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You did't look very hard to find the truth, did you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babri_Mosque

"History
Hindu account
When the Muslim emperor Babur came down from Ferghana in 1527, he
defeated the Hindu King of Chittodgad, Rana Sangrama Singh at Sikri,
using cannon and artillery. After this victory, Babur took over the
region, leaving his general, Mir Baqi, in charge as viceroy.

Mir Baqi allegedly destroyed the temple at Ayodhya, built by the
Hindus to commemorate Rama's birthplace, and built the Babri Masjid,
naming it after Emperor Babur.[9] Although there is no reference to
the new mosque in Babur's diary, the Baburnama, the pages of the
relevant period are missing in the diary. The contemporary Tarikh-i-
Babari records that Babur's troops "demolished many Hindu temples at
Chanderi"[10]


Must it include the word "victory" to get the point across?



Ah, you may have overlooked Hagia Sophia Church and Cathedral in
Constantinople, built by the widow of Constantine, the Emperor who converted
Rome to Christianity. Constructed in A.D. 360, it was converted to a mosque
in 1453 when the Ottoman Turks under Mehmed II, after a two-month siege,
conquered the city, looting what they could, killing the women, and raping
the buffalo. Such was the end of the Byzantium Empire.

In 1934 the building was converted to a museum.

Interestingly (to bring this back to home repair) the corridors and indeed
every flat surface in the church were covered with frescos. The Muslims,
harkening to the admonition to not depict any living thing, covered all
these paintings with plaster. Today, as a museum, about 10% of the plaster
has been removed so visitors can view the 4th and 5th century paintings that
decorate the building.

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If you read the link I gave you to the history of the Fethiye mosque
in Turkey, they converted a church into a mosque and named it in
memory of their conquest. Isn't that enough? Must they have
called it "Victory mosque xyz?

That isn't what happened. They captured some land. The converted the
church to a mosque. And they named it after a couple *other*
conquests that were hundreds of miles away. [4-500 years ago, BTW]

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The reason I am focused on the Koran as a source is because you folks
keep saying it is Islamic Law that says they build victory mosques---
yet no one can cite the law.

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I never said any such thing. Nor have I heard anyone else citing
Isalmic law as talking about victory mosques.

Here's Dobony on this group-
Message-ID:
I've heard the same screed elsewhere from the 'usual suspects'.

"It is still a major victory for the terrorist as a mosque at or near
the site is a symbol of destroying the infidel, per Islamic law."

Your argument is like
arguing that Christians don't routinely put up Christmas trees in Dec
and anyone that claims they do is wrong because there is no specific
mention of Christmas trees in the bible.

No-- What I think *you* are saying is that every time the Christians
move into an area and erect a church- it is a victory church. Churches
and Mosques serve congregations. We can build 'em where we want
'em in this county. whether it is Murfreesboro TN, or Park Place in
NY.

We're never going to agree-- so I'm moving on. I may weigh in on
occasion if I see egregious errors in fact- but I think you and I have
both made the points we wanted to make. Let us now go fix something
around our homes.

Jim

ktos wrote in news:4c75ada7$0$5991$c3e8da3
@news.astraweb.com:

**** those *mosks* and their dirty greasy members.


That's what they said about the Greeks, Italians, Irish and Jews too.

--
Best regards
Han
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