The water pressure coming into the house from the street is about 100
psi, if not higher. This causes a problem in our bathtub/shower unit.
Our tub has individual H/C valves that feed into the tub and shower
head. When the valves are open, water comes out of the tub spicket,
but then will also drip out of the shower head. This happens more
intendely if both vales are completely open, but also happens if the
valves are partially open (of course not as much) I'm pretty sure
that this is being caused by the high water pressure. I don't suspect
a blockage in the valves or spickets, since I recently replaced them.
I've thought about the closing the shutoff valves behind the tub, but
I don't want to restrict the volumn, since this is for a large jetted
tub, which takes a wile anyway to fill up. Any ideas?

Rob

rlz wrote:
The water pressure coming into the house from the street is about 100
psi, if not higher. This causes a problem in our bathtub/shower unit.
Our tub has individual H/C valves that feed into the tub and shower
head. When the valves are open, water comes out of the tub spicket,
but then will also drip out of the shower head. This happens more
intendely if both vales are completely open, but also happens if the
valves are partially open (of course not as much) I'm pretty sure
that this is being caused by the high water pressure. I don't suspect
a blockage in the valves or spickets, since I recently replaced them.
I've thought about the closing the shutoff valves behind the tub, but
I don't want to restrict the volumn, since this is for a large jetted
tub, which takes a wile anyway to fill up. Any ideas?

Rob
Hi, No regulator? Our water pressure was like that and we installed
regulator and it is at 60 psi.

On Nov 10, 7:56*pm, rlz wrote:
The water pressure coming into the house from the street is about 100
psi, if not higher. *This causes a problem in our bathtub/shower unit.
Our tub has individual H/C valves that feed into the tub and shower
head. When the valves are open, water comes out of the tub spicket,
but then will also drip out of the shower head. *This happens more
intendely if both vales are completely open, but also happens if the
valves are partially open (of course not as much) *I'm pretty sure
that this is being caused by the high water pressure. *I don't suspect
a blockage in the valves or spickets, since I recently replaced them.
I've thought about the closing the shutoff valves behind the tub, but
I don't want to restrict the volumn, since this is for a large jetted
tub, which takes a wile anyway to fill up. *Any ideas?

Rob

As Tony says, install a pressure reducer where the supply enters the
house. 60 psi is the highest recommended residential pressure.

Harry K

I was talking to some customers where I was doing an a/c install a while
back, and they were telling me that they had their nearly new water
softener blew out some seal on it. It was repaired under warranty, but
the repairman told them the water pressure was way too high-- forget the
exact pressure-- and that they would have to have a pressure regulator
installed (and probably that if they didn't, they would not repair the
seal again free). Anyway, he said the city was raising the pressure to
insure adequate pressure in the outlaying areas that were rapidly being
developed, and it was causing all kinds of problems. Lucky for the OP,
he didn't find out with some kind of catostrophic rupture/blowout, and
resulting flood. The water softener people were lucky the softener was
in the garage with a lower floor than the house, so they had minimal
damage. They had a regulator installed right away, as did a lot of their
neighbors. I've never checked mine, but it is a private water system
with it's own well that only services this (about 40 y/o) subdivision of
100 or so homes. Larry

rlz wrote:
The water pressure coming into the house from the street is about 100
psi, if not higher. This causes a problem in our bathtub/shower unit.
Our tub has individual H/C valves that feed into the tub and shower
head. When the valves are open, water comes out of the tub spicket,
but then will also drip out of the shower head. This happens more
intendely if both vales are completely open, but also happens if the
valves are partially open (of course not as much) I'm pretty sure
that this is being caused by the high water pressure. I don't suspect
a blockage in the valves or spickets, since I recently replaced them.
I've thought about the closing the shutoff valves behind the tub, but
I don't want to restrict the volumn, since this is for a large jetted
tub, which takes a wile anyway to fill up. Any ideas?

Rob

You just need to install a pressure regulator and thermal expansion
tank. The 100 psi was never intended for direct use. It is just classic
good design to have high pressure in any sort of main line and a
regulator near the point of utilization. For some reason they left the
regulator out in your house.

On Nov 10, 9:49*pm, (Lp1331 1p1331) wrote:
I was talking to some customers where I was doing an a/c install a while
back, and they were telling me that they had their nearly new water
softener blew out some seal on it. It was repaired under warranty, but
the repairman told them the water pressure was way too high-- forget the
exact pressure-- and that they would have to have a pressure regulator
installed *(and probably that if they didn't, they would not repair the
seal again free). Anyway, he said the city was raising the pressure to
insure adequate pressure in the outlaying areas that were rapidly being
developed, and it was causing all kinds of problems. Lucky for the OP,
he didn't find out with some kind of catostrophic rupture/blowout, and
resulting flood. The water softener people were lucky the softener was
in the garage with a lower floor than the house, so they had minimal
damage. They had a regulator installed right away, as did a lot of their
neighbors. I've never checked mine, but it is a private water system
with it's own well that only services this (about 40 y/o) subdivision of
100 or so homes. * Larry

Our small town built a new wgter tank up on the rim of the canyon to
improve pressure at the higher points. Had things blowing all over
town. The fix of course was pressure regultors for anyone living on
the lower areas. No, the city would not pay for them.

Me and my brother had to put one in my mother's very old house. No
shut off valve. Yes it can be installed with full pressure but the
intaller(s) and everything in a half mile will get wet

Harry K

On Nov 10, 11:25*pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
rlz wrote:
The water pressure coming into the house from the street is about 100
psi, if not higher. *This causes a problem in our bathtub/shower unit..
Our tub has individual H/C valves that feed into the tub and shower
head. When the valves are open, water comes out of the tub spicket,
but then will also drip out of the shower head. *This happens more
intendely if both vales are completely open, but also happens if the
valves are partially open (of course not as much) *I'm pretty sure
that this is being caused by the high water pressure. *I don't suspect
a blockage in the valves or spickets, since I recently replaced them.
I've thought about the closing the shutoff valves behind the tub, but
I don't want to restrict the volumn, since this is for a large jetted
tub, which takes a wile anyway to fill up. *Any ideas?

Rob

Hi, No regulator? Our water pressure was like that and we installed
regulator and it is at 60 psi.

Consider keeping your outdoor spigots at street pressure. I just about
dont use my pressure washer anymore. I ordered one of those pressure
boosting wands you see on TV and the thing actually works when you
start out with 110 PSI into the thing.

Jimmie

Jimmie

On Nov 11, 11:19*am, JIMMIE wrote:
On Nov 10, 11:25*pm, Tony Hwang wrote:





rlz wrote:
The water pressure coming into the house from the street is about 100
psi, if not higher. *This causes a problem in our bathtub/shower unit.
Our tub has individual H/C valves that feed into the tub and shower
head. When the valves are open, water comes out of the tub spicket,
but then will also drip out of the shower head. *This happens more
intendely if both vales are completely open, but also happens if the
valves are partially open (of course not as much) *I'm pretty sure
that this is being caused by the high water pressure. *I don't suspect
a blockage in the valves or spickets, since I recently replaced them.
I've thought about the closing the shutoff valves behind the tub, but
I don't want to restrict the volumn, since this is for a large jetted
tub, which takes a wile anyway to fill up. *Any ideas?

Rob

Hi, No regulator? Our water pressure was like that and we installed
regulator and it is at 60 psi.

Consider keeping your outdoor spigots at street pressure. I just about
dont use my pressure washer anymore. I ordered one of those pressure
boosting wands you see on TV and the thing actually works when you
start out with 110 PSI into the thing.

Jimmie

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My front spigot is at street pressure, the backyard spigot isn't.

As soon as the weather turns bad enough to force me inside, I'll be
tapping into the pre-regulator section of pipe and running street
pressure to the backyard spigot also.

I'm going to try one of those sharkbite connectors and PEX.

On Nov 10, 10:56*pm, rlz wrote:
The water pressure coming into the house from the street is about 100
psi, if not higher. *This causes a problem in our bathtub/shower unit.
Our tub has individual H/C valves that feed into the tub and shower
head. When the valves are open, water comes out of the tub spicket,
but then will also drip out of the shower head. *This happens more
intendely if both vales are completely open, but also happens if the
valves are partially open (of course not as much) *I'm pretty sure
that this is being caused by the high water pressure. *I don't suspect
a blockage in the valves or spickets, since I recently replaced them.
I've thought about the closing the shutoff valves behind the tub, but
I don't want to restrict the volumn, since this is for a large jetted
tub, which takes a wile anyway to fill up. *Any ideas?

Rob

I ran into problems when my regulator failed.

Either you don't have one or the one you have went bad.

$60 and a couple of hours later (including travel) I was back at ~60
PSI at my fixtures.

Harry K wrote:

On Nov 10, 9:49 pm, (Lp1331 1p1331) wrote:

I was talking to some customers where I was doing an a/c install a while
back, and they were telling me that they had their nearly new water
softener blew out some seal on it. It was repaired under warranty, but
the repairman told them the water pressure was way too high-- forget the
exact pressure-- and that they would have to have a pressure regulator
installed (and probably that if they didn't, they would not repair the
seal again free). Anyway, he said the city was raising the pressure to
insure adequate pressure in the outlaying areas that were rapidly being
developed, and it was causing all kinds of problems. Lucky for the OP,
he didn't find out with some kind of catostrophic rupture/blowout, and
resulting flood. The water softener people were lucky the softener was
in the garage with a lower floor than the house, so they had minimal
damage. They had a regulator installed right away, as did a lot of their
neighbors. I've never checked mine, but it is a private water system
with it's own well that only services this (about 40 y/o) subdivision of
100 or so homes. Larry


Our small town built a new wgter tank up on the rim of the canyon to
improve pressure at the higher points. Had things blowing all over
town. The fix of course was pressure regultors for anyone living on
the lower areas. No, the city would not pay for them.

Me and my brother had to put one in my mother's very old house. No
shut off valve. Yes it can be installed with full pressure but the
intaller(s) and everything in a half mile will get wet

You never heard about pipe freezers?

http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/SF2500-Pipe-Freezer

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.

Never seen a domestic system with no shutoff, but then again, I suppose
anything is possible-- seen plenty with shutoffs that didn't work.
Interesting gadget that Jeff showed, but I didn't see a price-- I would
bet it is $$$$$. Years ago, a guy was telling me about working on the
chilled water a/c system in an old motel that had individual fan coils
in each room, with no valves, and shutting the system down when one coil
needed repair/replacement wasn't an option. He said they froze the lines
with dry ice and installed shutoffs on the inlet and outlet lines--
think he said they were 3/4 " copper, but I wouldn't swear to it
Larry.

No shut off valve at the street?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"Harry K" wrote in message
...

Our small town built a new wgter tank up on the rim of the
canyon to
improve pressure at the higher points. Had things blowing
all over
town. The fix of course was pressure regultors for anyone
living on
the lower areas. No, the city would not pay for them.

Me and my brother had to put one in my mother's very old
house. No
shut off valve. Yes it can be installed with full pressure
but the
intaller(s) and everything in a half mile will get wet

Harry K

That's a good idea. And also good for fire fighting, if
you're in brush fire area.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"JIMMIE" wrote in message
news:ef997d34-0164-4c48-b6ee-

Consider keeping your outdoor spigots at street pressure. I
just about
dont use my pressure washer anymore. I ordered one of those
pressure
boosting wands you see on TV and the thing actually works
when you
start out with 110 PSI into the thing.

Jimmie

Jimmie

Please check, see if those connectors (and Pex) will handle
the higher pressure. That could be unfortunate water damage
if not.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...

As soon as the weather turns bad enough to force me inside,
I'll be
tapping into the pre-regulator section of pipe and running
street
pressure to the backyard spigot also.

I'm going to try one of those sharkbite connectors and PEX.

Wouldn't you have to shut off everything in the house, for a
pipe freezer to work? Running water doesn't want to freeze.
I've never used one of these.

I have heard of packing the pipe in dry ice.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"jeff_wisnia" wrote in
message
...

Me and my brother had to put one in my mother's very old
house. No
shut off valve. Yes it can be installed with full
pressure but the
intaller(s) and everything in a half mile will get wet

You never heard about pipe freezers?

http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/SF2500-Pipe-Freezer

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.

On Nov 11, 6:33*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
No shut off valve at the street?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"Harry K" wrote in message

...

Our small town built a new wgter tank up on the rim of the
canyon to
improve pressure at the higher points. *Had things blowing
all over
town. The fix of course was pressure regultors for anyone
living on
the lower areas. *No, the city would not pay for them.

Me and my brother had to put one in my mother's very old
house. *No
shut off valve. *Yes it can be installed with full pressure
but the
intaller(s) and everything in a half mile will get wet

Harry K

Long story made short. The fertilizer companynext door to her
contaminated her well. We were allowed to tap into their supply line
but not shut off their water. It was a real 'red-neck' set-up from
the start. This was way back and now I am combing my brain, the wet
part of it must have been at the connection point. She also had a
pipeline up to a spring on the canyon side above her. We never did
find a shut-off to that. Must have been one though as the fertiliser
company bought the place after she died, tore down the house and
somehow had a dry basement. We had to keep a sump pump operational at
all times or wind up with a 3 ft deep wading pool.



Harry K