I have planned a series of recessed lights in the kitchen, along the
cabinets about 36" from the wall (counter top would be 24" out) so it will
be 12" beyond the counter top.

One of them I centered on the stove to give some lights to the stove while
cooking, although the range hood has lights too.

I started to read and some literature says that lighting that is near a
range hood especially a stainless steel one is very bad because it cast the
light on the shiny surface, then create a glare effect to the person cooking
and it's a major no no.

Do some of you have lights over the stove and this is indeed a problem? Is
it better to move it to either side?

On the other side where the sink is (and where food prep happens) I am
putting in lights right at 24". I have no top cabinets there.

On the stove side I do have top cabinets sp right now I am planning 36" out.

Thanks,

MC

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
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I have planned a series of recessed lights in the kitchen, along the
cabinets about 36" from the wall (counter top would be 24" out) so it will
be 12" beyond the counter top.

One of them I centered on the stove to give some lights to the stove while
cooking, although the range hood has lights too.

I started to read and some literature says that lighting that is near a
range hood especially a stainless steel one is very bad because it cast
the light on the shiny surface, then create a glare effect to the person
cooking and it's a major no no.

Do some of you have lights over the stove and this is indeed a problem?
Is it better to move it to either side?

On the other side where the sink is (and where food prep happens) I am
putting in lights right at 24". I have no top cabinets there.

On the stove side I do have top cabinets sp right now I am planning 36"
out.

Thanks,

MC
I try to space them so they're on both sides of the hood, not directly over
it, and at 25" out, so YOU, are not casting a shadow on the counter in
front of you

"RBM" wrote in message
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"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
I have planned a series of recessed lights in the kitchen, along the
cabinets about 36" from the wall (counter top would be 24" out) so it will
be 12" beyond the counter top.

One of them I centered on the stove to give some lights to the stove
while cooking, although the range hood has lights too.

I started to read and some literature says that lighting that is near a
range hood especially a stainless steel one is very bad because it cast
the light on the shiny surface, then create a glare effect to the person
cooking and it's a major no no.

Do some of you have lights over the stove and this is indeed a problem?
Is it better to move it to either side?

On the other side where the sink is (and where food prep happens) I am
putting in lights right at 24". I have no top cabinets there.

On the stove side I do have top cabinets sp right now I am planning 36"
out.

Thanks,

MC
I try to space them so they're on both sides of the hood, not directly
over it, and at 25" out, so YOU, are not casting a shadow on the counter
in front of you


*I agree with RBM. If you are standing at the counter and the light is
coming from behind you your head and body will cast a shadow and block the
light. I use the countertop edge as my starting point for the center of the
lights. Sometimes I have to move out a little due to obstacles, but I have
found that position is beneficial for throwing light into the overhead
cabinets, onto the countertop and also onto the drawers and dishwasher.

RBM wrote:

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
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I have planned a series of recessed lights in the kitchen, along the
cabinets about 36" from the wall (counter top would be 24" out) so it will
be 12" beyond the counter top.

One of them I centered on the stove to give some lights to the stove while
cooking, although the range hood has lights too.

I started to read and some literature says that lighting that is near a
range hood especially a stainless steel one is very bad because it cast
the light on the shiny surface, then create a glare effect to the person
cooking and it's a major no no.

Do some of you have lights over the stove and this is indeed a problem?
Is it better to move it to either side?

On the other side where the sink is (and where food prep happens) I am
putting in lights right at 24". I have no top cabinets there.

On the stove side I do have top cabinets sp right now I am planning 36"
out.

Thanks,

MC
I try to space them so they're on both sides of the hood, not directly over
it, and at 25" out, so YOU, are not casting a shadow on the counter in
front of you

Angle of incidence = angle of reflection. If the light is directly over,
you will only get glare if you are also directly over at which point
you're blocking the light anyway.

Splitting the light to either side reduced the head blocking the light
issue, however, when cooking 95% of the time you are looking from a foot
or two back.

"RBM" wrote in message
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"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
I have planned a series of recessed lights in the kitchen, along the
cabinets about 36" from the wall (counter top would be 24" out) so it will
be 12" beyond the counter top.

One of them I centered on the stove to give some lights to the stove
while cooking, although the range hood has lights too.

I started to read and some literature says that lighting that is near a
range hood especially a stainless steel one is very bad because it cast
the light on the shiny surface, then create a glare effect to the person
cooking and it's a major no no.

Do some of you have lights over the stove and this is indeed a problem?
Is it better to move it to either side?

On the other side where the sink is (and where food prep happens) I am
putting in lights right at 24". I have no top cabinets there.

On the stove side I do have top cabinets sp right now I am planning 36"
out.

Thanks,

MC
I try to space them so they're on both sides of the hood, not directly
over it, and at 25" out, so YOU, are not casting a shadow on the counter
in front of you



Makes sense. I will pull it back to 24"-24" or so.

Thanks,

MC

By the way down here the Expo Design Center (Home Depot's high end stores)
are closing and everything is 50% off.

I was there today and came across a return item, two boxes of trims for the
6" housings. Those are Halo 30WAT, and each box has 18 of them each one was
marked down to $10.00 and 50% off that. So I got all 28 of those trims.
However I did not notice that some of them are different, turns out I ended
up with 11 of 30WAT and 17 of the 30WATH. They look the same except the
30WAT (62400 60332) the upper inside part of the cone is white, anf the
30WATH (62400 68832) the upper inside part of the cone is silver.

I took your advice and used H7T housing for most of my down lighting and it
seems the 30WAT(H) will work, according to Halo's website I can use 100W A19
if I wanted to but I probably will use 75W instead.

I wonder if I can tell the difference between 30WAT and 30WATH down from
below after the bulbs are inserted.

MC

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
By the way down here the Expo Design Center (Home Depot's high end stores)
are closing and everything is 50% off.

I was there today and came across a return item, two boxes of trims for
the 6" housings. Those are Halo 30WAT, and each box has 18 of them each
one was marked down to $10.00 and 50% off that. So I got all 28 of those
trims. However I did not notice that some of them are different, turns out
I ended up with 11 of 30WAT and 17 of the 30WATH. They look the same
except the 30WAT (62400 60332) the upper inside part of the cone is white,
anf the 30WATH (62400 68832) the upper inside part of the cone is silver.

I took your advice and used H7T housing for most of my down lighting and
it seems the 30WAT(H) will work, according to Halo's website I can use
100W A19 if I wanted to but I probably will use 75W instead.

I wonder if I can tell the difference between 30WAT and 30WATH down from
below after the bulbs are inserted.

MC

That is an airtite trim. You remove the guts of the frame, leaving the
ceramic socket which clips into the end of the trim, with a gasket, keeping
it air tight. Be careful when installing them, the spring wires that hold
the trim into the frame, can be a bit tricky, and the rim of the trim bends
very easily

"RBM" wrote in message
...

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
By the way down here the Expo Design Center (Home Depot's high end
stores) are closing and everything is 50% off.

I was there today and came across a return item, two boxes of trims for
the 6" housings. Those are Halo 30WAT, and each box has 18 of them each
one was marked down to $10.00 and 50% off that. So I got all 28 of those
trims. However I did not notice that some of them are different, turns
out I ended up with 11 of 30WAT and 17 of the 30WATH. They look the same
except the 30WAT (62400 60332) the upper inside part of the cone is
white, anf the 30WATH (62400 68832) the upper inside part of the cone is
silver.

I took your advice and used H7T housing for most of my down lighting and
it seems the 30WAT(H) will work, according to Halo's website I can use
100W A19 if I wanted to but I probably will use 75W instead.

I wonder if I can tell the difference between 30WAT and 30WATH down from
below after the bulbs are inserted.

MC

That is an airtite trim. You remove the guts of the frame, leaving the
ceramic socket which clips into the end of the trim, with a gasket,
keeping it air tight. Be careful when installing them, the spring wires
that hold the trim into the frame, can be a bit tricky, and the rim of the
trim bends very easily




RBM what do you mean by removing the guts of the frame? You mean it does
not install by pushing it into the housing like the other trims?

Thanks,

MC

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...

"RBM" wrote in message
...

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
...
By the way down here the Expo Design Center (Home Depot's high end
stores) are closing and everything is 50% off.

I was there today and came across a return item, two boxes of trims for
the 6" housings. Those are Halo 30WAT, and each box has 18 of them each
one was marked down to $10.00 and 50% off that. So I got all 28 of
those trims. However I did not notice that some of them are different,
turns out I ended up with 11 of 30WAT and 17 of the 30WATH. They look
the same except the 30WAT (62400 60332) the upper inside part of the
cone is white, anf the 30WATH (62400 68832) the upper inside part of the
cone is silver.

I took your advice and used H7T housing for most of my down lighting and
it seems the 30WAT(H) will work, according to Halo's website I can use
100W A19 if I wanted to but I probably will use 75W instead.

I wonder if I can tell the difference between 30WAT and 30WATH down from
below after the bulbs are inserted.

MC

That is an airtite trim. You remove the guts of the frame, leaving the
ceramic socket which clips into the end of the trim, with a gasket,
keeping it air tight. Be careful when installing them, the spring wires
that hold the trim into the frame, can be a bit tricky, and the rim of
the trim bends very easily




RBM what do you mean by removing the guts of the frame? You mean it does
not install by pushing it into the housing like the other trims?

Thanks,

MC

Correct, that trim has a hole at the narrow end, and the socket mounts
directly to it. Currently, the socket is mounted on a flat plate inside the
can. You remove the wing nut on the side of the can that holds that plate,
pull it down, out of the can, and pinch the two spring steel retainers on
the socket to remove it from the plate. Discard the plate and mount the
socket to the trim.

On Mar 21, 12:31*pm, "MiamiCuse" wrote:
I have planned a series of recessed lights in the kitchen, along the
cabinets about 36" from the wall (counter top would be 24" out) so it will
be 12" beyond the counter top.

One of them I centered on the stove to give some lights to the stove while
cooking, although the range hood has lights too.

I started to read and some literature says that lighting that is near a
range hood especially a stainless steel one is very bad because it cast the
light on the shiny surface, then create a glare effect to the person cooking
and it's a major no no.

Do some of you have lights over the stove and this is indeed a problem? *Is
it better to move it to either side?

On the other side where the sink is (and where food prep happens) *I am
putting in lights right at 24". *I have no top cabinets there.

On the stove side I do have top cabinets sp right now I am planning 36" out.

Thanks,

MC

Why waste your time and money on lighting you don't need? A range hood
will more than adequately illuminate the stove, according to the chef
at our house. Of course, if you're competing with the neighbors for
the absolute maximum can lights in a dwelling, then go for it, but
don't bother to wire them to the power source.
Consider that one day soon LED panels will be all the rage and can
lights will join the ugly overpriced granite counter tops in the
landfills. Such is the price of being hip...

Joe