On 2010-04-03, JimT wrote:

Where did you see a picture of them laying on top? I found something
(somewhere) that shows exactly how to install them. I'll admit it's hard to
decipher from looking at the product.

It must have been the pictures on the box. I clearly remember thinking
that it might be a better idea to tuck them under, but I decided to go
with what was pictured instead.

Regardless, the warpage of the plastic suggests that it wouldn't last
many years, at least not the dark color ones, and not under the direct
sunlight here around my house.

Check out the PDF file at Amerimax.....Clearly tucked under per mfg.

There were no instructions included with the boxed set, and the pictures
were misleading, so it's odd that they have taken the time to compile a
manual without either distributing it *or* indicating its presence on
the package in some way.

Oh well, it's their loss.

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On 2010-04-03, JimT wrote:

Where did you see a picture of them laying on top? I found something
(somewhere) that shows exactly how to install them. I'll admit it's hard
to
decipher from looking at the product.

It must have been the pictures on the box. I clearly remember thinking
that it might be a better idea to tuck them under, but I decided to go
with what was pictured instead.

Regardless, the warpage of the plastic suggests that it wouldn't last
many years, at least not the dark color ones, and not under the direct
sunlight here around my house.

Check out the PDF file at Amerimax.....Clearly tucked under per mfg.

There were no instructions included with the boxed set, and the pictures
were misleading, so it's odd that they have taken the time to compile a
manual without either distributing it *or* indicating its presence on
the package in some way.

Oh well, it's their loss.

I agree. I thought it might be a liability issue. I know if I asked my
roofer he'd prefer I didn't use these. I just couldn't resist due to the
price and what seemed like the ease of installation, We live in Austin
(Central TX) where we have hellacious summers. My neighbor's brown ones held
up fine until he got his roof re-done last spring. That summer they started
warping because the roofers just placed them back on the gutters. He's since
had someone come out and fix them for him and they went right back in and
the warp doesn't seem to matter. I'd of done it for him if he wasn't such an
ass.

He had his up for 6+ years prior and I didn't notice any problem at all. In
fact they look sharp. I get a good view cause he's downhill. So the jury is
still out on how long they'll last. I can attest to their strength because I
had to really fight to get them in and not one of them broke. So it's very
tough plastic. I had to push hard to get them to clip properly. If they are
installed properly they look very professional. I recommend them with the
installation caveat. The price is right. I did about 55' for about $35.
Maybe 8 hours of hard labor.

I have doubts roofers would approve of the metal ones either as they rest on
the shingle. They have a more visible profile too. The plastic ones lay flat
so, on my house, you can't see them at all from the street. I'm "pleased"
with the results. If their was ANYTHING wrong with them SWMBO would make me
do it over. I'm well trained that way.

On 2010-04-04, JimT wrote:

I have doubts roofers would approve of the metal ones either as they rest on
the shingle. They have a more visible profile too. The plastic ones lay flat
so, on my house, you can't see them at all from the street. I'm "pleased"
with the results. If their was ANYTHING wrong with them SWMBO would make me
do it over. I'm well trained that way.

I beat those metal ones flat so I could tuck them under the shingles.

It looked pretty obvious stuff would pile up behind it if left
bent, and I not longer had faith in the manufactures recommendations, so
I just did it the way that seemed best.

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On 2010-04-04, JimT wrote:

I have doubts roofers would approve of the metal ones either as they rest
on
the shingle. They have a more visible profile too. The plastic ones lay
flat
so, on my house, you can't see them at all from the street. I'm
"pleased"
with the results. If their was ANYTHING wrong with them SWMBO would make
me
do it over. I'm well trained that way.

I beat those metal ones flat so I could tuck them under the shingles.

It looked pretty obvious stuff would pile up behind it if left
bent, and I not longer had faith in the manufactures recommendations, so
I just did it the way that seemed best.

FWIW: I'd be concerned about the shingles being lifted too high. Could
develop a leak near the edge. I went with the plastic ones because they
barely lift the shingle.

On 2010-04-05, JimT wrote:

FWIW: I'd be concerned about the shingles being lifted too high. Could
develop a leak near the edge. I went with the plastic ones because they
barely lift the shingle.

I bent them completely flat, so they don't lift the singles at all.