My Zephyr weather station arrived today. PWS1000-TDx

The "x" model is much cheaper because of a blemish on the bezel. I can find
a spot the size of a pin head that is not perfect if I really look hard.

I took about an hour to get the parts sorted out and assembled. The sensors
are all mounted on an included pole that gets mounted atop your own mast.
Parts fill together well and everything worked. You have 45 seconds to get
the batteries in the base and then the remote unit. I missed the first
time, bt easily did it the second time because I had the batteries in place
and just pushed the last one in the holder and they started to commnicate.

Everything on the display works and the termperature is accurate. I tried
the rain gauge by pouring some water in it, but a few hours later, nature
gave me a real test with a thunderstorm. You can get accumulated readings
for the hour, day, week, month.

The outside unit takes two AA batteries. Since we get -0 temperatures at
times, I used lithium batteries outside and regular alkaline in the base.

Now I have to get my computer back from the shop and try the software.
Ed

"Ed" wrote in
:

My Zephyr weather station arrived today. PWS1000-TDx

The "x" model is much cheaper because of a blemish on the bezel. I can
find a spot the size of a pin head that is not perfect if I really
look hard.

I took about an hour to get the parts sorted out and assembled. The
sensors are all mounted on an included pole that gets mounted atop
your own mast. Parts fill together well and everything worked. You
have 45 seconds to get the batteries in the base and then the remote
unit. I missed the first time, bt easily did it the second time
because I had the batteries in place and just pushed the last one in
the holder and they started to commnicate.

Everything on the display works and the termperature is accurate. I
tried the rain gauge by pouring some water in it, but a few hours
later, nature gave me a real test with a thunderstorm. You can get
accumulated readings for the hour, day, week, month.

The outside unit takes two AA batteries. Since we get -0 temperatures
at times, I used lithium batteries outside and regular alkaline in the
base.

Now I have to get my computer back from the shop and try the software.
Ed




Thanks Ed. Mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. So, does the temp
sensor have a radiation shield which means it can be mounted in the sun?
If not, I'm confused abput something.

"Red Green" wrote in message
Thanks Ed. Mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. So, does the temp
sensor have a radiation shield which means it can be mounted in the sun?
If not, I'm confused abput something.

It is not stated, but there is an enclosure. I can tell better tomorrow if
there is sun for a change. So far, it seems to be accurate in the late
afternoon sun as compared to a thermometer in the shade. 23 or 29 days in
June have had rain so far and the next couple of days will also.

"Ed" wrote in
:


"Red Green" wrote in message
Thanks Ed. Mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. So, does the temp
sensor have a radiation shield which means it can be mounted in the
sun? If not, I'm confused abput something.

It is not stated, but there is an enclosure. I can tell better
tomorrow if there is sun for a change. So far, it seems to be accurate
in the late afternoon sun as compared to a thermometer in the shade.
23 or 29 days in June have had rain so far and the next couple of days
will also.




My S.O. is in northern VT right now. Has said nothing but rain as with you.
Here in NC it's been varying 90-99 with no rain for weeks and it's not even
July. The typical late afternoon thunderstorms are not existant. Guess I
need to pick up a 6-pack tomorrow...of alkalines that is.

"Ed" wrote in
:


"Red Green" wrote in message
Thanks Ed. Mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. So, does the temp
sensor have a radiation shield which means it can be mounted in the
sun? If not, I'm confused abput something.

It is not stated, but there is an enclosure. I can tell better
tomorrow if there is sun for a change. So far, it seems to be accurate
in the late afternoon sun as compared to a thermometer in the shade.
23 or 29 days in June have had rain so far and the next couple of days
will also.



I've been messing with mine when I can which hasn't been much. Haven't
mounted it yet. I found it takes a bit of time for the temp to settle
when there's been a sudden change where it would vary a few degrees.
Suppose that's good and maybe by design to avoid erroneous readings.

As far as the plastic vent shield enclosure for it, I'd say it's not very
effective. I had it stabilized in the shade then moved it into the sun.
It moved up some pretty quick. Didn't leave it there long to see how much
it rose.

I'll have to see about a mount location. I'm leaning towards mounting it
on the upper part of the roof rake end about 12'. The soffiet is pretty
wide so maybe I can mount the temp sensor there so it's in the shade. Of
course that presents that that area can tend to attract warmer air. As
far as extending it upwards, I found the short post that came with it
fits perfectly inside 3/4" copper pipe. At least that is fairly light,
rigid and can be painted. Was originally thinking some plastic PVC pipe
be even short lengths of a few feet would be too flexible during windy
times.

It's kind of neat that all the sensor connections are nothing more than
standard phone lines and jacks. Have to look into it but if the ones that
are with it are wired just like a phone, possible I can put the wind and
rain sensor in their ideal location and the temp sensor much farther away
in it's ideal location.

But wait! There's more!...I'm sure :-)

On Jul 1, 1:49*pm, Red Green wrote:
"Ed" wrote :



"Red Green" wrote in message
Thanks Ed. Mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. So, does the temp
sensor have a radiation shield which means it can be mounted in the
sun? If not, I'm confused abput something.

It is not stated, but there is an enclosure. *I can tell better
tomorrow if there is sun for a change. So far, it seems to be accurate
in the late afternoon sun as compared to a thermometer in the shade.
23 or 29 days in June have had rain so far and the next couple of days
will also.

I've been messing with mine when I can which hasn't been much. Haven't
mounted it yet. I found it takes a bit of time for the temp to settle
when there's been a sudden change where it would vary a few degrees.
Suppose that's good and maybe by design to avoid erroneous readings.

As far as the plastic vent shield enclosure for it, I'd say it's not very
effective. I had it stabilized in the shade then moved it into the sun.
It moved up some pretty quick. Didn't leave it there long to see how much
it rose.

I'll have to see about a mount location. I'm leaning towards mounting it
on the upper part of the roof rake end about 12'. The soffiet is pretty
wide so maybe I can mount the temp sensor there so it's in the shade. Of
course that presents that that area can tend to attract warmer air. As
far as extending it upwards, I found the short post that came with it
fits perfectly inside 3/4" copper pipe. At least that is fairly light,
rigid and can be painted. Was originally thinking some plastic PVC pipe
be even short lengths of a few feet would be too flexible during windy
times.

It's kind of neat that all the sensor connections are nothing more than
standard phone lines and jacks. Have to look into it but if the ones that
are with it are wired just like a phone, possible I can put the wind and
rain sensor in their ideal location and the temp sensor much farther away
in it's ideal location.

But wait! There's more!...I'm sure :-)

My only experience with weather stations was when I was stationed in
AK back in the late 70's. While on radio watch, you had to go out
every hour and take a bunch of readings from a number of instruments
in a wooden enclosure. The "wet bulb" was my 'favorite'. There was a
tubular-thermometer with a spinner handle attached. We would dip a
cloth casing in alcohol (?), slip it over the smart end of the
thermometer, spin the thermometer for some specified amount of time
and then immediately record the reading next to the standard "dry
bulb" reading. If I recall correctly, the readings had something to do
with determining the relative humidity.

I also recall that we went through a lot of thermometers 'cuz it's
kind of hard to hold onto the spinner handle when it's 35 below with
30 MPH winds and you're wearing these:

http://www.armynnavy.com/catalog/cat...ex%20Mitts.jpg

Ed wrote:
My Zephyr weather station arrived today. PWS1000-TDx

The "x" model is much cheaper because of a blemish on the bezel. ...

So where did you find that? Google thinks the x is a mistake...

--

Red Green wrote in
:

"Ed" wrote in
:


"Red Green" wrote in message
Thanks Ed. Mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. So, does the
temp sensor have a radiation shield which means it can be mounted in
the sun? If not, I'm confused abput something.

It is not stated, but there is an enclosure. I can tell better
tomorrow if there is sun for a change. So far, it seems to be
accurate in the late afternoon sun as compared to a thermometer in
the shade. 23 or 29 days in June have had rain so far and the next
couple of days will also.



I've been messing with mine when I can which hasn't been much. Haven't
mounted it yet. I found it takes a bit of time for the temp to settle
when there's been a sudden change where it would vary a few degrees.
Suppose that's good and maybe by design to avoid erroneous readings.

As far as the plastic vent shield enclosure for it, I'd say it's not
very effective. I had it stabilized in the shade then moved it into
the sun. It moved up some pretty quick. Didn't leave it there long to
see how much it rose.

I'll have to see about a mount location. I'm leaning towards mounting
it on the upper part of the roof rake end about 12'. The soffiet is
pretty wide so maybe I can mount the temp sensor there so it's in the
shade. Of course that presents that that area can tend to attract
warmer air. As far as extending it upwards, I found the short post
that came with it fits perfectly inside 3/4" copper pipe. At least
that is fairly light, rigid and can be painted. Was originally
thinking some plastic PVC pipe be even short lengths of a few feet
would be too flexible during windy times.

It's kind of neat that all the sensor connections are nothing more
than standard phone lines and jacks. Have to look into it but if the
ones that are with it are wired just like a phone, possible I can put
the wind and rain sensor in their ideal location and the temp sensor
much farther away in it's ideal location.

But wait! There's more!...I'm sure :-)



I got around to mounting it late today. I did mount it to near the peal
on one of the ends. The roofline at that point is about 15' and I put the
short pole supplied up higher by extending it. As I said, the supplied
pipe fits like a glove inside 3/4 copper pipe. So, the wind sensors are
up a good height with nothing blocking it. Adding the extra 5' of height
reduces/minimizes roof heat reflection. 5' was recommended in the
installation link I previously posted. I'll take some pics to spread
ideas.

The temp sensor is mounted pretty much under the soffit and will always
be shaded. I'm sure being close to the house surface and somewhat
shielded from wind will introduce some error but the error when sun was
on it was way out of line IMO.

Wonder if I've introduced a brain fart raising the mast. We have not had
rain in weeks. I get the pole mounted to the house and am all set to
place instruments. It gets dark, rumbles and some lightning starting.
Time to put this aside since I'm up on the roof. Then I'm thinking I put
this COPPER pipe above the roofline. Only thing higher is the chimney and
a much much higher stand of pine trees maybe 40 ft away.

Is this 5' mast gonna be a "Yo, hello lightning bolt. Over here."? The
pipe is mounted to the house fascia and sensor connections are all
wireless to indoors.

"Red Green" wrote in message
I'll have to see about a mount location. I'm leaning towards mounting it
on the upper part of the roof rake end about 12'. The soffiet is pretty
wide so maybe I can mount the temp sensor there so it's in the shade. Of
course that presents that that area can tend to attract warmer air. As
far as extending it upwards, I found the short post that came with it
fits perfectly inside 3/4" copper pipe. At least that is fairly light,
rigid and can be painted. Was originally thinking some plastic PVC pipe
be even short lengths of a few feet would be too flexible during windy
times.

It's kind of neat that all the sensor connections are nothing more than
standard phone lines and jacks. Have to look into it but if the ones that
are with it are wired just like a phone, possible I can put the wind and
rain sensor in their ideal location and the temp sensor much farther away
in it's ideal location.

But wait! There's more!...I'm sure :-)

I have mine on a temporary pole. My wife wants me to put a 4 x 4 in the
corner of the deck to hang a planter. I'm thinking I can mount the station
on the top or the other side. I too, have noticed the temperature high in
the sun, but I'm not sure by exactly how much yet so I may extend the cord
down below the deck where it will be in the shade. My deck is 8' above grade
so there will not be any ground reflection.

DerbyDad03 wrote in
:

On Jul 1, 1:49*pm, Red Green wrote:
"Ed" wrote

m:



"Red Green" wrote in message
Thanks Ed. Mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. So, does the
temp sensor have a radiation shield which means it can be mounted
in the sun? If not, I'm confused abput something.

It is not stated, but there is an enclosure. *I can tell better
tomorrow if there is sun for a change. So far, it seems to be
accurate in the late afternoon sun as compared to a thermometer in
the shade. 23 or 29 days in June have had rain so far and the next
couple of days will also.

I've been messing with mine when I can which hasn't been much.
Haven't mounted it yet. I found it takes a bit of time for the temp
to settle when there's been a sudden change where it would vary a few
degrees. Suppose that's good and maybe by design to avoid erroneous
readings.

As far as the plastic vent shield enclosure for it, I'd say it's not
very effective. I had it stabilized in the shade then moved it into
the sun. It moved up some pretty quick. Didn't leave it there long to
see how much it rose.

I'll have to see about a mount location. I'm leaning towards mounting
it on the upper part of the roof rake end about 12'. The soffiet is
pretty wide so maybe I can mount the temp sensor there so it's in the
shade. Of course that presents that that area can tend to attract
warmer air. As far as extending it upwards, I found the short post
that came with it fits perfectly inside 3/4" copper pipe. At least
that is fairly light, rigid and can be painted. Was originally
thinking some plastic PVC pipe be even short lengths of a few feet
would be too flexible during windy times.

It's kind of neat that all the sensor connections are nothing more
than standard phone lines and jacks. Have to look into it but if the
ones that are with it are wired just like a phone, possible I can put
the wind and rain sensor in their ideal location and the temp sensor
much farther away in it's ideal location.

But wait! There's more!...I'm sure :-)

My only experience with weather stations was when I was stationed in
AK back in the late 70's. While on radio watch, you had to go out
every hour and take a bunch of readings from a number of instruments
in a wooden enclosure. The "wet bulb" was my 'favorite'. There was a
tubular-thermometer with a spinner handle attached. We would dip a
cloth casing in alcohol (?), slip it over the smart end of the
thermometer, spin the thermometer for some specified amount of time
and then immediately record the reading next to the standard "dry
bulb" reading. If I recall correctly, the readings had something to do
with determining the relative humidity.

I also recall that we went through a lot of thermometers 'cuz it's
kind of hard to hold onto the spinner handle when it's 35 below with
30 MPH winds and you're wearing these:

http://www.armynnavy.com/catalog/cat...0Army%20Gortex
%20Mitts.jpg


Never done AK but have experienced severe low temps like that, Lived in
northern VT about 40mi from Canada. Generally -30 was the bottom of the
barrel in isolated years. Northeast Kingdom saw much colder temps even.
Anyway, one night is was way down near -30 with a heck of a wind. Think
they said the wind chill was -49 to -55.

I had heard that when the air temp is -60 water will crystalize into
"snow" when tossed in the air. If you boiled the water it would do it at
a higher temp like -50 or -40. Boiled up a pot and tossed it in the air
off the deck. Son of a gun,,,instant "snow". Reading about it is one
thing. Seeing/doing it is another.

"Ed" wrote in
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"Red Green" wrote in message
I'll have to see about a mount location. I'm leaning towards mounting
it on the upper part of the roof rake end about 12'. The soffiet is
pretty wide so maybe I can mount the temp sensor there so it's in the
shade. Of course that presents that that area can tend to attract
warmer air. As far as extending it upwards, I found the short post
that came with it fits perfectly inside 3/4" copper pipe. At least
that is fairly light, rigid and can be painted. Was originally
thinking some plastic PVC pipe be even short lengths of a few feet
would be too flexible during windy times.

It's kind of neat that all the sensor connections are nothing more
than standard phone lines and jacks. Have to look into it but if the
ones that are with it are wired just like a phone, possible I can put
the wind and rain sensor in their ideal location and the temp sensor
much farther away in it's ideal location.

But wait! There's more!...I'm sure :-)

I have mine on a temporary pole. My wife wants me to put a 4 x 4 in
the corner of the deck to hang a planter. I'm thinking I can mount the
station on the top or the other side. I too, have noticed the
temperature high in the sun, but I'm not sure by exactly how much yet
so I may extend the cord down below the deck where it will be in the
shade. My deck is 8' above grade so there will not be any ground
reflection.



Well when the stabilized temp in the shade was 97 today I moved it in the
sun for like 10-15min. It read 102.

dpb wrote in :

Ed wrote:
My Zephyr weather station arrived today. PWS1000-TDx

The "x" model is much cheaper because of a blemish on the bezel. ...

So where did you find that? Google thinks the x is a mistake...

--

https://www.zephyrinstrument.com/Pro...e=PWS-1000TD-X

Red Green wrote:
dpb wrote in :

Ed wrote:
My Zephyr weather station arrived today. PWS1000-TDx

The "x" model is much cheaper because of a blemish on the bezel. ...
So where did you find that? Google thinks the x is a mistake...

--

https://www.zephyrinstrument.com/Pro...e=PWS-1000TD-X

Thanks for the link.

Will it stand 100+ winds (I am in FL)?

Lou

LouB wrote in :

https://www.zephyrinstrument.com/Pro...ctCode=PWS-100
0TD-X

"Wind Speed 0 to 100 mph (displays OFL if outside range)"

Yea but not 101 :-)

Look at the specs on the link page for info. Anything further you have to
ask the mfgr. Of course, the way you mount it has to hold up. The wind
speed and direction thingys are made of plastic as is the mounting "arm".
Doubt it would take a hit from a garbage can.

It's got a 1-Year Manufacturers Warranty. I guess as long as you can show
you mounted it adequately you can support a claim. Actually I took a few
pics of mine mounted. Plan to post to give an idea of a mounting
possibility. That could also serve as showing decent mounting.

Red Green wrote:
LouB wrote in :

https://www.zephyrinstrument.com/Pro...ctCode=PWS-100
0TD-X

"Wind Speed 0 to 100 mph (displays OFL if outside range)"

Yea but not 101 :-)

Look at the specs on the link page for info. Anything further you have to
ask the mfgr. Of course, the way you mount it has to hold up. The wind
speed and direction thingys are made of plastic as is the mounting "arm".
Doubt it would take a hit from a garbage can.

It's got a 1-Year Manufacturers Warranty. I guess as long as you can show
you mounted it adequately you can support a claim. Actually I took a few
pics of mine mounted. Plan to post to give an idea of a mounting
possibility. That could also serve as showing decent mounting.

Thank You

Lou

Red Green wrote:
LouB wrote in :

https://www.zephyrinstrument.com/Pro...ctCode=PWS-100
0TD-X

"Wind Speed 0 to 100 mph (displays OFL if outside range)"

Yea but not 101 :-)
.....

Thanks for the link--I was looking at it but didn't see for some reason
first time...I'll claim the bifocals were the culprit.

Out here I'll be concerned of the longevity in the near-continual 30-40
mph gusting winds where we think anything under 30 is just a gentle
breeze. Stuff fatigues quickly under the continually varying loads in
general. Our "spinners" are much tighter diameter than the major FL
concerns and while it would be interesting, the likelihood of the
station itself surviving would be minimal and at least well down among
the lesser of one's concerns if directly in the path...

--

dpb wrote:
Red Green wrote:
LouB wrote in :

https://www.zephyrinstrument.com/Pro...ctCode=PWS-100
0TD-X

"Wind Speed 0 to 100 mph (displays OFL if outside range)"

Yea but not 101 :-)
....

Thanks for the link--I was looking at it but didn't see for some reason
first time...I'll claim the bifocals were the culprit.

Out here I'll be concerned of the longevity in the near-continual 30-40
mph gusting winds where we think anything under 30 is just a gentle
breeze. Stuff fatigues quickly under the continually varying loads in
general. Our "spinners" are much tighter diameter than the major FL
concerns and while it would be interesting, the likelihood of the
station itself surviving would be minimal and at least well down among
the lesser of one's concerns if directly in the path...

--
Sounds like the Dakotas?

Lou

LouB wrote:
dpb wrote:
Red Green wrote:
LouB wrote in :

https://www.zephyrinstrument.com/Pro...ctCode=PWS-100
0TD-X

"Wind Speed 0 to 100 mph (displays OFL if outside range)"

Yea but not 101 :-)
....

Thanks for the link--I was looking at it but didn't see for some
reason first time...I'll claim the bifocals were the culprit.

Out here I'll be concerned of the longevity in the near-continual
30-40 mph gusting winds where we think anything under 30 is just a
gentle breeze. Stuff fatigues quickly under the continually varying
loads in general. Our "spinners" are much tighter diameter than the
major FL concerns and while it would be interesting, the likelihood of
the station itself surviving would be minimal and at least well down
among the lesser of one's concerns if directly in the path...

--
Sounds like the Dakotas?

Farther south--SW KS...the winds don't blow as consistently farther
north, actually. It's what I noticed in ND and Saskatchewan when do
coal analyzer support there; the trees _don't_ all lean to the north...

--

"dpb" wrote in message
...
LouB wrote:
dpb wrote:
Red Green wrote:
LouB wrote in :

https://www.zephyrinstrument.com/Pro...ctCode=PWS-100
0TD-X

"Wind Speed 0 to 100 mph (displays OFL if outside range)"

Yea but not 101 :-)
....

Thanks for the link--I was looking at it but didn't see for some reason
first time...I'll claim the bifocals were the culprit.

Out here I'll be concerned of the longevity in the near-continual 30-40
mph gusting winds where we think anything under 30 is just a gentle
breeze. Stuff fatigues quickly under the continually varying loads in
general. Our "spinners" are much tighter diameter than the major FL
concerns and while it would be interesting, the likelihood of the
station itself surviving would be minimal and at least well down among
the lesser of one's concerns if directly in the path...

--
Sounds like the Dakotas?

Farther south--SW KS...the winds don't blow as consistently farther north,
actually. It's what I noticed in ND and Saskatchewan when do coal
analyzer support there; the trees _don't_ all lean to the north...

--

like these trees? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divi-divi all the trees on
the island point the same way.

charlie wrote:
"dpb" wrote in message
....
... what I noticed in ND and Saskatchewan when do coal
analyzer support there; the trees _don't_ all lean to the north...
....
like these trees? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divi-divi all the trees on
the island point the same way.

....

sorta' to not quite _that_ extreme, even here!

Lessee if can find a random pitchur that's kinda' close...

Well, unfortunately, not in a reasonable amount of time given my slow
dialup connection, sorry...maybe I can find one of mine and post it
somewhere...

--

"charlie" wrote in
:


"dpb" wrote in message
...
LouB wrote:
dpb wrote:
Red Green wrote:
LouB wrote in
:

https://www.zephyrinstrument.com/Pro...ProductCode=PW
S-100 0TD-X

"Wind Speed 0 to 100 mph (displays OFL if outside range)"

Yea but not 101 :-)
....

Thanks for the link--I was looking at it but didn't see for some
reason first time...I'll claim the bifocals were the culprit.

Out here I'll be concerned of the longevity in the near-continual
30-40 mph gusting winds where we think anything under 30 is just a
gentle breeze. Stuff fatigues quickly under the continually
varying loads in general. Our "spinners" are much tighter diameter
than the major FL concerns and while it would be interesting, the
likelihood of the station itself surviving would be minimal and at
least well down among the lesser of one's concerns if directly in
the path...

--
Sounds like the Dakotas?

Farther south--SW KS...the winds don't blow as consistently farther
north, actually. It's what I noticed in ND and Saskatchewan when do
coal analyzer support there; the trees _don't_ all lean to the
north...

--

like these trees? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divi-divi all the trees
on the island point the same way.



Spent a week on Aruba a few decades ago. That one's pretty extreme. Guess
I've bent a bit since then too.

The misspelling in the Subject line was annoying me, so I fixed it,
since y'all seem hell bent on keeping the thread going for a while more.

"Red Green" wrote in message

Well when the stabilized temp in the shade was 97 today I moved it in the
sun for like 10-15min. It read 102.

Got my computer back today. Installed the software, but have not done much
with it so far. It does import the information so you can have a history
but I'm not sure of the immediate value of it all. I guess I should read
the instructions.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"Red Green" wrote in message
Well when the stabilized temp in the shade was 97 today I moved it in the
sun for like 10-15min. It read 102.

Got my computer back today. Installed the software, but have not done much
with it so far. It does import the information so you can have a history
but I'm not sure of the immediate value of it all. I guess I should read
the instructions.


When all else fails:-))

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in
:


"Red Green" wrote in message

Well when the stabilized temp in the shade was 97 today I moved it in
the sun for like 10-15min. It read 102.

Got my computer back today. Installed the software, but have not done
much with it so far. It does import the information so you can have
a history but I'm not sure of the immediate value of it all. I guess
I should read the instructions.




CD's are still sitting here unopened. As I said, the only reason I got the
TD vs TB is it was less expensive because of the "flaw". I never did find
the flaw. Looked briefly for it but if I have to look that hard then it
doesn't matter. Maybe when later when I'm finalized with the setup.

I moved my thermometer/base unit today. Location was not good. Too close to
things that would affect it like vents and siding. Although it was in the
shade 99% of the time the the 10 feet of siding below it got baked in the
afternoon. That heat rises up to the soffit area where the unit sensor was.
Got a roll of phone wire and move the unit 35' to one side of the house
that never gets sun because of trees and direction (grass almost impossible
to grow there). Still under a soffit about 8' off the ground and the siding
is always ambient. The opposite side of the siding is an unheated storage
area. Temp seems very solid now.

Had to use phone line couplers because one end of the wind and rain sensors
is hard wired into them and the other is a modular connector. Couplers are
protected under the soffit but I'll have to find a good way to seal them. I
see online that 3/4" dia shrink wrap is made. Have to see if it's available
at the Borg or Radio Shack.

Could not figure out why my relative pressure was consistantly high
compared to the NWS Ft Bragg station that is probably only a mile from
here. Oh, duhhh, you initially ahve to set the relative pressure for your
location. Very small blip about it, item 3 on pg 10 (PWS-1000TD) of the
manual.

Red Green wrote:
....
Had to use phone line couplers because one end of the wind and rain sensors
is hard wired into them and the other is a modular connector. ...

Guessed I missed that...this thing is actually hardwired, not telemetry?
That'd pretty much eliminate it for my application methinks...

--

dpb wrote in
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Red Green wrote:
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Had to use phone line couplers because one end of the wind and rain
sensors is hard wired into them and the other is a modular connector.
...

Guessed I missed that...this thing is actually hardwired, not
telemetry?
That'd pretty much eliminate it for my application methinks...

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Partially wired.

Look at the pic of it.

http://tinypic.com/r/16knxcn/5-X

Marked in red and blue there is one 10' phone wire (w/modular connector)
coming from the crossbar at the top from the wind sensors that plugs into
the front of the temp sensor/transmitter (on right, device on lowest part
of mast). There is a 2nd 10' phone wire that comes from the rain gague to
the temp sensor.

The temp sensor monitors other stuff and does the wireless transmitting. If
everything is on the mast then it's just plug & play.

If you need the temp sensor/transmitter more than 10' away from the gauges
then you have to extend the cables using std phone line couplers and std 4
wire phone cord. The length depends on how far away you need it.

Red Green wrote in
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in
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"Red Green" wrote in message

Well when the stabilized temp in the shade was 97 today I moved it
in the sun for like 10-15min. It read 102.

Got my computer back today. Installed the software, but have not
done much with it so far. It does import the information so you can
have a history but I'm not sure of the immediate value of it all. I
guess I should read the instructions.




CD's are still sitting here unopened. As I said, the only reason I got
the TD vs TB is it was less expensive because of the "flaw". I never
did find the flaw. Looked briefly for it but if I have to look that
hard then it doesn't matter. Maybe when later when I'm finalized with
the setup.

I moved my thermometer/base unit today. Location was not good. Too
close to things that would affect it like vents and siding. Although
it was in the shade 99% of the time the the 10 feet of siding below it
got baked in the afternoon. That heat rises up to the soffit area
where the unit sensor was. Got a roll of phone wire and move the unit
35' to one side of the house that never gets sun because of trees and
direction (grass almost impossible to grow there). Still under a
soffit about 8' off the ground and the siding is always ambient. The
opposite side of the siding is an unheated storage area. Temp seems
very solid now.

Had to use phone line couplers because one end of the wind and rain
sensors is hard wired into them and the other is a modular connector.
Couplers are protected under the soffit but I'll have to find a good
way to seal them. I see online that 3/4" dia shrink wrap is made. Have
to see if it's available at the Borg or Radio Shack.

Could not figure out why my relative pressure was consistantly high
compared to the NWS Ft Bragg station that is probably only a mile from
here. Oh, duhhh, you initially ahve to set the relative pressure for
your location. Very small blip about it, item 3 on pg 10 (PWS-1000TD)
of the manual.


p.s.

If you're not close to an NWS station, find your elevation someplace and
convert to set the unit.

http://www.hwn.org/home/conversion-tools.html

Red Green wrote:
dpb wrote in
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Red Green wrote:
...
Had to use phone line couplers because one end of the wind and rain
sensors is hard wired into them and the other is a modular connector.
...
Guessed I missed that...this thing is actually hardwired, not
telemetry?
That'd pretty much eliminate it for my application methinks...

--


Partially wired.

Look at the pic of it.

http://tinypic.com/r/16knxcn/5-X

Marked in red and blue there is one 10' phone wire (w/modular connector)
coming from the crossbar at the top from the wind sensors that plugs into
the front of the temp sensor/transmitter (on right, device on lowest part
of mast). There is a 2nd 10' phone wire that comes from the rain gague to
the temp sensor.

The temp sensor monitors other stuff and does the wireless transmitting. If
everything is on the mast then it's just plug & play.

If you need the temp sensor/transmitter more than 10' away from the gauges
then you have to extend the cables using std phone line couplers and std 4
wire phone cord. The length depends on how far away you need it.

Oh, OK, thanks for the explanation -- w/ my dialup as slow as it is, I
didn't take the time to reload the page itself.

Hmmm...I'll have to think about whether I think there's a single useful
spot to put the sucker...

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On Jul 2, 4:41*pm, Red Green wrote:
"charlie" wrote :





"dpb" wrote in message
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LouB wrote:
dpb wrote:
Red Green wrote:
LouB wrote in
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https://www.zephyrinstrument.com/Pro...ProductCode=PW
S-100 0TD-X

"Wind Speed 0 to 100 mph (displays OFL if outside range)"

Yea but not 101 :-)
....

Thanks for the link--I was looking at it but didn't see for some
reason first time...I'll claim the bifocals were the culprit.

Out here I'll be concerned of the longevity in the near-continual
30-40 mph gusting winds where we think anything under 30 is just a
gentle breeze. *Stuff fatigues quickly under the continually
varying loads in general. *Our "spinners" are much tighter diameter
than the major FL concerns and while it would be interesting, the
likelihood of the station itself surviving would be minimal and at
least well down among the lesser of one's concerns if directly in
the path...

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Sounds like the Dakotas?

Farther south--SW KS...the winds don't blow as consistently farther
north, actually. *It's what I noticed in ND and Saskatchewan when do
coal analyzer support there; the trees _don't_ all lean to the
north...

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like these trees?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divi-diviall the trees
on the island point the same way.

Spent a week on Aruba a few decades ago. That one's pretty extreme. Guess
I've bent a bit since then too.

Spent a week on Aruba a few decades ago

How many is a few? I spent a week there in 81.

I worked for a bank (part time - one day a week) There was a district
wide competition to sell some kind of product and our branch won. The
whole branch, plus one guest each, went to Aruba for 5 days with the
only cost being the bar tab.

I remember that they put the trip down as "income" and it ended up
being about a third of my salary for that year!

I took a friend from college - it was actually our 3rd date. I guess
it was good idea...we've been married for 26 years.

DerbyDad03 wrote in
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On Jul 2, 4:41*pm, Red Green wrote:
"charlie" wrote

rnal-september.org:





"dpb" wrote in message
...
LouB wrote:
dpb wrote:
Red Green wrote:
LouB wrote in
:

https://www.zephyrinstrument.com/Pro...p?ProductCode=
P
W
S-100 0TD-X

"Wind Speed 0 to 100 mph (displays OFL if outside range)"

Yea but not 101 :-)
....

Thanks for the link--I was looking at it but didn't see for some
reason first time...I'll claim the bifocals were the culprit.

Out here I'll be concerned of the longevity in the
near-continual 30-40 mph gusting winds where we think anything
under 30 is just a gentle breeze. *Stuff fatigues quickly under
the continually varying loads in general. *Our "spinners" are
much tighter diamete
r
than the major FL concerns and while it would be interesting,
the likelihood of the station itself surviving would be minimal
and at least well down among the lesser of one's concerns if
directly in the path...

--
Sounds like the Dakotas?

Farther south--SW KS...the winds don't blow as consistently
farther north, actually. *It's what I noticed in ND and
Saskatchewan when do coal analyzer support there; the trees
_don't_ all lean to the north...

--

like these trees?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divi-diviall the
trees on the island point the same way.

Spent a week on Aruba a few decades ago. That one's pretty extreme.
Guess I've bent a bit since then too.

Spent a week on Aruba a few decades ago

How many is a few? I spent a week there in 81.

I worked for a bank (part time - one day a week) There was a district
wide competition to sell some kind of product and our branch won. The
whole branch, plus one guest each, went to Aruba for 5 days with the
only cost being the bar tab.

I remember that they put the trip down as "income" and it ended up
being about a third of my salary for that year!

I took a friend from college - it was actually our 3rd date. I guess
it was good idea...we've been married for 26 years.

Somewhere in that timeframe. Met two couples there that we spent time
with - Pete & Pat and Ed and Donna.