will any type of painting process hold on the interior side of a vinyl
window frame?

thanks,
bill

automotive paint with the vinyl additive will. (used on bumpers)

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"bill allemann" wrote in message
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will any type of painting process hold on the interior side of a vinyl
window frame?

thanks,
bill

On Dec 3, 1:30*pm, "bill allemann"
wrote:
will any type of painting process hold on the interior side of a vinyl
window frame?

thanks,
bill

XIM has a plastic primer sold at real paint stores, I dont know about
vinyl but look online, I used it for auto trim.

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:30:56 -0600, "bill allemann"
wrote:

will any type of painting process hold on the interior side of a vinyl
window frame?

thanks,
bill


Krylon paint brand.

"Question: My house shutters are looking shabby and need repainted.
The shutters are made of vinyl and I want to be sure that whatever
paint I use will last. Which spray paint do you recommend?

Answer: We recommend that you use Krylon Fusion for Plastic® on your
exterior vinyl shutters. Fusion for Plastic bonds easily to hard,
rigid, non-flexing vinyl surfaces, such as vinyl shutters and
vinyl-clad windows. It’s also easy to use because no sanding or
priming is required. Plus, it dries in 15 minutes or less."

http://www.krylon.com/expert-advice/...ters/index.jsp

On Dec 3, 3:28*pm, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:30:56 -0600, "bill allemann"

wrote:
will any type of painting process hold on the interior side of a vinyl
window frame?

thanks,
bill

Krylon paint brand.

"Question: My house shutters are looking shabby and need repainted.
The shutters are made of vinyl and I want to be sure that whatever
paint I use will last. *Which spray paint do you recommend?

Answer: We recommend that you use Krylon Fusion for Plastic® on your
exterior vinyl shutters. *Fusion for Plastic bonds easily to hard,
rigid, non-flexing vinyl surfaces, such as vinyl shutters and
vinyl-clad windows. *It’s also easy to use because no sanding or
priming is required. *Plus, it dries in 15 minutes or less."

http://www.krylon.com/expert-advice/...-shutters/inde...

I used Krylon Fusion on an inexpensive plastic patio set like this:

http://www.btinternet.com/~hognosesa...asticchair.gif

It took something like 6 - 8 cans to do 4 chairs and the 4' diameter
table.

It looked pretty good for the first season, but then it started to
chip. I touched it all up with a few more cans but it started to flake
off after a few months.

Tip: don't try to knock a block of ice off the chair seat. Most of the
paint stuck to the ice, not the chair.

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:46:20 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

I used Krylon Fusion on an inexpensive plastic patio set like this:

http://www.btinternet.com/~hognosesa...asticchair.gif

It took something like 6 - 8 cans to do 4 chairs and the 4' diameter
table.

It looked pretty good for the first season, but then it started to
chip. I touched it all up with a few more cans but it started to flake
off after a few months.

The company suggests allowing the paint to cure for seven days, before
out door use. Did you do that?

on 12/3/2008 2:30 PM bill allemann said the following:
will any type of painting process hold on the interior side of a vinyl
window frame?

thanks,
bill



Both Rustoleum and now Krylon have spray paint made for plastic. The
colors are limited though.
Rustoleum has a vinyl primer which will allow any type of paint to cover. .

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

DerbyDad03 wrote in
:

I used Krylon Fusion on an inexpensive plastic patio set like this:

http://www.btinternet.com/~hognosesa...asticchair.gif

It took something like 6 - 8 cans to do 4 chairs and the 4' diameter
table.

It looked pretty good for the first season, but then it started to
chip. I touched it all up with a few more cans but it started to flake
off after a few months.

Tip: don't try to knock a block of ice off the chair seat. Most of the
paint stuck to the ice, not the chair.

The lack of adhesion is likely due to Krylon misleading you into
insufficient preparation. Krylon's claim of "prep unneeded"
notwithstanding, nothing will stick very well to the layer of oxidized
plastic that covers the good plastic underneath, because the oxidation
itself doesn't stick.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:16:49 +0000 (UTC), "SteveBell"
wrote:

DerbyDad03 wrote in
:

I used Krylon Fusion on an inexpensive plastic patio set like this:

http://www.btinternet.com/~hognosesa...asticchair.gif

It took something like 6 - 8 cans to do 4 chairs and the 4' diameter
table.

It looked pretty good for the first season, but then it started to
chip. I touched it all up with a few more cans but it started to flake
off after a few months.

Tip: don't try to knock a block of ice off the chair seat. Most of the
paint stuck to the ice, not the chair.

The lack of adhesion is likely due to Krylon misleading you into
insufficient preparation. Krylon's claim of "prep unneeded"
notwithstanding, nothing will stick very well to the layer of oxidized
plastic that covers the good plastic underneath, because the oxidation
itself doesn't stick.

Good one. All in the prep work.

The site, under projects has these instructions for the resin chair
above..

"Materials
Krylon Fusion for Plastic® - Twilight (#2440)
Resin Chair

General Supplies

Ammonia-based cleaner or paint thinner

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Drop cloth
Low-tack masking tape
Drop cloth
Instructions

Using ammonia-based cleaner, wipe down chair to remove any dust or
particles. If the plastic is new, wipe down with paint thinner for
best results.

http://www.krylon.com/projects/outdo...hair/index.jsp

On Dec 3, 4:08*pm, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:46:20 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03

wrote:
I used Krylon Fusion on an inexpensive plastic patio set like this:

http://www.btinternet.com/~hognosesa...asticchair.gif

It took something like 6 - 8 cans to do 4 chairs and the 4' diameter
table.

It looked pretty good for the first season, but then it started to
chip. I touched it all up with a few more cans but it started to flake
off after a few months.

The company suggests allowing the paint to cure for seven days, before
out door use. Did you do that?

OK, I lied. I just got home and checked the product.

It was the Rust-Oleum Specialty Paint For Plastic, not the Krylon
Fusion.

Prep instructions were followed:
For age or weathered surfaces...clean with soap & water, rinse and let
dry. (The set was at least 2 years old, living on the deck the whole
time.)

Dry & Recoat instructions were followed:
Standard spray paint times...to touch in 20 - 30 minutes, to handle in
1 hour, fully dry in 24 hours. Second coat within 1 hour or after 48.

There is a note that says "Maximum paint adhesion and durability is
achieved in 5 -7 days." Nothing about not using it or keeping it
inside during this time period. In any case, as I said, the paint
lasted for a full summer season - not every day use by any means, and
not for anything other than reading the paper and having a snack on
the deck.

It was during the spring clean-up that I noticed the paint was
chipping, except for the one chair where I knocked the ice off during
the winter and the paint came with it.

The can doesn't say it, but perhaps the painted surfaces are not meant
to be left out for the winter.

On Dec 3, 4:16*pm, "SteveBell"
wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote in
:

I used Krylon Fusion on an inexpensive plastic patio set like this:

http://www.btinternet.com/~hognosesa...asticchair.gif

It took something like 6 - 8 cans to do 4 chairs and the 4' diameter
table.

It looked pretty good for the first season, but then it started to
chip. I touched it all up with a few more cans but it started to flake
off after a few months.

Tip: don't try to knock a block of ice off the chair seat. Most of the
paint stuck to the ice, not the chair.

The lack of adhesion is likely due to Krylon misleading you into
insufficient preparation. Krylon's claim of "prep unneeded"
notwithstanding, nothing will stick very well to the layer of oxidized
plastic that covers the good plastic underneath, because the oxidation
itself doesn't stick.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX

See my earlier post about using the Rust-Oleum product, not the Krylon
product. My mistake.

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:08:38 -0800 (PST), ransley
wrote:

On Dec 3, 1:30Â*pm, "bill allemann"
wrote:
will any type of painting process hold on the interior side of a vinyl
window frame?

thanks,
bill

XIM has a plastic primer sold at real paint stores, I dont know about
vinyl but look online, I used it for auto trim.


There are obviously some out there, because you can buy vinyl windows
painted on the outside, as well as painted on the inside, or painted
both sides, from some companies.

I believe Krylon makes a compatible producr. So does Plasticote.
Colours will be limitted.

Automotive finish with the "flexane" adittive used on urethane bumpers
should also work, but preparation is important and critical.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:28:53 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:30:56 -0600, "bill allemann"
wrote:

will any type of painting process hold on the interior side of a vinyl
window frame?

thanks,
bill


Krylon paint brand.

"Question: My house shutters are looking shabby and need repainted.
The shutters are made of vinyl and I want to be sure that whatever
paint I use will last. Which spray paint do you recommend?

Answer: We recommend that you use Krylon Fusion for Plastic® on your
exterior vinyl shutters. Fusion for Plastic bonds easily to hard,
rigid, non-flexing vinyl surfaces, such as vinyl shutters and
vinyl-clad windows. Its also easy to use because no sanding or
priming is required. Plus, it dries in 15 minutes or less."

http://www.krylon.com/expert-advice/...ters/index.jsp


Another product just came to mind. A lot of the third generation latex
exterior house paints are "Alkyd Modified" and work extremely well on
both aluminum and vinyl siding.