Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid will
be a lot harder to control. What do ya`ll think?

On Sep 2, 2:14*pm, (Herb Eneva) wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid will
be a lot harder to control. * * * * * * What do ya`ll think?

==
Best tires on front.
==

Herb Eneva wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid will
be a lot harder to control. What do ya`ll think?

I think first of all you shouldn't have tires that bad that you're
concerned...

However, the logic is precisely backwards...it's much easier to control
if you have both front tires than only one--it is, after all, those that
are tied to the steering wheel.

It's also more likely to cause a rollover if a front drops and gouges
thus causing a full-bore cranking of the front wheels one direction or
t'other at speed.

Put the new ones on the front...

--

On Sep 2, 3:14*pm, (Herb Eneva) wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid will
be a lot harder to control. * * * * * * What do ya`ll think?

Other than using one for a spare and only a spare, I wouldn't!

But what the hell, I am crazy old man who enjoys life.

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:14:49 -0400, (Herb Eneva)
wrote:

Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid will
be a lot harder to control. What do ya`ll think?

Why don't you ask in an automotive group?

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:14:49 -0400, Herb Eneva wrote:

Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid will
be a lot harder to control. What do ya`ll think?

You want the best tires in the front where the steering and most of the
braking occurs and where the most weight is and if front wheel drive,
where the traction is needed.

Herb Eneva wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid will
be a lot harder to control. What do ya`ll think?

Buy a casket with lug nuts. Then they can put your tires on it
when they bury you.
If you're tires are so bad that you worry about where to put them,
they need to be REPLACED.
Take a survey of your family members. "What color casket would you like?"

On 2010-09-02, mike wrote:

Buy a casket with lug nuts. Then they can put your tires on it
when they bury you.
If you're tires are so bad that you worry about where to put them,
they need to be REPLACED.
Take a survey of your family members. "What color casket would you like?"

The correct answer!

I jes had my bad front tires replaced. The tire dealer said the tread
was already separating from the core and it was jes a matter of miles
before I lost a front tire. Replace them.

nb

On Sep 2, 4:14*pm, (Herb Eneva) wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid will
be a lot harder to control. * * * * * * What do ya`ll think?

Watch this video...some people might be surprised.

http://www.dunntire.com/Learning_Cen...ideo_new_tires

or read this:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52

or this:

http://www.goodyeartires.com/faqs/Care.html#s9

Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

On Sep 2, 7:03*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sep 2, 4:14*pm, (Herb Eneva) wrote:

Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid will
be a lot harder to control. * * * * * * What do ya`ll think?

Watch this video...some people might be surprised.

http://www.dunntire.com/Learning_Cen...ideo_new_tires

or read this:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52

or this:

http://www.goodyeartires.com/faqs/Care.html#s9

Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

"Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD
or AWD"

Allow me to rephrase that...

Answer: The tires with the deepest tread go on the rear of the vehicle
- FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

If the new tires do not have as deep a tread as the old ones then they
should go on the front.

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:31:38 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Sep 2, 7:03Â*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sep 2, 4:14Â*pm, (Herb Eneva) wrote:

Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid will
be a lot harder to control. Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* What do ya`ll think?

Watch this video...some people might be surprised.

http://www.dunntire.com/Learning_Cen...ideo_new_tires

or read this:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52

or this:

http://www.goodyeartires.com/faqs/Care.html#s9

Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

"Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD
or AWD"

Allow me to rephrase that...

Answer: The tires with the deepest tread go on the rear of the vehicle
- FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

If the new tires do not have as deep a tread as the old ones then they
should go on the front.
That was true with rear wheel drive and no ABS
As far as hydroplaning, yes it can be an issue with the over-width
tires on todays cars if they are bald. But driving in the rain in not
the majority of your driving - and hydroplaning conditions occur only
a few times a year for a few minutes at a time. A sensible driver just
slows down under those conditions. The REST of the time, better
traction on the front is more advantageous.

The video showing the hydroplaning shows drivers driving WAY TOO FAST
FOR CONDITIONS.

On Sep 2, 6:03*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sep 2, 4:14*pm, (Herb Eneva) wrote:

Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid will
be a lot harder to control. * * * * * * What do ya`ll think?

Watch this video...some people might be surprised.

http://www.dunntire.com/Learning_Cen...ideo_new_tires

or read this:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52

or this:

http://www.goodyeartires.com/faqs/Care.html#s9

Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

Note that all the recommendations mentioned are based on hydroplaning
on wet roads. Blowouts and flats at highway speed are a entirely
different case. So the decision should be based on your expected
conditions. Would drivers in the SW really be concerned with
hydroplaning more than tire heat?

On Sep 2, 7:39*pm, Red wrote:
On Sep 2, 6:03*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:



On Sep 2, 4:14*pm, (Herb Eneva) wrote:

Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid will
be a lot harder to control. * * * * * * What do ya`ll think?

Watch this video...some people might be surprised.

http://www.dunntire.com/Learning_Cen...ideo_new_tires

or read this:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52

or this:

http://www.goodyeartires.com/faqs/Care.html#s9

Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

Note that all the recommendations mentioned are based on hydroplaning
on wet roads. *Blowouts and flats at highway speed are a entirely
different case. So the decision should be based on your expected
conditions. *Would drivers in the SW really be concerned with
hydroplaning more than tire heat?

Yes I noticed that, but there are also many other sites that say the
same thing about rear placement of the best tires and don't mention
hydroplaning. Braking traction and skidding, even in good conditions,
are stated as the reasons.

See my response to HeyBub about weight transfer. I ain't making this
up, I'm just keeping up with the times.

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:39:52 -0700 (PDT), Red
wrote:

Would drivers in the SW really be concerned with
hydroplaning more than tire heat?

Only when it snows in Las Vegas.

People here cannot drive when it snows eight inches.

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:53:35 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:39:52 -0700 (PDT), Red
wrote:

Would drivers in the SW really be concerned with
hydroplaning more than tire heat?

Only when it snows in Las Vegas.

People here cannot drive when it snows eight inches.

They canceled work here on the mere prediction of snow.

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:00:17 -0500, "
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:53:35 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:39:52 -0700 (PDT), Red
wrote:

Would drivers in the SW really be concerned with
hydroplaning more than tire heat?

Only when it snows in Las Vegas.

People here cannot drive when it snows eight inches.

They canceled work here on the mere prediction of snow.
What's snow got to do with hydroplaning??????

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:03:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Sep 2, 4:14Â*pm, (Herb Eneva) wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid will
be a lot harder to control. Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* What do ya`ll think?

Watch this video...some people might be surprised.

http://www.dunntire.com/Learning_Cen...ideo_new_tires

or read this:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52

or this:

http://www.goodyeartires.com/faqs/Care.html#s9

Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

Having driven competetively I'd have to dissagree. But the BEST is to
have all 4 tires up to snuff.

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:47:56 -0400, clare wrote:

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:03:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Sep 2, 4:14Â*pm, (Herb Eneva) wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid
will be a lot harder to control. Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* What do ya`ll think?

Watch this video...some people might be surprised.

http://www.dunntire.com/Learning_Cen...ideo_new_tires

or read this:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52

or this:

http://www.goodyeartires.com/faqs/Care.html#s9

Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

Having driven competetively I'd have to dissagree.

Yes, I think it very much depends on the vehicle (FWD or RWD, manual or
slushbox, weight distribution etc.) and the road conditions. A couple of
my RWD cars showed a lot of natural oversteer, but were quite
controllable whenever the back end did decide to get out of line - for
those I think I would have put as much grip as I could get on the front
rather than the back.

But the BEST is to have all 4 tires up to snuff.

Or five if you're carrying a spare

cheers

Jules

Jules Richardson wrote:

But the BEST is to have all 4 tires up to snuff.

Or five if you're carrying a spare


Driving home at night a couple of weeks ago, I heard a slight thump.

Looking in the rear view mirror I saw a black lump under the street light in
the middle of my lane. Curious, and not being in a hurry, I did a U-turn to
investigate.

IT WAS MY SPARE TIRE! which has been stored under the bed of my pickup.

I retrieved the tire and sorted through the detritus on the roadway
capturing anything that looked like it may be related.

Turns out, the cable holding the tire in place broke.

But, following your advice and not being curious and not just moseying
along, I could have lost a GOOD tire.

On Sep 3, 1:43*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Jules Richardson wrote:

*But the BEST is to have all 4 tires up to snuff.

Or five if you're carrying a spare

Driving home at night a couple of weeks ago, I heard a slight thump.

Looking in the rear view mirror I saw a black lump under the street light in
the middle of my lane. Curious, and not being in a hurry, I did a U-turn to
investigate.

IT WAS MY SPARE TIRE! which has been stored under the bed of my pickup.

I retrieved the tire and sorted through the detritus on the roadway
capturing anything that looked like it may be related.

Turns out, the cable holding the tire in place broke.

But, following your advice and not being curious and not just moseying
along, I could have lost a GOOD tire.

The spare mounting hardware is so rusted on my truck it'll never come
off. A garage tried a few weeks ago.

On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 18:05:21 +0000 (UTC), Jules Richardson
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:47:56 -0400, clare wrote:

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:03:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Sep 2, 4:14Â*pm, (Herb Eneva) wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid
will be a lot harder to control. Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* What do ya`ll think?

Watch this video...some people might be surprised.

http://www.dunntire.com/Learning_Cen...ideo_new_tires

or read this:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52

or this:

http://www.goodyeartires.com/faqs/Care.html#s9

Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

Having driven competetively I'd have to dissagree.

Yes, I think it very much depends on the vehicle (FWD or RWD, manual or
slushbox, weight distribution etc.) and the road conditions. A couple of
my RWD cars showed a lot of natural oversteer, but were quite
controllable whenever the back end did decide to get out of line - for
those I think I would have put as much grip as I could get on the front
rather than the back.

But the BEST is to have all 4 tires up to snuff.

Or five if you're carrying a spare

cheers

Jules
Last time I used my spare was sometime back before 1975.

On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:19:13 -0400, clare wrote:
But the BEST is to have all 4 tires up to snuff.

Or five if you're carrying a spare

cheers

Jules
Last time I used my spare was sometime back before 1975.

I've needed a couple in the last decade - one on a 1970s car due to
internal corrosion of the alloy wheels (I was staying at a friend's house
and came out the next morning to find I had a flat - the garage fixed it
by tubing it) and once on a truck in the middle of the Australian outback
(changing a tire in 140 degree heat is really not fun!)

cheers

Jules

In article
,
DerbyDad03 wrote:

Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

I actually had a tire shop refuse to put two new tires on the front. I
went somewhere else. Not all choices are made based on the same criteria.

Back to the original (off-topic) subject:

I'd rather lose traction in the rear of the car, and have some hope of
steering, rather than lose traction in front and have no control over
steering.

It's all well and good to say that if you hydroplane in the front
you'll probably continue straight, except the roads around here aren't
straight. Straight into a guardrail isn't a preferred alternative.

Another reason to put the newer tires in front-- if you put the old
tires in front they'll wear out faster meaning even less tread in
front after a few months. Plus the aforementioned preference for a
rear flat vs. a front flat.

Copyright 2010 by Shaun. All rights reserved.

On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 09:57:12 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In article
,
DerbyDad03 wrote:

Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

I actually had a tire shop refuse to put two new tires on the front. I
went somewhere else. Not all choices are made based on the same criteria.

I've had a tire shop (Costco) refuse to sell me two tires. They insisted that
they had to do all four because they didn't have the exact size of the two
good tires.

zzzzzzzzzz wrote the following:
On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 09:57:12 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:


In article
,
DerbyDad03 wrote:


Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

I actually had a tire shop refuse to put two new tires on the front. I
went somewhere else. Not all choices are made based on the same criteria.


I've had a tire shop (Costco) refuse to sell me two tires. They insisted that
they had to do all four because they didn't have the exact size of the two
good tires.

Sam's Club has a similar policy.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
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zzzzzzzzzz wrote the following:
On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 09:57:12 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:


In article
,
DerbyDad03 wrote:


Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

I actually had a tire shop refuse to put two new tires on the front. I
went somewhere else. Not all choices are made based on the same
criteria.


I've had a tire shop (Costco) refuse to sell me two tires. They insisted
that
they had to do all four because they didn't have the exact size of the
two
good tires.

Sam's Club has a similar policy.


Probably a liability thing

I heard the same thing at walmart, the last time I was there. Refusing
to put the new tires on front.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"Smitty Two" wrote in message
news In article
,
DerbyDad03 wrote:

Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD or
AWD

I actually had a tire shop refuse to put two new tires on the front. I
went somewhere else. Not all choices are made based on the same
criteria.

Smitty Two wrote:
In article
,
wrote:

Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

I actually had a tire shop refuse to put two new tires on the front. I
went somewhere else. Not all choices are made based on the same criteria.

So then by the same logic would this tire shop put the snow tires for a
FWD on the rear? This make no sense considering the front has 100% of
the forward moment of the car via traction with the ground and a
majority of the stopping traction.

I would always put the best tires on the front of a FWD or AWD.

Now having said that I alway put 4 snow tires on my RWD Mustang for the
winter and never got stuck in the 18 years I owned it!

On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:52:42 -0700, Ned Flanders
wrote:

Smitty Two wrote:
In article
,
wrote:

Answer: New tires go on the rear of the vehicle - FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD

I actually had a tire shop refuse to put two new tires on the front. I
went somewhere else. Not all choices are made based on the same criteria.

So then by the same logic would this tire shop put the snow tires for a
FWD on the rear? This make no sense considering the front has 100% of
the forward moment of the car via traction with the ground and a
majority of the stopping traction.

I would always put the best tires on the front of a FWD or AWD.

Now having said that I alway put 4 snow tires on my RWD Mustang for the
winter and never got stuck in the 18 years I owned it!


Many tire shops will NOT install 2 snow tires on a front drive car.
In some areas it is illegal.
And I would never put only 2 snows on any front drive car.
I used to put snows on the rear only of my old rear drive vehicles -
but 4 work much better.

Herb Eneva wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid
will be a lot harder to control. What do ya`ll think?

Best tires on the front to help with emergency braking.

In emergency braking, weight shifts to the front, providing increased
frictional force.

On Sep 2, 7:32*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Herb Eneva wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid
will be a lot harder to control. * * * * * * What do ya`ll think?

Best tires on the front to help with emergency braking.

In emergency braking, weight shifts to the front, providing increased
frictional force.

Think about what you just said.

As the extra weight shifts to the front, the weight will increase the
traction. Therefore, the increased traction compensates for the less
tread. I can't shift weight to the rear, so the rear tires have more
chance of skidding if they have less tread.

Besides, most drivers can control a skidding front end better than a
skidding rear end. Therefore it makes more sense to do our best to
keep the rear end from skidding.

Let's keep in mind that we're not talking bald tires vs. brand new. If
anyone is driving on unsafe tires, then all bets are off.

Look, it's not just me making this argument. Please find me a modern,
credible site that says the best tires go on the front. I know that
that used to be the conventional thinking and even I was surprised to
see a sign stating that in a tire shop a few months ago.

Times - and wisdom - change.

On Sep 2, 6:17*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sep 2, 7:32*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:

Herb Eneva wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid
will be a lot harder to control. * * * * * * What do ya`ll think?

Best tires on the front to help with emergency braking.

In emergency braking, weight shifts to the front, providing increased
frictional force.

Think about what you just said.

As the extra weight shifts to the front, the weight will increase the
traction. Therefore, the increased traction compensates for the less
tread. I can't shift weight to the rear, so the rear tires have more
chance of skidding if they have less tread.

Besides, most drivers can control a skidding front end better than a
skidding rear end. Therefore it makes more sense to do our best to
keep the rear end from skidding.

Let's keep in mind that we're not talking bald tires vs. brand new. If
anyone is driving on unsafe tires, then all bets are off.

Look, it's not just me making this argument. Please find me a modern,
credible site that says the best tires go on the front. I know that
that used to be the conventional thinking and even I was surprised to
see a sign stating that in a tire shop a few months ago.

Times - and wisdom - change.

==
Exactly so...we were taught that the best tread should be on the front
for winter driving if we couldn't afford four new tires...now we are
told otherwise and the tire salesman say get ALL four winter tires to
be safe.
Since when most cars were rear drive and we were taught how to drive,
things have changed. My present vehicle has front wheel drive and it
took a while to get used to this.
==
==

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 17:44:06 -0700 (PDT), Roy wrote:

On Sep 2, 6:17*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sep 2, 7:32*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:

Herb Eneva wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid
will be a lot harder to control. * * * * * * What do ya`ll think?

Best tires on the front to help with emergency braking.

In emergency braking, weight shifts to the front, providing increased
frictional force.

Think about what you just said.

As the extra weight shifts to the front, the weight will increase the
traction. Therefore, the increased traction compensates for the less
tread. I can't shift weight to the rear, so the rear tires have more
chance of skidding if they have less tread.

Besides, most drivers can control a skidding front end better than a
skidding rear end. Therefore it makes more sense to do our best to
keep the rear end from skidding.

Let's keep in mind that we're not talking bald tires vs. brand new. If
anyone is driving on unsafe tires, then all bets are off.

Look, it's not just me making this argument. Please find me a modern,
credible site that says the best tires go on the front. I know that
that used to be the conventional thinking and even I was surprised to
see a sign stating that in a tire shop a few months ago.

Times - and wisdom - change.

==
Exactly so...we were taught that the best tread should be on the front
for winter driving if we couldn't afford four new tires...now we are
told otherwise and the tire salesman say get ALL four winter tires to
be safe.

Of course they wouldn't have any other motivation to sell four tires rather
than two, right? Costco wouldn't sell two snow tires, some years back. All
tires had to be matched. I let my membership lapse shortly after.

Since when most cars were rear drive and we were taught how to drive,
things have changed. My present vehicle has front wheel drive and it
took a while to get used to this.

FWD is quite different.

On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:47:03 -0500, "
wrote:

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 17:44:06 -0700 (PDT), Roy wrote:

On Sep 2, 6:17Â*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sep 2, 7:32Â*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:

Herb Eneva wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid
will be a lot harder to control. Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* What do ya`ll think?

Best tires on the front to help with emergency braking.

In emergency braking, weight shifts to the front, providing increased
frictional force.

Think about what you just said.

As the extra weight shifts to the front, the weight will increase the
traction. Therefore, the increased traction compensates for the less
tread. I can't shift weight to the rear, so the rear tires have more
chance of skidding if they have less tread.

Besides, most drivers can control a skidding front end better than a
skidding rear end. Therefore it makes more sense to do our best to
keep the rear end from skidding.

Let's keep in mind that we're not talking bald tires vs. brand new. If
anyone is driving on unsafe tires, then all bets are off.

Look, it's not just me making this argument. Please find me a modern,
credible site that says the best tires go on the front. I know that
that used to be the conventional thinking and even I was surprised to
see a sign stating that in a tire shop a few months ago.

Times - and wisdom - change.

==
Exactly so...we were taught that the best tread should be on the front
for winter driving if we couldn't afford four new tires...now we are
told otherwise and the tire salesman say get ALL four winter tires to
be safe.

Of course they wouldn't have any other motivation to sell four tires rather
than two, right? Costco wouldn't sell two snow tires, some years back. All
tires had to be matched. I let my membership lapse shortly after.

Since when most cars were rear drive and we were taught how to drive,
things have changed. My present vehicle has front wheel drive and it
took a while to get used to this.

FWD is quite different.
I've been driving FWD since about 1969 (a few RWD thrown in for good
measure, including rear engine, as well as 4wd - including rallying
FWD for a few years.

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sep 2, 7:32 pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Herb Eneva wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front.
If you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the
problem is with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the
rear the skid will be a lot harder to control. What do ya`ll think?

Best tires on the front to help with emergency braking.

In emergency braking, weight shifts to the front, providing increased
frictional force.

Think about what you just said.

As the extra weight shifts to the front, the weight will increase the
traction. Therefore, the increased traction compensates for the less
tread. I can't shift weight to the rear, so the rear tires have more
chance of skidding if they have less tread.

I stand corrected. Michelin says the better tires go on the back.

Bottom of the page - with video:
http://www.michelinman.com/tire-care...ent-questions/

In article ,
HeyBub wrote:
Herb Eneva wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid
will be a lot harder to control. What do ya`ll think?

Best tires on the front to help with emergency braking.

In emergency braking, weight shifts to the front, providing increased
frictional force.



Actually, an evenly worn tire that still has adequate tread often has
better traction than a brand new tire.

--
Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

On 9/3/2010 5:17 AM, Larry W wrote:
In ,
wrote:
Herb Eneva wrote:
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid
will be a lot harder to control. What do ya`ll think?

Best tires on the front to help with emergency braking.

In emergency braking, weight shifts to the front, providing increased
frictional force.



Actually, an evenly worn tire that still has adequate tread often has
better traction than a brand new tire.

Yes that is true, on a dry road with no possibility of hydroplaning.

"Herb Eneva" wrote in message
...
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid will
be a lot harder to control. What do ya`ll think?


Bad tires go to the recycling place.

Best tires go on the back,
Good or better tires on the front.

I see many answer to put the good tires on the front. That was the common
method for many years, but now it is proved that the better tires should go
on the rear. I cannot recall where I saw it, but a web site has a video
showing why and it does make sense.

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 19:55:44 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:


"Herb Eneva" wrote in message
...
Where should you put your worst tires? I say put them on the front. If
you have a tire problem you can control a skid best if the problem is
with the tire on the front. If the problem is on the rear the skid will
be a lot harder to control. What do ya`ll think?


Bad tires go to the recycling place.

Best tires go on the back,
Good or better tires on the front.

I see many answer to put the good tires on the front. That was the common
method for many years, but now it is proved that the better tires should go
on the rear. I cannot recall where I saw it, but a web site has a video
showing why and it does make sense.

That's what I would think, too. The back end had better stay back there.
OTOH, a blowout in the front can ruin your day, too. Modern tires don't tend
to self-destruct that way, though.