Have you ever built a battery drill, using a dead
cordless drill, and external battery pack? For a
while, I was saving a 12 volt drill that was dead.

I save it, becuase I figured I could put a length of
zipcord on it, and run it to a lighter plug. Power it
from the socket of a battery jumper pack.

Most Sub-C that I've found in drills are 1600 mA
hours, Compared to the cheap Rayovac NiMH AA
cells, which are about 2,000. could use a 12 volt
pack that runs AA cells (eight AA cells, Rat Shack
used to have these) and actually have more power
than the original pack. Plus, being able to test and
replace individual cells as they failed.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On Apr 9, 7:47*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Have you ever built a battery drill, using a dead
cordless drill, and external battery pack? For a
while, I was saving a 12 volt drill that was dead.

I save it, becuase I figured I could put a length of
zipcord on it, and run it to a lighter plug. Power it
from the socket of a battery jumper pack.

Most Sub-C that I've found in drills are 1600 mA
hours, Compared to the cheap Rayovac NiMH *AA
cells, which are about 2,000. *could use a 12 volt
pack that runs AA cells (eight AA cells, Rat Shack
used to have these) and actually have more power
than the original pack. Plus, being able to test and
replace individual cells as they failed.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

Yes
BTDT.....didnt work

others will explain why

cheers
Bob

On Apr 9, 12:56�pm, DD_BobK wrote:
On Apr 9, 7:47�am, "Stormin Mormon"





wrote:
Have you ever built a battery drill, using a dead
cordless drill, and external battery pack? For a
while, I was saving a 12 volt drill that was dead.

I save it, becuase I figured I could put a length of
zipcord on it, and run it to a lighter plug. Power it
from the socket of a battery jumper pack.

Most Sub-C that I've found in drills are 1600 mA
hours, Compared to the cheap Rayovac NiMH �AA
cells, which are about 2,000. �could use a 12 volt
pack that runs AA cells (eight AA cells, Rat Shack
used to have these) and actually have more power
than the original pack. Plus, being able to test and
replace individual cells as they failed.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
�www.lds.org
.

Yes
BTDT.....didnt work

others will explain why

cheers
Bob- Hide quoted text -

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PRIMECELLCOM rebuilds your old pack with excellent high capacity
cells, far better than your original ones. quality rebuild with welded
battery straps.

very affordable the ones i sent came back looking almost like new,
they removed graftti, saying dead and must of polisjhed the packs.

People write good reviews of the company. I've got a couple
12 volt drills from Harbor Freight, that I paid $14.99 each,
for the drills. I wonder how much it would cost to have the
batteries rebuilt?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


wrote in message
...


PRIMECELLCOM rebuilds your old pack with excellent high
capacity
cells, far better than your original ones. quality rebuild
with welded
battery straps.

very affordable the ones i sent came back looking almost
like new,
they removed graftti, saying dead and must of polisjhed the
packs.

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
People write good reviews of the company. I've got a couple
12 volt drills from Harbor Freight, that I paid $14.99 each,
for the drills. I wonder how much it would cost to have the
batteries rebuilt?

The problem with HF drills is that the chargers suck.

They are not automatic in that they will over charge the batteries and kill
them, so alternate methods of charging should be used. The problem with
that idea is by the time you add the cost of rebuilding the cheap battery
packs, then getting a good charger it costs you more than a good drill
would.

for as much as you need a cordless drill, why not pay once for a good Li ion
with lifetime warrantee?

--

__
Roger Shoaf

Important factors in selecting a mate:
1] Depth of gene pool
2] Position on the food chain.

On Apr 10, 3:02*am, "Roger Shoaf" wrote:

Per a previuos posting .....................................

Cordless tools have been around for quite a while now.

So you'd think that some agreement on standard shapes and sizes would
have been arrived at?

And before everybody jumps all over that comment; how come we have
pretty well agreed standards for light bulbs, fluorescent tubes, plugs/
sockets, water pipe sizes, alkaline and rechargeable cells (AA, AAA,
D, C) etc. How come all automobile (almost all anyway) are 12 volts
and mostly negative grounded. Telephone dials and/or push button are
much the same, world wide. Even debit cards and credit cards are
somewhat compatible (often world wide). Tyre sizes and ratings follow
standards.. Also within areas of the world radios signals and TV
channels are coordinated ............ you don't have to buy a separate
TV set for each North American network and your 115 volt shaver will
work most places, at least in North and South America from the
Canadian Arctic/Alaska to Tierra Del Fuego! Before digital cameras,
film came in certain 'standard sizes'; while in the 'early days', my
grandfather told me some people used to make their own negative
photographic film plates by coating chemicals onto glass plates, in a
dark room, (black and white then) no colour of course, until around
the 1930s? And then developing their own negatives and pictures.

It's the old 'captive' and short sighted market idea that, among other
things, makes American pharmaceutical drugs among the most expensive
in the world!

For many quick jobs around the house and especially at the bench the
old reliable 115 volt hand drill (BandD $9 at K Mart many, many years
ago) is most convenient. It's no heavier and no fiddling around to see
which of at least two batteries is charged etc.

But later; batteries age, so it becomes cheaper to get a whole new
'cheapie' drill set with different batteries and a different charger
than buy a replacement battery pack/s. It's shame (criminal) how much
stuff like that is scrapped!

How does this ISO (Standards) work. Could it be applied to cordless
batteries?

Of course, your farsighted quality idea is excellent. What
was going through my mind, is that once in a while I need to
turn screws. I use cordless drill, to take things apart, or
do replacements. I've replaced a couple electric sockets
recently, and plan to do a bunch more. Those #6-32 screws
have a LOT of thread, and the old analog screw drivers get
boring after a while.

It would be nice to have another cordless drill for screw
turning. I've got two in the van, and one in the Blazer (the
one in the blazer has the charge plug with it). I did end up
buying a power screw driver with alkaline AA cells for about
eight bucks at Walmart.

The drill with external battery pack is less convenient to
use, but it's nice thought. Being able to replace cells as
they go bad.

As to the HF drill. When it goes low, I put the battery pack
on charge for two hours. I'm not sure how old the drill is,
but it's got to be two years or more. Going strong. Yes, the
chargers are stupid.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Roger Shoaf" wrote in message
...

"Stormin Mormon" wrote
in message
...
People write good reviews of the company. I've got a
couple
12 volt drills from Harbor Freight, that I paid $14.99
each,
for the drills. I wonder how much it would cost to have
the
batteries rebuilt?

The problem with HF drills is that the chargers suck.

They are not automatic in that they will over charge the
batteries and kill
them, so alternate methods of charging should be used. The
problem with
that idea is by the time you add the cost of rebuilding the
cheap battery
packs, then getting a good charger it costs you more than a
good drill
would.

for as much as you need a cordless drill, why not pay once
for a good Li ion
with lifetime warrantee?

--

__
Roger Shoaf

Important factors in selecting a mate:
1] Depth of gene pool
2] Position on the food chain.

I'd like to see a cordless drill that takes NiMH AA cells.
Some kind of holder that takes common cells that can either
be charged with a wall wart charge plug. Or taken out for
individual charge.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"terry" wrote in message
...
On Apr 10, 3:02 am, "Roger Shoaf"
wrote:

Per a previuos posting .....................................

Cordless tools have been around for quite a while now.

So you'd think that some agreement on standard shapes and
sizes would
have been arrived at?

And before everybody jumps all over that comment; how come
we have
pretty well agreed standards for light bulbs, fluorescent
tubes, plugs/
sockets, water pipe sizes, alkaline and rechargeable cells
(AA, AAA,
D, C) etc. How come all automobile (almost all anyway) are
12 volts
and mostly negative grounded. Telephone dials and/or push
button are
much the same, world wide. Even debit cards and credit cards
are
somewhat compatible (often world wide). Tyre sizes and
ratings follow
standards.. Also within areas of the world radios signals
and TV
channels are coordinated ............ you don't have to buy
a separate
TV set for each North American network and your 115 volt
shaver will
work most places, at least in North and South America from
the
Canadian Arctic/Alaska to Tierra Del Fuego! Before digital
cameras,
film came in certain 'standard sizes'; while in the 'early
days', my
grandfather told me some people used to make their own
negative
photographic film plates by coating chemicals onto glass
plates, in a
dark room, (black and white then) no colour of course,
until around
the 1930s? And then developing their own negatives and
pictures.

It's the old 'captive' and short sighted market idea that,
among other
things, makes American pharmaceutical drugs among the most
expensive
in the world!

For many quick jobs around the house and especially at the
bench the
old reliable 115 volt hand drill (BandD $9 at K Mart many,
many years
ago) is most convenient. It's no heavier and no fiddling
around to see
which of at least two batteries is charged etc.

But later; batteries age, so it becomes cheaper to get a
whole new
'cheapie' drill set with different batteries and a different
charger
than buy a replacement battery pack/s. It's shame (criminal)
how much
stuff like that is scrapped!

How does this ISO (Standards) work. Could it be applied to
cordless
batteries?

On Apr 9, 5:18�pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
People write good reviews of the company. I've got a couple
12 volt drills from Harbor Freight, that I paid $14.99 each,
for the drills. I wonder how much it would cost to have the
batteries rebuilt?

--
Christopher A. Young

True the cost is more than you paid for a brand new drill, but the
primecell standard replacement is far better than your original
battery pack. My best friend hads primecell rebiuil;d one harbor
freight pack and he is amazed at how well it works with 4 or 5 times
the original batter operation.

he is so satisfied he is planning on getting all his batteries rebuilt


from primecells website
12.0 Volts
Replace NICD with high capacity upgrade
$ 33.00

12.0 Volts
Replace NIMH with high capacity upgrade
$ 47.00

On 04/10/10 03:04 am, terry wrote:

Cordless tools have been around for quite a while now.

So you'd think that some agreement on standard shapes and sizes would
have been arrived at?

Ryobi, Ridgid and Milwaukee are all subsidiaries of the same parent
company, but even those batteries are *not* interchangeable.

Perce

I've got a Makita 14.4 batter that I someday will send in.
For now, I'm getting by with out it, and money is tight.
Thanks to the Obama ecnomy.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


wrote in message
...
On Apr 9, 5:18�pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
People write good reviews of the company. I've got a
couple
12 volt drills from Harbor Freight, that I paid $14.99
each,
for the drills. I wonder how much it would cost to have
the
batteries rebuilt?

--
Christopher A. Young

True the cost is more than you paid for a brand new drill,
but the
primecell standard replacement is far better than your
original
battery pack. My best friend hads primecell rebiuil;d one
harbor
freight pack and he is amazed at how well it works with 4 or
5 times
the original batter operation.

he is so satisfied he is planning on getting all his
batteries rebuilt


from primecells website
12.0 Volts
Replace NICD with high capacity upgrade
$ 33.00

12.0 Volts
Replace NIMH with high capacity upgrade
$ 47.00

Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 04/10/10 03:04 am, terry wrote:

Cordless tools have been around for quite a while now.

So you'd think that some agreement on standard shapes and sizes would
have been arrived at?

Ryobi, Ridgid and Milwaukee are all subsidiaries of the same parent
company, but even those batteries are *not* interchangeable.

While true, not of much use to demonstrate anything about corporate
governance design of disparate products since TTI didn't exist until
1985 and didn't acquire Milwaukee until 2005, far too late to have had
any influence on lack of divergence in battery designs/pack configurations.

--

Roger Shoaf wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
People write good reviews of the company. I've got a couple
12 volt drills from Harbor Freight, that I paid $14.99 each,
for the drills. I wonder how much it would cost to have the
batteries rebuilt?

The problem with HF drills is that the chargers suck.

They are not automatic in that they will over charge the batteries and kill
them, so alternate methods of charging should be used.

I put the cheap "wall wort" type chargers on a timer for a few hours
when dead. Then it turns them on again for about 15 minutes a day.
Works great. A 5 year old B&D 12volt I bought in an emergency still
works great on the original battery.