Just before winter hit my old Maple Chase thermostat died.

So I thought I'd go out and buy a big brand name... Honeywell

Purchased 5-1-1 Day Programmable Thermostat - RTH6400D

To my surprise this thermostat didn't have an option to set the
temperature difference to startup. The old Maple Chase I think had a
difference variance to 1 to 3 degrees.

So now using the new thermostat I believe the furnace cycles to
often. Keeps the house at a more stable temperature level, at the
expense of the furnace kicking on and off.

I've looked around and found White-Rodgers/Emerson 1F97-0671 7 Day
5/1/1 Day Non-Programmable

This thermostat looks like it only has a variance of -

Heat (SS1, MS2) 0.4°F 0.6°F 1.7°F
Cool (SS1, MS2) 0.9°F 1.2°F 1.7°F

Any body have any suggestions.

Brent Bolin wrote:
Just before winter hit my old Maple Chase thermostat died.

So I thought I'd go out and buy a big brand name... Honeywell

Purchased 5-1-1 Day Programmable Thermostat - RTH6400D

To my surprise this thermostat didn't have an option to set the
temperature difference to startup. The old Maple Chase I think had a
difference variance to 1 to 3 degrees.

So now using the new thermostat I believe the furnace cycles to
often. Keeps the house at a more stable temperature level, at the
expense of the furnace kicking on and off.

I've looked around and found White-Rodgers/Emerson 1F97-0671 7 Day
5/1/1 Day Non-Programmable

This thermostat looks like it only has a variance of -

Heat (SS1, MS2) 0.4°F 0.6°F 1.7°F
Cool (SS1, MS2) 0.9°F 1.2°F 1.7°F

Any body have any suggestions.
Hmmm,
You want +/- 3 deg. swing? Isn't that too much? If furnace cycles
on/off too frequently you may have to beef up your house insulation.
Our Honeywell Vision Pro 8000 thermostat and furnace, a/c system
cycles no more than 3 times an hour even in dead coldest winter days.
Same with a/c. Or your furnace may be over sized(bad thing)

On Apr 1, 4:45*pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
Brent Bolin wrote:
Just before winter hit my old Maple Chase thermostat died.

So I thought I'd go out and buy a big brand name... Honeywell

Purchased *5-1-1 Day Programmable Thermostat - RTH6400D

To my surprise this thermostat didn't have an option to set the
temperature difference to startup. *The old Maple Chase I think had a
difference variance to 1 to 3 degrees.

So now using the new thermostat I believe the furnace cycles to
often. *Keeps the house at a more stable temperature level, at the
expense of the furnace kicking on and off.

I've looked around and found White-Rodgers/Emerson 1F97-0671 7 Day
5/1/1 Day Non-Programmable

This thermostat looks like it only has a variance of -

Heat (SS1, MS2) 0.4°F 0.6°F 1.7°F
Cool (SS1, MS2) 0.9°F 1.2°F 1.7°F

Any body have any suggestions.

Hmmm,
You want +/- 3 deg. swing? Isn't that too much? If furnace cycles
on/off too frequently you may have to beef up your house insulation.
Our Honeywell Vision Pro 8000 thermostat and furnace, a/c system
cycles no more than 3 times an hour even in dead coldest winter days.
Same with a/c. Or your furnace may be over sized(bad thing)

Not sure if I would use +/- 3 setting, but maybe +/- 2

I did blow in about 6-8 inches of Owens Corning AtticCat in the attic
this spring. Can't do much about the walls without a big effort.

Just seems to me the furnace kicks on and off more then it should.

Brent Bolin wrote:
On Apr 1, 4:45 pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
Brent Bolin wrote:
Just before winter hit my old Maple Chase thermostat died.

So I thought I'd go out and buy a big brand name... Honeywell

Purchased 5-1-1 Day Programmable Thermostat - RTH6400D

To my surprise this thermostat didn't have an option to set the
temperature difference to startup. The old Maple Chase I think had a
difference variance to 1 to 3 degrees.

So now using the new thermostat I believe the furnace cycles to
often. Keeps the house at a more stable temperature level, at the
expense of the furnace kicking on and off.

I've looked around and found White-Rodgers/Emerson 1F97-0671 7 Day
5/1/1 Day Non-Programmable

This thermostat looks like it only has a variance of -

Heat (SS1, MS2) 0.4°F 0.6°F 1.7°F
Cool (SS1, MS2) 0.9°F 1.2°F 1.7°F

Any body have any suggestions.

Hmmm,
You want +/- 3 deg. swing? Isn't that too much? If furnace cycles
on/off too frequently you may have to beef up your house insulation.
Our Honeywell Vision Pro 8000 thermostat and furnace, a/c system
cycles no more than 3 times an hour even in dead coldest winter days.
Same with a/c. Or your furnace may be over sized(bad thing)

Not sure if I would use +/- 3 setting, but maybe +/- 2

I did blow in about 6-8 inches of Owens Corning AtticCat in the attic
this spring. Can't do much about the walls without a big effort.

Just seems to me the furnace kicks on and off more then it should.

It could be that your thermostat is too close to a heat register. Closing that
register might help.

On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:06:00 -0700, "Bob F"
wrote:

Just seems to me the furnace kicks on and off more then it should.

It could be that your thermostat is too close to a heat register. Closing that
register might help.

Or look behind the T-stat. A hole larger than necessary for the wire
needs to be sealed (caulk) around the wire. Heat will travel in the
wall cavity and cause a T-stat to act intermittently.

On Apr 1, 9:06*pm, "Bob F" wrote:
Brent Bolin wrote:
On Apr 1, 4:45 pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
Brent Bolin wrote:
Just before winter hit my old Maple Chase thermostat died.

So I thought I'd go out and buy a big brand name... Honeywell

Purchased 5-1-1 Day Programmable Thermostat - RTH6400D

To my surprise this thermostat didn't have an option to set the
temperature difference to startup. The old Maple Chase I think had a
difference variance to 1 to 3 degrees.

So now using the new thermostat I believe the furnace cycles to
often. Keeps the house at a more stable temperature level, at the
expense of the furnace kicking on and off.

I've looked around and found White-Rodgers/Emerson 1F97-0671 7 Day
5/1/1 Day Non-Programmable

This thermostat looks like it only has a variance of -

Heat (SS1, MS2) 0.4°F 0.6°F 1.7°F
Cool (SS1, MS2) 0.9°F 1.2°F 1.7°F

Any body have any suggestions.

Hmmm,
You want +/- 3 deg. swing? Isn't that too much? If furnace cycles
on/off too frequently you may have to beef up your house insulation.
Our Honeywell Vision Pro 8000 thermostat and furnace, a/c system
cycles no more than 3 times an hour even in dead coldest winter days.
Same with a/c. Or your furnace may be over sized(bad thing)

Not sure if I would use +/- 3 setting, but maybe +/- 2

I did blow in about 6-8 inches of Owens Corning AtticCat in the attic
this spring. *Can't do much about the walls without a big effort.

Just seems to me the furnace kicks on and off more then it should.

It could be that your thermostat is too close to a heat register. Closing that
register might help.

Yeah, I had that problem, closed off a register for years, this heped
some, then found the diode that is used as a heat sensor and put a
blanket of white glue on it. It doesn't see the temp changes quite as
quickly. This in combination of closing the register worked pretty
good. Eventually I had to get a new HVAC sytem and relocated the
T'stat at that time..


Jimmie

JIMMIE wrote:
On Apr 1, 9:06 pm, "Bob wrote:
Brent Bolin wrote:
On Apr 1, 4:45 pm, Tony wrote:
Brent Bolin wrote:
Just before winter hit my old Maple Chase thermostat died.

So I thought I'd go out and buy a big brand name... Honeywell

Purchased 5-1-1 Day Programmable Thermostat - RTH6400D

To my surprise this thermostat didn't have an option to set the
temperature difference to startup. The old Maple Chase I think had a
difference variance to 1 to 3 degrees.

So now using the new thermostat I believe the furnace cycles to
often. Keeps the house at a more stable temperature level, at the
expense of the furnace kicking on and off.

I've looked around and found White-Rodgers/Emerson 1F97-0671 7 Day
5/1/1 Day Non-Programmable

This thermostat looks like it only has a variance of -

Heat (SS1, MS2) 0.4°F 0.6°F 1.7°F
Cool (SS1, MS2) 0.9°F 1.2°F 1.7°F

Any body have any suggestions.

Hmmm,
You want +/- 3 deg. swing? Isn't that too much? If furnace cycles
on/off too frequently you may have to beef up your house insulation.
Our Honeywell Vision Pro 8000 thermostat and furnace, a/c system
cycles no more than 3 times an hour even in dead coldest winter days.
Same with a/c. Or your furnace may be over sized(bad thing)

Not sure if I would use +/- 3 setting, but maybe +/- 2

I did blow in about 6-8 inches of Owens Corning AtticCat in the attic
this spring. Can't do much about the walls without a big effort.

Just seems to me the furnace kicks on and off more then it should.

It could be that your thermostat is too close to a heat register. Closing that
register might help.

Yeah, I had that problem, closed off a register for years, this heped
some, then found the diode that is used as a heat sensor and put a
blanket of white glue on it. It doesn't see the temp changes quite as
quickly. This in combination of closing the register worked pretty
good. Eventually I had to get a new HVAC sytem and relocated the
T'stat at that time..


Jimmie

Hi,
One reason I have a wireless 'stat. I can put it any where in the house.

On Apr 1, 10:01*pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
JIMMIE wrote:
On Apr 1, 9:06 pm, "Bob *wrote:
Brent Bolin wrote:
On Apr 1, 4:45 pm, Tony *wrote:
Brent Bolin wrote:
Just before winter hit my old Maple Chase thermostat died.

So I thought I'd go out and buy a big brand name... Honeywell

Purchased 5-1-1 Day Programmable Thermostat - RTH6400D

To my surprise this thermostat didn't have an option to set the
temperature difference to startup. The old Maple Chase I think had a
difference variance to 1 to 3 degrees.

So now using the new thermostat I believe the furnace cycles to
often. Keeps the house at a more stable temperature level, at the
expense of the furnace kicking on and off.

I've looked around and found White-Rodgers/Emerson 1F97-0671 7 Day
5/1/1 Day Non-Programmable

This thermostat looks like it only has a variance of -

Heat (SS1, MS2) 0.4°F 0.6°F 1.7°F
Cool (SS1, MS2) 0.9°F 1.2°F 1.7°F

Any body have any suggestions.

Hmmm,
You want +/- 3 deg. swing? Isn't that too much? If furnace cycles
on/off too frequently you may have to beef up your house insulation.
Our Honeywell Vision Pro 8000 thermostat and furnace, a/c system
cycles no more than 3 times an hour even in dead coldest winter days..
Same with a/c. Or your furnace may be over sized(bad thing)

Not sure if I would use +/- 3 setting, but maybe +/- 2

I did blow in about 6-8 inches of Owens Corning AtticCat in the attic
this spring. *Can't do much about the walls without a big effort.

Just seems to me the furnace kicks on and off more then it should.

It could be that your thermostat is too close to a heat register. Closing that
register might help.

Yeah, I had that problem, closed off a register for years, this heped
some, then found the diode that is used as a heat sensor and put a
blanket of white glue on it. It doesn't see the temp changes quite as
quickly. This in combination of closing the register worked pretty
good. Eventually I had to get a new HVAC sytem and relocated the
T'stat at that time..

Jimmie

Hi,
One reason I have a wireless 'stat. I can put it any where in the house.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You should be happy that the temperature is more constant.

On Apr 2, 12:19*am, "hr(bob) "
wrote:
On Apr 1, 10:01*pm, Tony Hwang wrote:





JIMMIE wrote:
On Apr 1, 9:06 pm, "Bob *wrote:
Brent Bolin wrote:
On Apr 1, 4:45 pm, Tony *wrote:
Brent Bolin wrote:
Just before winter hit my old Maple Chase thermostat died.

So I thought I'd go out and buy a big brand name... Honeywell

Purchased 5-1-1 Day Programmable Thermostat - RTH6400D

To my surprise this thermostat didn't have an option to set the
temperature difference to startup. The old Maple Chase I think had a
difference variance to 1 to 3 degrees.

So now using the new thermostat I believe the furnace cycles to
often. Keeps the house at a more stable temperature level, at the
expense of the furnace kicking on and off.

I've looked around and found White-Rodgers/Emerson 1F97-0671 7 Day
5/1/1 Day Non-Programmable

This thermostat looks like it only has a variance of -

Heat (SS1, MS2) 0.4°F 0.6°F 1.7°F
Cool (SS1, MS2) 0.9°F 1.2°F 1.7°F

Any body have any suggestions.

Hmmm,
You want +/- 3 deg. swing? Isn't that too much? If furnace cycles
on/off too frequently you may have to beef up your house insulation.

Do you have a house built around 1955-70?
If so, you may have no insulation in the walls, the
gas was more expensive to meter than supply.

Blowing insulation in the walls is not as big a deal
as some think. And certainly not expensive.

On Apr 1, 7:43*pm, Brent Bolin wrote:

I did blow in about 6-8 inches of Owens Corning AtticCat in the attic
this spring. *Can't do much about the walls without a big effort.

On Apr 2, 5:06*am, Michael B wrote:
Do you have a house built around 1955-70?
If so, you may have no insulation in the walls, the
gas was more expensive to meter than supply.

Blowing insulation in the walls is not as big a deal
as some think. And certainly not expensive.

On Apr 1, 7:43*pm, Brent Bolin wrote:



I did blow in about 6-8 inches of Owens Corning AtticCat in the attic
this spring. *Can't do much about the walls without a big effort.

Yes I do. Think the age of the house is 41 years old. When I have
painted in the past I can see insulation close to the power outlets.
So I do believe there is insulation, but probably not very much. Also
no insulation in the crawl space. I have been reluctant to do
anything in the crawl space do to mold.

It's a possibility to look at blowing insulation into the walls.
Probably something I would want to tackle when the next interior pant
party(this summer) happens.

How well does blown in insulation fall down the wall when there is
some existing faced insulation? Note electrical conduit all comes
down the walls from the attic.

terry wrote:
On Apr 2, 12:19 am, "hr(bob)
wrote:
On Apr 1, 10:01 pm, Tony wrote:





JIMMIE wrote:
On Apr 1, 9:06 pm, "Bob wrote:
Brent Bolin wrote:
On Apr 1, 4:45 pm, Tony wrote:
Brent Bolin wrote:
Just before winter hit my old Maple Chase thermostat died.

So I thought I'd go out and buy a big brand name... Honeywell

Purchased 5-1-1 Day Programmable Thermostat - RTH6400D

To my surprise this thermostat didn't have an option to set the
temperature difference to startup. The old Maple Chase I think had a
difference variance to 1 to 3 degrees.

So now using the new thermostat I believe the furnace cycles to
often. Keeps the house at a more stable temperature level, at the
expense of the furnace kicking on and off.

I've looked around and found White-Rodgers/Emerson 1F97-0671 7 Day
5/1/1 Day Non-Programmable

This thermostat looks like it only has a variance of -

Heat (SS1, MS2) 0.4°F 0.6°F 1.7°F
Cool (SS1, MS2) 0.9°F 1.2°F 1.7°F

Any body have any suggestions.

Hmmm,
You want +/- 3 deg. swing? Isn't that too much? If furnace cycles
on/off too frequently you may have to beef up your house insulation.
Our Honeywell Vision Pro 8000 thermostat and furnace, a/c system
cycles no more than 3 times an hour even in dead coldest winter days.
Same with a/c. Or your furnace may be over sized(bad thing)

Not sure if I would use +/- 3 setting, but maybe +/- 2

I did blow in about 6-8 inches of Owens Corning AtticCat in the attic
this spring. Can't do much about the walls without a big effort.

Just seems to me the furnace kicks on and off more then it should.

It could be that your thermostat is too close to a heat register. Closing that
register might help.

Yeah, I had that problem, closed off a register for years, this heped
some, then found the diode that is used as a heat sensor and put a
blanket of white glue on it. It doesn't see the temp changes quite as
quickly. This in combination of closing the register worked pretty
good. Eventually I had to get a new HVAC sytem and relocated the
T'stat at that time..

Jimmie

Hi,
One reason I have a wireless 'stat. I can put it any where in the house.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You should be happy that the temperature is more constant.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

But are not modern thermostats designed to be more sensitive and react
more quickly to temperature change. Unfortunately if the thermostat
controls a furnace it may cause it it cut in and run more frequently;
that sounds like it may be less efficient? i.e. Furnace cutting in and
running from cold and then shutting down again without having run for
any length of time at full temperature? Thus possibly using more fuel?
Hi,
There ane many system option settings and one is limiting the number of
cycles as well as paise between cycles. higher end programmable ones
have quite a bit of brain.

Brent Bolin wrote:
On Apr 1, 4:45 pm, Tony wrote:
Brent Bolin wrote:
Just before winter hit my old Maple Chase thermostat died.

So I thought I'd go out and buy a big brand name... Honeywell

Purchased 5-1-1 Day Programmable Thermostat - RTH6400D

To my surprise this thermostat didn't have an option to set the
temperature difference to startup. The old Maple Chase I think had a
difference variance to 1 to 3 degrees.

So now using the new thermostat I believe the furnace cycles to
often. Keeps the house at a more stable temperature level, at the
expense of the furnace kicking on and off.

I've looked around and found White-Rodgers/Emerson 1F97-0671 7 Day
5/1/1 Day Non-Programmable

This thermostat looks like it only has a variance of -

Heat (SS1, MS2) 0.4°F 0.6°F 1.7°F
Cool (SS1, MS2) 0.9°F 1.2°F 1.7°F

Any body have any suggestions.

Hmmm,
You want +/- 3 deg. swing? Isn't that too much? If furnace cycles
on/off too frequently you may have to beef up your house insulation.
Our Honeywell Vision Pro 8000 thermostat and furnace, a/c system
cycles no more than 3 times an hour even in dead coldest winter days.
Same with a/c. Or your furnace may be over sized(bad thing)

Not sure if I would use +/- 3 setting, but maybe +/- 2

I did blow in about 6-8 inches of Owens Corning AtticCat in the attic
this spring. Can't do much about the walls without a big effort.

Just seems to me the furnace kicks on and off more then it should.
Hi,
Energy audit is worthwhile expenditure. If you upgrade the rebate will
pay for it.

On Apr 1, 4:23*pm, Brent Bolin wrote:
Just before winter hit my old Maple Chase thermostat died.

So I thought I'd go out and buy a big brand name... Honeywell

Purchased *5-1-1 Day Programmable Thermostat - RTH6400D

To my surprise this thermostat didn't have an option to set the
temperature difference to startup. *The old Maple Chase I think had a
difference variance to 1 to 3 degrees.

So now using the new thermostat I believe the furnace cycles to
often. *Keeps the house at a more stable temperature level, at the
expense of the furnace kicking on and off.

I've looked around and found White-Rodgers/Emerson 1F97-0671 7 Day
5/1/1 Day Non-Programmable

This thermostat looks like it only has a variance of -

Heat (SS1, MS2) 0.4°F 0.6°F 1.7°F
Cool (SS1, MS2) 0.9°F 1.2°F 1.7°F

Any body have any suggestions.

We installed a White-Rogers 1F85-277 in a new home about 1-1/2 years
ago. Easy to program and no complaints. However, this particular
model runs a two-stage system so it might not be suitable for your
use. I believe the variance is limited to 1 or 2 degrees and it was
set for 1. We are pretty well insulated so we don't notice frequent
cycles unless the temperature is extreme.

This thermostat has a nice setback feature. We program so the
temperature can drop to 60 at night, during the winter (it never
does). However, it senses temperature as the programmed startup time
approaches and adjusts the startup time a little earlier to compensate
for the variance.

RonB

Brent Bolin wrote:
On Apr 2, 5:06 am, Michael B wrote:
Do you have a house built around 1955-70?
If so, you may have no insulation in the walls, the
gas was more expensive to meter than supply.

Blowing insulation in the walls is not as big a deal
as some think. And certainly not expensive.

On Apr 1, 7:43 pm, Brent Bolin wrote:



I did blow in about 6-8 inches of Owens Corning AtticCat in the
attic this spring. Can't do much about the walls without a big
effort.

Yes I do. Think the age of the house is 41 years old. When I have
painted in the past I can see insulation close to the power outlets.
So I do believe there is insulation, but probably not very much. Also
no insulation in the crawl space. I have been reluctant to do
anything in the crawl space do to mold.

It's a possibility to look at blowing insulation into the walls.
Probably something I would want to tackle when the next interior pant
party(this summer) happens.

How well does blown in insulation fall down the wall when there is
some existing faced insulation? Note electrical conduit all comes
down the walls from the attic.

Probably not at all well. If the walls are insulated already, there is little to
be gained there. Depending on where you are, 6-8 inches of insulation in the
attic may not be enough.

On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:55:46 -0600, Tony Hwang
wrote:

Brent Bolin wrote:
On Apr 1, 4:45 pm, Tony wrote:
Brent Bolin wrote:
Just before winter hit my old Maple Chase thermostat died.

So I thought I'd go out and buy a big brand name... Honeywell

Purchased 5-1-1 Day Programmable Thermostat - RTH6400D

To my surprise this thermostat didn't have an option to set the
temperature difference to startup. The old Maple Chase I think had a
difference variance to 1 to 3 degrees.

So now using the new thermostat I believe the furnace cycles to
often. Keeps the house at a more stable temperature level, at the
expense of the furnace kicking on and off.

I've looked around and found White-Rodgers/Emerson 1F97-0671 7 Day
5/1/1 Day Non-Programmable

This thermostat looks like it only has a variance of -

Heat (SS1, MS2) 0.4°F 0.6°F 1.7°F
Cool (SS1, MS2) 0.9°F 1.2°F 1.7°F

Any body have any suggestions.

Hmmm,
You want +/- 3 deg. swing? Isn't that too much? If furnace cycles
on/off too frequently you may have to beef up your house insulation.
Our Honeywell Vision Pro 8000 thermostat and furnace, a/c system
cycles no more than 3 times an hour even in dead coldest winter days.
Same with a/c. Or your furnace may be over sized(bad thing)

Not sure if I would use +/- 3 setting, but maybe +/- 2

I did blow in about 6-8 inches of Owens Corning AtticCat in the attic
this spring. Can't do much about the walls without a big effort.

Just seems to me the furnace kicks on and off more then it should.
Hi,
Energy audit is worthwhile expenditure. If you upgrade the rebate will
pay for it.
If you are in Ontario, that program was just cancelled yesterday.