour wrote:
On Oct 15, 6:13*am, Paul Haus wrote:





On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:57:19 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour

wrote:
On Oct 14, 8:01*pm, Molly Brown wrote:
Too many people are watching too much HGTV and similar channels and
getting the idea that a contractor is supposed to finish a job very
fast. This is wrong. A contractor doesn’t work by the hour like you
do; he works by the job. The more carefully he or she works the better
a job he or she is going to do. So the slower he works the better. No
I’m not talking about those contractors that come late to the job
sight and leave early or never show-up at all. That’s not working
slowly, that’s just not working period. Unless you’re planing on
selling the house and moving away as soon as possible as homeowner
what you want is a carefully and meticulously done job not a fast one.

Good, fast or cheap. *You can buy any two of the three, but you can't
buy all three.

Excellent advice! I have never utilized the low bidder on any
construction.

Such rules of thumb are useful, and save computing power for more
important tasks. *One such rule: buy the second cheapest wine on the
menu. *It's usually the best value, whereas the cheapest is only there
because it's the cheapest.

R- Hide quoted text -

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I agree about the two out of three. On most home stuff I look for
cheap and good. I had a guy spend a year builidng a garage with
living space above at our lake house. Probably could have easily been
done in 2 or 3 months. But his work was fine and his price was $20k
under the next bidder.

On Oct 14, 8:01*pm, Molly Brown wrote:
Too many people are watching too much HGTV and similar channels and
getting the idea that a contractor is supposed to finish a job very
fast. This is wrong. A contractor doesn’t work by the hour like you
do; he works by the job. The more carefully he or she works the better
a job he or she is going to do. So the slower he works the better. No
I’m not talking about those contractors that come late to the job
sight and leave early or never show-up at all. That’s not working
slowly, that’s just not working period. Unless you’re planing on
selling the house and moving away as soon as possible as homeowner
what you want is a carefully and meticulously done job not a fast one.

Good points, but keep in mind that the disruption of your lifestyle
may enter into the discussion.

A family with young children and no kitchen for an extended period of
time can be problematic.

A 6 person household with no bathroom for an extended period of time
can be even more problematic.

Just another factor to keep in mind.

Molly Brown wrote the following:
Too many people are watching too much HGTV and similar channels and
getting the idea that a contractor is supposed to finish a job very
fast. This is wrong. A contractor doesn’t work by the hour like you
do; he works by the job. The more carefully he or she works the better
a job he or she is going to do. So the slower he works the better. No
I’m not talking about those contractors that come late to the job
sight and leave early or never show-up at all. That’s not working
slowly, that’s just not working period. Unless you’re planing on
selling the house and moving away as soon as possible as homeowner
what you want is a carefully and meticulously done job not a fast one.


Sorry Molly, the shorter the time working 'by the job', the sooner one
can start the next job.
Working slower can also mean inexperience or laziness.
The contractor sets the price for the job. He then pays his workers by
the hour.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

On Oct 15, 7:48*pm, willshak wrote:
Molly Brown wrote the following:

Too many people are watching too much HGTV and similar channels and
getting the idea that a contractor is supposed to finish a job very
fast. This is wrong. A contractor doesn’t work by the hour like you
do; he works by the job. The more carefully he or she works the better
a job he or she is going to do. So the slower he works the better. No
I’m not talking about those contractors that come late to the job
sight and leave early or never show-up at all. That’s not working
slowly, that’s just not working period. Unless you’re planing on
selling the house and moving away as soon as possible as homeowner
what you want is a carefully and meticulously done job not a fast one.

Sorry Molly, the shorter the time working 'by the job', the sooner one
can start the next job.
Working slower can also mean inexperience or laziness.
The contractor sets the price for the job. He then pays his workers by
the hour.

Or it can mean that he's fitting your job in between other jobs. If
he's waiting for an inspection on his main job, you just got lucky and
he'll come over. Does doing it that way make sense? Not always, but
it's not always idiotic either.

R

On 10/15/2010 8:33 PM, RicodJour wrote:
On Oct 15, 7:48 pm, wrote:
Molly Brown wrote the following:

Too many people are watching too much HGTV and similar channels and
getting the idea that a contractor is supposed to finish a job very
fast. This is wrong. A contractor doesn’t work by the hour like you
do; he works by the job. The more carefully he or she works the better
a job he or she is going to do. So the slower he works the better. No
I’m not talking about those contractors that come late to the job
sight and leave early or never show-up at all. That’s not working
slowly, that’s just not working period. Unless you’re planing on
selling the house and moving away as soon as possible as homeowner
what you want is a carefully and meticulously done job not a fast one.

Sorry Molly, the shorter the time working 'by the job', the sooner one
can start the next job.
Working slower can also mean inexperience or laziness.
The contractor sets the price for the job. He then pays his workers by
the hour.

Or it can mean that he's fitting your job in between other jobs. If
he's waiting for an inspection on his main job, you just got lucky and
he'll come over. Does doing it that way make sense? Not always, but
it's not always idiotic either.

R

And if it is contractor you can trust to actually follow through, and
can live with the logistical hassle, being flexible on schedule can
sometimes save you some bucks. A good contractor with his own crews
(versus a GC that merely juggles subs), has all his projects blocked out
to know when which trades will be needed where and when. I didn't know
the name, but I knew what a Gantt chart was 40 years before MS Project
existed, just from looking at the blue sheets on the walls in my
father's office. Every house had a stepped timeline on a blueprint page,
with each trade on a seperate step. Sometimes, there were small gaps
here and there, and although his business was 80% new construction, he
would try to tuck the small remodels into those gaps, just to keep the
guys busy. I suppose a good sub could do the same for their crews and
specialties, but they are more at the beck and call of the GCs who give
them most of their business. (ie, a 10k kitchen remodel is gonna get
pushed for a GC that throws 100k a year their way.)

--
aem sends...

On Oct 14, 8:01*pm, Molly Brown wrote:
Too many people are watching too much HGTV and similar channels and
getting the idea that a contractor is supposed to finish a job very
fast. This is wrong. A contractor doesn’t work by the hour like you
do; he works by the job. The more carefully he or she works the better
a job he or she is going to do. So the slower he works the better. No
I’m not talking about those contractors that come late to the job
sight and leave early or never show-up at all. That’s not working
slowly, that’s just not working period. Unless you’re planing on
selling the house and moving away as soon as possible as homeowner
what you want is a carefully and meticulously done job not a fast one.


What PLANET are you on lady ?

I think YOU watch too much HGTV yourself...

In business time is money, and a Contractor is paid by the job hoping
to make a decent profit off the quote he or she gave to the client...

Unless said project is so entirely small that ONE PERSON can do
all the work, said contractor will be using employees that get paid
by the hour, not by the job like the contractor/company is being
paid...

So the more man-hours of labor spent on your project, the less
profit that project is making for the company and it is costing
in LABOR hourly pay...

Your entire idiot-babble only makes sense for one-man shows
and handy man types who are doing ALL THE WORK FOR
THEMSELVES... Not the way that MOST of the contracting
market out there works...

~~ Evan

Molly Brown wrote:
....
getting the idea that a contractor is supposed to finish a job very
fast. This is wrong. A contractor doesn’t work by the hour ...

Any construction project done w/o a profit motive is DIY-'ing, not a
contractor job...

--

On Oct 16, 1:56*pm, dpb wrote:
Molly Brown wrote:

getting the idea that a contractor is supposed to finish a job very
fast. This is wrong. A contractor doesn’t work by the hour ...

Any construction project done w/o a profit motive is DIY-'ing, not a
contractor job...

Operative word being 'motive'.

R