Hi,

I'm interested in buying one of these radiators, but I am having a
hard time believing the BTU ratings on these units. Is the 12,000
BTU's really possible in a 3'x3' radiator? I have a Runtal radiator
that is larger and it is only 2,000 BTU's. What do you think?

http://www.radiatorshowroom.co.uk/yo...-radiator.html

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

Aaron Fude wrote:

I'm interested in buying one of these radiators, but I am having a
hard time believing the BTU ratings on these units. Is the 12,000
BTU's really possible in a 3'x3' radiator? I have a Runtal radiator
that is larger and it is only 2,000 BTU's. What do you think?

http://www.radiatorshowroom.co.uk/yo...-radiator.html

A watts to BTU conversion is pretty straightforward:
http://www.heatershop.com/btu_calculator.htm

The size does not matter.

R

On Jan 22, 12:21*pm, Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,

I'm interested in buying one of these radiators, but I am having a
hard time believing the BTU ratings on these units. Is the 12,000
BTU's really possible in a 3'x3' radiator? I have a Runtal radiator
that is larger and it is only 2,000 BTU's. What do you think?

http://www.radiatorshowroom.co.uk/yo...-radiator.html

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

It looks right and takes maybe a 40a fuse, do you have the right
wiring and circuit. It will only cost a few hundred a month to run.

"Aaron Fude" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm interested in buying one of these radiators, but I am having a
hard time believing the BTU ratings on these units. Is the 12,000
BTU's really possible in a 3'x3' radiator? I have a Runtal radiator
that is larger and it is only 2,000 BTU's. What do you think?

http://www.radiatorshowroom.co.uk/yo...-radiator.html

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

Sure sounds reasonable to me. Consider the size of a hob on an electric
range. They can be that much over a much smaller area. I'd guess at that
output is gets very warm though. And you need 240V.

Your Runtal sounds wimpy for 2000 Btu and being larger. A 15A apace heater
is about 5100 Btu.

"ransley" wrote in message
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On Jan 22, 12:21 pm, Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,

I'm interested in buying one of these radiators, but I am having a
hard time believing the BTU ratings on these units. Is the 12,000
BTU's really possible in a 3'x3' radiator? I have a Runtal radiator
that is larger and it is only 2,000 BTU's. What do you think?

http://www.radiatorshowroom.co.uk/yo...-radiator.html

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

It looks right and takes maybe a 40a fuse, do you have the right
wiring and circuit. It will only cost a few hundred a month to run.

************************************************** ***

Made in England so you can figure is it 240V or 15A draw. Did you see the
prices though? The big ones runs about $1500 US. The Pound is 1.38 right
now.

On Jan 22, 1:34*pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
"ransley" wrote in message

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On Jan 22, 12:21 pm, Aaron Fude wrote:

Hi,

I'm interested in buying one of these radiators, but I am having a
hard time believing the BTU ratings on these units. Is the 12,000
BTU's really possible in a 3'x3' radiator? I have a Runtal radiator
that is larger and it is only 2,000 BTU's. What do you think?

http://www.radiatorshowroom.co.uk/yo...-radiator.html

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

It looks right and takes maybe a 40a fuse, do you have the right
wiring and circuit. It will only cost a few hundred a month to run.

************************************************** ***

Made in England so you can figure is it 240V or 15A draw. * Did you see the
prices though? *The big ones runs about $1500 US. *The Pound is 1.38 right
now.

1500$ so England has its share of over priced stuff too.

I've been assuming that the heater is hydronic. What leads you to
believe it's electric?

"Aaron Fude" wrote in message
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I've been assuming that the heater is hydronic. What leads you to
believe it's electric?


*The giveaway is watts. They could be self contained hydronic heaters with
electric elements to heat the liquid. I would be concerned about the
heaters being approved for use in the USA and also whether the electrical
connections are compatible with USA methods of connection.

John Grabowski wrote:
"Aaron Fude" wrote in message

I've been assuming that the heater is hydronic. What leads you to
believe it's electric?

*The giveaway is watts. They could be self contained hydronic heaters with
electric elements to heat the liquid. I would be concerned about the
heaters being approved for use in the USA and also whether the electrical
connections are compatible with USA methods of connection.

I assumed that they were electric for the same reason - I've never
seen watts as a unit measurement for anything other than an electric
heater/radiator. After a quick Google I found the technical specs and
it is indeed a hydronic radiator. The specs have installation
instructions and reference PFTE tape and valves, so that's pretty
definitive.

I wonder why they give both BTU/h and watts...

R

"Handplanes" wrote in message
I assumed that they were electric for the same reason - I've never
seen watts as a unit measurement for anything other than an electric
heater/radiator. After a quick Google I found the technical specs and
it is indeed a hydronic radiator. The specs have installation
instructions and reference PFTE tape and valves, so that's pretty
definitive.

I wonder why they give both BTU/h and watts...

R

Those crazy Europeans. They use kW for motor ratings instead of horsepower
too.

Going back, I saw this
Description
You Square by Eskimo is a stylish and contemporary design that is
suitable for any heating system.

They must mean any hot water or steam system.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

Those crazy Europeans. They use kW for motor ratings instead of horsepower
too.

Going back, I saw this
Description
You Square by Eskimo is a stylish and contemporary design that is
suitable for any heating system.

They must mean any hot water or steam system.

Or nyooklear.

R

On Jan 23, 12:27*pm, Handplanes wrote:
John Grabowski wrote:
"Aaron Fude" wrote in message

I've been assuming that the heater is hydronic. What leads you to
believe it's electric?

*The giveaway is watts. *They could be self contained hydronic heaters with
electric elements to heat the liquid. *I would be concerned about the
heaters being approved for use in the USA and also whether the electrical
connections are compatible with USA methods of connection.

I assumed that they were electric for the same reason - I've never
seen watts as a unit measurement for anything other than an electric
heater/radiator. *After a quick Google I found the technical specs and
it is indeed a hydronic radiator. *The specs have installation
instructions and reference PFTE tape and valves, so that's pretty
definitive.

I wonder why they give both BTU/h and watts...

R


OK, now that we've established their hydronic nature, do you believe
the BTU ratings?

Aaron Fude wrote:

OK, now that we've established their hydronic nature, do you believe
the BTU ratings?

The heat output does seem to be on the high side given the size of the
unit, but since I know nothing about the construction and the amount
of radiant surface, or how they calculate the heat output...my belief
means nothing.

Take a look at the technical information, contact the manufacturer,
etc.

R

The units are rated in watts. That's how we know they are
electric.

The one I am familiar with, is 1500 watts gives 5,200 BTU.
That's a normal, household heater sold in the USA. These
don't seem to have any advantage. I like the black box
"ceramic" heaters, they seem safer. They are supposed to
also be higher efficiency, but who can tell?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"Aaron Fude" wrote in message
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I've been assuming that the heater is hydronic. What leads
you to
believe it's electric?

In article , Stormin Mormon wrote:
The units are rated in watts. That's how we know they are
electric.

The one I am familiar with, is 1500 watts gives 5,200 BTU.
That's a normal, household heater sold in the USA. These
don't seem to have any advantage. I like the black box
"ceramic" heaters, they seem safer. They are supposed to
also be higher efficiency, but who can tell?

Electric resistie heaters are normally essentially 100% efficient at
converting electricity to heat at the rate of 3413 BTU/hour per kilowatt.

1500 watts is about 5120 BTU/hour.

Differences in heater type/style largely affect only where the heat
goes.
If the heat is heavily radiant, some may go far (into other rooms
through open doorways and archways), and a bit could be optical band
infrared and a trace could be visible light that escapes the house through
windows. Some radiant heaters may be good at heating a targeted area,
maybe including one person or a couple wanting the warmth.
Non-radiant heat is usually mostly either convected upward (may easily
disproportionally heat the ceiling) or is fan-blown (where it goes depends
on various design and heater placement factors).
Electric blankets have same efficiency of 3.413 BTU/hour per watt, but
can target warmth to what they are adjacent to.

- Don Klipstein )

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
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The units are rated in watts. That's how we know they are
electric.

The one I am familiar with, is 1500 watts gives 5,200 BTU.
That's a normal, household heater sold in the USA. These
don't seem to have any advantage. I like the black box
"ceramic" heaters, they seem safer. They are supposed to
also be higher efficiency, but who can tell?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
Changing electricity into heat is pretty much 100% efficient regardless of
the way it is done.
Perhaps the ceramic heater is .0001% more efficient at it, but as you say,
"who can tell".