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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?
I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used
it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. Does someone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance!! |
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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?
Ben wrote the following:
I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. Does someone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance!! Got oil??? -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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On Mar 14, 6:40*pm, "Don Phillipson" wrote:
"Ben" wrote in message ... I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. *I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. *It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. *It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. *Does someone have a suggestion? *Thanks in advance!! 1. *Sears will charge a minimum ($50?) whether the saw is repairable or not. 2. *Mechanical problems can be repaired by fitting new parts if available, and electrical problems can sometimes be repaired too. * The OP did not say whether the casing can be removed from either the electric motor or the chain drive unit. 3. *Failure of the power supply cord is another possibility. 1. Since the saw cost only about $50 in the first place, a $50 repair charge would be pretty steep! 2. The casing does seem to open on both sides---the motor side and the chain/bar side. I removed the screws on the chain side, but opening it fully would mean cutting through a sticker and I wanted to get some advice if possible before I did that. 3. If you mean the extension cord that connects the saw to the outlet, I tested that (by plugging in something else) and it's fine. There's something definitely wrong with the saw since the chain sprocket won't rotate. -Ben 3. |
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"Ben" wrote in message
... I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. Does someone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance!! 1. Sears will charge a minimum ($50?) whether the saw is repairable or not. 2. Mechanical problems can be repaired by fitting new parts if available, and electrical problems can sometimes be repaired too. The OP did not say whether the casing can be removed from either the electric motor or the chain drive unit. 3. Failure of the power supply cord is another possibility. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?
My first thought is to take the bar and chain off. Plug the
saw in, hold it safely, and quick squeeze of the trigger. If the motor and sprocket are the problem, it will be still dead. Some cleaning and oiling the motor might help. On the other hand, if the chain is the problem, now you'll hear it spin. Maybe bar too tight, or chain dried out or.... But, that will help determine which component was the problem. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Ben" wrote in message ... I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. Does someone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance!! |
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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?
Even with the bar off?
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Ben" wrote in message ... There's something definitely wrong with the saw since the chain sprocket won't rotate. -Ben |
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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?
Ben wrote:
I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. Does someone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance!! Dollars to donuts it's the crappy trigger switch. On my Ryobi, the interlock button broke which in turn prevented the switch from working. If you disassemble the handle, I'll bet you'll find similar cheesy parts. With some suitable head-scratching and experimenting you'll probably be able to bypass whatever it is that's busted. |
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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:49:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: My first thought is to take the bar and chain off. Plug the saw in, hold it safely, and quick squeeze of the trigger. Agree. If the motor and sprocket are the problem, it will be still dead. Some cleaning and oiling the motor might help. On the other hand, if the chain is the problem, now you'll hear it spin. Maybe bar too tight, or chain dried out or.... Bent / kinked chain...causing a bind. But, that will help determine which component was the problem. The other comment to check the switch would be my second choice. |
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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?
Got oil???
Yes. |
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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?
willshak wrote in
m: Ben wrote the following: I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. Does someone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance!! Got oil??? it's probably got sap gumming up the works. Maybe a spray of PB Blaster penetrating oil would help. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com |
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On Mar 14, 5:33*pm, Ben wrote:
On Mar 14, 6:40*pm, "Don Phillipson" wrote: "Ben" wrote in message .... I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. *I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. *It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. *It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. *Does someone have a suggestion? *Thanks in advance!! 1. *Sears will charge a minimum ($50?) whether the saw is repairable or not. 2. *Mechanical problems can be repaired by fitting new parts if available, and electrical problems can sometimes be repaired too. * The OP did not say whether the casing can be removed from either the electric motor or the chain drive unit. 3. *Failure of the power supply cord is another possibility. 1. Since the saw cost only about $50 in the first place, a $50 repair charge would be pretty steep! 2. The casing does seem to open on both sides---the motor side and the chain/bar side. *I removed the screws on the chain side, but opening it fully would mean cutting through a sticker and I wanted to get some advice if possible before I did that. 3. If you mean the extension cord that connects the saw to the outlet, I tested that (by plugging in something else) and it's fine. *There's something definitely wrong with the saw since the chain sprocket won't rotate. -Ben 3.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If it's out of warranty why are you concerned about breaking the sticker? Open the chain side and see if something is stuck in there or the chain has jumped partway off the sprocket. Electrical problems like a cord or bad switch wouldn't prevent the chain & sprocket from turning. |
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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?
willshak wrote:
Ben wrote the following: I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. Does someone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance!! Got oil??? Take it back and get a new one for free. Craftsman is guaranteed for life. -- LSMFT Drive slower than the posted speed............................. And you too can become a fracking prick.............. |
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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:04:56 -0400, LSMFT wrote:
willshak wrote: Ben wrote the following: I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. Does someone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance!! Got oil??? Take it back and get a new one for free. Craftsman is guaranteed for life. That's not just hand tools? |
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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:56:28 -0400, mm
wrote: Take it back and get a new one for free. Craftsman is guaranteed for life. That's not just hand tools? If a water hose is marked Craftsman, I've gotten replacements before. Not just tools. Still I have two 50' Craftsman hoses that need to go back for my lifetime warranty. I've done this before. Now they want to give you the replacement that is not marked Craftsman. |
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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?
On Mar 14, 9:04*pm, LSMFT wrote:
willshak wrote: Ben wrote the following: I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. Does someone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance!! Got oil??? Take it back and get a new one for free. Craftsman is guaranteed for life.. -- LSMFT Drive slower than the posted speed............................. * *And you too can become a fracking prick.............. guarnteed for life for a Flys life that is. |
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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?
On Mar 14, 3:50*pm, Ben wrote:
I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. *I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. *It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. *It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. *Does someone have a suggestion? *Thanks in advance!! Take off the chain and bar grab the motor shaft with pliers, if it doesnt turn freely easily the bearings are shot, maybe you can get it to turn, maybe but unlikely they can be oiled, open it up and look. If it turns easily without the bar maybe its the bar seized to the chain from no oil, if no power maybe the plug or switch, open and use a meter. A set of bearings is cheap but who knows if its esy to replace them by their thow away design. |
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On Mar 14, 10:04*pm, LSMFT wrote:
Take it back and get a new one for free. Craftsman is guaranteed for life.. Not on power tools. |
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On Mar 15, 5:10*pm, wrote:
On Mar 14, 10:04*pm, LSMFT wrote: Take it back and get a new one for free. Craftsman is guaranteed for life. Not on power tools. If it's not a bit of crap jamming in the chain sprocket, the most likely thing is the gearbox. On most electric saws the motor needs to be geared down to develope enough torque. Remove the bar and chain and see if the chain sprocket is free to turn. There's also a sprocket on the end of the bar that must spin freely. The bearing on this can disintegrate, especially if there has been a dearth of oil. |
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On 03/14/2010 04:50 PM, Ben wrote:
I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. Does someone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance!! Take it back and get a new one free. All Craftsman tools are guaranteed for life. -- LSFT Drive a little slower than the posted speed....... And you too can become a fracking prick. |
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On Mar 16, 8:56*am, LSMFT wrote:
On 03/14/2010 04:50 PM, Ben wrote: I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. *I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. *It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. *It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. *Does someone have a suggestion? *Thanks in advance!! Take it back and get a new one free. All Craftsman tools are guaranteed for life. -- LSFT Drive a little slower than the posted speed....... And you too can become a fracking prick. Can't you read? That is only hand tools. Not power tools. Never has been power tools. |
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Can't you read? �That is only hand tools. �Not power tools. �Never has been power tools.- Yes and sears no longer offers satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. Incidently I heard the company lost money in the christmas selling season. They sold off the Craftsman tool brand, are now only a licensee. Kenmore is for sale if its not already sold. Sears is on its way out and K mart too. I quit shopping at sears unwillingly to wait in long lines while clerks try to huckster credit cards to every customer. I lef my last purchase at the register and asked are you a merchant or a bank? Even craftman tools arent what they used to be. |
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On Mar 16, 7:56*am, LSMFT wrote:
On 03/14/2010 04:50 PM, Ben wrote: I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. *I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. *It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. *It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. *Does someone have a suggestion? *Thanks in advance!! Take it back and get a new one free. All Craftsman tools are guaranteed for life. -- LSFT Drive a little slower than the posted speed....... And you too can become a fracking prick. Thats a joke right, 30 days on some junk, but most is just decent homeowner grade. |
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On Mar 16, 8:34*am, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Mar 16, 8:56*am, LSMFT wrote: On 03/14/2010 04:50 PM, Ben wrote: I bought a Craftman electric chain saw about 3 years ago and have used it a couple of times each summer...maybe 5-10 hours of use in all. *I was cutting up a tree in the back yard today when the saw just stopped cold. *It was like the chain brake had engaged, but it hadn't. Nothing happens when I hit the switch, and the chain sprocket won't rotate at all. *It's out of warranty, so before I bring it to Sears and have them tell me it will cost more to fix than I want to pay, I thought I'd ask for suggestions about how to fix it myself. *Does someone have a suggestion? *Thanks in advance!! Take it back and get a new one free. All Craftsman tools are guaranteed for life. -- LSFT Drive a little slower than the posted speed....... And you too can become a fracking prick. Can't you read? *That is only hand tools. *Not power tools. *Never has been power tools.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not the tape measures any more on the tape, I was there a few weeks ago. |
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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?
OK, I opened up the saw. The clutch that's attached to the chain
brake lever seems to perform two functions---preventing the lock button from doing it's job (pressing a switch inside) and locking up the motor so that the sprocket doesn't turn. I was somehow able to make it all work again for a moment, but it stopped almost immediately. I can hear the lock button engaging the switch (a small click that doesn't happen when the chain brake is on) but the saw still won't start. Frustrating! I can take it apart again and look at the clutch (there are actually two clutches according to the parts diagram), but I'm not sure exactly what to do with them. Thanks again, -Ben |
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On Mar 17, 10:50*pm, Ben wrote:
OK, I opened up the saw. *The clutch that's attached to the chain brake lever seems to perform two functions---preventing the lock button from doing it's job (pressing a switch inside) and locking up the motor so that the sprocket doesn't turn. *I was somehow able to make it all work again for a moment, but it stopped almost immediately. *I can hear the lock button engaging the switch (a small click that doesn't happen when the chain brake is on) but the saw still won't start. *Frustrating! *I can take it apart again and look at the clutch (there are actually two clutches according to the parts diagram), but I'm not sure exactly what to do with them. Thanks again, -Ben I'm surprised there is a clutch on an electric saw. There is a centrifugal clutch on petrol saw so that the motor can idle. There is a "kick back" brake on all saws, the purpose is to instantly stop the saw if it kicks back. It's linked to the reset lever on the top side of the saw, there is a weight on this calculated to trip the brake. (This is the thing you pull back to reset the brake.) It's connected to a switch to simultaneously turn off the power when it operates. You need to test the motor and the switch operation while the chain& bar is removed, ideally with an electrical continuity/resistance meter. When an electric motor (with carbon brushes) operates intermitantly, it's sometimes the case that a single circuit in the armature is open circuit. If the motor happens to come to rest with the brushes on this circuit, it won't work. The clue is lots of sparking at the brushes and a burnt segment on the commutator. Also if you move the armature slightly it runs. In this event you need a new armature or these days, it's likely to be junk. TURN THE POWER OFF BEFORE YOU MESS WITH IT :-) |
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Craftsman electric chain saw seized up...what to do?
replying to willshak, homeyson wrote:
I ordered a work electric chainsaw it came with oil I have not had it to run the first time any suggestion unhappy saw owner -- posted from http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...do-430383-.htm |
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