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Small Engine Carburetor Rebuild or Replace?
How do I know to replace a carburetor on a small engine instead of
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Small Engine Carburetor Rebuild or Replace?
On Sep 26, 7:07*pm, Jon Claude Killy wrote:
How do I know to replace a carburetor on a small engine instead of rebuilding the carburetor? How available and expensive is a new one? How much to rebuild? If you do the work, How experienced are you, or confident, are you with a rebuild? Is there any rust on the old carb?? Do you just want to get it repaired quickly or do you want to save a few bucks and maybe learn something but even if you totally screw it up then you really learned something hopefully yu can still afford the replacement, lol. |
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Small Engine Carburetor Rebuild or Replace?
In article , Jon Claude Killy wrote:
How do I know to replace a carburetor on a small engine instead of rebuilding the carburetor? Assuming that you are able to rebuild the carb, the only reason I can think of for not doing so is inability to find the parts needed for rebuilding -- usually only a float, needle valve, and one gasket, IME. |
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Small Engine Carburetor Rebuild or Replace?
On Sep 26, 7:07*pm, Jon Claude Killy wrote:
How do I know to replace a carburetor on a small engine instead of rebuilding the carburetor? What make, model, age, conditon, problems you are having that make you think it is the carburetor??????? |
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Small Engine Carburetor Rebuild or Replace?
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 00:40:36 +0000, Doug Miller wrote:
In article , Jon Claude Killy wrote: How do I know to replace a carburetor on a small engine instead of rebuilding the carburetor? Assuming that you are able to rebuild the carb, the only reason I can think of for not doing so is inability to find the parts needed for rebuilding -- usually only a float, needle valve, and one gasket, IME. I seem to find a lot where the holes in the carb body for the throttle plate spindle have worn, so they leak a lot of air around the pivots - I don't think anything to fix that is usually in rebuild kits. They can probably be drilled and some form of sleeve fitted, but finding a suitable sleeve might be tricky. (I've never seen a bad float - heard of it happening many a time, but I'm yet to find one in any carb that I've had apart!) cheers Jules |
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Small Engine Carburetor Rebuild or Replace?
On Sep 26, 10:18*pm, Jules Richardson
wrote: I seem to find a lot where the holes in the carb body for the throttle plate spindle have worn, so they leak a lot of air around the pivots - I don't think anything to fix that is usually in rebuild kits. They can probably be drilled and some form of sleeve fitted, but finding a suitable sleeve might be tricky. (I've never seen a bad float - heard of it happening many a time, but I'm yet to find one in any carb that I've had apart!) cheers Jules I agree with Jules. I've "cleaned" a lot of carbs on motorcycles/ATV's and mowers. I guess you could call them rebuilt if you want to, but 99% of the time they only need dis-assembled and the jets/transfer ports cleaned. I have never seen a float that leaked, but have seen some bad float valves and bad float settings. I can't remember the last time I even had to buy a gasket or kit. Like Jules said, the only time you would ever need to replace a carb is when the throttle plate shaft wears down the housing to the point of having so much slop that it lets air leak thru. Or, the housing is broke/cracked for some reason. Hank |
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On Sep 26, 9:18*pm, Jules Richardson
wrote: On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 00:40:36 +0000, Doug Miller wrote: In article , Jon Claude Killy wrote: How do I know to replace a carburetor on a small engine instead of rebuilding the carburetor? Assuming that you are able to rebuild the carb, the only reason I can think of for not doing so is inability to find the parts needed for rebuilding -- usually only a float, needle valve, and one gasket, IME. I seem to find a lot where the holes in the carb body for the throttle plate spindle have worn, so they leak a lot of air around the pivots - I don't think anything to fix that is usually in rebuild kits. They can probably be drilled and some form of sleeve fitted, but finding a suitable sleeve might be tricky. (I've never seen a bad float - heard of it happening many a time, but I'm yet to find one in any carb that I've had apart!) cheers Jules I have seen 2 gas-logged floats. One I needed fast...emptied and heat- dried it and soldered the hole closed. Most carbs can be cleaned and adjusted without rebuilding. Some mechanics will charge for the rebuilding kit and not even install it. I'm not saying most...just some! |
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Small Engine Carburetor Rebuild or Replace?
On Sep 26, 7:07*pm, Jon Claude Killy wrote:
How do I know to replace a carburetor on a small engine instead of rebuilding the carburetor? Have you priced a new carburator lately? Do it and you'll answer your own question. |
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Small Engine Carburetor Rebuild or Replace?
KC wrote:
On Sep 26, 7:07*pm, Jon Claude Killy wrote: How do I know to replace a carburetor on a small engine instead of rebuilding the carburetor? Have you priced a new carburator lately? Do it and you'll answer your own question. I've said before that they were too cheap to spend any time/money futzing with an old one--- but I've met resistance every time so I quit posting it. I guess it is a matter of choice & what else one might do with that time to frustrate themselves. Jim |
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Small Engine Carburetor Rebuild or Replace?
Jim Elbrecht wrote:
.... I've said before that they were too cheap to spend any time/money futzing with an old one--- ... I don't know what your carburetors are or where you're getting them but "cheap" hasn't been in the lexicon of any I've had to deal with... I think the other poster was implying if OP were to price a new he'd definitely be looking at rebuilding if I were to guess the intent. -- |
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Small Engine Carburetor Rebuild or Replace?
"KC" wrote in message ... On Sep 26, 7:07 pm, Jon Claude Killy wrote: How do I know to replace a carburetor on a small engine instead of rebuilding the carburetor? Have you priced a new carburator lately? Do it and you'll answer your own question. reply: That's when you can find them. There isn't a huge stock of carburetors at the local store, and a lot of them are out of production. I have an updraft carburetor on a Lincoln welder with a Continental engine. I had to rebuild it myself, and that included making new gaskets. It works. On some of the older models, you can fergeddabout finding new carburetors. Steve Heart surgery pending? Read up and prepare. Learn how to care for a friend. http://cabgbypasssurgery.com |
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Small Engine Carburetor Rebuild or Replace?
"Jim Elbrecht" wrote in message ... KC wrote: On Sep 26, 7:07 pm, Jon Claude Killy wrote: How do I know to replace a carburetor on a small engine instead of rebuilding the carburetor? Have you priced a new carburator lately? Do it and you'll answer your own question. I've said before that they were too cheap to spend any time/money futzing with an old one--- but I've met resistance every time so I quit posting it. I guess it is a matter of choice & what else one might do with that time to frustrate themselves. Jim They get $5 or more for the little rubber primer bulb on a Briggs. Can't imagine what they would want for the whole carb. Steve Heart surgery pending? Read up and prepare. Learn how to care for a friend. http://cabgbypasssurgery.com |
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Small Engine Carburetor Rebuild or Replace?
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:52:25 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: "Jim Elbrecht" wrote in message .. . KC wrote: On Sep 26, 7:07 pm, Jon Claude Killy wrote: How do I know to replace a carburetor on a small engine instead of rebuilding the carburetor? Have you priced a new carburator lately? Do it and you'll answer your own question. I've said before that they were too cheap to spend any time/money futzing with an old one--- but I've met resistance every time so I quit posting it. I guess it is a matter of choice & what else one might do with that time to frustrate themselves. Jim They get $5 or more for the little rubber primer bulb on a Briggs. Can't imagine what they would want for the whole carb. About $50 for most of the ones I've priced in the last few years. I hate to waste $30, a day of running around, remove, clean, replace, pray- and then find out it was one of those balls under a Welch plug that won't reseat. For $50- I remove, replace, and start the engine. [the last two I got were dead on adjusted from the factory.] Look yours up- http://www.jackssmallengines.com/bri...gine_parts.cfm [his site search sucks so I use the part number & Google it once I get to his site] Jim |
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On Sep 28, 7:18*am, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:52:25 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Jim Elbrecht" wrote in message .. . KC wrote: On Sep 26, 7:07 pm, Jon Claude Killy wrote: How do I know to replace a carburetor on a small engine instead of rebuilding the carburetor? Have you priced a new carburator lately? Do it and you'll answer your own question. I've said before that they were too cheap to spend any time/money futzing with an old one--- but I've met resistance every time so I quit posting it. * * I guess it is a matter of choice & what else one might do with that time to frustrate themselves. Jim They get $5 or more for the little rubber primer bulb on a Briggs. *Can't imagine what they would want for the whole carb. About $50 for most of the ones I've priced in the last few years. I hate to waste $30, a day of running around, remove, clean, replace, pray- and then find out it was one of those balls under a Welch plug that won't reseat. * *For $50- I remove, replace, and start the engine. [the last two I got were dead on adjusted from the factory.] *Look yours up- http://www.jackssmallengines.com/bri...gine_parts.cfm [his site search sucks so I use the part number & Google it once I get to his site] Jim- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I remove, clean, and put back on. No running around. Cost $0. |
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On Sep 28, 6:57*am, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Sep 28, 7:18*am, Jim Elbrecht wrote: On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:52:25 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Jim Elbrecht" wrote in message .. . KC wrote: On Sep 26, 7:07 pm, Jon Claude Killy wrote: How do I know to replace a carburetor on a small engine instead of rebuilding the carburetor? Have you priced a new carburator lately? Do it and you'll answer your own question. I've said before that they were too cheap to spend any time/money futzing with an old one--- but I've met resistance every time so I quit posting it. * * I guess it is a matter of choice & what else one might do with that time to frustrate themselves. Jim They get $5 or more for the little rubber primer bulb on a Briggs. *Can't imagine what they would want for the whole carb. About $50 for most of the ones I've priced in the last few years. I hate to waste $30, a day of running around, remove, clean, replace, pray- and then find out it was one of those balls under a Welch plug that won't reseat. * *For $50- I remove, replace, and start the engine. [the last two I got were dead on adjusted from the factory.] *Look yours up- http://www.jackssmallengines.com/bri...gine_parts.cfm [his site search sucks so I use the part number & Google it once I get to his site] Jim- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I remove, clean, and put back on. *No running around. *Cost $0. On 2_cycle carbs: turn Hi and Lo screws in (until they lightly bottom) half turn at-a-time (make a note of each); spray WD or carb cleaner into the holes (with spray tubes); turn screws until they lightly bottom and back-out as you previously noted for each. No dis-assembly. No running around. Cost $0. |
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Small Engine Carburetor Rebuild or Replace?
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-snip- On 2_cycle carbs: turn Hi and Lo screws in (until they lightly bottom) half turn at-a-time (make a note of each); spray WD or carb cleaner into the holes (with spray tubes); turn screws until they lightly bottom and back-out as you previously noted for each. No dis-assembly. No running around. Cost $0. That's step 3. Step 1 is determine it is a gas problem. Step 2 is dump gas and replace with fresh. Then step 3. . . . If all that fails- Step 4 is buy a new carb and go do something else until the UPS guy drops it off. Jim |
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On Sep 28, 8:14*am, Bob Villa wrote:
On Sep 28, 6:57*am, jamesgangnc wrote: On Sep 28, 7:18*am, Jim Elbrecht wrote: On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:52:25 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Jim Elbrecht" wrote in message .. . KC wrote: On Sep 26, 7:07 pm, Jon Claude Killy wrote: How do I know to replace a carburetor on a small engine instead of rebuilding the carburetor? Have you priced a new carburator lately? Do it and you'll answer your own question. I've said before that they were too cheap to spend any time/money futzing with an old one--- but I've met resistance every time so I quit posting it. * * I guess it is a matter of choice & what else one might do with that time to frustrate themselves. Jim They get $5 or more for the little rubber primer bulb on a Briggs. *Can't imagine what they would want for the whole carb. About $50 for most of the ones I've priced in the last few years. I hate to waste $30, a day of running around, remove, clean, replace, pray- and then find out it was one of those balls under a Welch plug that won't reseat. * *For $50- I remove, replace, and start the engine. [the last two I got were dead on adjusted from the factory.] *Look yours up- http://www.jackssmallengines.com/bri...gine_parts.cfm [his site search sucks so I use the part number & Google it once I get to his site] Jim- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I remove, clean, and put back on. *No running around. *Cost $0. On 2_cycle carbs: turn Hi and Lo screws in (until they lightly bottom) half turn at-a-time (make a note of each); spray WD or carb cleaner into the holes (with spray tubes); turn screws until they lightly bottom and back-out as you previously noted for each. No dis-assembly. *No running around. Cost $0.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's fine on my 30 year old chain saw. But if you've bought anything recently you'll find that it has no high/low screws. They are factory set and blocked or otherwise unaccessible. |
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On Sep 28, 9:00*am, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Sep 28, 8:14*am, Bob Villa wrote: On Sep 28, 6:57*am, jamesgangnc wrote: On Sep 28, 7:18*am, Jim Elbrecht wrote: On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:52:25 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Jim Elbrecht" wrote in message .. . KC wrote: On Sep 26, 7:07 pm, Jon Claude Killy wrote: How do I know to replace a carburetor on a small engine instead of rebuilding the carburetor? Have you priced a new carburator lately? Do it and you'll answer your own question. I've said before that they were too cheap to spend any time/money futzing with an old one--- but I've met resistance every time so I quit posting it. * * I guess it is a matter of choice & what else one might do with that time to frustrate themselves. Jim They get $5 or more for the little rubber primer bulb on a Briggs. *Can't imagine what they would want for the whole carb. About $50 for most of the ones I've priced in the last few years. I hate to waste $30, a day of running around, remove, clean, replace, pray- and then find out it was one of those balls under a Welch plug that won't reseat. * *For $50- I remove, replace, and start the engine. [the last two I got were dead on adjusted from the factory.] *Look yours up- http://www.jackssmallengines.com/bri...gine_parts.cfm [his site search sucks so I use the part number & Google it once I get to his site] Jim- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I remove, clean, and put back on. *No running around. *Cost $0. On 2_cycle carbs: turn Hi and Lo screws in (until they lightly bottom) half turn at-a-time (make a note of each); spray WD or carb cleaner into the holes (with spray tubes); turn screws until they lightly bottom and back-out as you previously noted for each. No dis-assembly. *No running around. Cost $0.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's fine on my 30 year old chain saw. *But if you've bought anything recently you'll find that it has no high/low screws. *They are factory set and blocked or otherwise unaccessible.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Depends on what's wrong with the carb. If it just needs a rebuild kit, which is gasket, needle valve, etc, I've bought them on Ebay for 5hp snowblower engine for $10. In my experience, cleaning it out completely, which requires the rebuild kit, is usually all it needs. If it needs that plus a float or float bowl, etc, that need to be replaced, then you can find out the cost of that vs buying a new one. It also depends on your skills and if you can follow repair instructions. One caveat, the rebuild kit I used did not include the gasket to mount the carb to the intake. Make sure you buy one of those too. |
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Small Engine Carburetor Rebuild or Replace?
On Sep 28, 5:34*am, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
That's step 3. * *Step 1 is determine it is a gas problem. * * Step 2 is dump gas and replace with fresh. Jim Step 2 can replace Step 1. *L* |
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