Is it possible to get Schlage residential grade lock hardware with
something other than the normal C keyway (preferably E or CE)?

Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com

Dan Lanciani wrote the following:
Is it possible to get Schlage residential grade lock hardware with
something other than the normal C keyway (preferably E or CE)?

Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com


I wonder if Schlage knows?

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"Dan Lanciani" ddl@danlan.*com wrote in message
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Is it possible to get Schlage residential grade lock hardware with
something other than the normal C keyway (preferably E or CE)?

Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com

"Dan Lanciani" ddl@danlan.*com wrote in message
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Is it possible to get Schlage residential grade lock hardware with
something other than the normal C keyway (preferably E or CE)?

Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com

In residential grade like the F series or the cheaper B series deadbolts the
only keyway available is the C keyway.

The better B series dead bolts and all of the A series and D series are
available in any lettered keyway.

The exception to this general rule was the original design of the F series
lock (long out of production) that used the standard style 5 pin cylinder.

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Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

In article , (Roger Shoaf) writes:
|
| "Dan Lanciani" ddl@danlan.*com wrote in message
| ...
| Is it possible to get Schlage residential grade lock hardware with
| something other than the normal C keyway (preferably E or CE)?
|
| Dan Lanciani
| ddl@danlan.*com
|
| In residential grade like the F series or the cheaper B series deadbolts the
| only keyway available is the C keyway.

I was afraid of that. I assume something like this:

http://absupply.net/gms-k001-knob--l...ocks-8816.aspx

will fit the deadbolts but be too long for the F series knobs I have.

| The better B series dead bolts and all of the A series and D series are
| available in any lettered keyway.
|
| The exception to this general rule was the original design of the F series
| lock (long out of production) that used the standard style 5 pin cylinder.

Hmm. That must be what I have (early 90's?). So in theory I could move
some of those to where I want an E keyway (after replacing the cylinder)
and replace them with newer F series. Everything would still look pretty
much the same without having to upgrade all the knobs. Are 5-pin E keyway
cylinders available?

Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com

The cylinder design is rather different. The one you sent the link,
isn't even near close to the design of the Schlage F line cylinder.

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"Dan Lanciani" ddl@danlan.*com wrote in message
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In article ,
(Roger Shoaf) writes:
|
| "Dan Lanciani" ddl@danlan.*com wrote in message
| ...
| Is it possible to get Schlage residential grade lock hardware with
| something other than the normal C keyway (preferably E or CE)?
|
| Dan Lanciani
| ddl@danlan.*com
|
| In residential grade like the F series or the cheaper B series
deadbolts the
| only keyway available is the C keyway.

I was afraid of that. I assume something like this:

http://absupply.net/gms-k001-knob--l...ocks-8816.aspx

will fit the deadbolts but be too long for the F series knobs I have.

| The better B series dead bolts and all of the A series and D series
are
| available in any lettered keyway.
|
| The exception to this general rule was the original design of the F
series
| lock (long out of production) that used the standard style 5 pin
cylinder.

Hmm. That must be what I have (early 90's?). So in theory I could
move
some of those to where I want an E keyway (after replacing the
cylinder)
and replace them with newer F series. Everything would still look
pretty
much the same without having to upgrade all the knobs. Are 5-pin E
keyway
cylinders available?

Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com

On Jun 12, 4:09*pm, ddl@danlan.*com (Dan Lanciani) wrote:
Is it possible to get Schlage residential grade lock hardware with
something other than the normal C keyway (preferably E or CE)?

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dan Lanciani
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ddl@danlan.*com


The actual question I see here is: "Can I obtain an impossible item?"

The answer is no...

Residential grade hardware uses a totally incompatible cylinder
design when compared to the rest of the Schlage product line...

What keyway do you WANT to use ? Start there and then select
a lock which will support that choice of keyway...

~~ Evan

"Dan Lanciani" ddl@danlan.*com wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Roger Shoaf) writes:
|
| "Dan Lanciani" ddl@danlan.*com wrote in message
| ...
| Is it possible to get Schlage residential grade lock hardware with
| something other than the normal C keyway (preferably E or CE)?
|
| Dan Lanciani
| ddl@danlan.*com
|
| In residential grade like the F series or the cheaper B series deadbolts
the
| only keyway available is the C keyway.

I was afraid of that. I assume something like this:


http://absupply.net/gms-k001-knob--l...ocks-8816.aspx



will fit the deadbolts but be too long for the F series knobs I have.


Be careful these aftermarket cylinders have only a limited application.


| The better B series dead bolts and all of the A series and D series are
| available in any lettered keyway.
|
| The exception to this general rule was the original design of the F
series
| lock (long out of production) that used the standard style 5 pin
cylinder.

Hmm. That must be what I have (early 90's?). So in theory I could move
some of those to where I want an E keyway (after replacing the cylinder)
and replace them with newer F series. Everything would still look pretty
much the same without having to upgrade all the knobs. Are 5-pin E keyway
cylinders available?

Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com

Early 90's is probably too new. it was only the first generation of the F
lock that would take a std. cyl.

But let's see if I can be of help. Exactly what are you trying to
accomplish? To hey your house the same as your office or something?

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

In article , (Roger Shoaf) writes:
|
| "Dan Lanciani" ddl@danlan.*com wrote in message
| ...
| In article ,
| (Roger Shoaf) writes:
| |
| | "Dan Lanciani" ddl@danlan.*com wrote in message
| | ...
| | Is it possible to get Schlage residential grade lock hardware with
| | something other than the normal C keyway (preferably E or CE)?
| |
| | Dan Lanciani
| | ddl@danlan.*com
| |
| | In residential grade like the F series or the cheaper B series deadbolts
| the
| | only keyway available is the C keyway.
|
| I was afraid of that. I assume something like this:
|
|
| http://absupply.net/gms-k001-knob--l...ocks-8816.aspx
|
|
|
| will fit the deadbolts but be too long for the F series knobs I have.
|
|
| Be careful these aftermarket cylinders have only a limited application.
|
|
| | The better B series dead bolts and all of the A series and D series are
| | available in any lettered keyway.
| |
| | The exception to this general rule was the original design of the F
| series
| | lock (long out of production) that used the standard style 5 pin
| cylinder.
|
| Hmm. That must be what I have (early 90's?). So in theory I could move
| some of those to where I want an E keyway (after replacing the cylinder)
| and replace them with newer F series. Everything would still look pretty
| much the same without having to upgrade all the knobs. Are 5-pin E keyway
| cylinders available?
|
| Dan Lanciani
| ddl@danlan.*com
|
| Early 90's is probably too new. it was only the first generation of the F
| lock that would take a std. cyl.

It's possible the one I looked at was older, so I should make a better
inventory.

| But let's see if I can be of help. Exactly what are you trying to
| accomplish? To hey your house the same as your office or something?

I have two adjacent houses and (small attached) office master-keyed to my
liking. It's all residential hardware with C keyways. I just bought another
house. I would like to make things slightly harder by using E or CE keyways
there with an H key for my master, but only if it is a very low-effort project.
Doing anything more interesting (even going to 6 pins) creates a cascade of
work...

Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com

On Jun 13, 8:19*pm, ddl@danlan.*com (Dan Lanciani) wrote:
In article , (Roger Shoaf) writes:

|
| "Dan Lanciani" ddl@danlan.*com wrote in message
...
| In article , | (Roger Shoaf) writes:

| |
| | "Dan Lanciani" ddl@danlan.*com wrote in message
| ...
| | Is it possible to get Schlage residential grade lock hardware with
| | something other than the normal C keyway (preferably E or CE)?
| |
| | Dan Lanciani
| | ddl@danlan.*com
| |
| | In residential grade like the F series or the cheaper B series deadbolts
| the
| | only keyway available is the C keyway.
|
| I was afraid of that. *I assume something like this:
|
|
|http://absupply.net/gms-k001-knob--l...schlage-e-keyw...
|
|
|
| will fit the deadbolts but be too long for the F series knobs I have.
|
|
| Be careful these aftermarket cylinders have only a limited application.
|
|
| | The better B series dead bolts and all of the A series and D series are
| | available in any lettered keyway.
| |
| | The exception to this general rule was the original design of the F
| series
| | lock (long out of production) that used the standard style 5 pin
| cylinder.
|
| Hmm. *That must be what I have (early 90's?). *So in theory I could move
| some of those to where I want an E keyway (after replacing the cylinder)
| and replace them with newer F series. *Everything would still look pretty
| much the same without having to upgrade all the knobs. *Are 5-pin E keyway
| cylinders available?
|
| Dan Lanciani
| ddl@danlan.*com
|
| Early 90's is probably too new. *it was only the first generation of the F
| lock that would take a std. cyl.

It's possible the one I looked at was older, so I should make a better
inventory.

| But let's see if I can be of help. *Exactly what are you trying to
| accomplish? *To hey your house the same as your office or something?

I have two adjacent houses and (small attached) office master-keyed to my
liking. *It's all residential hardware with C keyways. *I just bought another
house. *I would like to make things slightly harder by using E or CE keyways
there with an H key for my master, but only if it is a very low-effort project.
Doing anything more interesting (even going to 6 pins) creates a cascade of
work...

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dan Lanciani
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ddl@danlan.*com


You are trying too hard... You probably don't even need the master
key
system you have for your situation, you would only need to carry what,
two or three extra keys than the one you have right now...

Sounds like overkill...

~~ Evan

"Dan Lanciani" ddl@danlan.*com wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Roger Shoaf) writes:
|
| Early 90's is probably too new. it was only the first generation of the
F
| lock that would take a std. cyl.

It's possible the one I looked at was older, so I should make a better
inventory.

| But let's see if I can be of help. Exactly what are you trying to
| accomplish? To hey your house the same as your office or something?

I have two adjacent houses and (small attached) office master-keyed to my
liking. It's all residential hardware with C keyways. I just bought
another
house. I would like to make things slightly harder by using E or CE
keyways
there with an H key for my master, but only if it is a very low-effort
project.
Doing anything more interesting (even going to 6 pins) creates a cascade
of
work...


Don,

You are making life difficult for yourself.

By my count you have a masterkey system with 4 different keys.

This is very much doable with a standard 5 pin system.

The need for multiple keyways comes in in much larger systems like multi
story hotels and the like.

I will give you a hint, if you keep your eyes open on e-bay, you might score
some nice Schlage A series locks, and those will outlive you. The F series
is junk.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

On Jun 14, 1:47*am, "Roger Shoaf" wrote:
"Dan Lanciani" ddl@danlan.*com wrote in message

...





In article ,
(Roger Shoaf) writes:
|
| Early 90's is probably too new. *it was only the first generation of the
F
| lock that would take a std. cyl.

It's possible the one I looked at was older, so I should make a better
inventory.

| But let's see if I can be of help. *Exactly what are you trying to
| accomplish? *To hey your house the same as your office or something?

I have two adjacent houses and (small attached) office master-keyed to my
liking. *It's all residential hardware with C keyways. *I just bought
another
house. *I would like to make things slightly harder by using E or CE
keyways
there with an H key for my master, but only if it is a very low-effort
project.
Doing anything more interesting (even going to 6 pins) creates a cascade
of
work...

Don,

You are making life difficult for yourself.

By my count you have a masterkey system with 4 different keys.

This is very much doable with a standard 5 pin system.

The need for multiple keyways comes in in much larger systems like multi
story hotels and the like.

I will give you a hint, if you keep your eyes open on e-bay, you might score
some nice Schlage A series locks, and those will outlive you. *The F series
is junk.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

Give me a call and I will walk you through this.

Rich Howard @ www.absupply.net 877-631-9411