Typically, how many horizontal studs were used ca 1965:
One near ceiling, one in middle and one near floor?


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Typically, how many horizontal studs were used ca 1965:
One near ceiling, one in middle and one near floor?


Yes, that is pretty standard with platform framing. Top and bottom plates
and in the center, a fire stop. They are often staggered along the center
to make nailing easier.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

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Typically, how many horizontal studs were used ca 1965:
One near ceiling, one in middle and one near floor?


Yes, that is pretty standard with platform framing. Top and bottom
plates and in the center, a fire stop. They are often staggered along
the center to make nailing easier.

Back in stone age, we just called the row in the middle 'blocking'. It
doesn't really act as much of a fire stop (other than maybe for a
burning outlet in that stud bay), since if the room is involved, the
whole wall will light off anyway. Fire stops are between floors, or at
the edge of a ceiling in a balloon-framed house or basement, to keep
fire from propogating into a vertical chase. The one in the middle of
the wall is to stiffen the wall. Common in a tall wall, often omitted in
an 8 foot wall unless it is long and doesn't have other walls teeing off
from it.

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On May 2, 8:27*am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
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Typically, how many horizontal studs were used ca 1965:
One near ceiling, one in middle and one near floor?

Yes, that is pretty standard with platform framing. * Top and bottom plates
and in the center, a fire stop. *They are often staggered along the center
to make nailing easier.

ummm....double top plates?

On May 2, 7:55*am, wrote:
Typically, how many horizontal studs were used ca 1965:
One near ceiling, one in middle and one near floor?


Just an FYI...

If it's horizontal, it ain't a stud.

A plate? Perhaps. Blocking? Maybe.

But a "Stud"? Nope.

Studs be vertical.

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On May 2, 7:55 am, wrote:
Typically, how many horizontal studs were used ca 1965:
One near ceiling, one in middle and one near floor?


Just an FYI...

If it's horizontal, it ain't a stud.

A plate? Perhaps. Blocking? Maybe.

But a "Stud"? Nope.

Studs be vertical.

Around here they're called "fire stops" and they're a pain
in the buttocks when you have to install new wiring.

TDD

On Sun, 02 May 2010 14:47:05 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On May 2, 7:55 am, wrote:
Typically, how many horizontal studs were used ca 1965:
One near ceiling, one in middle and one near floor?


Just an FYI...

If it's horizontal, it ain't a stud.

A plate? Perhaps. Blocking? Maybe.

But a "Stud"? Nope.

Studs be vertical.

Around here they're called "fire stops" and they're a pain
in the buttocks when you have to install new wiring.

I have them in my garage walls (don't know about the house, yet). They are a
PITA, but I think I found the trick with the last 220V outlet I put in (dust
collector). I drilled through the plate from above, then up from the hole for
the box, using a flexible wiring bit, then used a fish-rod[*] from the top. It
was a piece of cake to hit the hole in the blocking. Of course it would be
harder in an insulated wall (real hard with the cellulose fill I have).
[*] a multi-piece fiberglass rod, sorta like a fishing rod, made for the
purpose.

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sun, 02 May 2010 14:47:05 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On May 2, 7:55 am, wrote:
Typically, how many horizontal studs were used ca 1965:
One near ceiling, one in middle and one near floor?

Just an FYI...

If it's horizontal, it ain't a stud.

A plate? Perhaps. Blocking? Maybe.

But a "Stud"? Nope.

Studs be vertical.
Around here they're called "fire stops" and they're a pain
in the buttocks when you have to install new wiring.

I have them in my garage walls (don't know about the house, yet). They are a
PITA, but I think I found the trick with the last 220V outlet I put in (dust
collector). I drilled through the plate from above, then up from the hole for
the box, using a flexible wiring bit, then used a fish-rod[*] from the top. It
was a piece of cake to hit the hole in the blocking. Of course it would be
harder in an insulated wall (real hard with the cellulose fill I have).

[*] a multi-piece fiberglass rod, sorta like a fishing rod, made for the
purpose.


I owned an alarm company in another life. I make more money doing data
and commercial phone systems. Businesses aren't as hard to pull wire
in unless some dumbass decides to put an office in an old house! 8-)

TDD

On May 2, 12:47*pm, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On May 2, 7:55 am, wrote:
Typically, how many horizontal studs were used ca 1965:
One near ceiling, one in middle and one near floor?

Just an FYI...

If it's horizontal, it ain't a stud.

A plate? Perhaps. Blocking? Maybe.

But a "Stud"? Nope.

Studs be vertical.

Around here they're called "fire stops" and they're a pain
in the buttocks when you have to install new wiring.

TDD

If they call the horizontal blocking in the middle of the wall a "fire
stop" they are wrong - fire stops they aren't. Someone elsepointed
out that fire stops are at the top and bottom of walls (balloon
framing) and also pointed out why horizontal blocking in ther middle
of a wall does no good as a fire stop.

Harry K

Harry K wrote:
On May 2, 12:47 pm, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On May 2, 7:55 am, wrote:
Typically, how many horizontal studs were used ca 1965:
One near ceiling, one in middle and one near floor?
Just an FYI...
If it's horizontal, it ain't a stud.
A plate? Perhaps. Blocking? Maybe.
But a "Stud"? Nope.
Studs be vertical.
Around here they're called "fire stops" and they're a pain
in the buttocks when you have to install new wiring.

TDD

If they call the horizontal blocking in the middle of the wall a "fire
stop" they are wrong - fire stops they aren't. Someone elsepointed
out that fire stops are at the top and bottom of walls (balloon
framing) and also pointed out why horizontal blocking in ther middle
of a wall does no good as a fire stop.

Harry K

I didn't say they were RIGHT! I said they call them that! GEEZ! 8-)

TDD

"Harry K" wrote

If they call the horizontal blocking in the middle of the wall a "fire
stop" they are wrong - fire stops they aren't. Someone elsepointed
out that fire stops are at the top and bottom of walls (balloon
framing) and also pointed out why horizontal blocking in ther middle
of a wall does no good as a fire stop.

Harry K

Our local building inspector call them fire stops. YOU tell him to use
another term.

Thanks



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On May 3, 1:55*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"Harry K" wrote



If they call the horizontal blocking in the middle of the wall a "fire
stop" they are wrong - fire stops they aren't. *Someone elsepointed
out that fire stops are at the top and bottom of walls (balloon
framing) and also pointed out why horizontal blocking in ther middle
of a wall does no good as a fire stop.

Harry K

Our local building inspector call them fire stops. * YOU tell him to use
another term.

Sounds like he needs to be fired.

Harry K

On Sun, 02 May 2010 14:47:05 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On May 2, 7:55 am, wrote:
Typically, how many horizontal studs were used ca 1965:
One near ceiling, one in middle and one near floor?


Just an FYI...

If it's horizontal, it ain't a stud.

A plate? Perhaps. Blocking? Maybe.

But a "Stud"? Nope.

Studs be vertical.

Around here they're called "fire stops" and they're a pain
in the buttocks when you have to install new wiring.

Yeah, I still have a bunch of wires coming out of the wall above one,
and going back into the wall 6 inches lower. Some day I'll fix it, or
the new owner might.

TDD