I have an outdoor floodlight fixture with a photo-cell to turn it on
at dusk and off at dawn. I can buy a screw-in photo-cell that works
with CFLs for only $8. If I cover the regular eye so it thinks it's
always dark and therefore will always be on, will the CFL work? It
would be cheaper than buying a new fixture.

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I have an outdoor floodlight fixture with a photo-cell to turn it on
at dusk and off at dawn. I can buy a screw-in photo-cell that works
with CFLs for only $8. If I cover the regular eye so it thinks it's
always dark and therefore will always be on, will the CFL work? It
would be cheaper than buying a new fixture.


*Put a CFL in the fixture and see if it works before you spend money on an
accessory. If the existing photocell worked with a regular bulb it should
work with a CFL.

wrote:
I have an outdoor floodlight fixture with a photo-cell to turn it on
at dusk and off at dawn. I can buy a screw-in photo-cell that works
with CFLs for only $8. If I cover the regular eye so it thinks it's
always dark and therefore will always be on, will the CFL work? It
would be cheaper than buying a new fixture.
Hmm,
Funny, why would you need another photo cell if there is one in the
fixture unless it is bad.

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I have an outdoor floodlight fixture with a photo-cell to turn it on
at dusk and off at dawn. I can buy a screw-in photo-cell that works
with CFLs for only $8. If I cover the regular eye so it thinks it's
always dark and therefore will always be on, will the CFL work? It
would be cheaper than buying a new fixture.


If the existing photocell won't work with a cfl, it won't matter if you add
one that is designed to work with cfl's to the system. Do as John
recommends, and see if it works. Be aware that not all Par38 CFL lamps will
fit in every PAR holder socket. Many are built in such a way that the
transformer hits the lip of the socket before the lamp screws down to the
tongue of the socket.

On Oct 18, 2:41*pm, "
wrote:
I have an outdoor floodlight fixture with a photo-cell to turn it on
at dusk and off at dawn. I can buy a screw-in photo-cell that works
with CFLs for only $8. If I cover the regular eye so it thinks it's
always dark and therefore will always be on, will the CFL work? *It
would be cheaper than buying a new fixture.

Why are you making more work for yourself, why havnt you just put in a
cfl to see what happens.

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:46:50 -0400, "John Grabowski"
wrote:


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I have an outdoor floodlight fixture with a photo-cell to turn it on
at dusk and off at dawn. I can buy a screw-in photo-cell that works
with CFLs for only $8. If I cover the regular eye so it thinks it's
always dark and therefore will always be on, will the CFL work? It
would be cheaper than buying a new fixture.


*Put a CFL in the fixture and see if it works before you spend money on an
accessory. If the existing photocell worked with a regular bulb it should
work with a CFL.

I've seen one instance where the CFL bulbs would flicker.. (new
construction/fixture/bulb(s), etc.) Never learned what the problem
was - the photo cell or the bulb.

RBM wrote:
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I have an outdoor floodlight fixture with a photo-cell to turn it on
at dusk and off at dawn. I can buy a screw-in photo-cell that works
with CFLs for only $8. If I cover the regular eye so it thinks it's
always dark and therefore will always be on, will the CFL work? It
would be cheaper than buying a new fixture.


If the existing photocell won't work with a cfl, it won't matter if you add
one that is designed to work with cfl's to the system. Do as John
recommends, and see if it works. Be aware that not all Par38 CFL lamps will
fit in every PAR holder socket. Many are built in such a way that the
transformer hits the lip of the socket before the lamp screws down to the
tongue of the socket.


Yeah, garage door opener light sockets are notorious for that.

Don

"IGot2P" wrote in message
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RBM wrote:
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I have an outdoor floodlight fixture with a photo-cell to turn it on
at dusk and off at dawn. I can buy a screw-in photo-cell that works
with CFLs for only $8. If I cover the regular eye so it thinks it's
always dark and therefore will always be on, will the CFL work? It
would be cheaper than buying a new fixture.


If the existing photocell won't work with a cfl, it won't matter if you
add one that is designed to work with cfl's to the system. Do as John
recommends, and see if it works. Be aware that not all Par38 CFL lamps
will fit in every PAR holder socket. Many are built in such a way that
the transformer hits the lip of the socket before the lamp screws down to
the tongue of the socket.

Yeah, garage door opener light sockets are notorious for that.

Don


You should use an "appliance lamp" in garage door operators, they are
physically smaller and handle the vibration better

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:03:53 -0500, IGot2P wrote:

RBM wrote:
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I have an outdoor floodlight fixture with a photo-cell to turn it on
at dusk and off at dawn. I can buy a screw-in photo-cell that works
with CFLs for only $8. If I cover the regular eye so it thinks it's
always dark and therefore will always be on, will the CFL work? It
would be cheaper than buying a new fixture.


If the existing photocell won't work with a cfl, it won't matter if you add
one that is designed to work with cfl's to the system. Do as John
recommends, and see if it works. Be aware that not all Par38 CFL lamps will
fit in every PAR holder socket. Many are built in such a way that the
transformer hits the lip of the socket before the lamp screws down to the
tongue of the socket.


Yeah, garage door opener light sockets are notorious for that.

Don


Last month I bought my first CFL bulb for 49 cents. Grabbed four more
for that price.

My GD opener is 5 years old. I put the CFL bulbs (two) in and presto.
Worked like a charm. The 3rd bulb went into a single ceramic light
socket on the ceiling. Same result.

IGot2P wrote:
RBM wrote:
wrote in message
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I have an outdoor floodlight fixture with a photo-cell to turn it on
at dusk and off at dawn. I can buy a screw-in photo-cell that works
with CFLs for only $8. If I cover the regular eye so it thinks it's
always dark and therefore will always be on, will the CFL work? It
would be cheaper than buying a new fixture.


If the existing photocell won't work with a cfl, it won't matter if
you add one that is designed to work with cfl's to the system. Do as
John recommends, and see if it works. Be aware that not all Par38 CFL
lamps will fit in every PAR holder socket. Many are built in such a
way that the transformer hits the lip of the socket before the lamp
screws down to the tongue of the socket.

Yeah, garage door opener light sockets are notorious for that.

Don


Hi,
My garage door opener has LED bulbs.

On 10/18/2009 1:21 PM RBM spake thus:

Be aware that not all Par38 CFL lamps will fit in every PAR holder
socket. Many are built in such a way that the transformer hits the
lip of the socket before the lamp screws down to the tongue of the
socket.

Easily remedied by screwing in a socket extension (male-female extender,
available everywhere).


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"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message
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On 10/18/2009 1:21 PM RBM spake thus:

Be aware that not all Par38 CFL lamps will fit in every PAR holder
socket. Many are built in such a way that the transformer hits the
lip of the socket before the lamp screws down to the tongue of the
socket.

Easily remedied by screwing in a socket extension (male-female extender,
available everywhere).

I just ran into some, that a ceramic socket extension wouldn't fit either

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On 10/18/2009 4:53 PM RBM spake thus:

"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message
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On 10/18/2009 1:21 PM RBM spake thus:

Be aware that not all Par38 CFL lamps will fit in every PAR holder
socket. Many are built in such a way that the transformer hits the
lip of the socket before the lamp screws down to the tongue of the
socket.

Easily remedied by screwing in a socket extension (male-female extender,
available everywhere).

I just ran into some, that a ceramic socket extension wouldn't fit either

Hmm; guess there are all kinds of oddball lamps out there.

Wonder if there are any standards for CFL packages now, and if not, when
there will be? Don K?


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David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 10/18/2009 4:53 PM RBM spake thus:

"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message
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On 10/18/2009 1:21 PM RBM spake thus:

Be aware that not all Par38 CFL lamps will fit in every PAR holder
socket. Many are built in such a way that the transformer hits the
lip of the socket before the lamp screws down to the tongue of the
socket.

Easily remedied by screwing in a socket extension (male-female
extender, available everywhere).

I just ran into some, that a ceramic socket extension wouldn't fit either

Hmm; guess there are all kinds of oddball lamps out there.

Wonder if there are any standards for CFL packages now, and if not, when
there will be? Don K?


How did that quote go again? 'Standards are wonderful- there are always
so many to choose from', or something like that. Attributed to several
different people, including Grace Hopper, according to Google,.

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John Grabowski wrote:

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I have an outdoor floodlight fixture with a photo-cell to turn it on
at dusk and off at dawn. I can buy a screw-in photo-cell that works
with CFLs for only $8. If I cover the regular eye so it thinks it's
always dark and therefore will always be on, will the CFL work? It
would be cheaper than buying a new fixture.


*Put a CFL in the fixture and see if it works before you spend money on
an accessory. If the existing photocell worked with a regular bulb it
should work with a CFL.


It will work, sort of. Then the CFL will die in just a few
weeks. They don't like that transition when the photocell is
just turning on for 5 minutes or so. BTDT.

Bob

zxcvbob wrote:
John Grabowski wrote:

wrote in message
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I have an outdoor floodlight fixture with a photo-cell to turn it on
at dusk and off at dawn. I can buy a screw-in photo-cell that works
with CFLs for only $8. If I cover the regular eye so it thinks it's
always dark and therefore will always be on, will the CFL work? It
would be cheaper than buying a new fixture.


*Put a CFL in the fixture and see if it works before you spend money
on an accessory. If the existing photocell worked with a regular bulb
it should work with a CFL.


It will work, sort of. Then the CFL will die in just a few weeks. They
don't like that transition when the photocell is just turning on for 5
minutes or so. BTDT.

Bob

For a heavily cycled, but short run-time light like that, CFL doesn't
make much sense. And in cold weather, lag time on startup will be annoying.

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