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WD-40 is more than up to this challenge.

Totally agree, but you won't convince SteveB of that. He believes WD-40
is an adhesive.


no,it's just not worthwhile to use. and it does gum up over time.

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I doubt you'll convince SmittyTwo of that. His mind seems to be made up.
And you may not have any other opinion than his.

But, I do agree. WD40 is for temporary lubrication, cleaning, and other
uses, but it does gum up over time, or is just a sand magnet.

Steve




ACTUALLY, it's not a lubricant at all. It's a water displacer.

And it is certainly not a penetrating oil.

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Well, I know that and YOU know that but .........

I got a thing a while back about 99 uses for WD 40. Some of them were quite
unique, and I'd like to find it again and print it. One of the things was
wasp bites. If I get any this summer, I'll be trying it. I got stung one
day last summer by five of the lovely little creatures. All at once. Ow!

My BIL told me a story of how he used it at banks he did service work at to
"rejuvenate" the granite tops. He saw that the lady was watching him,
trying to find out the secret. She asked him what it was, and he just told
her, "Oh, you have to have a federal license to buy this particular stuff."
Made some nice bucks just with some liquid WD 40 and a terrycloth towel.

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Kerosene has always been a tried and true wasp sting remedy. That is
why wd40 works in that area. That is all it basically is.

Another thing that will remove the pain immediately is clorox. Just a
dab on your finger touched to the sting and you're good.

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Kerosene has always been a tried and true wasp sting remedy. That is
why wd40 works in that area. That is all it basically is.


That old nonsense again. That simply isn't true. I posted a link to the MSDS
for WD40 earlier in this thread; go read it. It shows clearly that WD40 is
*not* "basically" just kerosense.
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On 7/18/2010 6:45 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
In articlewIidnWuMQ8fiSt_RnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@giganews. com, Steve wrote:

Kerosene has always been a tried and true wasp sting remedy. That is
why wd40 works in that area. That is all it basically is.


That old nonsense again. That simply isn't true. I posted a link to the MSDS
for WD40 earlier in this thread; go read it. It shows clearly that WD40 is
*not* "basically" just kerosense.


Doug, i've always trusted and looked forward to your responses on
electrical questions. And will continue to do so. But on this topic,
you're off base. Sorry.

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On 7/18/2010 6:45 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
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wrote:

Kerosene has always been a tried and true wasp sting remedy. That is
why wd40 works in that area. That is all it basically is.


That old nonsense again. That simply isn't true. I posted a link to the MSDS
for WD40 earlier in this thread; go read it. It shows clearly that WD40 is
*not* "basically" just kerosense.


Doug, i've always trusted and looked forward to your responses on
electrical questions. And will continue to do so. But on this topic,
you're off base. Sorry.


No, Steve, I'm not. You don't know what's in WD-40. Go read the MSDS and find
out. Tell us what's there.

Hint: it's not kerosene.
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In article , Steve
Barker wrote:
On 7/18/2010 6:45 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
In articlewIidnWuMQ8fiSt_RnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@giganews. com, Steve
wrote:

Kerosene has always been a tried and true wasp sting remedy. That
is why wd40 works in that area. That is all it basically is.

That old nonsense again. That simply isn't true. I posted a link to
the MSDS for WD40 earlier in this thread; go read it. It shows
clearly that WD40 is *not* "basically" just kerosense.

Doug, i've always trusted and looked forward to your responses on
electrical questions. And will continue to do so. But on this topic,
you're off base. Sorry.


No, Steve, I'm not. You don't know what's in WD-40. Go read the MSDS
and find out. Tell us what's there.

Hint: it's not kerosene.


"aliphatic hydrocarbon";CAS 64742-47-8: ~50% of WD-40.
Kerosene is about 80% aliphatic hydrocarbons.


"Aliphatic hydrocarbons" is an enormous class of compounds. Just because two
things contain aliphatic hydrocarbons does not in any way imply that they are
even remotely similar, let alone identical.

I think "deodorized kerosene" is parafin-removed kerosene.

I Googled "CAS 64742-47-8",and it comes up "deodorized KEROSENE".
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ipcsneng/neng1379.html

In conclusion,WD-40 is about 50% KEROSENE,according to it's own MSDS.


Right, and, as should be obvious to anyone who passed third-grade math, that
also means it's about 50% *not* kerosene -- which obviously means that it's
NOT the same thing as kerosene.

Suppose I offer you a drink. It's half beer and half ****. Will you believe me
if I tell you it's beer? After all, it *is* 50% beer, right?


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(Doug Miller) wrote in
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In article , Jim Yanik
wrote:
(Doug Miller) wrote in
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In article , Steve
Barker wrote:
On 7/18/2010 6:45 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
In articlewIidnWuMQ8fiSt_RnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@giganews. com, Steve
wrote:

Kerosene has always been a tried and true wasp sting remedy.
That is why wd40 works in that area. That is all it basically
is.

That old nonsense again. That simply isn't true. I posted a link
to the MSDS for WD40 earlier in this thread; go read it. It shows
clearly that WD40 is *not* "basically" just kerosense.


actually,it does,if you bother to check.


Doug, i've always trusted and looked forward to your responses on
electrical questions. And will continue to do so. But on this
topic, you're off base. Sorry.

No, Steve, I'm not. You don't know what's in WD-40. Go read the MSDS
and find out. Tell us what's there.

Hint: it's not kerosene.


"aliphatic hydrocarbon";CAS 64742-47-8: ~50% of WD-40.
Kerosene is about 80% aliphatic hydrocarbons.


"Aliphatic hydrocarbons" is an enormous class of compounds. Just
because two things contain aliphatic hydrocarbons does not in any way
imply that they are even remotely similar, let alone identical.


Yes,so I checked further.
and found KEROSENE,which YOU claimed was NOT in WD-40.

I think "deodorized kerosene" is parafin-removed kerosene.

I Googled "CAS 64742-47-8",and it comes up "deodorized KEROSENE".
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ipcsneng/neng1379.html

In conclusion,WD-40 is about 50% KEROSENE,according to it's own MSDS.


Right, and, as should be obvious to anyone who passed third-grade
math, that also means it's about 50% *not* kerosene -- which obviously
means that it's NOT the same thing as kerosene.


not "exactly",but as the OP said,"basically".

Suppose I offer you a drink. It's half beer and half ****. Will you
believe me if I tell you it's beer? After all, it *is* 50% beer,
right?




Ah,you won't admit you were wrong. So you weasel.
YOU said;
"No, Steve, I'm not. You don't know what's in WD-40. Go read the MSDS
and find out. Tell us what's there.
Hint: it's not kerosene."

Except the MSDS -DOES- say it has 50% kerosene in it.
There IS kerosene in there. that proves your statement wrong.

and your analogy is lacking. WD-40 is half kerosene,and half other
petroleum oils. IOW,"basically kerosene".
A better analogy would be half beer and half ale,but it's still "beer".
Or that denatured alcohol is STILL "alcohol",despite it having other things
in there.

Man up,Doug.

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In article , Jim Yanik wrote:
(Doug Miller) wrote in
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In article , Jim Yanik
wrote:
(Doug Miller) wrote in
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In article , Steve
Barker wrote:
On 7/18/2010 6:45 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
In articlewIidnWuMQ8fiSt_RnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@giganews. com, Steve
wrote:

Kerosene has always been a tried and true wasp sting remedy.
That is why wd40 works in that area. That is all it basically
is.

That old nonsense again. That simply isn't true. I posted a link
to the MSDS for WD40 earlier in this thread; go read it. It shows
clearly that WD40 is *not* "basically" just kerosense.


actually,it does,if you bother to check.


Actually, it does *not*, if you bother to check *and* read *and* understand
what it says.

Doug, i've always trusted and looked forward to your responses on
electrical questions. And will continue to do so. But on this
topic, you're off base. Sorry.

No, Steve, I'm not. You don't know what's in WD-40. Go read the MSDS
and find out. Tell us what's there.

Hint: it's not kerosene.


"aliphatic hydrocarbon";CAS 64742-47-8: ~50% of WD-40.
Kerosene is about 80% aliphatic hydrocarbons.


"Aliphatic hydrocarbons" is an enormous class of compounds. Just
because two things contain aliphatic hydrocarbons does not in any way
imply that they are even remotely similar, let alone identical.


Yes,so I checked further.
and found KEROSENE,which YOU claimed was NOT in WD-40.


Wrong. I said WD-40 and kerosene are not the same thing.

They're not. The MSDS shows that clearly.

I think "deodorized kerosene" is parafin-removed kerosene.

I Googled "CAS 64742-47-8",and it comes up "deodorized KEROSENE".
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ipcsneng/neng1379.html

In conclusion,WD-40 is about 50% KEROSENE,according to it's own MSDS.


Right, and, as should be obvious to anyone who passed third-grade
math, that also means it's about 50% *not* kerosene -- which obviously
means that it's NOT the same thing as kerosene.


not "exactly",but as the OP said,"basically".


Half kerosene and half not-kerosene is not "basically kerosene".

Suppose I offer you a drink. It's half beer and half ****. Will you
believe me if I tell you it's beer? After all, it *is* 50% beer,
right?



Ah,you won't admit you were wrong. So you weasel.
YOU said;
"No, Steve, I'm not. You don't know what's in WD-40. Go read the MSDS
and find out. Tell us what's there.
Hint: it's not kerosene."


Right: WD-40 *is not* kerosene.

Except the MSDS -DOES- say it has 50% kerosene in it.
There IS kerosene in there. that proves your statement wrong.


No, I said WD-40 is not kerosene. Just like a glass that's half beer and half
**** isn't beer.

and your analogy is lacking. WD-40 is half kerosene,and half other
petroleum oils. IOW,"basically kerosene".


By the same "reasoning", a glass of half beer and half **** is "basically
beer".

Remind me never to go drinking with you.
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(Doug Miller) wrote in
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In article , Jim Yanik
wrote:
(Doug Miller) wrote in
:

In article , Jim
Yanik wrote:
(Doug Miller) wrote in
:

In article , Steve
Barker wrote:
On 7/18/2010 6:45 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
In articlewIidnWuMQ8fiSt_RnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@giganews. com, Steve
wrote:

Kerosene has always been a tried and true wasp sting remedy.
That is why wd40 works in that area. That is all it basically
is.

That old nonsense again. That simply isn't true. I posted a link
to the MSDS for WD40 earlier in this thread; go read it. It
shows clearly that WD40 is *not* "basically" just kerosense.


actually,it does,if you bother to check.


Actually, it does *not*, if you bother to check *and* read *and*
understand what it says.

Doug, i've always trusted and looked forward to your responses on
electrical questions. And will continue to do so. But on this
topic, you're off base. Sorry.

No, Steve, I'm not. You don't know what's in WD-40. Go read the
MSDS and find out. Tell us what's there.

Hint: it's not kerosene.


"aliphatic hydrocarbon";CAS 64742-47-8: ~50% of WD-40.
Kerosene is about 80% aliphatic hydrocarbons.

"Aliphatic hydrocarbons" is an enormous class of compounds. Just
because two things contain aliphatic hydrocarbons does not in any
way imply that they are even remotely similar, let alone identical.


Yes,so I checked further.
and found KEROSENE,which YOU claimed was NOT in WD-40.


Wrong. I said WD-40 and kerosene are not the same thing.


No,YOU are being DISHONEST;
your words;"tell us what's there.Hint:its not kerosene".
You words are right here in this post,for everyone to read.
No weaseling can get you out of that.


They're not. The MSDS shows that clearly.

I think "deodorized kerosene" is parafin-removed kerosene.

I Googled "CAS 64742-47-8",and it comes up "deodorized KEROSENE".
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ipcsneng/neng1379.html

In conclusion,WD-40 is about 50% KEROSENE,according to it's own
MSDS.

Right, and, as should be obvious to anyone who passed third-grade
math, that also means it's about 50% *not* kerosene -- which
obviously means that it's NOT the same thing as kerosene.


not "exactly",but as the OP said,"basically".


Half kerosene and half not-kerosene is not "basically kerosene".


Yeah,it is.

Suppose I offer you a drink. It's half beer and half ****. Will you
believe me if I tell you it's beer? After all, it *is* 50% beer,
right?



Ah,you won't admit you were wrong. So you weasel.
YOU said;
"No, Steve, I'm not. You don't know what's in WD-40. Go read the MSDS
and find out. Tell us what's there.
Hint: it's not kerosene."


Right: WD-40 *is not* kerosene.


again,wrong;
what's there IS kerosene,along with some other stuff.

Except the MSDS -DOES- say it has 50% kerosene in it.
There IS kerosene in there. that proves your statement wrong.


No, I said WD-40 is not kerosene. Just like a glass that's half beer
and half **** isn't beer.

and your analogy is lacking. WD-40 is half kerosene,and half other
petroleum oils. IOW,"basically kerosene".


By the same "reasoning", a glass of half beer and half **** is
"basically beer".

Remind me never to go drinking with you.


I would not drink with anyone so dishonest.
You even edited out part of my post about your analogy being poor.

here it is again;
"Except the MSDS -DOES- say it has 50% kerosene in it.
There IS kerosene in there. that proves your statement wrong.

and your analogy is lacking. WD-40 is half kerosene,and half other
petroleum oils. IOW,"basically kerosene".
A better analogy would be half beer and half ale,but it's still "beer".
Or that denatured alcohol is STILL "alcohol",despite it having other things
in there."



any credibility you had is gone.

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(Doug Miller) wrote in
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In article , Jim Yanik
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(Doug Miller) wrote in
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In article , Jim
Yanik wrote:
(Doug Miller) wrote in
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In article , Steve
Barker wrote:
On 7/18/2010 6:45 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
In articlewIidnWuMQ8fiSt_RnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@giganews. com, Steve
wrote:

Kerosene has always been a tried and true wasp sting remedy.
That is why wd40 works in that area. That is all it basically
is.

That old nonsense again. That simply isn't true. I posted a link
to the MSDS for WD40 earlier in this thread; go read it. It
shows clearly that WD40 is *not* "basically" just kerosense.

actually,it does,if you bother to check.


Actually, it does *not*, if you bother to check *and* read *and*
understand what it says.

Doug, i've always trusted and looked forward to your responses on
electrical questions. And will continue to do so. But on this
topic, you're off base. Sorry.

No, Steve, I'm not. You don't know what's in WD-40. Go read the
MSDS and find out. Tell us what's there.

Hint: it's not kerosene.


"aliphatic hydrocarbon";CAS 64742-47-8: ~50% of WD-40.
Kerosene is about 80% aliphatic hydrocarbons.

"Aliphatic hydrocarbons" is an enormous class of compounds. Just
because two things contain aliphatic hydrocarbons does not in any
way imply that they are even remotely similar, let alone identical.

Yes,so I checked further.
and found KEROSENE,which YOU claimed was NOT in WD-40.


Wrong. I said WD-40 and kerosene are not the same thing.


No,YOU are being DISHONEST;
your words;"tell us what's there.Hint:its not kerosene".


Right. WD-40 is not kerosene.

You words are right here in this post,for everyone to read.


Yes, they are. "It's not kerosene." WD-40 is not kerosene.

No weaseling can get you out of that.


Learn to read, Jimmy.


They're not. The MSDS shows that clearly.

I think "deodorized kerosene" is parafin-removed kerosene.

I Googled "CAS 64742-47-8",and it comes up "deodorized KEROSENE".
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ipcsneng/neng1379.html

In conclusion,WD-40 is about 50% KEROSENE,according to it's own
MSDS.

Right, and, as should be obvious to anyone who passed third-grade
math, that also means it's about 50% *not* kerosene -- which
obviously means that it's NOT the same thing as kerosene.

not "exactly",but as the OP said,"basically".


Half kerosene and half not-kerosene is not "basically kerosene".


Yeah,it is.


So half beer and half **** is "basically beer" by your reasoning.

Suppose I offer you a drink. It's half beer and half ****. Will you
believe me if I tell you it's beer? After all, it *is* 50% beer,
right?



Ah,you won't admit you were wrong. So you weasel.
YOU said;
"No, Steve, I'm not. You don't know what's in WD-40. Go read the MSDS
and find out. Tell us what's there.
Hint: it's not kerosene."


Right: WD-40 *is not* kerosene.


again,wrong;
what's there IS kerosene,along with some other stuff.


Other stuff that's NOT KEROSENE. Is a glass of beer that's half other stuff
THAT'S NOT BEER still beer?

Except the MSDS -DOES- say it has 50% kerosene in it.
There IS kerosene in there. that proves your statement wrong.


No, I said WD-40 is not kerosene. Just like a glass that's half beer
and half **** isn't beer.

and your analogy is lacking. WD-40 is half kerosene,and half other
petroleum oils. IOW,"basically kerosene".


By the same "reasoning", a glass of half beer and half **** is
"basically beer".

Remind me never to go drinking with you.


I would not drink with anyone so dishonest.
You even edited out part of my post about your analogy being poor.


That's because your analogies are completely faulty. Since you insist on
embarrassing yourself by repeating them, I'll show you what's wrong.

here it is again;
"Except the MSDS -DOES- say it has 50% kerosene in it.
There IS kerosene in there. that proves your statement wrong.


I said WD-40 is not kerosene; the MSDS shows that 50% of it is not kerosene;
that proved my statement RIGHT.

and your analogy is lacking. WD-40 is half kerosene,and half other
petroleum oils. IOW,"basically kerosene".
A better analogy would be half beer and half ale,but it's still "beer".


Wrong. Beer and ale are similar substances. The other 50% of WD-40 isn't even
remotely similar to kerosene. You're displaying your ignorance.

Or that denatured alcohol is STILL "alcohol",despite it having other things
in there."


Bad comparison. You're displaying your ignorance again. Denatured alcohol is
more than 90% alcohol.

WD-40 is half stuff that's chemically similar to kerosene, and half stuff
that's not even remotely close to kerosene.
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In article , Jim Yanik
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(Doug Miller) wrote in
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In article , Steve
Barker wrote:
On 7/18/2010 6:45 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
In articlewIidnWuMQ8fiSt_RnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@giganews. com, Steve
wrote:

Kerosene has always been a tried and true wasp sting remedy.
That is why wd40 works in that area. That is all it basically
is.

That old nonsense again. That simply isn't true. I posted a link
to the MSDS for WD40 earlier in this thread; go read it. It shows
clearly that WD40 is *not* "basically" just kerosense.


actually,it does,if you bother to check.



http://www.wd40.com/faqs/#a92


PUhleeze! Do not muddle this emotional hissy fight with facts! Sheeesh!

And just because WD40 says there is no kerosene in it doesn't mean there
isn't any kerosene in it. You know how these big corporations lie, and how
some of the posters here know more than the sum total of the knowledge of
mankind, past, present, and future. And that's only the ones in this
discussion, and not the sum total for all the Internet.

HTH

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In article , Jim Yanik
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In article , Steve
Barker wrote:
On 7/18/2010 6:45 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
In articlewIidnWuMQ8fiSt_RnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@giganews. com, Steve
wrote:

Kerosene has always been a tried and true wasp sting remedy.
That is why wd40 works in that area. That is all it basically
is.

That old nonsense again. That simply isn't true. I posted a link
to the MSDS for WD40 earlier in this thread; go read it. It shows
clearly that WD40 is *not* "basically" just kerosense.

actually,it does,if you bother to check.



http://www.wd40.com/faqs/#a92


PUhleeze! Do not muddle this emotional hissy fight with facts! Sheeesh!

And just because WD40 says there is no kerosene in it doesn't mean there
isn't any kerosene in it.


However, the fact that there is no kerosene in WD-40 means that there
is no kerosene in WD-40, so it works out pretty much the same,
regardless. :-)


Well, then there's that .............


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