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How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the
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mm wrote: How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? How many of them do you want to be alive when you get to the top? |
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On Mar 21, 5:16�pm, mm wrote:
How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. � Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? hire a couple younger guys, cheap insurance avoids ER visits etc |
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![]() "mm" wrote in message ... How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? One if Charles Atlas About 6 or seven if a bunch of out of shape old farts. Two college students and a pizza & six pack makes more sense. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in news:V0dxl.21774$c45.14117
@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com: "mm" wrote in message ... How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? One if Charles Atlas About 6 or seven if a bunch of out of shape old farts. Two college students and a pizza & six pack makes more sense. Well I'm 55 and could move it myself...downstairs anyway. |
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![]() "Red Green" wrote in message One if Charles Atlas About 6 or seven if a bunch of out of shape old farts. Two college students and a pizza & six pack makes more sense. Well I'm 55 and could move it myself...downstairs anyway. I'm sure you could. I bought a basic 14 cu ft. fridge for our breakroom at work. It was delivered by a guy about 60 and he did it by himself. Only had to go up four steps. He said he'd not do the larger models though. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in
: "Red Green" wrote in message One if Charles Atlas About 6 or seven if a bunch of out of shape old farts. Two college students and a pizza & six pack makes more sense. Well I'm 55 and could move it myself...downstairs anyway. I'm sure you could. Well, I sorta meant stand at the top, yell "Fore!" and give it a teeter. I bought a basic 14 cu ft. fridge for our breakroom at work. It was delivered by a guy about 60 and he did it by himself. Only had to go up four steps. He said he'd not do the larger models though. |
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On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:01:20 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote: "Red Green" wrote in message One if Charles Atlas About 6 or seven if a bunch of out of shape old farts. Two college students and a pizza & six pack makes more sense. Well I'm 55 and could move it myself...downstairs anyway. I'm sure you could. I bought a basic 14 cu ft. fridge for our breakroom at work. It was delivered by a guy about 60 and he did it by himself. Only had to go up four steps. He said he'd not do the larger models though. He was probably 30 and just looked that way from delivering refrigerators. |
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![]() "mm" wrote in message ... How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? It is a two man job. I won't address the age issues. The 2 fittest should be the two man team. IMO, the stronger back on the bottom. The stronger shoulders on the top. The guy on the top pulls and the guy on the bottom lifts one step at a time. The third guy should shoot the video and be ready to call 911. I apologize now for that last line. |
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Colbyt wrote:
"mm" wrote in message ... How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? It is a two man job. I won't address the age issues. The 2 fittest should be the two man team. IMO, the stronger back on the bottom. The stronger shoulders on the top. The guy on the top pulls and the guy on the bottom lifts one step at a time. The third guy should shoot the video and be ready to call 911. I apologize now for that last line. Hi, Old round fridges are very heavy. New ones are not that heavy. Two man and handtruck is the way. If needed remove door(s). |
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On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:48:34 -0600, Tony Hwang
wrote: Colbyt wrote: "mm" wrote in message ... How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? It is a two man job. I won't address the age issues. The 2 fittest should be the two man team. IMO, the stronger back on the bottom. The stronger shoulders on the top. The guy on the top pulls and the guy on the bottom lifts one step at a time. The third guy should shoot the video and be ready to call 911. I apologize now for that last line. Hi, Old round fridges are very heavy. New ones are not that heavy. Two man and handtruck is the way. If needed remove door(s). I thought they might be lighter now, but otoh, I thought they might be a lot bigger. My friend says this one is not especially big, so it's probably lighter. Can't take video. None of us have a video recorder. Will spend money for video recorder on hiring two men. Or maybe 3. |
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Tony Hwang wrote in
: Colbyt wrote: "mm" wrote in message ... How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? It is a two man job. I won't address the age issues. The 2 fittest should be the two man team. IMO, the stronger back on the bottom. The stronger shoulders on the top. The guy on the top pulls and the guy on the bottom lifts one step at a time. The third guy should shoot the video and be ready to call 911. I apologize now for that last line. Hi, Old round fridges are very heavy. New ones are not that heavy. Two man and handtruck is the way. If needed remove door(s). Depending on the frig, even the newer side by sides can have some weight. Problem is when where you have to maneuver it only has room for one person at each end. Bit back I had to move a side by side from one room to another myself. Didn't really have a step but an offset. Doorway I had to go through was so tight not only did I have to take the doors off but even the door hinges and it had to go through perpendicular to the wheels. Ice maker solenoid barely cleared without removing it as well. Once you remove the doors, food contents and any glass shelving, it lightens up quite a bit. |
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Send tape to Americas Funniest Home Videos, and use the
prize money to hire fridge movers. No apology. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Colbyt" wrote in message ... The third guy should shoot the video and be ready to call 911. I apologize now for that last line. |
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On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:41:14 -0400, "Colbyt"
wrote: "mm" wrote in message .. . How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? It is a two man job. I won't address the age issues. The 2 fittest should be the two man team. IMO, the stronger back on the bottom. The stronger shoulders on the top. The guy on the top pulls and the guy on the bottom lifts one step at a time. The third guy should shoot the video and be ready to call 911. I apologize now for that last line. No need to apologize. The 72 is in great shape and always has been. Ran a 4:12 mile in his 20's with barely any training. Still carrying fiberglass extension ladderes around and erecting them by himself and climing them, doing work, and putting them back on his pick-up cap when he was 69 (would still be doing it, but the need ended.) Still lifting boxes every day. But he has admitted once before that something recent was a little hard for him. The 83 year old I haven't seen in action for 10 years but then he was in good shape, jumping off a Jersey wall (36? inches tall) as if it were a 3 inch step. He did a lot of hard work in Siberia in the 40's and is still tough because of it. He was supposed to be third guy. I was supposed to be the second, and said ok until I remembered that I had abdominal surgery January 15 and the doctor limited me to 15 pounds for 6 weeks. It's 9 weeks now, but I think the 6 weeks just meant I could lift what people normally lift on a normal day, not a whole refrigerator. I asked the main question because in college our fridge broke and we found an unused one in the basement of the apartment building. I think we needed four of us to get it up one flight of stairs, a typical set of back stairs of a 3 story Chicago apartment, probably six-foot wide steps. But that was without a dolly, just lying on its side, on blankets I'm sure so it wouldn't get scratched, and being pushed up the stairs by two on the botton and one or two pulling on a rope at the top. I don't think there was room for a third guy on the bottom. Even with 4 we barely got it up there. OK, we'll get some young guys. |
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On Mar 21, 5:56*pm, mm wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:41:14 -0400, "Colbyt" wrote: "mm" wrote in message .. . How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. * Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? It is a two man job. *I won't address the age issues. The 2 fittest should be the two man team. *IMO, the stronger back on the bottom. The stronger shoulders on the top. The guy on the top pulls and the guy on the bottom lifts one step at a time. The third guy should *shoot the video and be ready to call 911. I apologize now for that last line. No need to apologize. *The 72 is in great shape and always has been. Ran a 4:12 mile in his 20's with barely any training. Still carrying fiberglass extension ladderes around and erecting them by himself and climing them, doing work, and putting them back on his pick-up cap when he was 69 (would still be doing it, but the need ended.) *Still lifting boxes every day. * But he has admitted once before that something recent was a little hard for him. The 83 year old I haven't seen in action for 10 years but then he was in good shape, jumping off a Jersey wall (36? inches tall) as if it were a 3 inch step. * He did a lot of hard work in Siberia in the 40's and is still tough because of it. * *He was supposed to be third guy. I was supposed to be the second, and said ok until I remembered that I had abdominal surgery January 15 and the doctor limited me to 15 pounds for 6 weeks. *It's 9 weeks now, but I think the 6 weeks just meant I could lift what people normally lift on a normal day, not a whole refrigerator. I asked the main question because in college our fridge broke and we found an unused one in the basement of the apartment building. *I think we needed four of us to get it up one flight of stairs, a typical set of back stairs of a 3 story Chicago apartment, probably six-foot wide steps. *But that was without a dolly, just lying on its side, on blankets I'm sure so it wouldn't get scratched, and being pushed up the stairs by two on the botton and one or two pulling on a rope at the top. *I don't think there was room for a third guy on the bottom. * Even with 4 we barely got it up there. OK, we'll get some young guys.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'm in that age group. I try to use things like levers to my advantage. Last thing I did was get my snowthrower in my SUV to take to the shop for repairs and I used a ramp cobbled up from 2X4's. Worked fine but my back was sore for a week. Go with the young guys ![]() |
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When I was in college in the early 1980s, my room made got a
refrigerator. we somehow managed to get it to the loading dock of the other dorm complex, and another student helped the two of us heft it onto the back of my 1974 Dodge Dart Swinger. We managed to get it into the other building, and into the dorm room some how. That was quite a trip. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "mm" wrote in message ... I asked the main question because in college our fridge broke and we found an unused one in the basement of the apartment building. I think we needed four of us to get it up one flight of stairs, a typical set of back stairs of a 3 story Chicago apartment, probably six-foot wide steps. But that was without a dolly, just lying on its side, on blankets I'm sure so it wouldn't get scratched, and being pushed up the stairs by two on the botton and one or two pulling on a rope at the top. I don't think there was room for a third guy on the bottom. Even with 4 we barely got it up there. OK, we'll get some young guys. |
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On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:03:33 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: When I was in college in the early 1980s, my room made got a refrigerator. we somehow managed to get it to the loading dock of the other dorm complex, and another student helped the two of us heft it onto the back of my 1974 Dodge Dart Swinger. We managed to get it into the other building, and into the dorm room some how. That was quite a trip. That's pretty good. I've moved a spinet piano on the back of my Catalina or Centurion convertible. Twice. I put a double bed mattress on the trunk and lowered top first. But a fridge might be even heavier. |
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On Mar 22, 1:18�pm, mm wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:03:33 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: When I was in college in the early 1980s, my room made got a refrigerator. we somehow managed to get it to the loading dock of the other dorm complex, and another student helped the two of us heft it onto the back of my 1974 Dodge Dart Swinger. We managed to get it into the other building, and into the dorm room some how. That was quite a trip. That's pretty good. �I've moved a spinet piano on the back of my Catalina or Centurion convertible. � Twice. �I put a double bed mattress on the trunk and lowered top first. But a fridge might be even heavier. had friends who had a house fire. had to move freezer out of basement into garage. what a mess, I measured and KNEW house door had to come off. ginny insited freezer would fit without removing door, her hubby insisted too. so I said its a waste of time but lets try..... it didnt fit ![]() Ginny asked what do we do now? freezer HAD to go back down steps, and door come off. 10 minutes later and one hernia freezer was out of basement and in garage. her hubby haD NEVER SEEN DOOR HINGE PINS REMOVED ![]() |
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A frequent contributor to this newsgroup wrote:
When I was in college in the early 1980s, my room made got a refrigerator. Glad to see what an impact college had on your writing ability :-) Did you actually hire someone to clean your dorm room and provide you with a refrigerator? |
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On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:22:30 -0700, Bob wrote:
A frequent contributor to this newsgroup wrote: When I was in college in the early 1980s, my room made got a refrigerator. Glad to see what an impact college had on your writing ability :-) Did you actually hire someone to clean your dorm room and provide you with a refrigerator? College didn't seem to help you much either. Maid |
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One on top, to handle the hand truck. One on the bottom to
lift. One replacement, to take turns with the lift man. Three sounds about right. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "mm" wrote in message ... How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? |
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How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? If the men have teenage grandsons, that would be the best bet... Seriously, get two young guys. I wouldn't be concerned about two 62-year-olds moving a fridge, but 62 and 72 might be a little risky. Depends on the individuals, of course, but as a general rule you'd be better off with a couple of younger guys. It's a two-man job, regardless: too heavy for one man, and three will get in each other's way. |
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mm wrote:
How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? When my mother moved in with my grandmother to take care of her, I moved her chest freezer into the basement there. At the time, I told her it was getting sold with the house. Ten years later, that is exactly what I did. When the washer caught on fire here, and I had to buy a new one, I was able to move the new plastic-tubbed one in myself with no problem. To get the old one out, even after removing the motor and concrete counterweight, I had to go hat-in-hand around my office begging a favor, and finally found one lady whose hubby wanted a metal washer drum for a burn barrel at their camp. He came over, and with some rope and my regular handtruck, we managed to get it out. A frig dolley with the strap and the tracks on the back would have helped, but would still have taken 2 for safety. Is the frig going elsewhere, or going away? If being replaced by a new one, slip the truck guys a $20 each, and have them do it. If going to charity, they will pick up. The 62 YO is a maybe, if he is in good shape. The other 2, no way. Guys always think of themselves as 20-somethings, able to leap tall buildings with a single bound. Sure, they tossed appliances around like beachballs back in the day, but that day was decades ago. Hire some young bucks, or guilt some young relatives into helping. -- aem sends... |
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On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:16:34 -0400, mm
wrote: How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? One fit person who knows what he is doing can do it alone. I used to hire a funny little guy named Fahey to do things like that. I had a huge side-by-side refrigerator with the ice and water in the door that he moved for me a few times. Fahey was about 5 foot 3 inches and wiry. Maybe 150 pounds. He moved the fridge up stairs, down stairs and anywhere that was needed by himself. My recommendation is to hire someone before you end up with a sad story. It's REALLY not worth saving a few bucks. |
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On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:08:06 -0500, Fat Moe
wrote: Two pairs for two dollars at Dollar General or maybe it was Family Dollar. They are all related. General Dollar fought under Chiang Kai Chek. His name is usually prented in reverse order as is the Chinese way. Family Dollar was the rest of his family. |
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At the close of his life, wasn't he burried under Dollar
Tree? -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "mm" wrote in message ... Two pairs for two dollars at Dollar General or maybe it was Family Dollar. They are all related. General Dollar fought under Chiang Kai Chek. His name is usually prented in reverse order as is the Chinese way. Family Dollar was the rest of his family. |
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On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:08:06 -0500, Fat Moe
wrote: Whoever moves it, get them some grip gloves if they don't have them. Sharp edges and slick sides on something going up a stairs is asking for trouble. Even those gloves with the plastic dots will help moving it much easier. And thanks for the suggestion. I have leather gloves, but I also bought a couple pairs of the dot gloves. Didn't know why, but I usually use the things I buy. So this must be why. |
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On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:08:06 -0500, Fat Moe wrote: Whoever moves it, get them some grip gloves if they don't have them. Sharp edges and slick sides on something going up a stairs is asking for trouble. Even those gloves with the plastic dots will help moving it much easier. And thanks for the suggestion. I have leather gloves, but I also bought a couple pairs of the dot gloves. Didn't know why, but I usually use the things I buy. So this must be why. I've sworn by the dot gloves since I discovered them at around age 13 or so, close to 40 years ago. Beats the snot out of the no-dot brown gloves, which are way too slippery. I even use them as driving gloves in winter, since drive to work is too short to heat up the car enough to go bare-handed. You can actually use the dashboard controls with those, not possible with insulated gloves. For some reason, the stores around here don't always have them, or have them in the size I wear, so when I trip across them, I buy 2-3 pairs. They don't last real long under abrasive conditions, but at a buck a pair, I don't really care. Unless I get something real nasty on them, I just run them through the washer when they get funky- can't do that with most work gloves. I try to keep a clean pair in the pocket of every cool-weather coat I have. I use leather for sharp stuff, and blue nitrile for painting and caulking, but the brown dots for most everything else. -- aem sends... |
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On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 01:05:10 GMT, aemeijers wrote:
mm wrote: On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:08:06 -0500, Fat Moe wrote: Whoever moves it, get them some grip gloves if they don't have them. Sharp edges and slick sides on something going up a stairs is asking for trouble. Even those gloves with the plastic dots will help moving it much easier. And thanks for the suggestion. I have leather gloves, but I also bought a couple pairs of the dot gloves. Didn't know why, but I usually use the things I buy. So this must be why. I've sworn by the dot gloves since I discovered them at around age 13 or so, close to 40 years ago. Hmmm. I never even saw them until 2 or 3 years ago!! Beats the snot out of the no-dot brown gloves, which are way too slippery. I even use them as driving gloves in winter, since drive to work is too short to heat up the car enough to go bare-handed. You can actually use the dashboard controls with those, not possible with insulated gloves. For some reason, the stores around here don't always have them, or have them in the size I wear, so when I trip across them, I buy 2-3 pairs. They don't last real long under abrasive conditions, but at a buck a pair, I don't really care. Unless I get something real nasty on them, I just run them through the washer when they get funky- can't do that with most work gloves. I try to keep a clean pair in the pocket of every cool-weather coat I have. I use leather for sharp stuff, and blue nitrile for painting and caulking, but the brown dots for most everything else. |
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![]() "mm" wrote in message ... How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? This should not be a problem. Strapping the fridge to the dolly allows you to tip the fridge to the center of balance so one guy can roll it on a flat surface without a problem. As for the stairs, this is only a series of small lifts where the guy on the top pulls up and the guy(s) on the bottom lift, so with 2 guys it should be doable, with three no problem. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. |
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On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:16:34 -0400, mm
wrote: How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? I'll tell you better in 2 yrs, but I can't imagine asking for help if I had to do that & I'm 58, 10 yrs beyond a 'cardiac event'- and have chronic fatigue syndrome. It is *all* I would do that week, but with a decent hand-truck it isn't a major job. Jim |
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mm wrote:
How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? I recall the story I was told by a friend when I was in Hawaii. They had a refrigerator to move up stairs and they were all fussing about how to do it when his little Japanese grandfather got fed up with with their talk. He grabbed a length of rope, threw it around the refrigerator, hauled it up on his back and took it up by himself. So all you need to do is find a Japanese grandfather and your troubles are over. Bill |
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On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:27:41 -0500, BillGill
wrote: mm wrote: How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? I recall the story I was told by a friend when I was in Hawaii. They had a refrigerator to move up stairs and they were all fussing about how to do it when his little Japanese grandfather got fed up with with their talk. He grabbed a length of rope, threw it around the refrigerator, hauled it up on his back and took it up by himself. So all you need to do is find a Japanese grandfather and your troubles are over. This was a great answer. I googled japanese grandfather refrigerator and got about 89,900 hits. The first one was this very thread but that still left plenty. I narrowed it down, found a likely one, and emailed him. He's willing to come next week, but I have to pay the plane fare, $600, and provide the rope. I'm not sure if it's worth it. Bill |
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How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? In 'Gran Torino,' Eastwood's character - about 75 - and the kid from next door moved a freezer from the basement to the driveway. One person could do your job if he disassembled the refrigerator first. |
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On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:16:34 -0400, mm
wrote: How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? This sounds like some kind of tricky math question... ":-/ |
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On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:16:34 -0400, mm wrote:
How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? depends on the weight of the fridge and your definition of "good shape" and wether or not they've ever moved anything heavy. |
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mm wrote:
How many men needed to bring a fridge up the stairs, from the basement. Using a rental handtruck designed for this, with a strap etc. How many men needed if the first ones are in good shape and 83, 72, and 62 years old? Let the 83 year old be the straw boss. I'm 66 and I moved one up flight of stairs last year with the help of my 17 year old son. Just put a blanket underneath it to protect the stairs and pull it up. It's not that heavy. One mistake I made was to do it while my childbride was home. Dick |
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