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Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
....on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look
rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
On Jul 15, 11:31*pm, zxcvbob wrote:
...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. *It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob cable may be frayed, i would just replace the cable. better safe than sorry |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
zxcvbob wrote the following:
...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob New brake cable. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
willshak wrote:
zxcvbob wrote the following: ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob New brake cable. Thirded, they're only a few bucks. If you bring in the old housings, the bike shop can cut you some new ones the same length for an extra couple of dollars. Jon |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
In article ,
zxcvbob wrote: ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob We have a militant contingent of WD-40 detractors in a.h.r., but the can says it "loosens rusted parts" and "frees sticky mechanisms," and it does, for me, every time. |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
willshak wrote:
zxcvbob wrote the following: ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob New brake cable. Does not cost much either. |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
"zxcvbob" wrote in message ... ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob What we used to use back in the motorcycle days is soak in acetone, and try to work it loose. Most times, though, it needed replaced. What is great is to take the whole cable out of the housing, but then you have to cut it, making a clean cut, and then to reinsert it all the way through, you have to solder the end to make it smooth enough to pass through the housing without catching. A lot of times, unless it was a specialty rare cable, or expensive, it was just easier to replace the whole thing. HTH Steve visit my blog at http://cabgbypasssurgery.com watch for the book |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:35:29 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote: In article , zxcvbob wrote: ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob We have a militant contingent of WD-40 detractors in a.h.r., but the can says it "loosens rusted parts" and "frees sticky mechanisms," and it does, for me, every time. Sounds good to me. Once you get the cable oving in the sheath a little bit, it will work completely loose very quickly. |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
In article , zxcvbob wrote:
....on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? PB-Blaster works a lot better than either of those. But IMHO you're better off just replacing the cable -- it's only a few bucks. |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
zxcvbob wrote:
...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? PB Blaster- But replacement is the smart move. Jim |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
The one time I did this, used liquid wrench. Position the bike so that
one end of the cable sticks straight up. Expect to be there for a while, with the little dripper can. But, the cable did free up. I've also got a balky cable for my Blazer. For that, I used a 1 cc syringe, with 25 ga x 5/8 needle. Pull the plunger out, and filled the syringe with silicone spray. Inject under the boot, at the end of the cable. Pump the parking brake pedal and release, five times every time I get in the truck. When I can remember. Seems to be helping. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "zxcvbob" wrote in message ... ....on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
zxcvbob wrote:
...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob WD-40, it will leave behind some lubrication to prevent future freeze ups. -- LSMFT I haven't spoken to my wife in 18 months. I don't like to interrupt her. |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
WD-40, it will leave behind some lubrication to prevent future freeze ups. over time wd 40 residue turns to sticky goo........... |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
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Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
On 7/16/2010 8:35 AM, LSMFT wrote:
zxcvbob wrote: ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob WD-40, it will leave behind some lubrication to prevent future freeze ups. Unless they have recently changed the formulation the light aromatics will evaporate leaving sticky stuff behind. WD40 isn't a lubricant. |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:31:41 -0500, zxcvbob wrote:
...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob Probably stuck near the ends. PB-Blaster works here. |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
In article , George wrote:
On 7/16/2010 8:35 AM, LSMFT wrote: zxcvbob wrote: ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob WD-40, it will leave behind some lubrication to prevent future freeze ups. Unless they have recently changed the formulation the light aromatics will evaporate leaving sticky stuff behind. WD40 isn't a lubricant. Nonsense. There isn't any "sticky stuff" in WD-40, and it is a lubricant. Not a very good one, I'll grant you, but it is a lubricant. The MSDS http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf...d494716385.pdf shows that it's somewhere between 17 and 25 percent oil. |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:23:41 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: WD-40, it will leave behind some lubrication to prevent future freeze ups. over time wd 40 residue turns to sticky goo........... How long a time? I'm still waiting for the 150 yr old clock that I 'cleaned' with WD40 in 1983 & only wind up every couple of years to stop keeping good time. From what I can see- no goo & no dust. Jim |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
George wrote:
On 7/16/2010 8:35 AM, LSMFT wrote: zxcvbob wrote: ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob WD-40, it will leave behind some lubrication to prevent future freeze ups. Unless they have recently changed the formulation the light aromatics will evaporate leaving sticky stuff behind. WD40 isn't a lubricant. Motor oil and axle grease are likewise "sticky stuff." As an aside, WD-40 does as good a job of shining a stainless steel sink as the products made for that purpose. |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
Doug Miller wrote:
In article , George wrote: On 7/16/2010 8:35 AM, LSMFT wrote: zxcvbob wrote: ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob WD-40, it will leave behind some lubrication to prevent future freeze ups. Unless they have recently changed the formulation the light aromatics will evaporate leaving sticky stuff behind. WD40 isn't a lubricant. Nonsense. There isn't any "sticky stuff" in WD-40, and it is a lubricant. Not a very good one, I'll grant you, but it is a lubricant. The MSDS http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf...d494716385.pdf shows that it's somewhere between 17 and 25 percent oil. If it has fish oil or vegetable oil in it, it'll get sticky as it oxidizes. If it's all mineral oil or lard oil, it won't. I'm not sure that it matters for this application. I need something that will penetrate and will lubricate a little so I can get the cable to move in the housing. Then I'll probably pull it out and inspect it, and then not be able to get it back in. PB Blaster, huh? Do I get that at a gun shop or Ace Hardware or an auto parts store? Bob |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
zxcvbob wrote:
...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Whatever you use, follow it with an oil chaser. |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
HeyBub wrote:
George wrote: On 7/16/2010 8:35 AM, LSMFT wrote: zxcvbob wrote: ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob WD-40, it will leave behind some lubrication to prevent future freeze ups. Unless they have recently changed the formulation the light aromatics will evaporate leaving sticky stuff behind. WD40 isn't a lubricant. Motor oil and axle grease are likewise "sticky stuff." As an aside, WD-40 does as good a job of shining a stainless steel sink as the products made for that purpose. And makes the kitchen smell to good? |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
In article , zxcvbob wrote:
Doug Miller wrote: In article , George wrote: On 7/16/2010 8:35 AM, LSMFT wrote: zxcvbob wrote: ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob WD-40, it will leave behind some lubrication to prevent future freeze ups. Unless they have recently changed the formulation the light aromatics will evaporate leaving sticky stuff behind. WD40 isn't a lubricant. Nonsense. There isn't any "sticky stuff" in WD-40, and it is a lubricant. Not a very good one, I'll grant you, but it is a lubricant. The MSDS http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf...d494716385.pdf shows that it's somewhere between 17 and 25 percent oil. If it has fish oil or vegetable oil in it, it'll get sticky as it oxidizes. It doesn't, so it won't. Did you look at the MSDS? If it's all mineral oil or lard oil, it won't. I'm not sure that it matters for this application. I need something that will penetrate and will lubricate a little so I can get the cable to move in the housing. Then I'll probably pull it out and inspect it, and then not be able to get it back in. PB Blaster, huh? Do I get that at a gun shop or Ace Hardware or an auto parts store? I wouldn't expect to find it at a gun shop, but yes to the others. WalMart too, maybe. |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
zxcvbob wrote:
I need something that will penetrate and will lubricate a little so I can get the cable to move in the housing. Then I'll probably pull it out and inspect it, and then not be able to get it back in. PB Blaster, huh? Do I get that at a gun shop or Ace Hardware or an auto parts store? Bob If you already have WD40 just use it. The advantages of other products for this application aren't worth a trip to the store. If the casing itself isn't starting to crack and the visible parts of the cable, both ends and an inch or so inside the casing are good shape, it is probably safe to reuse. If you do, be sure to check the parts of the cable hidden by the brake lever frequently and carefully to make sure the cable isn't starting to come apart or fray at that end. As others have said, you will need to grease the cable too. --Betsy |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
"Betsy" wrote \ If you already have WD40 just use it. The advantages of other products for this application aren't worth a trip to the store. I can see you haven't ever used PB Blaster, and are totally uninformed. I have put it on "frozen" bolts, and left it overnight. The next day, I could have gotten it loose with my hands, but chose to use light pressure from a wrench, pliers, or visegrips. You should try something before you comment on it. Kroil is good, too. And both are the kinds of things that a can of it lasts five years, but when you need it, nothing else will do. Like an impact driver. Steve visit my blog at http://cabgbypasssurgery.com |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
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Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
On Jul 15, 11:31*pm, zxcvbob wrote:
...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. *It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob Just go to a bike shop and buy a new cable. Seriously, it's not worth fighting with it. The better ones are now made of stainless and still aren't any more expensive than a can of penetrating oil. Make sure you get some ferrules and also when you cut the housing, make sure you dress the housing end flat with either a file or a bench grinder. good luck nate |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
zxcvbob wrote:
Doug Miller wrote: In article , George wrote: On 7/16/2010 8:35 AM, LSMFT wrote: zxcvbob wrote: ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob WD-40, it will leave behind some lubrication to prevent future freeze ups. Unless they have recently changed the formulation the light aromatics will evaporate leaving sticky stuff behind. WD40 isn't a lubricant. Nonsense. There isn't any "sticky stuff" in WD-40, and it is a lubricant. Not a very good one, I'll grant you, but it is a lubricant. The MSDS http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf...d494716385.pdf shows that it's somewhere between 17 and 25 percent oil. If it has fish oil or vegetable oil in it, it'll get sticky as it oxidizes. If it's all mineral oil or lard oil, it won't. I'm not sure that it matters for this application. I need something that will penetrate and will lubricate a little so I can get the cable to move in the housing. Then I'll probably pull it out and inspect it, and then not be able to get it back in. PB Blaster, huh? Do I get that at a gun shop or Ace Hardware or an auto parts store? Bob Any automotive store, It's the strongest and the fastest rust killer. -- LSMFT I haven't spoken to my wife in 18 months. I don't like to interrupt her. |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
"LSMFT" wrote in message ... zxcvbob wrote: Doug Miller wrote: In article , George wrote: On 7/16/2010 8:35 AM, LSMFT wrote: zxcvbob wrote: ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob WD-40, it will leave behind some lubrication to prevent future freeze ups. Unless they have recently changed the formulation the light aromatics will evaporate leaving sticky stuff behind. WD40 isn't a lubricant. Nonsense. There isn't any "sticky stuff" in WD-40, and it is a lubricant. Not a very good one, I'll grant you, but it is a lubricant. The MSDS http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf...d494716385.pdf shows that it's somewhere between 17 and 25 percent oil. If it has fish oil or vegetable oil in it, it'll get sticky as it oxidizes. If it's all mineral oil or lard oil, it won't. I'm not sure that it matters for this application. I need something that will penetrate and will lubricate a little so I can get the cable to move in the housing. Then I'll probably pull it out and inspect it, and then not be able to get it back in. PB Blaster, huh? Do I get that at a gun shop or Ace Hardware or an auto parts store? Bob Any automotive store, It's the strongest and the fastest rust killer. -- LSMFT Smitty Two thinks it makes a good asthma inhaler. He likes the garlic flavored one. Steve |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:35:34 -0400, LSMFT wrote:
zxcvbob wrote: ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob WD-40, it will leave behind some lubrication to prevent future freeze ups. Not as much lubrication as liquid wrench - and PB leaves even more. Best bet is to use a penetrant to free it up, and a lubricant to protect and lubricate it. |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
On 7/16/2010 10:16 AM, HeyBub wrote:
George wrote: On 7/16/2010 8:35 AM, LSMFT wrote: zxcvbob wrote: ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob WD-40, it will leave behind some lubrication to prevent future freeze ups. Unless they have recently changed the formulation the light aromatics will evaporate leaving sticky stuff behind. WD40 isn't a lubricant. Motor oil and axle grease are likewise "sticky stuff." As an aside, WD-40 does as good a job of shining a stainless steel sink as the products made for that purpose. I worked at a defense plant back in 1971 that produced artillery shell safety devices. The round had to spin so many times before it would arm. The clockwork mechanisms of the devices were lubed with WD-40 on the production line. I suppose it was also used to protect the devices in case of moisture intrusion. TDD |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
Then, wait six more months, and tell us what you find.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... Unless they have recently changed the formulation the light aromatics will evaporate leaving sticky stuff behind. WD40 isn't a lubricant. Try a little experiment: spray some WD-40 onto a piece of clean glass and let it sit in the sun until it evaporates. Then tell report back what remains. HINT: it won't be sticky. |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
Yeah, him and his girlfriend. Ouch! Good thing they had that cordless
phone nearby. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Smitty Two" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: WD-40 is more than up to this challenge. Totally agree, but you won't convince SteveB of that. He believes WD-40 is an adhesive. |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
(Doug Miller) wrote in
: In article , zxcvbob wrote: Doug Miller wrote: In article , George wrote: On 7/16/2010 8:35 AM, LSMFT wrote: zxcvbob wrote: ...on a bicycle that hasn't been used in a while. It doesn't look rusty, but that's probably what it is. Liquid Wrench, or WD-40? Bob WD-40, it will leave behind some lubrication to prevent future freeze ups. Unless they have recently changed the formulation the light aromatics will evaporate leaving sticky stuff behind. WD40 isn't a lubricant. Nonsense. There isn't any "sticky stuff" in WD-40, and it is a lubricant. Not a very good one, I'll grant you, but it is a lubricant. The MSDS http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf...d494716385.pdf shows that it's somewhere between 17 and 25 percent oil. If it has fish oil or vegetable oil in it, it'll get sticky as it oxidizes. It doesn't, so it won't. Did you look at the MSDS? If it's all mineral oil or lard oil, it won't. I'm not sure that it matters for this application. I need something that will penetrate and will lubricate a little so I can get the cable to move in the housing. Then I'll probably pull it out and inspect it, and then not be able to get it back in. PB Blaster, huh? Do I get that at a gun shop or Ace Hardware or an auto parts store? I wouldn't expect to find it at a gun shop, but yes to the others. WalMart too, maybe. WalMart does have it,that's where I bought mine. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
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Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
"Jim Yanik" wrote in message 4... Smitty Two wrote in news:prestwhich- : In article , wrote: WD-40 is more than up to this challenge. Totally agree, but you won't convince SteveB of that. He believes WD-40 is an adhesive. no,it's just not worthwhile to use. and it does gum up over time. -- Jim Yanik I doubt you'll convince SmittyTwo of that. His mind seems to be made up. And you may not have any other opinion than his. But, I do agree. WD40 is for temporary lubrication, cleaning, and other uses, but it does gum up over time, or is just a sand magnet. Steve |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
On 7/17/2010 2:39 PM, Steve B wrote:
"Jim wrote in message 4... Smitty wrote in news:prestwhich- : In , wrote: WD-40 is more than up to this challenge. Totally agree, but you won't convince SteveB of that. He believes WD-40 is an adhesive. no,it's just not worthwhile to use. and it does gum up over time. -- Jim Yanik I doubt you'll convince SmittyTwo of that. His mind seems to be made up. And you may not have any other opinion than his. But, I do agree. WD40 is for temporary lubrication, cleaning, and other uses, but it does gum up over time, or is just a sand magnet. Steve ACTUALLY, it's not a lubricant at all. It's a water displacer. And it is certainly not a penetrating oil. -- Steve Barker remove the "not" from my address to email |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:35:17 -0500, Steve Barker
wrote: On 7/17/2010 2:39 PM, Steve B wrote: "Jim wrote in message 4... Smitty wrote in news:prestwhich- : In , wrote: WD-40 is more than up to this challenge. Totally agree, but you won't convince SteveB of that. He believes WD-40 is an adhesive. no,it's just not worthwhile to use. and it does gum up over time. -- Jim Yanik I doubt you'll convince SmittyTwo of that. His mind seems to be made up. And you may not have any other opinion than his. But, I do agree. WD40 is for temporary lubrication, cleaning, and other uses, but it does gum up over time, or is just a sand magnet. Steve ACTUALLY, it's not a lubricant at all. It's a water displacer. And it is certainly not a penetrating oil. I guess sinse rust is hydrated iron oxide, there could be a case made for the water displacement function getting rid of the "rust" and turning it to "iron oxide" |
Unsticking a frozen back brake cable
"Steve Barker" wrote in message ... On 7/17/2010 2:39 PM, Steve B wrote: "Jim wrote in message 4... Smitty wrote in news:prestwhich- : In , wrote: WD-40 is more than up to this challenge. Totally agree, but you won't convince SteveB of that. He believes WD-40 is an adhesive. no,it's just not worthwhile to use. and it does gum up over time. -- Jim Yanik I doubt you'll convince SmittyTwo of that. His mind seems to be made up. And you may not have any other opinion than his. But, I do agree. WD40 is for temporary lubrication, cleaning, and other uses, but it does gum up over time, or is just a sand magnet. Steve ACTUALLY, it's not a lubricant at all. It's a water displacer. And it is certainly not a penetrating oil. -- Steve Barker remove the "not" from my address to email Well, I know that and YOU know that but ......... I got a thing a while back about 99 uses for WD 40. Some of them were quite unique, and I'd like to find it again and print it. One of the things was wasp bites. If I get any this summer, I'll be trying it. I got stung one day last summer by five of the lovely little creatures. All at once. Ow! My BIL told me a story of how he used it at banks he did service work at to "rejuvenate" the granite tops. He saw that the lady was watching him, trying to find out the secret. She asked him what it was, and he just told her, "Oh, you have to have a federal license to buy this particular stuff." Made some nice bucks just with some liquid WD 40 and a terrycloth towel. Steve visit my blog at http://cabgbypasssurgery.com |
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