Saw a post a while ago about making weed killer using vinegar and something
else. Cannot find the post now. Can someone repost the formula?

Thanks,

R

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:31:27 -0400, "ROANIN"
wrote:

Saw a post a while ago about making weed killer using vinegar and something
else. Cannot find the post now. Can someone repost the formula?

Thanks,

R


I posted this video awhile ago. It mentions using _heated_ vinegar and
salt. Heating the vinegar helps the salt dissolve easily and then
sprayed on weeds in driveways and sidewalks.

http://www.youtube.com/UNRExtension

Came from University of Nevada Cooperative Extension.

Oren wrote:
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:31:27 -0400, "ROANIN"
wrote:

Saw a post a while ago about making weed killer using vinegar and
something else. Cannot find the post now. Can someone repost the
formula?

Thanks,

R


I posted this video awhile ago. It mentions using _heated_ vinegar and
salt. Heating the vinegar helps the salt dissolve easily and then
sprayed on weeds in driveways and sidewalks.

http://www.youtube.com/UNRExtension

Came from University of Nevada Cooperative Extension.
Thanks Oren

"ROANIN" wrote in message
...


Oren wrote:
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:31:27 -0400, "ROANIN"
wrote:

Saw a post a while ago about making weed killer using vinegar and
something else. Cannot find the post now. Can someone repost the
formula?

Thanks,

R


I posted this video awhile ago. It mentions using _heated_ vinegar and
salt. Heating the vinegar helps the salt dissolve easily and then
sprayed on weeds in driveways and sidewalks.

http://www.youtube.com/UNRExtension

Came from University of Nevada Cooperative Extension.
Thanks Oren


You may have been talking about 1 pint (20% garden vinegar) and 2 tbls
citrus oil but try the heated method too. I'm still having trouble with
certain types of weeds. I'm going to look into Oren's link next time.

Jim

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 18:59:32 -0500, "JimT" wrote:


"ROANIN" wrote in message
...


Oren wrote:
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:31:27 -0400, "ROANIN"
wrote:

Saw a post a while ago about making weed killer using vinegar and
something else. Cannot find the post now. Can someone repost the
formula?

Thanks,

R


I posted this video awhile ago. It mentions using _heated_ vinegar and
salt. Heating the vinegar helps the salt dissolve easily and then
sprayed on weeds in driveways and sidewalks.

http://www.youtube.com/UNRExtension

Came from University of Nevada Cooperative Extension.
Thanks Oren


You may have been talking about 1 pint (20% garden vinegar) and 2 tbls
citrus oil but try the heated method too. I'm still having trouble with
certain types of weeds. I'm going to look into Oren's link next time.

Jim


I read the post, using vinegar and citrus oil.

Using salt, instead the formula would be:

One glass of vinegar, heated.

4 tbls of salt added, stirred to dissolve the salt.

A bottle sprayer is then used to spray the weeds.

I've not tried either method, yet. My neighbor was spraying his front
rock landscape recently with Roundup. I'll try the heated vinegar and
salt to try and kill some weeds he missed. Just for giggles.

Oren wrote:
....

I've not tried either method, yet. My neighbor was spraying his front
rock landscape recently with Roundup. I'll try the heated vinegar and
salt to try and kill some weeds he missed. Just for giggles.

Just remember to not use something like this where expect to have any
other cover any time. In a rock area, patio, sidewalk cracks, etc.,
it'll be ok but don't use it to spot stuff in the yard, for example.
The salt will be a real problem in that case for quite a long time.

--

"ROANIN" wrote

Saw a post a while ago about making weed killer using vinegar and
something else. Cannot find the post now. Can someone repost the formula?

I just use the cheap white or pale golden stuff sold by the gallon at the
food store. Use straight. Another adds salt which seems harmless.

On Sep 26, 4:31*pm, "ROANIN" wrote:
Saw a post a while ago about making weed killer using vinegar and something
else. Cannot find the post now. Can someone repost the formula?

Thanks,

R

Can anyone say how effective this is?

It sounds perfect for "flooding" my patio pavers so it goes deep
between them without leaving a toxic residue soaking into the brick.
There is a restaurant supply here that has great prices on vinegar.
It will clean the pavers too if I use it as an acid wash and get
killer down between the pavers at the same time while scrubbing.
Please post how effective it is as a weed kill. I suppose muratic
acid will work too but that is really harsh.

RickH wrote:
-snip-

It sounds perfect for "flooding" my patio pavers so it goes deep
between them without leaving a toxic residue soaking into the brick.
There is a restaurant supply here that has great prices on vinegar.
It will clean the pavers too if I use it as an acid wash and get
killer down between the pavers at the same time while scrubbing.
Please post how effective it is as a weed kill. I suppose muratic
acid will work too but that is really harsh.

Once a year use an 'all season' weed killer. It kills the weeds and
prevents seed sprouting for 3-4 months.

I spray my 5-600sq foot patio in about an hour in May. For $20 --
then forget it til next year.

Jim

On Sep 28, 2:29*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:24:59 -0700 (PDT), RickH





wrote:
On Sep 26, 4:31*pm, "ROANIN" wrote:
Saw a post a while ago about making weed killer using vinegar and something
else. Cannot find the post now. Can someone repost the formula?

Thanks,

R

Can anyone say how effective this is?

It sounds perfect for "flooding" my patio pavers so it goes deep
between them without leaving a toxic residue soaking into the brick.
There is a restaurant supply here that has great prices on vinegar.
It will clean the pavers too if I use it as an acid wash and get
killer down between the pavers at the same time while scrubbing.
Please post how effective it is as a weed kill. *I suppose muratic
acid will work too but that is really harsh.

Roundup kills the ROOTS so the weeds go down and STAY down. Vinegar is
a very temporary measure.

But I dont want roundup soaked into the brick as a residue.

RickH wrote the following:
On Sep 28, 2:29 pm, wrote:

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:24:59 -0700 (PDT), RickH





wrote:

On Sep 26, 4:31 pm, "ROANIN" wrote:

Saw a post a while ago about making weed killer using vinegar and something
else. Cannot find the post now. Can someone repost the formula?

Thanks,

R

Can anyone say how effective this is?

It sounds perfect for "flooding" my patio pavers so it goes deep
between them without leaving a toxic residue soaking into the brick.
There is a restaurant supply here that has great prices on vinegar.
It will clean the pavers too if I use it as an acid wash and get
killer down between the pavers at the same time while scrubbing.
Please post how effective it is as a weed kill. I suppose muratic
acid will work too but that is really harsh.

Roundup kills the ROOTS so the weeds go down and STAY down. Vinegar is
a very temporary measure.


But I dont want roundup soaked into the brick as a residue.


Are you planning to plant some flowers or vegetables between the patio
bricks?
FWIW, I dump the muriatic acid used to clean the pool's DE filters
fingers on the patio after I close the pool for the season.
The freakin' moss and weeds still comes up between the bricks the next year.
I also spray the patio with roundup in the early spring.
I spend a lot of money trying to get grass to grow in my clay filled
lawn, but a few grains of windblown dirt on my patio is enough to
support a sprout of grass between the blocks.
Go figure!
In case you are wondering, this patio was built using more than the
appropriate underlayments. The trenches were over excavated, much to the
dismay of the contractor who had to use more gravel and sand than usual
for the contracted price.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

On Sep 28, 9:29*pm, willshak wrote:
RickH wrote the following:





On Sep 28, 2:29 pm, wrote:

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:24:59 -0700 (PDT), RickH

wrote:

On Sep 26, 4:31 pm, "ROANIN" wrote:

Saw a post a while ago about making weed killer using vinegar and something
else. Cannot find the post now. Can someone repost the formula?

Thanks,

R

Can anyone say how effective this is?

It sounds perfect for "flooding" my patio pavers so it goes deep
between them without leaving a toxic residue soaking into the brick.
There is a restaurant supply here that has great prices on vinegar.
It will clean the pavers too if I use it as an acid wash and get
killer down between the pavers at the same time while scrubbing.
Please post how effective it is as a weed kill. *I suppose muratic
acid will work too but that is really harsh.

Roundup kills the ROOTS so the weeds go down and STAY down. Vinegar is
a very temporary measure.

But I dont want roundup soaked into the brick as a residue.

Are you planning to plant some flowers or vegetables between the patio
bricks?
FWIW, I dump the muriatic acid used to clean the pool's DE filters
fingers on the patio after I close the pool for the season.
The freakin' moss and weeds still comes up between the bricks the next year.
I also spray the patio with roundup in the early spring.
I spend a lot of money trying to get grass to grow in my clay filled
lawn, but a few grains of windblown dirt on my patio is enough to
support a sprout of grass between the blocks.
Go figure!
In case you are wondering, this patio was built using more than the
appropriate underlayments. The trenches were over excavated, much to the
dismay of the contractor who had to use more gravel and sand than usual
for the contracted price.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same problem. Mine has an 18 inch bed of gravel topped by a 6 inch
bed of limestone screening topped by the pavers and pavers are tightly
butted. Weed seed still gets in there. I want to "flood" the whole
patio rather than just spray the joints so I can get killer down, but
dont want chemical hebicide imbeded into bricks. Spraying the joints
literally takes all day, I want to flood whole patio with a non-toxic
herbicide and watering can maybe once a month.

RickH wrote:

-snip-
a non-toxic herbicide

If it is non-toxic-- then how will it help anything? All the major
players have minimally toxic, with short 'toxic to animals' phases.

One hour- once a year- and be done with it.

It doesn't matter if your gravel base is 100 feet deep-- the weed
seeds come from the top.

Jim

RickH wrote:
On Sep 28, 9:29 pm, willshak wrote:
RickH wrote the following:





On Sep 28, 2:29 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:24:59 -0700 (PDT), RickH
wrote:
On Sep 26, 4:31 pm, "ROANIN" wrote:
Saw a post a while ago about making weed killer using vinegar and something
else. Cannot find the post now. Can someone repost the formula?
Thanks,
R
Can anyone say how effective this is?
It sounds perfect for "flooding" my patio pavers so it goes deep
between them without leaving a toxic residue soaking into the brick.
There is a restaurant supply here that has great prices on vinegar.
It will clean the pavers too if I use it as an acid wash and get
killer down between the pavers at the same time while scrubbing.
Please post how effective it is as a weed kill. I suppose muratic
acid will work too but that is really harsh.
Roundup kills the ROOTS so the weeds go down and STAY down. Vinegar is
a very temporary measure.
But I dont want roundup soaked into the brick as a residue.
Are you planning to plant some flowers or vegetables between the patio
bricks?
FWIW, I dump the muriatic acid used to clean the pool's DE filters
fingers on the patio after I close the pool for the season.
The freakin' moss and weeds still comes up between the bricks the next year.
I also spray the patio with roundup in the early spring.
I spend a lot of money trying to get grass to grow in my clay filled
lawn, but a few grains of windblown dirt on my patio is enough to
support a sprout of grass between the blocks.
Go figure!
In case you are wondering, this patio was built using more than the
appropriate underlayments. The trenches were over excavated, much to the
dismay of the contractor who had to use more gravel and sand than usual
for the contracted price.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same problem. Mine has an 18 inch bed of gravel topped by a 6 inch
bed of limestone screening topped by the pavers and pavers are tightly
butted. Weed seed still gets in there. I want to "flood" the whole
patio rather than just spray the joints so I can get killer down, but
dont want chemical hebicide imbeded into bricks. Spraying the joints
literally takes all day, I want to flood whole patio with a non-toxic
herbicide and watering can maybe once a month.

There is no need to flood the entire patio using Roundup...just spray
the weeds according to instructions. One use should kill all the weeds,
although tough waxy leaves may require two applications. Then, spot
treat any new weeds (or pull by hand). Existing weed seeds may continue
to germinate for a while, but once gone the patio should be easy to
maintain. If there are lawn grasses adjoining the patio and growing
between pavers, a barrier should help keep them out.

RickH wrote:

Same problem. Mine has an 18 inch bed of gravel topped by a 6 inch
bed of limestone screening topped by the pavers and pavers are tightly
butted. Weed seed still gets in there. I want to "flood" the whole
patio rather than just spray the joints so I can get killer down, but
dont want chemical hebicide imbeded into bricks. Spraying the joints
literally takes all day, I want to flood whole patio with a non-toxic
herbicide and watering can maybe once a month.

You need a two-step process:

1. Kill the existing weeds. Roundup, vinegar, propane torch, pull 'em by
hand, whatever.

2. A liberal application of a pre-emergent herbicide to kill the weeds,
spores, seeds, cuttings, tubers, and all the plant eggs remaining. You
should use this herbicide every spring and it usually lasts the whole
growing season.

In article ,
RickH wrote:
On Sep 28, 9:29*pm, willshak wrote:
...snipped...
Same problem. Mine has an 18 inch bed of gravel topped by a 6 inch
bed of limestone screening topped by the pavers and pavers are tightly
butted. Weed seed still gets in there. I want to "flood" the whole
patio rather than just spray the joints so I can get killer down, but
dont want chemical hebicide imbeded into bricks. Spraying the joints
literally takes all day, I want to flood whole patio with a non-toxic
herbicide and watering can maybe once a month.

The vinegar herbicide recipe does not call for table vinegar, but what
at least one company markets as "garden vinegar" It is 20% acetic acid.
Table vinegar is 4 or 5%. I'm not crazy about Roundup, but I wouldn't
be so sure that 20% acetic acid plus salt is more environmentally benign
than Roundup, especially in "flood" quantities.



--
There are no stupid questions, but there are lots of stupid answers.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

On Sep 29, 7:15*am, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:29:41 -0400, willshak
wrote:





RickH wrote the following:
On Sep 28, 2:29 pm, *

But I dont want roundup soaked into the brick as a residue.

Are you planning to plant some flowers or vegetables between the patio
bricks?
FWIW, I dump the muriatic acid used to clean the pool's DE filters
fingers on the patio after I close the pool for the season.
The freakin' moss and weeds still comes up between the bricks the next year.
I also spray the patio with roundup in the early spring.
I spend a lot of money trying to get grass to grow in my clay filled
lawn, but a few grains of windblown dirt on my patio is enough to
support a sprout of grass between the blocks.
Go figure!
In case you are wondering, this patio was built using more than the
appropriate underlayments. The trenches were over excavated, much to the
dismay of the contractor who had to use more gravel and sand than usual
for the contracted price.

You can plant flowers and most vegetables 48 hours after apllication
of roundup. It is designed to do its thing to existing roots and then
break down rapidly. It doesn't linger in the soil.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This is not soil, it is pavers soaking up a herbicide where we sit as
outside living space, that is waht is un-appealing. Vinegar and salt
is harmless if pavers soak that up and people walk on it barefooted.

On Sep 29, 10:54*am, RickH wrote:
On Sep 29, 7:15*am, wrote:





On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:29:41 -0400, willshak
wrote:

RickH wrote the following:
On Sep 28, 2:29 pm, *

But I dont want roundup soaked into the brick as a residue.

Are you planning to plant some flowers or vegetables between the patio
bricks?
FWIW, I dump the muriatic acid used to clean the pool's DE filters
fingers on the patio after I close the pool for the season.
The freakin' moss and weeds still comes up between the bricks the next year.
I also spray the patio with roundup in the early spring.
I spend a lot of money trying to get grass to grow in my clay filled
lawn, but a few grains of windblown dirt on my patio is enough to
support a sprout of grass between the blocks.
Go figure!
In case you are wondering, this patio was built using more than the
appropriate underlayments. The trenches were over excavated, much to the
dismay of the contractor who had to use more gravel and sand than usual
for the contracted price.

You can plant flowers and most vegetables 48 hours after apllication
of roundup. It is designed to do its thing to existing roots and then
break down rapidly. It doesn't linger in the soil.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This is not soil, it is pavers soaking up a herbicide where we sit as
outside living space, that is waht is un-appealing. *Vinegar and salt
is harmless if pavers soak that up and people walk on it barefooted.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

There is a replacement for triox that I've seen in lowes. Your
vinegar/salt is probably ok for what you are trying to do. Are your
trees all reasonably far away? I'd don't know how environmentally
friendly it is but I have also seen discussions about wiping the
pavers down with used motor oil. Apparently also leaves a nice patina.

On Sep 29, 9:54*am, RickH wrote:
On Sep 29, 7:15*am, wrote:



On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:29:41 -0400, willshak
wrote:

RickH wrote the following:
On Sep 28, 2:29 pm, *

But I dont want roundup soaked into the brick as a residue.

Are you planning to plant some flowers or vegetables between the patio
bricks?
FWIW, I dump the muriatic acid used to clean the pool's DE filters
fingers on the patio after I close the pool for the season.
The freakin' moss and weeds still comes up between the bricks the next year.
I also spray the patio with roundup in the early spring.
I spend a lot of money trying to get grass to grow in my clay filled
lawn, but a few grains of windblown dirt on my patio is enough to
support a sprout of grass between the blocks.
Go figure!
In case you are wondering, this patio was built using more than the
appropriate underlayments. The trenches were over excavated, much to the
dismay of the contractor who had to use more gravel and sand than usual
for the contracted price.

You can plant flowers and most vegetables 48 hours after apllication
of roundup. It is designed to do its thing to existing roots and then
break down rapidly. It doesn't linger in the soil.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This is not soil, it is pavers soaking up a herbicide where we sit as
outside living space, that is waht is un-appealing. *Vinegar and salt
is harmless if pavers soak that up and people walk on it barefooted.

Roundup breaks down in a very short time. There is *nothing*
dangerous about it "soaking into the pavers". Don't get that vinegar
and salt in a cut on your feet! :-/

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:03:10 -0700 (PDT), RickH
wrote:

On Sep 28, 2:29Â*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:24:59 -0700 (PDT), RickH





wrote:
On Sep 26, 4:31Â*pm, "ROANIN" wrote:
Saw a post a while ago about making weed killer using vinegar and something
else. Cannot find the post now. Can someone repost the formula?

Thanks,

R

Can anyone say how effective this is?

It sounds perfect for "flooding" my patio pavers so it goes deep
between them without leaving a toxic residue soaking into the brick.
There is a restaurant supply here that has great prices on vinegar.
It will clean the pavers too if I use it as an acid wash and get
killer down between the pavers at the same time while scrubbing.
Please post how effective it is as a weed kill. Â*I suppose muratic
acid will work too but that is really harsh.

Roundup kills the ROOTS so the weeds go down and STAY down. Vinegar is
a very temporary measure.

But I dont want roundup soaked into the brick as a residue.
In about 14 days it's all harmless salts anyway, apparently. No worse
than vinegar, and likely better than the salt and vinegar mix.

On Sep 28, 8:03*pm, RickH wrote:
On Sep 28, 2:29*pm, wrote:



On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:24:59 -0700 (PDT), RickH

wrote:
On Sep 26, 4:31*pm, "ROANIN" wrote:
Saw a post a while ago about making weed killer using vinegar and something
else. Cannot find the post now. Can someone repost the formula?

Thanks,

R

Can anyone say how effective this is?

It sounds perfect for "flooding" my patio pavers so it goes deep
between them without leaving a toxic residue soaking into the brick.
There is a restaurant supply here that has great prices on vinegar.
It will clean the pavers too if I use it as an acid wash and get
killer down between the pavers at the same time while scrubbing.
Please post how effective it is as a weed kill. *I suppose muratic
acid will work too but that is really harsh.

Roundup kills the ROOTS so the weeds go down and STAY down. Vinegar is
a very temporary measure.

But I dont want roundup soaked into the brick as a residue.

==
That Roundup residue won't hurt anything as it rapidly breaks down on
contact with soil. I'd worry more about acidic soil and salt buildup
using vinegar and salt. Using muriatic acid is also just plain dumb as
it is corrosive and poisonous.
==

On Sep 28, 11:54*pm, Roy wrote:
On Sep 28, 8:03*pm, RickH wrote:





On Sep 28, 2:29*pm, wrote:

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:24:59 -0700 (PDT), RickH

wrote:
On Sep 26, 4:31*pm, "ROANIN" wrote:
Saw a post a while ago about making weed killer using vinegar and something
else. Cannot find the post now. Can someone repost the formula?

Thanks,

R

Can anyone say how effective this is?

It sounds perfect for "flooding" my patio pavers so it goes deep
between them without leaving a toxic residue soaking into the brick.
There is a restaurant supply here that has great prices on vinegar.
It will clean the pavers too if I use it as an acid wash and get
killer down between the pavers at the same time while scrubbing.
Please post how effective it is as a weed kill. *I suppose muratic
acid will work too but that is really harsh.

Roundup kills the ROOTS so the weeds go down and STAY down. Vinegar is
a very temporary measure.

But I dont want roundup soaked into the brick as a residue.

==
That Roundup residue won't hurt anything as it rapidly breaks down on
contact with soil. I'd worry more about acidic soil and salt buildup
using vinegar and salt. Using muriatic acid is also just plain dumb as
it is corrosive and poisonous.
==- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My paver manufacturer recommends muratic for regular cleaning.

On Sep 26, 5:31*pm, "ROANIN" wrote:
Saw a post a while ago about making weed killer using vinegar and something
else. Cannot find the post now. Can someone repost the formula?

The something else is ROUNDUP.