The builder installed a cheap standard (found in many closets) light
in my pantry that has a glass globe that attaches with 3 screws. It is
mounted on the wall, not the ceiling.

After 9 years, I came home and the globe had broken off and shattered
everywhere. It was not loose as the neck that the screws attach to
was intact still in the fixture.

My question is are these lights meant to be mounted on a wall or do I
need a new fixture? It could have just been a fluke that it broke off
after all this time, but I could see how hanging sideways would put
stress on the glass.

If the globe was fairly small, then those were meant to be attached to
the wall. Bigger ones (maybe 6"+ across) usually go on the ceiling.
Any of the "big box" stores likely have a close replacement, or take
the opportunity to get something you really like. Easy to swap out,
and typically cheap enough.

Mike C wrote the following:
The builder installed a cheap standard (found in many closets) light
in my pantry that has a glass globe that attaches with 3 screws. It is
mounted on the wall, not the ceiling.

After 9 years, I came home and the globe had broken off and shattered
everywhere. It was not loose as the neck that the screws attach to
was intact still in the fixture.

My question is are these lights meant to be mounted on a wall or do I
need a new fixture? It could have just been a fluke that it broke off
after all this time, but I could see how hanging sideways would put
stress on the glass.


The screws could have been too tightly turned and expansion of the glass
from the light heat caused it to break off at the neck.
Solutions?
1. Do not screw the new globe on too tightly, let it float a little for
expansion.
2. Use a CFL instead of an incandescent bulb.CFLs stay much cooler than
incands.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

"Mike C" wrote in message
...
The builder installed a cheap standard (found in many closets)
light
in my pantry that has a glass globe that attaches with 3 screws.
It is
mounted on the wall, not the ceiling.

After 9 years, I came home and the globe had broken off and
shattered
everywhere. It was not loose as the neck that the screws attach
to
was intact still in the fixture.

My question is are these lights meant to be mounted on a wall or
do I
need a new fixture? It could have just been a fluke that it
broke off
after all this time, but I could see how hanging sideways would
put
stress on the glass.

You got good advice about the CFL. The fixture is fine on the
wall, IMHO. Just be careful that when you tighten the screws that
you leave enough looseness that you can easily turn the globe by
hand. That's the standard I use with globes like that.

--
On most days,
it's just not worth
the effort of chewing
through the restraints..

On Jul 11, 2:45*pm, willshak wrote:
Mike C wrote the following:

The builder installed a cheap standard (found in many closets) light
in my pantry that has a glass globe that attaches with 3 screws. It is
mounted on the wall, not the ceiling.

After 9 years, I came home and the globe had broken off and shattered
everywhere. *It was not loose as the neck that the screws attach to
was intact still in the fixture.

My question is are these lights meant to be mounted on a wall or do I
need a new fixture? It could have just been a fluke that it broke off
after all this time, but I could see how hanging sideways would put
stress on the glass.

The screws could have been too tightly turned and expansion of the glass
from the light heat caused it to break off at the neck.
Solutions?
1. Do not screw the new globe on too tightly, let it float a little for
expansion.
2. Use a CFL instead of an incandescent bulb.CFLs stay much cooler than
incands.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Judging where it broke, I doubt it was over tightening. The neck was
entirely intact still attached to the fixture.

The globe is around 6" with a 4"neck (I'm guessing).

I wondered if heat was a factor. I had a 60 watt bulb in there. A CFL
probably won't work as this is a pantry with a motion sensing switch
so it goes on and off many many times a day and the lag for the CFL
would also be an issue. Maybe I'll try a incandescent 40 watt bulb
and see what happens.

On Jul 12, 4:15*pm, Mike C wrote:
On Jul 11, 2:45*pm, willshak wrote:





Mike C wrote the following:

The builder installed a cheap standard (found in many closets) light
in my pantry that has a glass globe that attaches with 3 screws. It is
mounted on the wall, not the ceiling.

After 9 years, I came home and the globe had broken off and shattered
everywhere. *It was not loose as the neck that the screws attach to
was intact still in the fixture.

My question is are these lights meant to be mounted on a wall or do I
need a new fixture? It could have just been a fluke that it broke off
after all this time, but I could see how hanging sideways would put
stress on the glass.

The screws could have been too tightly turned and expansion of the glass
from the light heat caused it to break off at the neck.
Solutions?
1. Do not screw the new globe on too tightly, let it float a little for
expansion.
2. Use a CFL instead of an incandescent bulb.CFLs stay much cooler than
incands.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Judging where it broke, I doubt it was over tightening. The neck was
entirely intact still attached to the fixture.

The globe is around 6" with a 4"neck (I'm guessing).

I wondered if heat was a factor. *I had a 60 watt bulb in there. A CFL
probably won't work as this is a pantry with a motion sensing switch
so it goes on and off many many times *a day and the lag for the CFL
would also be an issue. *Maybe I'll try a incandescent 40 watt bulb
and see what happens.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Judging where it broke, I doubt it was over tightening. The neck
was entirely intact still attached to the fixture."

I feel you judge in error.

The globe expanded and would have loved to expand the neck along with
it. Since the neck was immobilized by the screws it couldn't expand
and the globe cracked at the nearest place that could - just above the
neck.

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, Mike C wrote:
On Jul 11, 2:45 pm, willshak wrote:





Mike C wrote the following:

The builder installed a cheap standard (found in many closets)
light
in my pantry that has a glass globe that attaches with 3 screws.
It is
mounted on the wall, not the ceiling.

After 9 years, I came home and the globe had broken off and
shattered
everywhere. It was not loose as the neck that the screws attach
to
was intact still in the fixture.

My question is are these lights meant to be mounted on a wall or
do I
need a new fixture? It could have just been a fluke that it
broke off
after all this time, but I could see how hanging sideways would
put
stress on the glass.

The screws could have been too tightly turned and expansion of the
glass
from the light heat caused it to break off at the neck.
Solutions?
1. Do not screw the new globe on too tightly, let it float a
little for
expansion.
2. Use a CFL instead of an incandescent bulb.CFLs stay much cooler
than
incands.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Judging where it broke, I doubt it was over tightening. The neck was
entirely intact still attached to the fixture.

The globe is around 6" with a 4"neck (I'm guessing).

I wondered if heat was a factor. I had a 60 watt bulb in there. A
CFL
probably won't work as this is a pantry with a motion sensing switch
so it goes on and off many many times a day and the lag for the CFL
would also be an issue. Maybe I'll try a incandescent 40 watt bulb
and see what happens.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Judging where it broke, I doubt it was over tightening. The neck
was entirely intact still attached to the fixture."

I feel you judge in error.

The globe expanded and would have loved to expand the neck along with
it. Since the neck was immobilized by the screws it couldn't expand
and the globe cracked at the nearest place that could - just above the
neck.

Bingo!

Mike C wrote the following:
On Jul 11, 2:45 pm, willshak wrote:

Mike C wrote the following:


The builder installed a cheap standard (found in many closets) light
in my pantry that has a glass globe that attaches with 3 screws. It is
mounted on the wall, not the ceiling.

After 9 years, I came home and the globe had broken off and shattered
everywhere. It was not loose as the neck that the screws attach to
was intact still in the fixture.

My question is are these lights meant to be mounted on a wall or do I
need a new fixture? It could have just been a fluke that it broke off
after all this time, but I could see how hanging sideways would put
stress on the glass.

The screws could have been too tightly turned and expansion of the glass
from the light heat caused it to break off at the neck.
Solutions?
1. Do not screw the new globe on too tightly, let it float a little for
expansion.
2. Use a CFL instead of an incandescent bulb.CFLs stay much cooler than
incands.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @


Judging where it broke, I doubt it was over tightening. The neck was
entirely intact still attached to the fixture.


That's usually the case.
The globe is around 6" with a 4"neck (I'm guessing).

I wondered if heat was a factor. I had a 60 watt bulb in there. A CFL
probably won't work as this is a pantry with a motion sensing switch
so it goes on and off many many times a day and the lag for the CFL
would also be an issue.

Yeah, waiting a couple of seconds for the bulb to get to full brightness
would be a major issue. How long do you stay in the pantry with
incandescent bulbs?

Maybe I'll try a incandescent 40 watt bulb
and see what happens.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

On Jul 13, 9:03*am, willshak wrote:
Mike C wrote the following:





On Jul 11, 2:45 pm, willshak wrote:

Mike C wrote the following:

The builder installed a cheap standard (found in many closets) light
in my pantry that has a glass globe that attaches with 3 screws. It is
mounted on the wall, not the ceiling.

After 9 years, I came home and the globe had broken off and shattered
everywhere. *It was not loose as the neck that the screws attach to
was intact still in the fixture.

My question is are these lights meant to be mounted on a wall or do I
need a new fixture? It could have just been a fluke that it broke off
after all this time, but I could see how hanging sideways would put
stress on the glass.

The screws could have been too tightly turned and expansion of the glass
from the light heat caused it to break off at the neck.
Solutions?
1. Do not screw the new globe on too tightly, let it float a little for
expansion.
2. Use a CFL instead of an incandescent bulb.CFLs stay much cooler than
incands.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Judging where it broke, I doubt it was over tightening. The neck was
entirely intact still attached to the fixture.

That's usually the case.

The globe is around 6" with a 4"neck (I'm guessing).

I wondered if heat was a factor. *I had a 60 watt bulb in there. A CFL
probably won't work as this is a pantry with a motion sensing switch
so it goes on and off many many times *a day and the lag for the CFL
would also be an issue. *

Yeah, waiting a couple of seconds for the bulb to get to full brightness
would be a major issue. How long do you stay in the pantry with
incandescent bulbs?

Maybe I'll try a incandescent 40 watt bulb
and see what happens.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I appreciate the advice, but it actually is an issue. We go in there
dozens of times a day and sometimes for 2 seconds- like to grab a
coke. I also believe CFL are not intended for that kidn of constant on/
off use.

On Jul 13, 9:03*am, willshak wrote:
Mike C wrote the following:





On Jul 11, 2:45 pm, willshak wrote:

Mike C wrote the following:

The builder installed a cheap standard (found in many closets) light
in my pantry that has a glass globe that attaches with 3 screws. It is
mounted on the wall, not the ceiling.

After 9 years, I came home and the globe had broken off and shattered
everywhere. *It was not loose as the neck that the screws attach to
was intact still in the fixture.

My question is are these lights meant to be mounted on a wall or do I
need a new fixture? It could have just been a fluke that it broke off
after all this time, but I could see how hanging sideways would put
stress on the glass.

The screws could have been too tightly turned and expansion of the glass
from the light heat caused it to break off at the neck.
Solutions?
1. Do not screw the new globe on too tightly, let it float a little for
expansion.
2. Use a CFL instead of an incandescent bulb.CFLs stay much cooler than
incands.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Judging where it broke, I doubt it was over tightening. The neck was
entirely intact still attached to the fixture.

That's usually the case.

The globe is around 6" with a 4"neck (I'm guessing).

I wondered if heat was a factor. *I had a 60 watt bulb in there. A CFL
probably won't work as this is a pantry with a motion sensing switch
so it goes on and off many many times *a day and the lag for the CFL
would also be an issue. *

Yeah, waiting a couple of seconds for the bulb to get to full brightness
would be a major issue. How long do you stay in the pantry with
incandescent bulbs?

Maybe I'll try a incandescent 40 watt bulb
and see what happens.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you look around the wewn, you will see:

:On/Off cycling: CFLs are sensitive to frequent on/off cycling. Their
rated lifetimes of 10,000 hours are reduced in applications where the
light is switched on and off very often. Closets and other places
where lights are needed for brief illumination should use incandescent
or LED bulbs. "

On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 13:42:04 -0700 (PDT), Michael Cortese
wrote:



I appreciate the advice, but it actually is an issue. We go in there
dozens of times a day and sometimes for 2 seconds- like to grab a
coke. I also believe CFL are not intended for that kidn of constant on/
off use.

I agree. Not counting using it, I go in the bathroom only 3 or 4
times a day and it's a rreal pain to wait until the lights warm up.
And it takes either 10 or 15 seconds for them to warm up, I forget.

I'm pretty sure if you look under the fixture, it's rated for 60
watts. And I understand why one might tighten the screws more when
it it is horizontal. When it's vertical, leaveing one still leaves it
the globe straight. But when horizontal, one would have the feeling
it was drooping, even if in fact it barely was.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 13:59:37 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15*pm, Mike C wrote:
On Jul 11, 2:45*pm, willshak wrote:





Mike C wrote the following:

The builder installed a cheap standard (found in many closets) light
in my pantry that has a glass globe that attaches with 3 screws. It is
mounted on the wall, not the ceiling.

After 9 years, I came home and the globe had broken off and shattered
everywhere. *It was not loose as the neck that the screws attach to
was intact still in the fixture.

My question is are these lights meant to be mounted on a wall or do I
need a new fixture? It could have just been a fluke that it broke off
after all this time, but I could see how hanging sideways would put
stress on the glass.

The screws could have been too tightly turned and expansion of the glass
from the light heat caused it to break off at the neck.
Solutions?
1. Do not screw the new globe on too tightly, let it float a little for
expansion.
2. Use a CFL instead of an incandescent bulb.CFLs stay much cooler than
incands.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Judging where it broke, I doubt it was over tightening. The neck was
entirely intact still attached to the fixture.

The globe is around 6" with a 4"neck (I'm guessing).

I wondered if heat was a factor. *I had a 60 watt bulb in there. A CFL
probably won't work as this is a pantry with a motion sensing switch
so it goes on and off many many times *a day and the lag for the CFL
would also be an issue. *Maybe I'll try a incandescent 40 watt bulb
and see what happens.-

"Judging where it broke, I doubt it was over tightening. The neck
was entirely intact still attached to the fixture."

I feel you judge in error.

The globe expanded and would have loved to expand the neck along with
it. Since the neck was immobilized by the screws it couldn't expand
and the globe cracked at the nearest place that could - just above the
neck.

I think we need more civil rights for glass globes. Why should it
have to crack at the nearest place it could? Or, why can't it crack
right at the screw? A circle is pretty strong, but I think it would
crack at the point of stress. If it were to break elsewhere, I'd
blame it on something else.

So, despite my other post, OP, I don't think it's at all clear why it
broke. How long have you used it? I'd just buy another one and
figure it might last much longer this time. And I would leave one or
two of the screws loose a little. I alwasy do with the two fixtures I
have like that, on the ceiling. If the same thing happens,
re-evaluate.

On Jul 13, 7:24*pm, mm wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 13:59:37 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03





wrote:
On Jul 12, wrote:
On Jul 11, 2:45*pm, willshak wrote:

MikeCwrote the following:

The builder installed a cheap standard (found in many closets) light
in my pantry that has a glassglobethat attaches with 3 screws. It is
mounted on the wall, not the ceiling.

After 9 years, I came home and theglobehad broken off and shattered
everywhere. *It was not loose as the neck that the screws attach to
was intact still in thefixture.

My question is are these lights meant to be mounted on a wall or do I
need a newfixture? It could have just been a fluke that it broke off
after all this time, but I could see how hanging sideways would put
stress on the glass.

The screws could have been too tightly turned and expansion of the glass
from the light heat caused it to break off at the neck.
Solutions?
1. Do not screw the newglobeon too tightly, let it float a little for
expansion.
2. Use a CFL instead of an incandescent bulb.CFLs stay much cooler than
incands.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Judging where it broke, I doubt it was over tightening. The neck was
entirely intact still attached to thefixture.

Theglobeis around 6" with a 4"neck (I'm guessing).

I wondered if heat was a factor. *I had a 60 watt bulb in there. A CFL
probably won't work as this is a pantry with a motion sensing switch
so it goes on and off many many times *a day and the lag for the CFL
would also be an issue. *Maybe I'll try a incandescent 40 watt bulb
and see what happens.-

"Judging where it broke, I doubt it was over tightening. The neck
was entirely intact still attached to thefixture."

I feel you judge in error.

Theglobeexpanded and would have loved to expand the neck along with
it. Since the neck was immobilized by the screws it couldn't expand
and theglobecracked at the nearest place that could - just above the
neck.

I think we need more civil rights for glass globes. *Why should it
have to crack at the nearest place it could? *Or, why can't it crack
right at the screw? * *A circle is pretty strong, but I think it would
crack at the point of stress. *If it were to break elsewhere, I'd
blame it on something else.

So, despite my other post, OP, I don't think it's at all clear why it
broke. *How long have you used it? * I'd just buy another one and
figure it might last much longer this time. *And I would leave one or
two of the screws loose a little. I alwasy do with the two fixtures I
have like that, on the ceiling. * If the same thing happens,
re-evaluate.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's what I am going to do- make sure nto to tighten the screws too
much and get a 40 watt buld instead of a 60. Luckily, those globes
are cheap enough that if it happens again, it is just the
inconveninece of the mess.