As I posted elsewhere, I am thinking of at least installing it on my
inside ceiling. Typically I think each piece overlaps the other whne
going side by side by one rib. Is that correct? Length wise is it
supposed to overlap and does it look right if it does? I have a 30
feet long ceiling. Obviously 30 foot pieces would be ideal, but
transporting it and installing it might be a problem.

Also I am finding out my truses are not "exactly" 48 inches. Some 49,
etc.

What would be the best way to go here?

On Apr 28, 8:16*am, stryped wrote:
As I posted elsewhere, I am thinking of at least installing it on my
inside ceiling. Typically I think each piece overlaps the other whne
going side by side by one rib. Is that correct? Length wise is it
supposed to overlap and does it look right if it does? I have a 30
feet long ceiling. Obviously 30 foot pieces would be ideal, but
transporting it and installing it might be a problem.

Also I am finding out my truses are not "exactly" 48 inches. Some 49,
etc.

What would be the best way to go here?

Siding installed on a ceiling with 48 inches between the joists wil
sag badly.

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 05:45:57 -0700 (PDT), jamesgangnc
wrote:

On Apr 28, 8:16*am, stryped wrote:
As I posted elsewhere, I am thinking of at least installing it on my
inside ceiling. Typically I think each piece overlaps the other whne
going side by side by one rib. Is that correct? Length wise is it
supposed to overlap and does it look right if it does? I have a 30
feet long ceiling. Obviously 30 foot pieces would be ideal, but
transporting it and installing it might be a problem.

Also I am finding out my truses are not "exactly" 48 inches. Some 49,
etc.

What would be the best way to go here?

Siding installed on a ceiling with 48 inches between the joists wil
sag badly.

I would also be concerned about years of dust, a few bird nests and a
squirrel or two making the sheets heavy enough to pull through the
screws and come down on my head.

Metal makes a good roof-- and maybe even fair siding. But i think
using it for interior walls and ceilings is a bad idea.

Jim

On Apr 28, 7:45*am, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Apr 28, 8:16*am, stryped wrote:

As I posted elsewhere, I am thinking of at least installing it on my
inside ceiling. Typically I think each piece overlaps the other whne
going side by side by one rib. Is that correct? Length wise is it
supposed to overlap and does it look right if it does? I have a 30
feet long ceiling. Obviously 30 foot pieces would be ideal, but
transporting it and installing it might be a problem.

Also I am finding out my truses are not "exactly" 48 inches. Some 49,
etc.

What would be the best way to go here?

Siding installed on a ceiling with 48 inches between the joists wil
sag badly.

I was told by the metal supplier they do it all the time and it does
not sag. The truss manufacturer says drywall is too heavy.

On Apr 28, 9:44*am, stryped wrote:
On Apr 28, 7:45*am, jamesgangnc wrote:





On Apr 28, 8:16*am, stryped wrote:

As I posted elsewhere, I am thinking of at least installing it on my
inside ceiling. Typically I think each piece overlaps the other whne
going side by side by one rib. Is that correct? Length wise is it
supposed to overlap and does it look right if it does? I have a 30
feet long ceiling. Obviously 30 foot pieces would be ideal, but
transporting it and installing it might be a problem.

Also I am finding out my truses are not "exactly" 48 inches. Some 49,
etc.

What would be the best way to go here?

Siding installed on a ceiling with 48 inches between the joists wil
sag badly.

I was told by the metal supplier they do it all the time and it does
not sag. The truss manufacturer says drywall is too heavy.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You have trusses that are not capable of supporting drywall and are
being used for a roof? Sounds like your overall plan was a bad one.
You built something that is not really suitable to what you want the
final product to be. Imho, siding installed as a ceiling is going to
look like crap. And is about the least insulating thing you could do
if you're still trying to heat and cool this garage. How about
suspension ceiling. You can hang it just a few inches below your
trusses and you'll get a little insulating factor out of the tiles.

On Apr 28, 10:22*am, jamesgangnc wrote:
You have trusses that are not capable of supporting drywall and are
being used for a roof? *Sounds like your overall plan was a bad one.

OMFG. Tell me you did not just say that...

The concern is the DRYWALL, not the trusses.

When they drywalled the addition on my parents' house back in 1991,
the ceiling sagged between the trusses, and they were on 16"
centers!!!

Can you imagine hanging a drywall ceiling from trusses on 48" centers?
The ceiling would look like an inverted ski mogul hill after about 24
hours.

In article , wrote:
On Apr 28, 10:22=A0am, jamesgangnc wrote:
You have trusses that are not capable of supporting drywall and are
being used for a roof? =A0Sounds like your overall plan was a bad one.

OMFG. Tell me you did not just say that...

The concern is the DRYWALL, not the trusses.

When they drywalled the addition on my parents' house back in 1991,
the ceiling sagged between the trusses, and they were on 16"
centers!!!

Can you imagine hanging a drywall ceiling from trusses on 48" centers?
The ceiling would look like an inverted ski mogul hill after about 24
hours.

And after 72 hours, the drywall would all be on the floor, after the fasteners
tore out the edges... g

wrote:
On Apr 28, 10:22 am, jamesgangnc wrote:
You have trusses that are not capable of supporting drywall and are
being used for a roof? Sounds like your overall plan was a bad one.

OMFG. Tell me you did not just say that...

The concern is the DRYWALL, not the trusses.

While agreed 4' OC is certainly not enough support for drywall, it's
quite possible the lower chord of an engineered truss that is perfectly
adequate for the roof load is not designed for the bearing weight of
drywall.

....

--

stryped wrote:
....

I was told by the metal supplier they do it all the time and it does
not sag. The truss manufacturer says drywall is too heavy.

It's done by going perpendicular across the trusses or adding purlins
same way as a wall; your choice. The rigidity in metal is lengthwise
across the corrugation or ridge; lengthwise it has no resistance to
bending much at all and would be quite limber and difficult to install
w/o support.

I'd suggest go to a manufacturer's web site pick a product and get their
recommendations on installation for the application envisioned (or start
w/ the applications and get recommendation on product(s) _and_
installation actually makes more sense).

--

On Apr 28, 9:47*am, dpb wrote:
stryped wrote:

...

I was told by the metal supplier they do it all the time and it does
not sag. The truss manufacturer says drywall is too heavy.

It's done by going perpendicular across the trusses or adding purlins
same way as a wall; your choice. *The rigidity in metal is lengthwise
across the corrugation or ridge; lengthwise it has no resistance to
bending much at all and would be quite limber and difficult to install
w/o support.

I'd suggest go to a manufacturer's web site pick a product and get their
recommendations on installation for the application envisioned (or start
w/ the applications and get recommendation on product(s) _and_
installation actually makes more sense).

--

I would be going perpendicular to the trusses. I actually have small
furring strips between the russes every two feet or so to hold the
insulation in, but not sure if they are spaced right to use as
additional nailers without it fallin gon a rib or something.

stryped wrote:
On Apr 28, 9:47 am, dpb wrote:
stryped wrote:

...

I was told by the metal supplier they do it all the time and it does
not sag. The truss manufacturer says drywall is too heavy.
It's done by going perpendicular across the trusses or adding purlins
same way as a wall; your choice. The rigidity in metal is lengthwise
across the corrugation or ridge; lengthwise it has no resistance to
bending much at all and would be quite limber and difficult to install
w/o support.

I'd suggest go to a manufacturer's web site pick a product and get their
recommendations on installation for the application envisioned (or start
w/ the applications and get recommendation on product(s) _and_
installation actually makes more sense).

--

I would be going perpendicular to the trusses. I actually have small
furring strips between the russes every two feet or so to hold the
insulation in, but not sure if they are spaced right to use as
additional nailers without it fallin gon a rib or something.


Again, I'd ask the manufacturer of the product in question -- it
wouldn't be adequate for exterior use from wind uplift, water-sealing,
etc., etc., but for simply hanging an interior ceiling panel could
probably work ok since you can then fasten across the panel at the
truss. It would ring like a drum, of course, over that 4-ft span but it
would likely be adequate mechanically. This again, of course, would be
specific to any particular product selection; undoubtedly one could find
some that wouldn't have sufficient support in thinner gauges and less
pronounced rib structures.

I repeat myself, but the folks to answer your question are the
manufacturers of the _particular_ product for the given application...

--

On Apr 28, 8:16*am, stryped wrote:
As I posted elsewhere, I am thinking of at least installing it on my
inside ceiling. Typically I think each piece overlaps the other whne
going side by side by one rib. Is that correct? Length wise is it
supposed to overlap and does it look right if it does? I have a 30
feet long ceiling. Obviously 30 foot pieces would be ideal, but
transporting it and installing it might be a problem.

Also I am finding out my truses are not "exactly" 48 inches. Some 49,
etc.

What would be the best way to go here?

The best way to go is to frame out the rest of your ceiling with 2x4's
and put wall board on it. Particularly if this is the same garage
that you want to heat/cool.

In article , stryped wrote:
As I posted elsewhere, I am thinking of at least installing it on my
inside ceiling. Typically I think each piece overlaps the other whne
going side by side by one rib. Is that correct?

Stryped, have you ever heard of Google?

Length wise is it
supposed to overlap and does it look right if it does? I have a 30
feet long ceiling. Obviously 30 foot pieces would be ideal, but
transporting it and installing it might be a problem.

Also I am finding out my truses are not "exactly" 48 inches. Some 49,
etc.

What would be the best way to go here?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+is+metal+siding+installed

On Apr 28, 10:04*am, (Doug Miller) wrote:

etc.

What would be the best way to go here?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+is+metal+siding+installed

Surely, you jest. Give stryped a hint like that and he'll be back
asking if he should believe what he might find.........

"cavedweller" wrote in message
...
On Apr 28, 10:04 am, (Doug Miller) wrote:

etc.

What would be the best way to go here?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+is+metal+siding+installed

Surely, you jest. Give stryped a hint like that and he'll be back
asking if he should believe what he might find.........

Really...He keeps starting a new thread on the same thing , each time adding
or making something up to debunk any suggestions offered...He must figure if
he asks it enough he will get the answer he wants eventually...LOL...I'm
done with him...LOL...Beyond help and in WAY over his head...

On Apr 28, 10:04*am, (Doug Miller) wrote:
Stryped, have you ever heard of Google?

Give it up. He's going to open a new thread for each nail he pounds.