Several years ago, I had woodtone vinyl flooring installed by Lowe's.
A couple of months later, all the seams were opening up. They came
back, injected mastic under the seams, and rolled them flat. They were
barely out of the drive way when they opened again. Again they came
back, same routine. This time the fix lasted for several more months,
but one seam started to open again.

I now have a seam that is 6'8" long that is open and curling up. I'm
not terribly concerned with cosmetics, I just don't want the edges to
start fraying and end up with a bald spot. I thought about a metal
mending strip, but they only come in 6' lengths and I didn't want to
have to buy two pieces and discard 5'4" of one. Also, I couldn't find
any in woodtone.

I saw an ad for some non-skid tape: sticky on one side, textured
non-slip finish on the other. Since it's intended for walking on, I
figure it must be pretty tough and have thought about using it to
cover that open seam. Like I said, I don't care much about the
cosmetics, but if there were something similar in a woodtone, I would
go for that.

Any suggestions? Alternative ideas?

"Richard Evans" wrote in message
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Several years ago, I had woodtone vinyl flooring installed by Lowe's.
A couple of months later, all the seams were opening up. They came
back, injected mastic under the seams, and rolled them flat. They were
barely out of the drive way when they opened again. Again they came
back, same routine. This time the fix lasted for several more months,
but one seam started to open again.

I now have a seam that is 6'8" long that is open and curling up. I'm
not terribly concerned with cosmetics, I just don't want the edges to
start fraying and end up with a bald spot. I thought about a metal
mending strip, but they only come in 6' lengths and I didn't want to
have to buy two pieces and discard 5'4" of one. Also, I couldn't find
any in woodtone.

I saw an ad for some non-skid tape: sticky on one side, textured
non-slip finish on the other. Since it's intended for walking on, I
figure it must be pretty tough and have thought about using it to
cover that open seam. Like I said, I don't care much about the
cosmetics, but if there were something similar in a woodtone, I would
go for that.

Any suggestions? Alternative ideas?

Politely escalate the problem at Lowe's-- all the way to corporate HQ if
necessary. Call the vinyl manufacturer too-- though they'll say it's an
"installation issue" and not their problem.

On Dec 3, 7:57*am, Richard Evans wrote:
Several years ago, I had woodtone vinyl flooring installed by Lowe's.
A couple of months later, all the seams were opening up. They came
back, injected mastic under the seams, and rolled them flat. They were
barely out of the drive way when they opened again. Again they came
back, same routine. This time the fix lasted for several more months,
but one seam started to open again.

I now have a seam that is 6'8" long that is open and curling up. I'm
not terribly concerned with cosmetics, I just don't want the edges to
start fraying and end up with a bald spot. I thought about a metal
mending strip, but they only come in 6' lengths and I didn't want to
have to buy two pieces and discard 5'4" of one. Also, I couldn't find
any in woodtone.

I saw an ad for some non-skid tape: sticky on one side, textured
non-slip finish on the other. Since it's intended for walking on, I
figure it must be pretty tough and have thought about using it to
cover that open seam. Like I said, I don't care much about the
cosmetics, but if there were something similar in a woodtone, I would
go for that.

Any suggestions? Alternative ideas?

Since it was a problem from day one as in a poor instal I would call
lowes again.

"ransley" wrote in message
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On Dec 3, 7:57 am, Richard Evans wrote:
Several years ago, I had woodtone vinyl flooring installed by
Lowe's.
A couple of months later, all the seams were opening up. They came
back, injected mastic under the seams, and rolled them flat. They
were
barely out of the drive way when they opened again. Again they came
back, same routine. This time the fix lasted for several more
months,
but one seam started to open again.

I now have a seam that is 6'8" long that is open and curling up. I'm
not terribly concerned with cosmetics, I just don't want the edges
to
start fraying and end up with a bald spot. I thought about a metal
mending strip, but they only come in 6' lengths and I didn't want to
have to buy two pieces and discard 5'4" of one. Also, I couldn't
find
any in woodtone.

I saw an ad for some non-skid tape: sticky on one side, textured
non-slip finish on the other. Since it's intended for walking on, I
figure it must be pretty tough and have thought about using it to
cover that open seam. Like I said, I don't care much about the
cosmetics, but if there were something similar in a woodtone, I
would
go for that.

Any suggestions? Alternative ideas?

Since it was a problem from day one as in a poor instal I would call
lowes again.

Write a letter to your local newspaper and the Better Business Bureau.
Send it to Lowes and tell them what your problem is and that if they
don't fix it this time, that letter is going to be sent to the
addressees.

That usually works pretty good for me.

"JC" wrote:


Since it was a problem from day one as in a poor instal I would call
lowes again.


Write a letter to your local newspaper and the Better Business Bureau.
Send it to Lowes and tell them what your problem is and that if they
don't fix it this time, that letter is going to be sent to the
addressees.

That usually works pretty good for me.

I'm not interested in going that route, I just want to stop the damage
from spreading.

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Richard Evans spewed forth:
"JC" wrote:


Since it was a problem from day one as in a poor instal I would call
lowes again.


Write a letter to your local newspaper and the Better Business
Bureau. Send it to Lowes and tell them what your problem is and that
if they don't fix it this time, that letter is going to be sent to
the addressees.

That usually works pretty good for me.

I'm not interested in going that route, I just want to stop the damage
from spreading.

unless it was an inlaid vinyl, the seams should have been coated with a seam
sealer, which fuses the two together.
Being that the floor is curling tells me that they did not use a seam sealer
and the problem will continue to get worse ever time you mop the floor

"Richard Evans" wrote:
"JC" wrote:


Since it was a problem from day one as in a poor instal I would call
lowes again.


Write a letter to your local newspaper and the Better Business Bureau.
Send it to Lowes and tell them what your problem is and that if they
don't fix it this time, that letter is going to be sent to the
addressees.

That usually works pretty good for me.

I'm not interested in going that route, I just want to stop the damage
from spreading.


The reason that big box stores such as Lowe's and Home Despot can offer such
a low price on installed products is that they pick the lowest bidder at the
time to do the work for them. They count on their installed products going
into houses that are being flipped, rented, or into other situations in
which the end user is likely not to complain about the shoddy workmanship.

They also count on nice people, such as yourself, not wanting to "trouble
them" with complaints. By not holding them accountable, the cycle
continues, and more people will continue to fall victim to their practices.

Jon

"Jon Danniken" wrote in message
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"Richard Evans" wrote:
"JC" wrote:


Since it was a problem from day one as in a poor instal I would
call
lowes again.


Write a letter to your local newspaper and the Better Business
Bureau.
Send it to Lowes and tell them what your problem is and that if
they
don't fix it this time, that letter is going to be sent to the
addressees.

That usually works pretty good for me.

I'm not interested in going that route, I just want to stop the
damage
from spreading.


The reason that big box stores such as Lowe's and Home Despot can
offer such a low price on installed products is that they pick the
lowest bidder at the time to do the work for them. They count on
their installed products going into houses that are being flipped,
rented, or into other situations in which the end user is likely not
to complain about the shoddy workmanship.

They also count on nice people, such as yourself, not wanting to
"trouble them" with complaints. By not holding them accountable,
the cycle continues, and more people will continue to fall victim to
their practices.

Jon





And if you don't want to go the route I suggested, you might as well
leave it as it is. Here's what you're up against. When it comes
unglued, the glue is still there. And it gathers dirt, dust and
whatever. And just injecting more glue is a waste because until you
get all that old glue up and clean the area spic and span, all the
repairs in the world are not going to work. You need to have the
installers come out, cut about a three foot wide section out and
replace it properly. What you will have then, if you get shoddy
workmanship, is TWO place that could come unseamed, but if you get
good workmanship, your problem is solved.

If you change your mind and go the route I usggested, add the local TV
consumer reporter to the addresses.

Richard Evans wrote:
"JC" wrote:


Since it was a problem from day one as in a poor instal I would call
lowes again.


Write a letter to your local newspaper and the Better Business
Bureau. Send it to Lowes and tell them what your problem is and that
if they don't fix it this time, that letter is going to be sent to
the addressees.

That usually works pretty good for me.

I'm not interested in going that route, I just want to stop the damage
from spreading.

Nails.


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"Jon Danniken" wrote:

They also count on nice people, such as yourself, not wanting to "trouble
them" with complaints. By not holding them accountable, the cycle
continues, and more people will continue to fall victim to their practices.

I'm not a nice person, I just understand cost/benefit analysis. If I
tried to "hold accountable" every contractor who has screwed up
repairs to my house in the last 20 years, my life would grind to a
halt. I really don't want a discussion of customer service here, just
suggestions for fixing the problem.

"dadiOH" wrote:

Richard Evans wrote:
"JC" wrote:


Since it was a problem from day one as in a poor instal I would call
lowes again.


Write a letter to your local newspaper and the Better Business
Bureau. Send it to Lowes and tell them what your problem is and that
if they don't fix it this time, that letter is going to be sent to
the addressees.

That usually works pretty good for me.

I'm not interested in going that route, I just want to stop the damage
from spreading.

Nails.

That's what I've been doing. Black carpet tacks sort of blend with the
background.

"Richard Evans" wrote in message
...
"Jon Danniken" wrote:

They also count on nice people, such as yourself, not wanting to "trouble
them" with complaints. By not holding them accountable, the cycle
continues, and more people will continue to fall victim to their
practices.

I'm not a nice person, I just understand cost/benefit analysis. If I
tried to "hold accountable" every contractor who has screwed up
repairs to my house in the last 20 years, my life would grind to a
halt. I really don't want a discussion of customer service here, just
suggestions for fixing the problem.

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