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Subject: National Ammo Day
http://www.ammoday.com/ A brief explanation - What is National Ammo Day? November 19 is National Ammo Day. It is a nationwide BUYcott of ammunition. You buy ammunition. 100 Rounds a person. The goals of Ammo Day: The goal of National Ammo Day is to empty the ammunition from the shelves of your local gun store, sporting goods, or hardware store and put that ammunition in the hands of law-abiding citizens. Make your support of the Second Amendment known--by voting with your dollars! There are an estimated 75 MILLION gun owners in the United States of America. If each gun owner or Second Amendment supporter buys 100 rounds of ammunition, that's 7.5 BILLION rounds in the hands of law-abiding citizens! The gun/ammunition manufacturers have been taking the brunt of all the frivolous lawsuits, trying to put these folks out of business. Well, not if we can help it! And we CAN help it by buying ammunition on November 19! |
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:40:14 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Subject: National Ammo Day http://www.ammoday.com/ A brief explanation - What is National Ammo Day? November 19 is National Ammo Day. [snip] The gun/ammunition manufacturers have been taking the brunt of all the frivolous lawsuits, trying to put these folks out of business. Well, not if we can help it! And we CAN help it by buying ammunition on November 19! It's also No Smoking Day. |
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Anyone caught smoking on Nov 19 will be shot. And now I've
got the bullet to do it with. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Sam E" wrote in message ... it by buying ammunition on November 19! It's also No Smoking Day. |
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:40:14 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Subject: National Ammo Day http://www.ammoday.com/ A brief explanation - What is National Ammo Day? November 19 is National Ammo Day. It is a nationwide BUYcott of ammunition. You buy ammunition. 100 Rounds a person. The goals of Ammo Day: The goal of National Ammo Day is to empty the ammunition from the shelves of your local gun store, sporting goods, or hardware store and put that ammunition in the hands of law-abiding citizens. Make your support of the Second Amendment known--by voting with your dollars! There are an estimated 75 MILLION gun owners in the United States of America. If each gun owner or Second Amendment supporter buys 100 rounds of ammunition, that's 7.5 BILLION rounds in the hands of law-abiding citizens! The gun/ammunition manufacturers have been taking the brunt of all the frivolous lawsuits, trying to put these folks out of business. Well, not if we can help it! And we CAN help it by buying ammunition on November 19! And you're going to limit this to law abiding citizens how? |
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Fingerprints, background check. Waiting period.
Registration. National ID card, approval from the local sherrif, and a note from your mom. Nothing unreasonable, right? -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "dgk" wrote in message ... And you're going to limit this to law abiding citizens how? |
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:44:32 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Fingerprints, background check. Waiting period. Registration. National ID card, approval from the local sherrif, and a note from your mom. Nothing unreasonable, right? Reasonable. Is it done that way for ammo? I doubt it but don't actually know. |
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"dgk" wrote in message
... On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:44:32 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Fingerprints, background check. Waiting period. Registration. National ID card, approval from the local sherrif, and a note from your mom. Nothing unreasonable, right? Reasonable. Is it done that way for ammo? I doubt it but don't actually know. In NY State: Show pistol permit to buy pistol ammo. Ammo must match one of the guns listed on the permit. Rifle ammo: Nobody's ever asked me for anything but money. NYC may or may not be different. I have no idea. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "dgk" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:44:32 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Fingerprints, background check. Waiting period. Registration. National ID card, approval from the local sherrif, and a note from your mom. Nothing unreasonable, right? Reasonable. Is it done that way for ammo? I doubt it but don't actually know. In NY State: Show pistol permit to buy pistol ammo. Ammo must match one of the guns listed on the permit. Rifle ammo: Nobody's ever asked me for anything but money. NYC may or may not be different. I have no idea. TX - 18+ to buy rifle ammo, 21+ to buy pistol ammo. As long as you meet the age requirements we don't care what you buy. And certainly no pistol permits specifying specific guns. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"dgk" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:44:32 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Fingerprints, background check. Waiting period. Registration. National ID card, approval from the local sherrif, and a note from your mom. Nothing unreasonable, right? Reasonable. Is it done that way for ammo? I doubt it but don't actually know. In NY State: Show pistol permit to buy pistol ammo. Ammo must match one of the guns listed on the permit. Rifle ammo: Nobody's ever asked me for anything but money. NYC may or may not be different. I have no idea. I am in PA so we don't yet need a permit to buy ammo as is required in the PR of NY and PR of NJ. Why do you folks keep on hiring politicians who think that way? |
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dgk wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:44:32 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Fingerprints, background check. Waiting period. Registration. National ID card, approval from the local sherrif, and a note from your mom. Nothing unreasonable, right? Reasonable. Is it done that way for ammo? I doubt it but don't actually know. New law in California. Buyer must present identification and that information, plus a thumbprint, is logged by the seller. Also, all sales must be face-to-face, i.e., no more internet sales. |
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"HeyBub" wrote in message
m... dgk wrote: On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:44:32 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Fingerprints, background check. Waiting period. Registration. National ID card, approval from the local sherrif, and a note from your mom. Nothing unreasonable, right? Reasonable. Is it done that way for ammo? I doubt it but don't actually know. New law in California. Buyer must present identification and that information, plus a thumbprint, is logged by the seller. Also, all sales must be face-to-face, i.e., no more internet sales. I thought that didn't take effect until January of 2010. Cheri |
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:44:32 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Fingerprints, background check. Waiting period. Registration. National ID card, approval from the local sherrif, and a note from your mom. Nothing unreasonable, right? Don't forget some skin from the back of your neck, saliva sample, and psychiatrist's report. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
Subject: National Ammo Day http://www.ammoday.com/ A brief explanation - What is National Ammo Day? November 19 is National Ammo Day. It is a nationwide BUYcott of ammunition. You buy ammunition. 100 Rounds a person. The goals of Ammo Day: The goal of National Ammo Day is to empty the ammunition from the shelves of your local gun store, sporting goods, or hardware store and put that ammunition in the hands of law-abiding citizens. Make your support of the Second Amendment known--by voting with your dollars! There are an estimated 75 MILLION gun owners in the United States of America. If each gun owner or Second Amendment supporter buys 100 rounds of ammunition, that's 7.5 BILLION rounds in the hands of law-abiding citizens! The gun/ammunition manufacturers have been taking the brunt of all the frivolous lawsuits, trying to put these folks out of business. Well, not if we can help it! And we CAN help it by buying ammunition on November 19! Where have you been, or not been, for the last several months? There is basically no ammo out there to be purchased as it was all purchased and hoarded by the ultra conservative nuts after the last election. Hell, I have had 9mm on order since early September and now it is not expected in until December 21st and I would be willing to bet that gets changed again. The ammo manufacturers are certainly not going out of business. In fact, they have been working three shifts just attempting to keep up with demand. Just point your browser to http://tinyurl.com/yb7ndrq and note that after you get down to the 4th row (after the specialty stuff) that everything is back ordered! In short, your idea is not only a bad idea, it is also several months late. Don |
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"IGot2P" wrote in message
... Stormin Mormon wrote: Subject: National Ammo Day http://www.ammoday.com/ A brief explanation - What is National Ammo Day? November 19 is National Ammo Day. It is a nationwide BUYcott of ammunition. You buy ammunition. 100 Rounds a person. The goals of Ammo Day: The goal of National Ammo Day is to empty the ammunition from the shelves of your local gun store, sporting goods, or hardware store and put that ammunition in the hands of law-abiding citizens. Make your support of the Second Amendment known--by voting with your dollars! There are an estimated 75 MILLION gun owners in the United States of America. If each gun owner or Second Amendment supporter buys 100 rounds of ammunition, that's 7.5 BILLION rounds in the hands of law-abiding citizens! The gun/ammunition manufacturers have been taking the brunt of all the frivolous lawsuits, trying to put these folks out of business. Well, not if we can help it! And we CAN help it by buying ammunition on November 19! Where have you been, or not been, for the last several months? There is basically no ammo out there to be purchased as it was all purchased and hoarded by the ultra conservative nuts after the last election. Hell, I have had 9mm on order since early September and now it is not expected in until December 21st and I would be willing to bet that gets changed again. The ammo manufacturers are certainly not going out of business. In fact, they have been working three shifts just attempting to keep up with demand. Just point your browser to http://tinyurl.com/yb7ndrq and note that after you get down to the 4th row (after the specialty stuff) that everything is back ordered! Holy crap. I haven't checked ammo prices in a while. That site gave me a headache. Two years ago, I bought .40 cal Speer Lawman for $10 per box. |
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IGot2P wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote: Subject: National Ammo Day http://www.ammoday.com/ A brief explanation - What is National Ammo Day? November 19 is National Ammo Day. It is a nationwide BUYcott of ammunition. You buy ammunition. 100 Rounds a person. The goals of Ammo Day: The goal of National Ammo Day is to empty the ammunition from the shelves of your local gun store, sporting goods, or hardware store and put that ammunition in the hands of law-abiding citizens. Make your support of the Second Amendment known--by voting with your dollars! There are an estimated 75 MILLION gun owners in the United States of America. If each gun owner or Second Amendment supporter buys 100 rounds of ammunition, that's 7.5 BILLION rounds in the hands of law-abiding citizens! The gun/ammunition manufacturers have been taking the brunt of all the frivolous lawsuits, trying to put these folks out of business. Well, not if we can help it! And we CAN help it by buying ammunition on November 19! Where have you been, or not been, for the last several months? There is basically no ammo out there to be purchased as it was all purchased and hoarded by the ultra conservative nuts after the last election. Hell, I have had 9mm on order since early September and now it is not expected in until December 21st and I would be willing to bet that gets changed again. The ammo manufacturers are certainly not going out of business. In fact, they have been working three shifts just attempting to keep up with demand. Just point your browser to http://tinyurl.com/yb7ndrq and note that after you get down to the 4th row (after the specialty stuff) that everything is back ordered! In short, your idea is not only a bad idea, it is also several months late. Don For sure, ammo has been in short supply for the exact reason you described. And the cost of the little that is available is breathtaking. |
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IGot2P wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote: Subject: National Ammo Day http://www.ammoday.com/ A brief explanation - What is National Ammo Day? November 19 is National Ammo Day. It is a nationwide BUYcott of ammunition. You buy ammunition. 100 Rounds a person. The goals of Ammo Day: The goal of National Ammo Day is to empty the ammunition from the shelves of your local gun store, sporting goods, or hardware store and put that ammunition in the hands of law-abiding citizens. Make your support of the Second Amendment known--by voting with your dollars! There are an estimated 75 MILLION gun owners in the United States of America. If each gun owner or Second Amendment supporter buys 100 rounds of ammunition, that's 7.5 BILLION rounds in the hands of law-abiding citizens! The gun/ammunition manufacturers have been taking the brunt of all the frivolous lawsuits, trying to put these folks out of business. Well, not if we can help it! And we CAN help it by buying ammunition on November 19! Where have you been, or not been, for the last several months? There is basically no ammo out there to be purchased as it was all purchased and hoarded by the ultra conservative nuts after the last election. Hell, I have had 9mm on order since early September and now it is not expected in until December 21st and I would be willing to bet that gets changed again. The ammo manufacturers are certainly not going out of business. In fact, they have been working three shifts just attempting to keep up with demand. Just point your browser to http://tinyurl.com/yb7ndrq and note that after you get down to the 4th row (after the specialty stuff) that everything is back ordered! In short, your idea is not only a bad idea, it is also several months late. Don The volume of ammo that has been purchased over the past year is far far in excess of anything that could be attributed to "ultra conservative nuts". The fact is that tens of millions of Americans have been buying both guns and ammo, including a lot of folks who formerly thought of themselves as pro gun control. It's been something of an awakening of people to their gun rights. In some left leaning states there are gun shortages as well, not just ammo. |
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IGot2P wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote: Subject: National Ammo Day http://www.ammoday.com/ A brief explanation - What is National Ammo Day? November 19 is National Ammo Day. It is a nationwide BUYcott of ammunition. You buy ammunition. 100 Rounds a person. The goals of Ammo Day: The goal of National Ammo Day is to empty the ammunition from the shelves of your local gun store, sporting goods, or hardware store and put that ammunition in the hands of law-abiding citizens. Make your support of the Second Amendment known--by voting with your dollars! There are an estimated 75 MILLION gun owners in the United States of America. If each gun owner or Second Amendment supporter buys 100 rounds of ammunition, that's 7.5 BILLION rounds in the hands of law-abiding citizens! The gun/ammunition manufacturers have been taking the brunt of all the frivolous lawsuits, trying to put these folks out of business. Well, not if we can help it! And we CAN help it by buying ammunition on November 19! Where have you been, or not been, for the last several months? There is basically no ammo out there to be purchased as it was all purchased and hoarded by the ultra conservative nuts after the last election. Hell, I have had 9mm on order since early September and now it is not expected in until December 21st and I would be willing to bet that gets changed again. The ammo manufacturers are certainly not going out of business. In fact, they have been working three shifts just attempting to keep up with demand. Just point your browser to http://tinyurl.com/yb7ndrq and note that after you get down to the 4th row (after the specialty stuff) that everything is back ordered! In short, your idea is not only a bad idea, it is also several months late. Don Are you one of those ultra conservative nuts? Remember, gun nuts should always be protected by a properly fitted cup. TDD |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
Subject: National Ammo Day http://www.ammoday.com/ A brief explanation - What is National Ammo Day? November 19 is National Ammo Day. It is a nationwide BUYcott of ammunition. You buy ammunition. 100 Rounds a person. The goals of Ammo Day: The goal of National Ammo Day is to empty the ammunition from the shelves of your local gun store, sporting goods, or hardware store and put that ammunition in the hands of law-abiding citizens. Make your support of the Second Amendment known--by voting with your dollars! There are an estimated 75 MILLION gun owners in the United States of America. If each gun owner or Second Amendment supporter buys 100 rounds of ammunition, that's 7.5 BILLION rounds in the hands of law-abiding citizens! CORRECTION: Each person buying 100 rounds is patchwork. There are (about) 260 million guns in the U.S. What needs to happen is each gun owner should buy 100 rounds PER WEAPON. For example, 100 rounds of 9 mm for my Uzi won't fit my AK47 no matter how many curse words I use. If that kind of standard is followed, we're talking 26 billion bullets. Sadly, though, there are not 26 billion cartridges, nor, for that matter, 7.5 billion, available for sale. On the plus side, ammunition has a shelf-life measured in multiple decades, so one could start stocking up (and hope that he's not overtaken by events). The market is, however, growing. A report out just today says there were over 1 million gun purchases in September (+12%). While gun owners are often like cat owners (they typically have more than one), this increase no doubt includes a significant number of first-time buyers. http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle6917828.ece |
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:42:09 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote: The market is, however, growing. A report out just today says there were over 1 million gun purchases in September (+12%). While gun owners are often like cat owners (they typically have more than one), this increase no doubt includes a significant number of first-time buyers. http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle6917828.ece The report doesn't mention (I know that) how many guns changed hands over an adult beverage. Then the numbers go up. |
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Oren wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:42:09 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote: The market is, however, growing. A report out just today says there were over 1 million gun purchases in September (+12%). While gun owners are often like cat owners (they typically have more than one), this increase no doubt includes a significant number of first-time buyers. http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle6917828.ece The report doesn't mention (I know that) how many guns changed hands over an adult beverage. Then the numbers go up. There's another possibility. In some states, possession of a Concealed Handgun License exempts the bearer from the NICS check, so the FBI has no knowledge of those transactions (probably not a lot). Some other folks are also exempt, such as peace officers. Even though I'm exempt from an NICS check, I make it a practice to NEVER buy a gun from a dealer. |
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"HeyBub" wrote in message
m... Oren wrote: On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:42:09 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote: The market is, however, growing. A report out just today says there were over 1 million gun purchases in September (+12%). While gun owners are often like cat owners (they typically have more than one), this increase no doubt includes a significant number of first-time buyers. http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle6917828.ece The report doesn't mention (I know that) how many guns changed hands over an adult beverage. Then the numbers go up. There's another possibility. In some states, possession of a Concealed Handgun License exempts the bearer from the NICS check, so the FBI has no knowledge of those transactions (probably not a lot). Some other folks are also exempt, such as peace officers. Even though I'm exempt from an NICS check, I make it a practice to NEVER buy a gun from a dealer. So, what do you do if you want a brand new gun? |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Even though I'm exempt from an NICS check, I make it a practice to NEVER buy a gun from a dealer. So, what do you do if you want a brand new gun? NIB or new to me? For new-to-me, I generally buy guns from individuals at gun shows (the so-called "gun show loophole"). Of these, there are two kinds: The guy who rented a table (~$100) to facilitate his private buying and selling, and the guy walking around with a gun in his hand (code for "stop me and ask how much I'll take"). I've picked up a couple of guns at estate sales, but they're generally over-priced. Hint: If you represent a corporation, the corporation can buy a gun without a background check. This is most useful for buying fully-automatic weapons. When asked on the ATF form for the purpose of obtaining a fully-automatic weapon, the appropriate answer is "investment." |
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On 11/17/2009 5:40 AM Stormin Mormon spake thus:
There are an estimated 75 MILLION gun owners in the United States of America. If each gun owner or Second Amendment supporter buys 100 rounds of ammunition, that's 7.5 BILLION rounds in the hands of law-abiding citizens! So how, exactly, do you know that all of these ammo-buyers are what you call "law-abiding citizens"? This oughta be interesting ... -- I am a Canadian who was born and raised in The Netherlands. I live on Planet Earth on a spot of land called Canada. We have noisy neighbours. - harvested from Usenet |
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:44:04 -0800, David Nebenzahl
wrote: On 11/17/2009 5:40 AM Stormin Mormon spake thus: There are an estimated 75 MILLION gun owners in the United States of America. If each gun owner or Second Amendment supporter buys 100 rounds of ammunition, that's 7.5 BILLION rounds in the hands of law-abiding citizens! So how, exactly, do you know that all of these ammo-buyers are what you call "law-abiding citizens"? What's your point? |
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And, do you think crooks behaviour will be changed by a
usenet post? -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "David Nebenzahl" wrote in message .com... My point, if one were too dense to deduce it from my question, is this: how many of those 7.5 billion rounds would end up in the hands of those you'd rather it not (like people who might want to rip you off or otherwise do you harm)? -- I am a Canadian who was born and raised in The Netherlands. I live on Planet Earth on a spot of land called Canada. We have noisy neighbours. - harvested from Usenet |
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On 11/17/2009 5:14 PM Stormin Mormon spake thus:
And, do you think crooks behaviour will be changed by a usenet post? Not in the least. [The rest of your post was lost due to incorrect settings, apparently, in your news client that puts everything below into your sig. I'll post more on this later ...] -- I am a Canadian who was born and raised in The Netherlands. I live on Planet Earth on a spot of land called Canada. We have noisy neighbours. - harvested from Usenet |
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So how, exactly, do you know that all of these ammo-buyers are what you call "law-abiding citizens"? What's your point? My point, if one were too dense to deduce it from my question, is this: how many of those 7.5 billion rounds would end up in the hands of those you'd rather it not (like people who might want to rip you off or otherwise do you harm)? Well," if one were too dense" to deduce the flaw in your question, hence my question, the I'll have to explain. 1. For every box of ammo sold to each non law abiding citizen I would hope at least one or more boxes would be sold to each law abiding citizen. 2. If you are implying sales of ammo should be limited because a non law abiding citizen may purchase some then you must also believe that sales of cars should be limited. For some non law abiding citizen may use it as a get away car. |
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David Nebenzahl wrote:
What's your point? My point, if one were too dense to deduce it from my question, is this: how many of those 7.5 billion rounds would end up in the hands of those you'd rather it not (like people who might want to rip you off or otherwise do you harm)? Interesting. I hadn't considered that. Now that I have, I still don't care. Well, I CARE a little bit, but the alternatives are far worse than a handfull of do-bads stocking up on ammunition. Chances are that the goblins who end up with a trunkfull of bullets will use them mostly to kill other goblins. So that's good. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
Subject: National Ammo Day http://www.ammoday.com/ A brief explanation - What is National Ammo Day? November 19 is National Ammo Day. It is a nationwide BUYcott of ammunition. You buy ammunition. 100 Rounds a person. The goals of Ammo Day: The goal of National Ammo Day is to empty the ammunition from the shelves of your local gun store, sporting goods, or hardware store and put that ammunition in the hands of law-abiding citizens. My understanding is that the shelves are already empty, and ammo is as high as it has ever been in price. This helps how? |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote:
Subject: National Ammo Day http://www.ammoday.com/ I jumped the gun and bought mine today. I found 200 rnds of 45 at Walmart today. -- Jim Rusling More or Less Retired Mustang, OK http://www.rusling.org |
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