A letter from the Boss:

To All My Valued Employees,

There have been some rumblings around the office
about the future of this company, and more specifically,
your job. As you know, the economy has changed for
the worse and presents many challenges. However, the
good news is this: The economy doesn't pose a threat
to your job. What does threaten your job however, is
the changing political landscape in this country.

However, let me tell you some little tidbits of fact which
might help you decide what is in your best interests.

First, while it is easy to spew rhetoric that casts
employers against employees, you have to understand
that for every business owner there is an untold Story.
This back story is often neglected and overshadowed
by what you see and hear. Sure, you see me park my
Mercedes outside. You've seen my big home at last
years Christmas party. I'm sure; all these flashy icons
of luxury conjure up some idealized thoughts about
my life.


However, what you don't see is the BACK STORY :

I started this company 28 years ago. At that time, I
lived in a 300 square foot studio apartment for 3 years.
My entire living apartment was converted into an office
so I could put forth 100% effort into building a company,
which by the way, would eventually employ you.

My diet consisted of Ramen Pride noodles because
every dollar I spent went back into this company. I drove
a rusty Toyota Corolla with a defective transmission. I
didn't have time to date. Often times, I stayed home on
weekends, while my friends went out drinking and
partying. In fact, I was married to my business -- hard
work, discipline, and sacrifice.

Meanwhile, my friends got jobs. They worked 40 hours a
week and made a modest $50K a year and spent every
dime they earned. They drove flashy cars and lived in
expensive homes and wore fancy designer clothes.
Instead of hitting the Nordstrom's for the latest hot
fashion item, I was trolling through the discount store
extracting any clothing item that didn't look like it was
birthed in the 70's. My friends refinanced their mortgages
and lived a life of luxury. I, however, did not. I put my
time, my money, and my life into a business with a vision
that eventually, someday, I too, will be able to afford
these
luxuries my friends supposedly had.

So, while you physically arrive at the office at 9am,
mentally check in at about noon, and then leave at 5pm,
I don't. There is no "off" button for me. When you leave
the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to
yourself. I unfortunately do not have the freedom. I eat,
and breathe this company every minute of the day. There
is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour.
Every day this business is attached to my hip like a 1 year
old special-needs child. You, of course, only see the
fruits of that garden -- the nice house, the Mercedes, the
vacations... you never realize the Back Story and the
sacrifices I've made.

Affirmative Action came into being, in order to right the
wrongs of some previous generation. Forced me to
go out and look for people based on their skin color.
And, so I did. What did I find? I found a bunch of
people who had no qualifications to work at my
company. I hired them because the government made
me to do it. What I got? Bunch of lazy whiners and
complainers who stole everything including switch
plates and light bulbs.

Now, the economy is falling apart and I, the guy that
made all the right decisions and saved his money, have
to bailout all the people who didn't. The people that
overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the
same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed a decade of
my life for.

Yes, business ownership has is benefits but the price
I've paid is steep and not without wounds.

Unfortunately, the cost of running this business, and
employing you, is starting to eclipse the threshold of
marginal benefit and let me tell you why:

I am being taxed to death and the government thinks
I don't pay enough. I have state taxes. Federal taxes.
Property taxes. Sales and use taxes. Payroll taxes.
Workers compensation taxes. Unemployment taxes.
Taxes on taxes. I have to hire a tax man to manage all
these taxes and then guess what? I have to pay taxes
for employing him. Government mandates and
regulations and all the accounting that goes with it,
now occupy most of my time. On Oct 15th, I wrote a
check to the US Treasury for $288,000 for quarterly
taxes. You know what my "stimulus" check was?
Zero. Nada. Zilch.

The question I have is this: Who is stimulating the
economy? Me, the guy who has provided 14 people
good paying jobs and serves over 2,200,000 people
per year with a flourishing business? Or, the single
mother sitting at home pregnant with her fourth child
waiting for her next welfare check? Obviously,
government feels the latter is the economic stimulus
of this country.

The fact is, if I deducted (Read: Stole) 50% of your
paycheck you'd quit and you wouldn't work here. I
mean, why should you? That's nuts. Who wants to get
rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, I agree
which is why your job is in jeopardy.

Here is what many of you don't understand ... to
stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what
runs the economy. Had suddenly government
mandated to me that I didn't need to pay taxes,
guess what? Instead of depositing that $288,000 into
the Washington black-hole, I would have spent it,
hired more employees, and generated substantial
economic growth. My employees would have
enjoyed the wealth of that tax cut in the form of
promotions and better salaries. But you can forget it
now.

When you have a comatose man on the verge of
death, you don't defibrillate and shock his thumb
thinking that will bring him back to life, do you?
Or, do you defibrillate his heart? Business is at the
heart of America and always has been. To restart
it, you must stimulate it, not kill it. Suddenly, the
power brokers in Washington believe the poor of
America are the essential drivers of the American
economic engine. Nothing could be further from
the truth and this is the type of change you can keep.

So where am I going with all this?

It's quite simple.

If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company,
my reaction will be swift and simple. I'll fire you
and your coworkers. You can then plead with the
government to pay for your mortgage, your SUV,
and your child's future. Frankly, it isn't my problem
any more.

Then, I will close this company down, move to
another country, and retire. You see, I'm done. I'm
done with a country that penalizes the productive
and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to
work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and
with it, will be my citizenship.

So, if you lose your job, it won't be at the hands
of the economy; it will be at the hands of a political
hurricane that swept through this country, steamrolled
the constitution, and will have changed its landscape
forever. If that happens, you can find me sitting on a
beach, retired, and with no employees to worry about....

Signed, THE BOSS

"The problem with socialism is that you eventually
run out of other people's money."
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.

On Feb 25, 9:41*am, Jeff Wisnia wrote:
A letter from the Boss:

To All My Valued Employees,

There have been some rumblings around the office
about the future of this company, and more specifically,
your job. As you know, the economy has changed for
the worse and presents many challenges. However, the
good news is this: The economy doesn't pose a threat
to your job. What does threaten your job however, is
the changing political landscape in this country.

However, let me tell you some little tidbits of fact which
might help you decide what is in your best interests.

First, while it is easy to spew rhetoric that casts
employers against employees, you have to understand
that for every business owner there is an untold Story.
This back story is often neglected and overshadowed
by what you see and hear. Sure, you see me park my
Mercedes outside. You've seen my big home at last
years Christmas party. I'm sure; all these flashy icons
of luxury conjure up some idealized thoughts about
my life.

However, what you don't see is the BACK STORY :

I started this company 28 years ago. At that time, I
lived in a 300 square foot studio apartment for 3 years.
My entire living apartment was converted into an office
so I could put forth 100% effort into building a company,
which by the way, would eventually employ you.

My diet consisted of Ramen Pride noodles because
every dollar I spent went back into this company. I drove
a rusty Toyota Corolla with a defective transmission. I
didn't have time to date. Often times, I stayed home on
weekends, while my friends went out drinking and
partying. In fact, I was married to my business -- hard
work, discipline, and sacrifice.

Meanwhile, my friends got jobs. They worked 40 hours a
week and made a modest $50K a year and spent every
dime they earned. They drove flashy cars and lived in
expensive homes and wore fancy designer clothes.
Instead of hitting the Nordstrom's for the latest hot
fashion item, I was trolling through the discount store
extracting any clothing item that didn't look like it was
birthed in the 70's. My friends refinanced their mortgages
and lived a life of luxury. I, however, did not. I put my
time, my money, and my life into a business with a vision
that eventually, someday, I too, will be able to afford
these
luxuries my friends supposedly had.

So, while you physically arrive at the office at 9am,
mentally check in at about noon, and then leave at 5pm,
I don't. There is no "off" button for me. When you leave
the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to
yourself. I unfortunately do not have the freedom. I eat,
and breathe this company every minute of the day. There
is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour.
Every day this business is attached to my hip like a 1 year
old special-needs child. You, of course, only see the
fruits of that garden -- the nice house, the Mercedes, the
vacations... you never realize the Back Story and the
sacrifices I've made.

Affirmative Action came into being, in order to right the
wrongs of some previous generation. Forced me to
go out and look for people based on their skin color.
And, so I did. What did I find? I found a bunch of
people who had no qualifications to work at my
company. I hired them because the government made
me to do it. What I got? Bunch of lazy whiners and
complainers who stole everything including switch
plates and light bulbs.

Now, the economy is falling apart and I, the guy that
made all the right decisions and saved his money, have
to bailout all the people who didn't. The people that
overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the
same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed a decade of
my life for.

Yes, business ownership has is benefits but the price
I've paid is steep and not without wounds.

Unfortunately, the cost of running this business, and
employing you, is starting to eclipse the threshold of
marginal benefit and let me tell you why:

I am being taxed to death and the government thinks
I don't pay enough. I have state taxes. Federal taxes.
Property taxes. Sales and use taxes. Payroll taxes.
Workers compensation taxes. Unemployment taxes.
Taxes on taxes. I have to hire a tax man to manage all
these taxes and then guess what? I have to pay taxes
for employing him. Government mandates and
regulations and all the accounting that goes with it,
now occupy most of my time. On Oct 15th, I wrote a
check to the US Treasury for $288,000 for quarterly
taxes. You know what my "stimulus" check was?
Zero. Nada. Zilch.

The question I have is this: Who is stimulating the
economy? Me, the guy who has provided 14 people
good paying jobs and serves over 2,200,000 people
per year with a flourishing business? Or, the single
mother sitting at home pregnant with her fourth child
waiting for her next welfare check? Obviously,
government feels the latter is the economic stimulus
of this country.

The fact is, if I deducted (Read: Stole) 50% of your
paycheck you'd quit and you wouldn't work here. I
mean, why should you? That's nuts. Who wants to get
rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, I agree
which is why your job is in jeopardy.

Here is what many of you don't understand ... to
stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what
runs the economy. Had suddenly government
mandated to me that I didn't need to pay taxes,
guess what? Instead of depositing that $288,000 into
the Washington black-hole, I would have spent it,
hired more employees, and generated substantial
economic growth. My employees would have
enjoyed the wealth of that tax cut in the form of
promotions and better salaries. But you can forget it
now.

When you have a comatose man on the verge of
death, *you don't defibrillate and shock his thumb
thinking that will bring him back to life, do you?
Or, do you defibrillate his heart? Business is at the
heart of America and always has been. To restart
it, you must stimulate it, not kill it. Suddenly, the
power brokers in Washington believe the poor of
America are the essential drivers of the American
economic engine. Nothing could be further from
the truth and this is the type of change you can keep.

So where am I going with all this?

It's quite simple.

If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company,
my reaction will be swift and simple. I'll fire you
and your coworkers. You can then plead with the
government to pay for your mortgage, your SUV,
and your child's future. Frankly, it isn't my problem
any more.

Then, I will close this company down, move to
another country, and retire. You see, I'm done. I'm
done with a country that penalizes the productive
and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to
work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and
with it, will be my citizenship.

So, if you lose your job, it won't be at the hands
of the economy; it will be at the hands of a political
hurricane that swept through this country, steamrolled
the constitution, and will have changed its landscape
forever. If that happens, you can find me sitting on a
beach, retired, and with no employees to worry about....

Signed, THE BOSS

"The problem with socialism is that you eventually
run out of other people's money."
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.

Ramen Noodles, there was your Mistake moron, home cookin is alot
cheaper, you liar, Ramen Noodles is expensive crap and expensive on a
calorie % needed basis, Ramen is junk. quit bitchin re-tard,
"Capitalism", its the risk we take, or go to Burma, Cambodia , Iran,
or any other of the 100 countries that would have denied you as good a
life, Just so you can eat food in your Own Home you dont own.

ransley wrote:


Ramen Noodles, there was your Mistake moron, home cookin is alot
cheaper, you liar, Ramen Noodles is expensive crap and expensive on a
calorie % needed basis, Ramen is junk. quit bitchin re-tard,
"Capitalism", its the risk we take, or go to Burma, Cambodia , Iran,
or any other of the 100 countries that would have denied you as good a
life, Just so you can eat food in your Own Home you dont own.

Sorry Ransley et all. I didn't intend to post that here.

I was forwarding it to a friend who is noticably to the right of John
Wayne and I didn't realize that I hadn't moved my mail client off
"newsgroups" and into "mail".

Jeff
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.

In article
communications,
Jeff Wisnia wrote:

ransley wrote:


Ramen Noodles, there was your Mistake moron, home cookin is alot
cheaper, you liar, Ramen Noodles is expensive crap and expensive on a
calorie % needed basis, Ramen is junk. quit bitchin re-tard,
"Capitalism", its the risk we take, or go to Burma, Cambodia , Iran,
or any other of the 100 countries that would have denied you as good a
life, Just so you can eat food in your Own Home you dont own.

Sorry Ransley et all. I didn't intend to post that here.

I was forwarding it to a friend who is noticably to the right of John
Wayne and I didn't realize that I hadn't moved my mail client off
"newsgroups" and into "mail".

Jeff

Once you're dead, you can no longer be on either side of the political
fence. Anyway, we had the Boss letter a few days ago. I think SM posted
it.

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:41:01 -0500, Jeff Wisnia
wrote:



A letter from the Boss:

To All My Valued Employees,

There have been some rumblings around the office
about the future of this company, and more specifically,
your job. As you know, the economy has changed for
the worse and presents many challenges. However, the

the constitution, and will have changed its landscape
forever. If that happens, you can find me sitting on a
beach, retired, and with no employees to worry about....

Signed, THE BOSS

"The problem with socialism is that you eventually
run out of other people's money."


There could just as easily be a similar style letter "from the
employee" outlining how much the employee has done for the boss only
to be shat upon when times got tough. Also, it's nonsense that
someone who is making a good living is going to shut down his company
because his taxes go up a wee bit. He's not going to do that anymore
then he would shut down his business (if he was still making a good
living) because the price of gas went up. And if he's not making a
good living getting a $5000 tax cut is not going to keep him in
business.

Ashton Crusher wrote:

There could just as easily be a similar style letter "from the
employee" outlining how much the employee has done for the boss only
to be shat upon when times got tough. Also, it's nonsense that
someone who is making a good living is going to shut down his company
because his taxes go up a wee bit. He's not going to do that anymore
then he would shut down his business (if he was still making a good
living) because the price of gas went up.

I had an architect friend who had a sizeable (100 million + per year)
construction company. He shut it down lock, stock and barrel some 30 years
ago because of the government hassle. He was making a *very* good living,
continued to do so via architecture but with fewer hassles.

By "hassle" I mean not only economic ones but things like it taking seven
years dealing with various agencies to get a project from inception to
ground breaking.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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Ashton Crusher wrote:


There could just as easily be a similar style letter "from the
employee" outlining how much the employee has done for the boss only
to be shat upon when times got tough.

Apples and oranges. An employee EXPECTS crap from the boss - that's part of
the employment agreement! The boss doesn't expect the government to be his
adversary... or didn't until recently.


Also, it's nonsense that
someone who is making a good living is going to shut down his company
because his taxes go up a wee bit. He's not going to do that anymore
then he would shut down his business (if he was still making a good
living) because the price of gas went up. And if he's not making a
good living getting a $5000 tax cut is not going to keep him in
business.

I guess you never read Atlas Shrugged.

Of course that was fiction, but why are Democrats today - including the
president - drawing a big target on corporations who move their headquarters
offshore to avoid taxes?

I saw a comparison recently between California and Texas, our first and
second most populace states. The unemployment rate in Texas is one percent
below the national average, California is three percent above. Texas added
500,000 new jobs in the past year, California lost about a million. And so
on.

There are many differences between the two states, but the tax load is
certainly one of the biggest.

HeyBub wrote:
Ashton Crusher wrote:


There could just as easily be a similar style letter "from the
employee" outlining how much the employee has done for the boss only
to be shat upon when times got tough.

Apples and oranges. An employee EXPECTS crap from the boss - that's
part of the employment agreement! The boss doesn't expect the
government to be his adversary... or didn't until recently.


Also, it's nonsense that
someone who is making a good living is going to shut down his company
because his taxes go up a wee bit. He's not going to do that anymore
then he would shut down his business (if he was still making a good
living) because the price of gas went up. And if he's not making a
good living getting a $5000 tax cut is not going to keep him in
business.

I guess you never read Atlas Shrugged.

Of course that was fiction, but why are Democrats today - including
the president - drawing a big target on corporations who move their
headquarters offshore to avoid taxes?

I saw a comparison recently between California and Texas, our first
and second most populace states. The unemployment rate in Texas is
one percent below the national average, California is three percent
above. Texas added 500,000 new jobs in the past year, California lost
about a million. And so on.

There are many differences between the two states, but the tax load is
certainly one of the biggest.

CORRECTION:
Replace "populace" above with "populous." Sorry if any were offended by this
egregious blunder.

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:49:06 -0500, "dadiOH"
wrote:

Ashton Crusher wrote:

There could just as easily be a similar style letter "from the
employee" outlining how much the employee has done for the boss only
to be shat upon when times got tough. Also, it's nonsense that
someone who is making a good living is going to shut down his company
because his taxes go up a wee bit. He's not going to do that anymore
then he would shut down his business (if he was still making a good
living) because the price of gas went up.

I had an architect friend who had a sizeable (100 million + per year)
construction company. He shut it down lock, stock and barrel some 30 years
ago because of the government hassle. He was making a *very* good living,
continued to do so via architecture but with fewer hassles.

By "hassle" I mean not only economic ones but things like it taking seven
years dealing with various agencies to get a project from inception to
ground breaking.

And I am sure someone else is not doing that same business. He
was just not cut out for it.

HeyBub wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
Ashton Crusher wrote:


There could just as easily be a similar style letter "from the
employee" outlining how much the employee has done for the boss only
to be shat upon when times got tough.

Apples and oranges. An employee EXPECTS crap from the boss - that's
part of the employment agreement! The boss doesn't expect the
government to be his adversary... or didn't until recently.


Also, it's nonsense that
someone who is making a good living is going to shut down his
company because his taxes go up a wee bit. He's not going to do
that anymore then he would shut down his business (if he was still
making a good living) because the price of gas went up. And if
he's not making a good living getting a $5000 tax cut is not going
to keep him in business.

I guess you never read Atlas Shrugged.

"Washington, D.C., February 23, 2009--Sales of Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged"
have almost tripled over the first seven weeks of this year compared with
sales for the same period in 2008. This continues a strong trend after
bookstore sales reached an all-time annual high in 2008 of about 200,000
copies sold."

http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?pa...ticle&id=22647

HeyBub wrote:
Ashton Crusher wrote:


There could just as easily be a similar style letter "from the
employee" outlining how much the employee has done for the boss only
to be shat upon when times got tough.

Apples and oranges. An employee EXPECTS crap from the boss - that's
part of the employment agreement! The boss doesn't expect the
government to be his adversary... or didn't until recently.

Especially since business has so aptly demonstrated its responsible behavior.
When was the last time you heard of any significant business malfeasence?

HeyBub wrote:
CORRECTION:
Replace "populace" above with "populous." Sorry if any were offended
by this egregious blunder.


You are forgiven since you used "egregious" properly

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
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Bob F wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
Ashton Crusher wrote:


There could just as easily be a similar style letter "from the
employee" outlining how much the employee has done for the boss only
to be shat upon when times got tough.

Apples and oranges. An employee EXPECTS crap from the boss - that's
part of the employment agreement! The boss doesn't expect the
government to be his adversary... or didn't until recently.

Especially since business has so aptly demonstrated its responsible
behavior. When was the last time you heard of any significant
business malfeasence?

Well, admittedly, business malfeasance IS rare...

But, some employees become self-aware - like Skynet. I, myself, came to the
realization in 1974 that as long as I was doomed to work for a fool, it
might as well be me.

Been self-employed ever since.

wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:49:06 -0500, "dadiOH"
wrote:

I had an architect friend who had a sizeable (100 million + per year)
construction company. He shut it down lock, stock and barrel some
30 years ago because of the government hassle. He was making a
*very* good living, continued to do so via architecture but with
fewer hassles.

By "hassle" I mean not only economic ones but things like it taking
seven years dealing with various agencies to get a project from
inception to ground breaking.

And I am sure someone else is not doing that same business. He
was just not cut out for it.

He did it for a long time, just got fed up with the ever increasing hassle.
And yes, i am sure someone else is doing what he would have. One person -
or 100 or 1000 or many 1000s - saying, "ENOUGH ALREADY!" won't stop it.
Those who take up the fallen banner will just do the same thing they always
have...add the monumental increased cost onto what we all pay.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

Bob F wrote:

Especially since business has so aptly demonstrated its responsible behavior.
When was the last time you heard of any significant business malfeasence?


Rule of thumb, works almost every time.
As bad as "business" is, "government" will always be worse.

When is the last time the government did anything right?

Second rule of thumb;
When business does bad stuff or can't get their act together they go out
of business and disappear. (*)
When government does bad stuff or can't get their act together, they get
a budget increase, costing us more money.
[*] -- except for the case of when business melds into government, a
common occurrence these days.

T

Tman wrote:
Bob F wrote:

Especially since business has so aptly demonstrated its responsible
behavior. When was the last time you heard of any significant
business malfeasence?
Rule of thumb, works almost every time.
As bad as "business" is, "government" will always be worse.

When is the last time the government did anything right?

Second rule of thumb;
When business does bad stuff or can't get their act together they go
out of business and disappear. (*)
When government does bad stuff or can't get their act together, they
get a budget increase, costing us more money.

[*] -- except for the case of when business melds into government, a
common occurrence these days.


George Will opined that the government "Should protect the borders and
deliver the mail. When it demonstrates competence in these areas, maybe we
can trust it with others."

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:49:06 -0500, "dadiOH"
wrote:

Ashton Crusher wrote:

There could just as easily be a similar style letter "from the
employee" outlining how much the employee has done for the boss only
to be shat upon when times got tough. Also, it's nonsense that
someone who is making a good living is going to shut down his company
because his taxes go up a wee bit. He's not going to do that anymore
then he would shut down his business (if he was still making a good
living) because the price of gas went up.

I had an architect friend who had a sizeable (100 million + per year)
construction company. He shut it down lock, stock and barrel some 30 years
ago because of the government hassle. He was making a *very* good living,
continued to do so via architecture but with fewer hassles.

By "hassle" I mean not only economic ones but things like it taking seven
years dealing with various agencies to get a project from inception to
ground breaking.

Then you are agreeing with me that people don't shut their business
down because of a relatively small change in the net income if they
were making a good living.

As to your friend, something seems wrong with that story, I wonder if
your friend didn't tell you the whole story. If he was making a
killing why would he just shut it down instead of selling it to
someone. Not saying he didn't but if that's what he did it was kinda
stupid.

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:44:21 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Ashton Crusher wrote:


There could just as easily be a similar style letter "from the
employee" outlining how much the employee has done for the boss only
to be shat upon when times got tough.

Apples and oranges. An employee EXPECTS crap from the boss - that's part of
the employment agreement! The boss doesn't expect the government to be his
adversary... or didn't until recently.



You must have had nothing but crappy jobs/bosses. I've had many good
bosses and I also treat my employees well.

Also, it's nonsense that
someone who is making a good living is going to shut down his company
because his taxes go up a wee bit. He's not going to do that anymore
then he would shut down his business (if he was still making a good
living) because the price of gas went up. And if he's not making a
good living getting a $5000 tax cut is not going to keep him in
business.

I guess you never read Atlas Shrugged.

Of course that was fiction, but why are Democrats today - including the
president - drawing a big target on corporations who move their headquarters
offshore to avoid taxes?


So do you think YOU should be able to move your "headquarters" for
your personal job income "offshore" and avoid taxes?

I saw a comparison recently between California and Texas, our first and
second most populace states. The unemployment rate in Texas is one percent
below the national average, California is three percent above. Texas added
500,000 new jobs in the past year, California lost about a million. And so
on.

There are many differences between the two states, but the tax load is
certainly one of the biggest.


No, the significant difference is that Texas takes in HUGE taxes from
oil. They have money coming out their ears compared to most other
states. that's why employeement is lower in Texas, because they have
HIGHER taxes, just taxed on stuff before it gets to retail.

On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:42:16 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:



No, the significant difference is that Texas takes in HUGE taxes from
oil. They have money coming out their ears compared to most other
states. that's why employeement is lower in Texas, because they have
HIGHER taxes, just taxed on stuff before it gets to retail.

Wrong! The reason is Texas' constitution says there can be no deficit
spending. The money has to be there before we spend it. There are no
pie in the sky programs to be paid in the future.

Just for grins, explain to me how higher taxes would equal lower
unemployment.

On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:59:08 -0600, Andy Asberry
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:42:16 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:



No, the significant difference is that Texas takes in HUGE taxes from
oil. They have money coming out their ears compared to most other
states. that's why employeement is lower in Texas, because they have
HIGHER taxes, just taxed on stuff before it gets to retail.

Wrong! The reason is Texas' constitution says there can be no deficit
spending. The money has to be there before we spend it. There are no
pie in the sky programs to be paid in the future.

Just for grins, explain to me how higher taxes would equal lower
unemployment.


He didn't say that, just the opposite. He says higher taxes is a
cause for low employment. That might be, since a small company that
must pay higher taxes (for the same output) there is less money for
company expansion, new projects, and new hires. I like the tax
structure for Texas, but probably would not choose to live there.

"Andy Asberry" wrote in message

Just for grins, explain to me how higher taxes would equal lower
unemployment.

Simple. We pay more taxes, government has more money. Therefore,
congressmen can hire more family members on their staff.

On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:59:08 -0600, Andy Asberry
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:42:16 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:



No, the significant difference is that Texas takes in HUGE taxes from
oil. They have money coming out their ears compared to most other
states. that's why employeement is lower in Texas, because they have
HIGHER taxes, just taxed on stuff before it gets to retail.

Wrong! The reason is Texas' constitution says there can be no deficit
spending. The money has to be there before we spend it. There are no
pie in the sky programs to be paid in the future.


That's true of most states.

Just for grins, explain to me how higher taxes would equal lower
unemployment.

Because a lot of the tax comes from out of state and supports instate
work. they have a huge highway program that's all state funded from
taxes.