Emboldened by my vast, bold previous experiences, I embarked upon
another journey into the dark mysterious world of toilets.

When I pulled out the old toilet and saw this, I knew that I wasn't
meant to explore beyond my own tiny pond of a universe:

http://i30.tinypic.com/2mwujqr.jpg (side view)
http://i31.tinypic.com/xpphts.jpg (top view)

Although I was filled with dread, I threw caution to the winds and
placed the new toilet upon the resting place.
Alas, my heart sunk when I felt the toilet rocking back and forth. I

I looked at the bottom of the new toilet:

http://i32.tinypic.com/2djrmrs.jpg

I measured the interior depth. About 1/2". Then I measured the old
toilet clearance: About 7/8". Oops.

How would Joe the Plumber resolve this? Umm, like tonight. Or better
yet, right now.

On Sep 13, 6:18*pm, John wrote:
Emboldened by my vast, bold previous experiences, I embarked upon
another journey into the dark mysterious world of toilets.

When I pulled out the old toilet and saw this, I knew that I wasn't
meant to explore beyond my own tiny pond of a universe:

http://i30.tinypic.com/2mwujqr.jpg*(side view)http://i31.tinypic.com/xpphts.jpg* *(top view)

Although I was filled with dread, I threw caution to the winds and
placed the new toilet upon the resting place.
Alas, my heart sunk when I felt the toilet rocking back and forth. *I

I looked at the bottom of the new toilet:

http://i32.tinypic.com/2djrmrs.jpg

I measured the interior depth. *About 1/2". *Then I measured the old
toilet clearance: *About 7/8". *Oops.

How would Joe the Plumber resolve this? *Umm, like tonight. *Or better
yet, right now.

If running out to lowes or home depot to get a different toilet is not
an option...

1) shim around the edges of the toilet to prevent rocking.
they actually sell wedges for this.
paint sticks or plywood scraps will work for now

2) cut off the old flange and 'slide' in a new one.
http://tinyurl.com/q8eepx
note that for some reason the 3" slide in is much longer than the
4" ones
I think Lowes & HD sell both sizes

3) get a bucket for the time being...

Good luck!

Limp Arbor wrote:
On Sep 13, 6:18 pm, John wrote:
Emboldened by my vast, bold previous experiences, I embarked upon
another journey into the dark mysterious world of toilets.

When I pulled out the old toilet and saw this, I knew that I wasn't
meant to explore beyond my own tiny pond of a universe:

http://i30.tinypic.com/2mwujqr.jpg (side view)http://i31.tinypic.com/xpphts.jpg (top view)

Although I was filled with dread, I threw caution to the winds and
placed the new toilet upon the resting place.
Alas, my heart sunk when I felt the toilet rocking back and forth. I

I looked at the bottom of the new toilet:

http://i32.tinypic.com/2djrmrs.jpg

I measured the interior depth. About 1/2". Then I measured the old
toilet clearance: About 7/8". Oops.

How would Joe the Plumber resolve this? Umm, like tonight. Or better
yet, right now.

If running out to lowes or home depot to get a different toilet is not
an option...

1) shim around the edges of the toilet to prevent rocking.
they actually sell wedges for this.
paint sticks or plywood scraps will work for now

2) cut off the old flange and 'slide' in a new one.
http://tinyurl.com/q8eepx
note that for some reason the 3" slide in is much longer than the
4" ones
I think Lowes & HD sell both sizes

3) get a bucket for the time being...

Good luck!


I didn't receive your post until much later.

Here's the solution I came up:

In several layers, I put a ton of clear sealant on the bottom of the
toilet. I let the sealant firm up for about 4 hours before placing the
toilet onto the floor. I used about 3/4 of a tube of sealant to create
this gasket.

Afterwards, I used the remainder of the tube to fill in the gaps.

Here's a picture of the toilet nearly 10 hours later. The glue is still
milky since it hasn't cured yet. It'll probably take the rest of the
week to cure and become clear.

The toilet is now firm and doesn't rock in the least.

http://i31.tinypic.com/345bevb.jpg

What really ****es me off is that each time I start a project, I find
that the builders took every conceivable shortcut imaginable, or they
were stupid and or lazy, and the project takes me a few hours extra to
complete. Assembling the toilet took less than 20 minutes. All the
other crap took hours.

On Sep 14, 7:11*am, John wrote:
Limp Arbor wrote:
On Sep 13, 6:18 pm, John wrote:
Emboldened by my vast, bold previous experiences, I embarked upon
another journey into the dark mysterious world of toilets.

When I pulled out the old toilet and saw this, I knew that I wasn't
meant to explore beyond my own tiny pond of a universe:

http://i30.tinypic.com/2mwujqr.jpg(side view)http://i31.tinypic.com/xpphts.jpg* (top view)

Although I was filled with dread, I threw caution to the winds and
placed the new toilet upon the resting place.
Alas, my heart sunk when I felt the toilet rocking back and forth. *I

I looked at the bottom of the new toilet:

http://i32.tinypic.com/2djrmrs.jpg

I measured the interior depth. *About 1/2". *Then I measured the old
toilet clearance: *About 7/8". *Oops.

How would Joe the Plumber resolve this? *Umm, like tonight. *Or better
yet, right now.

If running out to lowes or home depot to get a different toilet is not
an option...

1) shim around the edges of the toilet to prevent rocking.
* *they actually sell wedges for this.
* *paint sticks or plywood scraps will work for now

2) cut off the old flange and 'slide' in a new one.
* *http://tinyurl.com/q8eepx
* *note that for some reason the 3" slide in is much longer than the
4" ones
* *I think Lowes & HD sell both sizes

3) get a bucket for the time being...

Good luck!

I didn't receive your post until much later.

Here's the solution I came up:

In several layers, I put a ton of clear sealant on the bottom of the
toilet. *I let the sealant firm up for about 4 hours before placing the
toilet onto the floor. *I used about 3/4 of a tube of sealant to create
this gasket.

Afterwards, I used the remainder of the tube to fill in the gaps.

Here's a picture of the toilet nearly 10 hours later. *The glue is still
milky since it hasn't cured yet. *It'll probably take the rest of the
week to cure and become clear.

The toilet is now firm and doesn't rock in the least.

http://i31.tinypic.com/345bevb.jpg

What really ****es me off is that each time I start a project, I find
that the builders took every conceivable shortcut imaginable, or they
were stupid and or lazy, and the project takes me a few hours extra to
complete. *Assembling the toilet took less than 20 minutes. *All the
other crap took hours.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

unfortunately your solution has two problems

1 If the wax ring leaks you won't know until the waste water builds
up enough to leak below. Don't know if it is correct or not but I
always leave the base of the toilet unsealed so if there is a leak
I'll know quickly.

2 When that silicone fully cures you'll need dynamite to remove that
toilet.

"Limp Arbor" wrote in message
...
On Sep 14, 7:11 am, John wrote:
Limp Arbor wrote:
On Sep 13, 6:18 pm, John wrote:
Emboldened by my vast, bold previous experiences, I embarked upon
another journey into the dark mysterious world of toilets.

When I pulled out the old toilet and saw this, I knew that I wasn't
meant to explore beyond my own tiny pond of a universe:

http://i30.tinypic.com/2mwujqr.jpg(side
view)http://i31.tinypic.com/xpphts.jpg (top view)

Although I was filled with dread, I threw caution to the winds and
placed the new toilet upon the resting place.
Alas, my heart sunk when I felt the toilet rocking back and forth. I

I looked at the bottom of the new toilet:

http://i32.tinypic.com/2djrmrs.jpg

I measured the interior depth. About 1/2". Then I measured the old
toilet clearance: About 7/8". Oops.

How would Joe the Plumber resolve this? Umm, like tonight. Or better
yet, right now.

If running out to lowes or home depot to get a different toilet is not
an option...

1) shim around the edges of the toilet to prevent rocking.
they actually sell wedges for this.
paint sticks or plywood scraps will work for now

2) cut off the old flange and 'slide' in a new one.
http://tinyurl.com/q8eepx
note that for some reason the 3" slide in is much longer than the
4" ones
I think Lowes & HD sell both sizes

3) get a bucket for the time being...

Good luck!

I didn't receive your post until much later.

Here's the solution I came up:

In several layers, I put a ton of clear sealant on the bottom of the
toilet. I let the sealant firm up for about 4 hours before placing the
toilet onto the floor. I used about 3/4 of a tube of sealant to create
this gasket.

Afterwards, I used the remainder of the tube to fill in the gaps.

Here's a picture of the toilet nearly 10 hours later. The glue is still
milky since it hasn't cured yet. It'll probably take the rest of the
week to cure and become clear.

The toilet is now firm and doesn't rock in the least.

http://i31.tinypic.com/345bevb.jpg

What really ****es me off is that each time I start a project, I find
that the builders took every conceivable shortcut imaginable, or they
were stupid and or lazy, and the project takes me a few hours extra to
complete. Assembling the toilet took less than 20 minutes. All the
other crap took hours.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

unfortunately your solution has two problems

1 If the wax ring leaks you won't know until the waste water builds
up enough to leak below. Don't know if it is correct or not but I
always leave the base of the toilet unsealed so if there is a leak
I'll know quickly.

2 When that silicone fully cures you'll need dynamite to remove that
toilet.

----
a razor knife will cut through that pretty quickly. cleaning up the floor to
replace it won't be very easy, as nothing, including itself, will stick to
the cured silicone.

On Sep 14, 6:11*am, John wrote:
Limp Arbor wrote:
On Sep 13, 6:18 pm, John wrote:
Emboldened by my vast, bold previous experiences, I embarked upon
another journey into the dark mysterious world of toilets.

When I pulled out the old toilet and saw this, I knew that I wasn't
meant to explore beyond my own tiny pond of a universe:

http://i30.tinypic.com/2mwujqr.jpg(side view)http://i31.tinypic.com/xpphts.jpg* (top view)

Although I was filled with dread, I threw caution to the winds and
placed the new toilet upon the resting place.
Alas, my heart sunk when I felt the toilet rocking back and forth. *I

I looked at the bottom of the new toilet:

http://i32.tinypic.com/2djrmrs.jpg

I measured the interior depth. *About 1/2". *Then I measured the old
toilet clearance: *About 7/8". *Oops.

How would Joe the Plumber resolve this? *Umm, like tonight. *Or better
yet, right now.

If running out to lowes or home depot to get a different toilet is not
an option...

1) shim around the edges of the toilet to prevent rocking.
* *they actually sell wedges for this.
* *paint sticks or plywood scraps will work for now

2) cut off the old flange and 'slide' in a new one.
* *http://tinyurl.com/q8eepx
* *note that for some reason the 3" slide in is much longer than the
4" ones
* *I think Lowes & HD sell both sizes

3) get a bucket for the time being...

Good luck!

I didn't receive your post until much later.

Here's the solution I came up:

In several layers, I put a ton of clear sealant on the bottom of the
toilet. *I let the sealant firm up for about 4 hours before placing the
toilet onto the floor. *I used about 3/4 of a tube of sealant to create
this gasket.

Afterwards, I used the remainder of the tube to fill in the gaps.

Here's a picture of the toilet nearly 10 hours later. *The glue is still
milky since it hasn't cured yet. *It'll probably take the rest of the
week to cure and become clear.

The toilet is now firm and doesn't rock in the least.

http://i31.tinypic.com/345bevb.jpg

What really ****es me off is that each time I start a project, I find
that the builders took every conceivable shortcut imaginable, or they
were stupid and or lazy, and the project takes me a few hours extra to
complete. *Assembling the toilet took less than 20 minutes. *All the
other crap took hours.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You don't mention putting a new wax ring on the bottom of the toilet
or on the top of the flange, If it leaks, you'll never know until the
floor rots out or the odor becomes unmisteakable.