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At the church, there is a 45 minute rated fire door, with
closer and three hinges. Wood door. The hinges groan a bit, make some kind of noise while the door is closing. I tried opening and closing the door, with my fingers lightly touchng the hinge, and can't tell which of the three is making the noise. So, on principle, I dosed all three hinges and the door closer pivots with WD-40, and that didn't seem to help much. Today, several days later, I return to the building. Spray the hinges with brake cleaner, to flush out whatever old lube was there. And then, spray the hinges with LPS-1, leaving a non oily film. After the solvent flush, the hinges got noisier. And then the spray, and they went back to about the same noise level as when I started. I havn't whacked the hinges with a hammer and screw driver to check for removable pins. If they were, I'd pack in some axle grease, and pound the pins back in. What other ideas, for squeaky hinges? What works? -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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My experience has been to pull/drive out the pins (one at a time),
clean, and lubricate with a non-migrating grease, like LubriPlate, used in automotive work. In less severe cases, a good light oil, such as any oil you would use on firearms seems to work well. I can usually get a drop to work its way in on the top edge of the pin. |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in news:hojgnp
: What other ideas, for squeaky hinges? What works? First thing I'd suggest is pulling the pin on the closer, so you can push and pull the door yourself without closer assist. This action does two things: It eliminates the closer as a noise source, and it makes it easier to narrow down which hinge is making the noise. If it is indeed a hinge that's making the noise, I find aerosol white grease to be very effective. WD-40 is **NOT** a lubricant, so don't expect any help from it! Plus WD-40 stinks. Place the white-grease spray can nozzle directly on the hinge seams, and hold a paper towel over the nozzle before you fire. This will prevent the nozzle from spraying back into your face. You'll still have to wipe the door clean afterwards. Placing the nozzle directly on the seams helps the spray can inject the grease into the gap between hinge halves. Aerosol white grease is available in any auto parts store. -- Tegger |
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Tegger wrote:
"Stormin wrote in news:hojgnp : What other ideas, for squeaky hinges? What works? First thing I'd suggest is pulling the pin on the closer, so you can push and pull the door yourself without closer assist. This action does two things: It eliminates the closer as a noise source, and it makes it easier to narrow down which hinge is making the noise. If it is indeed a hinge that's making the noise, I find aerosol white grease to be very effective. WD-40 is **NOT** a lubricant, so don't expect any help from it! Plus WD-40 stinks. Place the white-grease spray can nozzle directly on the hinge seams, and hold a paper towel over the nozzle before you fire. This will prevent the nozzle from spraying back into your face. You'll still have to wipe the door clean afterwards. Placing the nozzle directly on the seams helps the spray can inject the grease into the gap between hinge halves. Aerosol white grease is available in any auto parts store. Hi, I use Liquid Wrench Teflon lubricant spray. |
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Tegger wrote in
: "Stormin Mormon" wrote in news:hojgnp : What other ideas, for squeaky hinges? What works? First thing I'd suggest is pulling the pin on the closer, so you can push and pull the door yourself without closer assist. This action does two things: It eliminates the closer as a noise source, and it makes it easier to narrow down which hinge is making the noise. If it is indeed a hinge that's making the noise, I find aerosol white grease to be very effective. WD-40 is **NOT** a lubricant, so don't expect any help from it! Plus WD-40 stinks. Place the white-grease spray can nozzle directly on the hinge seams, and hold a paper towel over the nozzle before you fire. This will prevent the nozzle from spraying back into your face. You'll still have to wipe the door clean afterwards. Placing the nozzle directly on the seams helps the spray can inject the grease into the gap between hinge halves. Aerosol white grease is available in any auto parts store. Another point: You'll find that if you study the hinge very carefully, you'll see that the gaps between the hinge segments are different. The door-side rests on top of the frame-side, and they will have worn down together. This means that the /top/ of the /door-side/ segments will have a larger gap than the bottom. That larger gap is where you spray the white grease. After spraying, it will take several openings and closings for the oil in the grease to migrate out of the grease and disperse through the hinge. -- Tegger |
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Another friend of mine suggested Lubri-Plate. I don't know
if the hinge pins drive out but I'll try it. Also don't know where to get such grease. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "professorpaul" wrote in message ... My experience has been to pull/drive out the pins (one at a time), clean, and lubricate with a non-migrating grease, like LubriPlate, used in automotive work. In less severe cases, a good light oil, such as any oil you would use on firearms seems to work well. I can usually get a drop to work its way in on the top edge of the pin. |
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That's a good thought, to disconnect the closer. Have to
take a better look at that. I've already tried white lith spray, but not as agressively as you suggest. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Tegger" wrote in message ... First thing I'd suggest is pulling the pin on the closer, so you can push and pull the door yourself without closer assist. This action does two things: It eliminates the closer as a noise source, and it makes it easier to narrow down which hinge is making the noise. If it is indeed a hinge that's making the noise, I find aerosol white grease to be very effective. WD-40 is **NOT** a lubricant, so don't expect any help from it! Plus WD-40 stinks. Place the white-grease spray can nozzle directly on the hinge seams, and hold a paper towel over the nozzle before you fire. This will prevent the nozzle from spraying back into your face. You'll still have to wipe the door clean afterwards. Placing the nozzle directly on the seams helps the spray can inject the grease into the gap between hinge halves. Aerosol white grease is available in any auto parts store. -- Tegger |
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How's that compare to the LPS #1 I tried earlier?
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Tony Hwang" wrote in message ... Hi, I use Liquid Wrench Teflon lubricant spray. |
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Makes sense, to look for a wider gap. I'd not thought of
that. But, it makes sense after reading it. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Tegger" wrote in message ... Another point: You'll find that if you study the hinge very carefully, you'll see that the gaps between the hinge segments are different. The door-side rests on top of the frame-side, and they will have worn down together. This means that the /top/ of the /door-side/ segments will have a larger gap than the bottom. That larger gap is where you spray the white grease. After spraying, it will take several openings and closings for the oil in the grease to migrate out of the grease and disperse through the hinge. -- Tegger |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
At the church, there is a 45 minute rated fire door, with closer and three hinges. Wood door. The hinges groan a bit, make some kind of noise while the door is closing. Maybe it's a cryptic message from God... |
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I'll pray about it, and get back to you. It may be ushering
in the new millenium? We can set up a shrine, and have the crying Blessed Mary statue, the potato chip with the head of Jesus, and the Mormon Moaning Hinge. You want to be my advertising director? We pay good wages, and take care of our people. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Slacker" wrote in message ... Stormin Mormon wrote: At the church, there is a 45 minute rated fire door, with closer and three hinges. Wood door. The hinges groan a bit, make some kind of noise while the door is closing. Maybe it's a cryptic message from God... |
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:57:27 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Makes sense, to look for a wider gap. I'd not thought of that. But, it makes sense after reading it. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "Tegger" wrote in message ... Another point: You'll find that if you study the hinge very carefully, you'll see that the gaps between the hinge segments are different. The door-side rests on top of the frame-side, and they will have worn down together. This means that the /top/ of the /door-side/ segments will have a larger gap than the bottom. That larger gap is where you spray the white grease. After spraying, it will take several openings and closings for the oil in the grease to migrate out of the grease and disperse through the hinge. I've found "fluid film" is the cat's meow for hinges. |
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:50:33 +0000 (UTC), Tegger
wrote: Tegger wrote in : "Stormin Mormon" wrote in news:hojgnp : What other ideas, for squeaky hinges? What works? First thing I'd suggest is pulling the pin on the closer, so you can push and pull the door yourself without closer assist. This action does two things: It eliminates the closer as a noise source, and it makes it easier to narrow down which hinge is making the noise. If it is indeed a hinge that's making the noise, I find aerosol white grease to be very effective. WD-40 is **NOT** a lubricant, so don't expect any help from it! Plus WD-40 stinks. Place the white-grease spray can nozzle directly on the hinge seams, and hold a paper towel over the nozzle before you fire. This will prevent the nozzle from spraying back into your face. You'll still have to wipe the door clean afterwards. Placing the nozzle directly on the seams helps the spray can inject the grease into the gap between hinge halves. Aerosol white grease is available in any auto parts store. Another point: You'll find that if you study the hinge very carefully, you'll see that the gaps between the hinge segments are different. The door-side rests on top of the frame-side, and they will have worn down together. This means that the /top/ of the /door-side/ segments will have a larger gap than the bottom. That larger gap is where you spray the white grease. After spraying, it will take several openings and closings for the oil in the grease to migrate out of the grease and disperse through the hinge. And LIFTING the door after (or during) lubing helps allow some of that lube into that "bearing" surface. |
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:38:13 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: At the church, there is a 45 minute rated fire door, with closer and three hinges. Wood door. The hinges groan a bit, make some kind of noise while the door is closing. That's Satan, telling you he's there. I tried opening and closing the door, with my fingers lightly touchng the hinge, and can't tell which of the three is making the noise. So, on principle, I dosed all three hinges and the door closer pivots with WD-40, and that didn't seem to help much. That's Satan playing tricks. What's the name of that guy when he plays tricks? Today, several days later, I return to the building. Spray the hinges with brake cleaner, to flush out whatever old lube was there. And then, spray the hinges with LPS-1, leaving a non oily film. After the solvent flush, the hinges got noisier. And then the spray, and they went back to about the same noise level as when I started. I havn't whacked the hinges with a hammer and screw driver to check for removable pins. If they were, I'd pack in some axle grease, and pound the pins back in. What other ideas, for squeaky hinges? What works? Pay your dues to Satan. I had hoped to give some repair advice too, but you've got me stumped. You did what I would do. |
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Slacker wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote: At the church, there is a 45 minute rated fire door, with closer and three hinges. Wood door. The hinges groan a bit, make some kind of noise while the door is closing. Maybe it's a cryptic message from God... Could be. My granny used to say something was "Noisier than the hinges on the gates of Hell." |
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"mm" wrote in message ... On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:38:13 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: At the church, there is a 45 minute rated fire door, with closer and three hinges. Wood door. The hinges groan a bit, make some kind of noise while the door is closing. That's Satan, telling you he's there. CY: I'm remembering the story of the little boy in sunday school. The teacher asks where God lives. Little boy raises his hand. Teacher calls on him. God lives in my house in the bathroom. Teacher is puzzled. Little boy explains that this morning, his Dad is banging on the door and hollering "My God! My God! Are you still in there!" And some what related to the story, the squeaky hinge at my church is on a bathroom door. I tried opening and closing the door, with my fingers lightly touchng the hinge, and can't tell which of the three is making the noise. So, on principle, I dosed all three hinges and the door closer pivots with WD-40, and that didn't seem to help much. That's Satan playing tricks. What's the name of that guy when he plays tricks? CY: Barry? Today, several days later, I return to the building. Spray the hinges with brake cleaner, to flush out whatever old lube was there. And then, spray the hinges with LPS-1, leaving a non oily film. After the solvent flush, the hinges got noisier. And then the spray, and they went back to about the same noise level as when I started. I havn't whacked the hinges with a hammer and screw driver to check for removable pins. If they were, I'd pack in some axle grease, and pound the pins back in. What other ideas, for squeaky hinges? What works? Pay your dues to Satan. CY: Works for me. Shall I sacrifice virgins, or burn goats, or maybe the flaming cross with plenty of citronella oil on the parking lot of the church? I had hoped to give some repair advice too, but you've got me stumped. You did what I would do. CY: You want to bring a pentagram, and we'll have a seance? |
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I should call a priest!
(Oh... wait.... I *AM* a priest!) -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "HeyBub" wrote in message m... Slacker wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote: At the church, there is a 45 minute rated fire door, with closer and three hinges. Wood door. The hinges groan a bit, make some kind of noise while the door is closing. Maybe it's a cryptic message from God... Could be. My granny used to say something was "Noisier than the hinges on the gates of Hell." |
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On Mar 26, 7:38*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: At the church, there is a 45 minute rated fire door, with closer and three hinges. Wood door. The hinges groan a bit, make some kind of noise while the door is closing. I tried opening and closing the door, with my fingers lightly touchng the hinge, and can't tell which of the three is making the noise. So, on principle, I dosed all three hinges and the door closer pivots with WD-40, and that didn't seem to help much. Today, several days later, I return to the building. Spray the hinges with brake cleaner, to flush out whatever old lube was there. And then, spray the hinges with LPS-1, leaving a non oily film. After the solvent flush, the hinges got noisier. And then the spray, and they went back to about the same noise level as when I started. I havn't whacked the hinges with a hammer and screw driver to check for removable pins. If they were, I'd pack in some axle grease, and pound the pins back in. What other ideas, for squeaky hinges? What works? -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . After 20 years I found I was having to regularly(3 or 4 months) grease my front door hinges to keep them quiet. Solution was to replace the hinges. Jimmie |
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Soundhaspriority wrote:
Why don't you just pray to child molester Joseph Smith or doesn't your mormon god do miracles like ours? Churches based on fraud like the LDS would seem to be the devil's playground. That's why you'll never make these hinges quiet. Fraud? Do you really expect God expects us to distinguish between a "miracle" and an entertainment magic show? Consider Jesus. Jesus was who He was because of who He was and the miracles he performed mean nothing. First, He did nothing that hadn't been done before. For example, He fed the multitudes with a couple of fish and a few bread loaves. Moses fed 300,000 with stuff that dropped from the skys. Siegfried & Roy can feed a couple of thousand by passing out buffet tickets. No, miracles don't prove squat. And anybody who relies on them as evidence of divinity has been fooled. |
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Can't say as I've heard of that. What is it, and where does
one buy it? -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:57:27 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" I've found "fluid film" is the cat's meow for hinges. |
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Lets see. A slam, then a lie, then an accusation, and then
discouragement, and telling me not to try. Hmm. And, who do you sound like? Who said "if thou be the Christ, throw yourself down"? Answer: Satan, the deceiver. That's who you sound like. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Soundhaspriority" wrote in message ... Why don't you just pray to child molester Joseph Smith or doesn't your mormon god do miracles like ours? Churches based on fraud like the LDS would seem to be the devil's playground. That's why you'll never make these hinges quiet. |
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That may end up being the solution. We'll see. Thanks for
the field report. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "JIMMIE" wrote in message news:8bbb215c-ba28-493a-80f9- After 20 years I found I was having to regularly(3 or 4 months) grease my front door hinges to keep them quiet. Solution was to replace the hinges. Jimmie |
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Now, that's a thoughtful reply. Not often seen (manners, and
thought) on Usenet. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "HeyBub" wrote in message m... Fraud? Do you really expect God expects us to distinguish between a "miracle" and an entertainment magic show? Consider Jesus. Jesus was who He was because of who He was and the miracles he performed mean nothing. First, He did nothing that hadn't been done before. For example, He fed the multitudes with a couple of fish and a few bread loaves. Moses fed 300,000 with stuff that dropped from the skys. Siegfried & Roy can feed a couple of thousand by passing out buffet tickets. No, miracles don't prove squat. And anybody who relies on them as evidence of divinity has been fooled. |
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Maybe mixed in with axle grease?
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "dadiOH" wrote in message ... Graphite. -- dadiOH |
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"Tegger" wrote in message ... "Stormin Mormon" wrote in news:hojgnp : WD-40 is **NOT** a lubricant, so don't expect any help from it! Somebody told you this and you believed him. But you and your informant are incorrect. A lubricant is something that lubricates i.e. reduces the friction between to separate sliding members. If what you are trying to say is that WD40 is probably not the best choice of lubricant in many cases I will agree with you. It might not last as long as other products, it might not smell as nice as other products, but it does in fact reduce friction, make slick and slippery that which was not so before, so therefore it is a lubricant. It has the advantage of being cheap and available almost everywhere. It is easy to apply and seldom does harm when applied. -- Roger Shoaf If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent. |
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wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:50:33 +0000 (UTC), Tegger And LIFTING the door after (or during) lubing helps allow some of that lube into that "bearing" surface. I agree with this point. I have found it effective to use a small wedge under the hinge edge of the door. Also a "Wonderbar" tool has just about the right amount of curve (the straighter end) so you can lift the door by stepping on the bar with your foot. Might want to use a piece of sheet metal (strike plate) between the bottom of the door and the tips of the tool to prevent buggering up the bottom of the door. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Graphite. -- Maybe mixed in with axle grease? Wax might be a better choice. Melt the wax, mix in some graphite, dip the disassembled hinge parts that have been cleaned (carb/brake cleaner) and dried, and then reassemble after cleaning the wax off the outside of the hinge. That would probably be effective and long lasting, but messy. You might do almost as well taking the hinges apart and smearing on some chap-stick with a q-tip. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. |
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On Mar 27, 4:49*pm, "Roger Shoaf" wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Graphite. -- Maybe mixed in with axle grease? Wax might be a better choice. *Melt the wax, mix in some graphite, dip the disassembled hinge parts that have been cleaned (carb/brake cleaner) and dried, and then reassemble after cleaning the wax off the outside of the hinge. That would probably be effective and long lasting, but messy. You might do almost as well taking the hinges apart and smearing on some chap-stick with a q-tip. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. Some heavy doors in the UK have tiny ball bearings in the hinges. Work wonderfully well until a ball gets chipped or the lubricant dries out. New hinge is the final solution. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
Maybe mixed in with axle grease? I use Industrial Chain Lube on stuff like that. Gunk L716 Liquid Wrench Industrial Chain Lube can be found at most auto parts stores, it's not for O-ring type bike chains there's another one for that purpose. http://tinyurl.com/yeq6blc TDD |
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Also lots of fun to spray over the top of a butane lighter.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Roger Shoaf" wrote in message ... Somebody told you this and you believed him. But you and your informant are incorrect. A lubricant is something that lubricates i.e. reduces the friction between to separate sliding members. If what you are trying to say is that WD40 is probably not the best choice of lubricant in many cases I will agree with you. It might not last as long as other products, it might not smell as nice as other products, but it does in fact reduce friction, make slick and slippery that which was not so before, so therefore it is a lubricant. It has the advantage of being cheap and available almost everywhere. It is easy to apply and seldom does harm when applied. -- Roger Shoaf If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent. |
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Could help. I'd worry more about the floor than bottom edge
of the door. Not many people look at the bottom edge. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Roger Shoaf" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:50:33 +0000 (UTC), Tegger And LIFTING the door after (or during) lubing helps allow some of that lube into that "bearing" surface. I agree with this point. I have found it effective to use a small wedge under the hinge edge of the door. Also a "Wonderbar" tool has just about the right amount of curve (the straighter end) so you can lift the door by stepping on the bar with your foot. Might want to use a piece of sheet metal (strike plate) between the bottom of the door and the tips of the tool to prevent buggering up the bottom of the door. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote: At the church, there is a 45 minute rated fire door, with closer and three hinges. Wood door. The hinges groan a bit, make some kind of noise while the door is closing. I tried opening and closing the door, with my fingers lightly touchng the hinge, and can't tell which of the three is making the noise. So, on principle, I dosed all three hinges and the door closer pivots with WD-40, and that didn't seem to help much. Today, several days later, I return to the building. Spray the hinges with brake cleaner, to flush out whatever old lube was there. And then, spray the hinges with LPS-1, leaving a non oily film. After the solvent flush, the hinges got noisier. And then the spray, and they went back to about the same noise level as when I started. I havn't whacked the hinges with a hammer and screw driver to check for removable pins. If they were, I'd pack in some axle grease, and pound the pins back in. What other ideas, for squeaky hinges? What works? Do it right, and you won't need to do it again for many years. Take the door down, clean out the hinge leaves and pins. There may be some filthy particulate crud involved, so cover the floor/carpet. The cleaning part is important, that dry powder residue is very abrasive. Plain old white grease is a fantastic lube for this application (and outdoor hinges as well). A small tube will do a lot of doors. Put a thin coat on the pins and hinge leave bores.. a swab works well for the bores. Don't neglect the top and bottom edges of the (thrust) load bearing leaves. Don't over do it, or it'll be messy later. Put it back together and thats it. I once had a girlfriend who's front door hinges were so dry it was physically hard to move her door... noisy too. Anyway, I offered to lube the door, and she accepted. I pulled it down and did the big number. There was probably a table spoon of dry rust spooge that came out of those massive hinges... Shortly after she called demanding the squeaks back... complained she couldn't sleep fearing someone might now sneak in, and that light breezes blew the door around when she left it open. You can't win... solved the 'new' problems with a bell and doorstop. Erik |
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I believe you are exactly right. One day, I'll have to try
the screws (metal jamb) and see if they want to come out. As intermediate answer, I'm going to see if the hinge pins come out, and dab in some grease. I knew a watch repairman who found his squeaky hinge useful, as a door alert. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Erik" wrote in message ... Do it right, and you won't need to do it again for many years. Take the door down, clean out the hinge leaves and pins. There may be some filthy particulate crud involved, so cover the floor/carpet. The cleaning part is important, that dry powder residue is very abrasive. Plain old white grease is a fantastic lube for this application (and outdoor hinges as well). A small tube will do a lot of doors. Put a thin coat on the pins and hinge leave bores.. a swab works well for the bores. Don't neglect the top and bottom edges of the (thrust) load bearing leaves. Don't over do it, or it'll be messy later. Put it back together and thats it. I once had a girlfriend who's front door hinges were so dry it was physically hard to move her door... noisy too. Anyway, I offered to lube the door, and she accepted. I pulled it down and did the big number. There was probably a table spoon of dry rust spooge that came out of those massive hinges... Shortly after she called demanding the squeaks back... complained she couldn't sleep fearing someone might now sneak in, and that light breezes blew the door around when she left it open. You can't win... solved the 'new' problems with a bell and doorstop. Erik |
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Erik wrote: In article , "Stormin Mormon" wrote: At the church, there is a 45 minute rated fire door, with closer and three hinges. Wood door. The hinges groan a bit, make some kind of noise while the door is closing. I tried opening and closing the door, with my fingers lightly touchng the hinge, and can't tell which of the three is making the noise. So, on principle, I dosed all three hinges and the door closer pivots with WD-40, and that didn't seem to help much. Today, several days later, I return to the building. Spray the hinges with brake cleaner, to flush out whatever old lube was there. And then, spray the hinges with LPS-1, leaving a non oily film. After the solvent flush, the hinges got noisier. And then the spray, and they went back to about the same noise level as when I started. I havn't whacked the hinges with a hammer and screw driver to check for removable pins. If they were, I'd pack in some axle grease, and pound the pins back in. What other ideas, for squeaky hinges? What works? Do it right, and you won't need to do it again for many years. Take the door down, clean out the hinge leaves and pins. There may be some filthy particulate crud involved, so cover the floor/carpet. The cleaning part is important, that dry powder residue is very abrasive. Plain old white grease is a fantastic lube for this application (and outdoor hinges as well). A small tube will do a lot of doors. Put a thin coat on the pins and hinge leave bores.. a swab works well for the bores. Don't neglect the top and bottom edges of the (thrust) load bearing leaves. Don't over do it, or it'll be messy later. Put it back together and thats it. I once had a girlfriend who's front door hinges were so dry it was physically hard to move her door... noisy too. Anyway, I offered to lube the door, and she accepted. I pulled it down and did the big number. There was probably a table spoon of dry rust spooge that came out of those massive hinges... Shortly after she called demanding the squeaks back... complained she couldn't sleep fearing someone might now sneak in, and that light breezes blew the door around when she left it open. You can't win... solved the 'new' problems with a bell and doorstop. Erik Another thought... could the 'groaning' you describe be coming from the closer? Can you disconnect it's linkage and operate independently of the door to test? A good 'poor man's' stethoscope is to put a screwdriver blade up to the suspected noisy component, and while operating, put your ear up to the screwdriver handle. Use common sense and good judgment if listening to hazardous equipment this way. Erik |
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Now, that's a thoughtful reply. Not often seen (manners, and thought) on Usenet. Thank you, but I put a lot of thought into all my replies. Look! A squirrel! That's the second metric squirrel today! |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Could help. I'd worry more about the floor than bottom edge of the door. Not many people look at the bottom edge. The bottom edge of the door is subject to splitting from the sharp end of the tool, hence the warning. Something to protect the floor also would be a good idea. -- Roger Shoaf If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the Congress? |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in news:hojl4o
: That's a good thought, to disconnect the closer. Have to take a better look at that. I've already tried white lith spray, but not as agressively as you suggest. The point is to use the little nozzle hose to inject the white-grease spray into the hinge gaps as deeply and as copiously as you can. Give it time to get shoved into the gaps. Spray the hinge gaps with the door mostly open, and mostly closed. Do not be afraid to really soak it. This does create backspray and mess on the door. That's why you hold a cloth or paper towel in front of the hinge so the backspray doesn't hit you in the face. You can bracket the hinge with a sheet of newspaper held on by masking tape. This will minimize door cleanup afterwards. I've had 100% success eliminating door hinge noise using this method. -- Tegger |
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:38:13 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I tried opening and closing the door, with my fingers lightly touchng the hinge, and can't tell which of the three is making the noise. So, on principle, I dosed all three hinges and the door closer pivots with WD-40, and that didn't seem to help much. Hmm, get something with a straight edge about the same height as the door - check the frame and hinges for alignment. Maybe something's shifted; you might be able to tell which hinge is squeaking* and shim it with a metal shim to bring it back into line. * a long bit of rubber tube held up to the ear works well for detecting where noises are coming from, too... cheers Jules |
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