ransley wrote:

On Oct 7, 3:00 am, Ron Hardin wrote:
I've stripped two of the screws holding the hard
drive in my laptop (apparently lock-tite'd, from
the crack! noise the other two made when unscrewed
in my best philips screwing technique). (The chat
agent on the line unhelpfully had just asked me to
try removing the HD and memory, which is the rough
equivalent in this model of ``remove roof and
temporarily set aside'' for home repairs, as you
have to remove the screen and keyboard to get at
the memory. It must have been a little chat-agent
joke. Anyway that project stopped when the screws
stripped.)

I take it the next step is a screw extractor,
which I see too large a variety of to make a
choice. What's the most probably successful kind
of screw extractor? I have no experience with
extractors. I'd experiment, but would like to get
it done as neatly as possible on the first try.

Very tiny philips screw. A 3/32 drill fits in the
hole left by the other, removed, screws.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

If they are not broken but just stripped and cant catch a thread maybe
crazy glue the screwdriver to the screw then pull up to catch the
thread , use a bit of alcohol or laquer thinner to clean screw and
driver so they bond, or raise the screw with a knife while trying to
screw out to catch a thread first, since it wont come outr but turns
im guessing there is thread that just wont bite

It's the head I stripped. The threads are fine. I suspect it's
been lock-tite'd, causing the stripped head in the first place.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

On Oct 7, 6:35*am, Ron Hardin wrote:
ransley wrote:

On Oct 7, 3:00 am, Ron Hardin wrote:
I've stripped two of the screws holding the hard
drive in my laptop (apparently lock-tite'd, from
the crack! noise the other two made when unscrewed
in my best philips screwing technique). *(The chat
agent on the line unhelpfully had just asked me to
try removing the HD and memory, which is the rough
equivalent in this model of ``remove roof and
temporarily set aside'' for home repairs, as you
have to remove the screen and keyboard to get at
the memory. *It must have been a little chat-agent
joke. *Anyway that project stopped when the screws
stripped.)

I take it the next step is a screw extractor,
which I see too large a variety of to make a
choice. *What's the most probably successful kind
of screw extractor? *I have no experience with
extractors. *I'd experiment, but would like to get
it done as neatly as possible on the first try.

Very tiny philips screw. *A 3/32 drill fits in the
hole left by the other, removed, screws.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

If they are not broken but just stripped and cant catch a thread maybe
crazy glue the screwdriver to the screw then pull up to catch the
thread , use a bit of alcohol or laquer thinner to clean screw and
driver so they bond, or *raise the screw with a knife while trying to
screw out to catch a thread first, since it wont come outr but turns
im guessing there is thread that just wont bite

It's the head I stripped. *The threads are fine. *I suspect it's
been lock-tite'd, causing the stripped head in the first place.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Have you trying heating the screws with a small-tip soldering iron?
Heat should dissipate fast enough not to cause any damage to drive.
Otherwise, drilling-out would be another alternative.

wrote:

On Oct 7, 6:35 am, Ron Hardin wrote:
ransley wrote:

On Oct 7, 3:00 am, Ron Hardin wrote:
I've stripped two of the screws holding the hard
drive in my laptop (apparently lock-tite'd, from
the crack! noise the other two made when unscrewed
in my best philips screwing technique). (The chat
agent on the line unhelpfully had just asked me to
try removing the HD and memory, which is the rough
equivalent in this model of ``remove roof and
temporarily set aside'' for home repairs, as you
have to remove the screen and keyboard to get at
the memory. It must have been a little chat-agent
joke. Anyway that project stopped when the screws
stripped.)

I take it the next step is a screw extractor,
which I see too large a variety of to make a
choice. What's the most probably successful kind
of screw extractor? I have no experience with
extractors. I'd experiment, but would like to get
it done as neatly as possible on the first try.

Very tiny philips screw. A 3/32 drill fits in the
hole left by the other, removed, screws.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

If they are not broken but just stripped and cant catch a thread maybe
crazy glue the screwdriver to the screw then pull up to catch the
thread , use a bit of alcohol or laquer thinner to clean screw and
driver so they bond, or raise the screw with a knife while trying to
screw out to catch a thread first, since it wont come outr but turns
im guessing there is thread that just wont bite

It's the head I stripped. The threads are fine. I suspect it's
been lock-tite'd, causing the stripped head in the first place.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Have you trying heating the screws with a small-tip soldering iron?
Heat should dissipate fast enough not to cause any damage to drive.
Otherwise, drilling-out would be another alternative.

I was thinking of heating up the screw exactor bit and using that, once
I settle on which extractor to use. The screw is so short that I think
drilling to start an extractor is not possible; I'd need one that goes
from what's there or makes its own hole as necessary, I think.

I don't know that it was lock-tite'd, but the other two screws make the
lock-tite sound when they broke loose and unscrewed. No visible residue
however.

I'd like to avoid putting metal shavings in the case but don't see how
to avoid it, since it's essentially laproscopic surgery to work on it.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

On Oct 7, 8:54*am, Ron Hardin wrote:
wrote:

On Oct 7, 6:35 am, Ron Hardin wrote:
ransley wrote:

On Oct 7, 3:00 am, Ron Hardin wrote:
I've stripped two of the screws holding the hard
drive in my laptop (apparently lock-tite'd, from
the crack! noise the other two made when unscrewed
in my best philips screwing technique). *(The chat
agent on the line unhelpfully had just asked me to
try removing the HD and memory, which is the rough
equivalent in this model of ``remove roof and
temporarily set aside'' for home repairs, as you
have to remove the screen and keyboard to get at
the memory. *It must have been a little chat-agent
joke. *Anyway that project stopped when the screws
stripped.)

I take it the next step is a screw extractor,
which I see too large a variety of to make a
choice. *What's the most probably successful kind
of screw extractor? *I have no experience with
extractors. *I'd experiment, but would like to get
it done as neatly as possible on the first try.

Very tiny philips screw. *A 3/32 drill fits in the
hole left by the other, removed, screws.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

If they are not broken but just stripped and cant catch a thread maybe
crazy glue the screwdriver to the screw then pull up to catch the
thread , use a bit of alcohol or laquer thinner to clean screw and
driver so they bond, or *raise the screw with a knife while trying to
screw out to catch a thread first, since it wont come outr but turns
im guessing there is thread that just wont bite

It's the head I stripped. *The threads are fine. *I suspect it's
been lock-tite'd, causing the stripped head in the first place.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Have you trying heating the screws with a small-tip soldering iron?
Heat should dissipate fast enough not to cause any damage to drive.
Otherwise, drilling-out would be another alternative.

I was thinking of heating up the screw exactor bit and using that, once
I settle on which extractor to use. *The screw is so short that I think
drilling to start an extractor is not possible; I'd need one that goes
from what's there or makes its own hole as necessary, I think.

I don't know that it was lock-tite'd, but the other two screws make the
lock-tite sound when they broke loose and unscrewed. *No visible residue
however.

I'd like to avoid putting metal shavings in the case but don't see how
to avoid it, since it's essentially laproscopic surgery to work on it.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Sometimes they use a lacquer or similar stuff instead of LocTite...so
a little heat may help.
If the screws aren't brass...you could magnetize the bit to keep them
from scattering.

Ron Hardin wrote in
:


I don't know that it was lock-tite'd, but the other two screws make
the lock-tite sound when they broke loose and unscrewed. No visible
residue however.

screwing into plastic really doesn't need any Lock-tite.
some "lock-nuts" use a plastic insert to keep the nut from vibrating loose.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Ron Hardin wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:35 am, Ron Hardin wrote:
ransley wrote:

On Oct 7, 3:00 am, Ron Hardin wrote:
I've stripped two of the screws holding the hard
drive in my laptop (apparently lock-tite'd, from
the crack! noise the other two made when unscrewed
in my best philips screwing technique). (The chat
agent on the line unhelpfully had just asked me to
try removing the HD and memory, which is the rough
equivalent in this model of ``remove roof and
temporarily set aside'' for home repairs, as you
have to remove the screen and keyboard to get at
the memory. It must have been a little chat-agent
joke. Anyway that project stopped when the screws
stripped.)
I take it the next step is a screw extractor,
which I see too large a variety of to make a
choice. What's the most probably successful kind
of screw extractor? I have no experience with
extractors. I'd experiment, but would like to get
it done as neatly as possible on the first try.
Very tiny philips screw. A 3/32 drill fits in the
hole left by the other, removed, screws.
--

On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.
If they are not broken but just stripped and cant catch a thread maybe
crazy glue the screwdriver to the screw then pull up to catch the
thread , use a bit of alcohol or laquer thinner to clean screw and
driver so they bond, or raise the screw with a knife while trying to
screw out to catch a thread first, since it wont come outr but turns
im guessing there is thread that just wont bite
It's the head I stripped. The threads are fine. I suspect it's
been lock-tite'd, causing the stripped head in the first place.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.
Have you trying heating the screws with a small-tip soldering iron?
Heat should dissipate fast enough not to cause any damage to drive.
Otherwise, drilling-out would be another alternative.

I was thinking of heating up the screw exactor bit and using that, once
I settle on which extractor to use. The screw is so short that I think
drilling to start an extractor is not possible; I'd need one that goes
from what's there or makes its own hole as necessary, I think.

I don't know that it was lock-tite'd, but the other two screws make the
lock-tite sound when they broke loose and unscrewed. No visible residue
however.

I'd like to avoid putting metal shavings in the case but don't see how
to avoid it, since it's essentially laproscopic surgery to work on it.
This will sound horrible, but I have on occasioned turned the screw the
other way, to un-seize the threads. Or if the head breaks off, just use
packing tape when I reinstall. Those drives are so tiny, 2 screws will
take the weight- you just need to keep it from flopping around in there.

--
aem sends...

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:40:38 GMT, aemeijers wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:35 am, Ron Hardin wrote:
ransley wrote:

On Oct 7, 3:00 am, Ron Hardin wrote:
I've stripped two of the screws holding the hard
drive in my laptop (apparently lock-tite'd, from
the crack! noise the other two made when unscrewed
in my best philips screwing technique). (The chat
agent on the line unhelpfully had just asked me to
try removing the HD and memory, which is the rough
equivalent in this model of ``remove roof and
temporarily set aside'' for home repairs, as you
have to remove the screen and keyboard to get at
the memory. It must have been a little chat-agent
joke. Anyway that project stopped when the screws
stripped.)
I take it the next step is a screw extractor,
which I see too large a variety of to make a
choice. What's the most probably successful kind
of screw extractor? I have no experience with
extractors. I'd experiment, but would like to get
it done as neatly as possible on the first try.
Very tiny philips screw. A 3/32 drill fits in the
hole left by the other, removed, screws.
--

On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.
If they are not broken but just stripped and cant catch a thread maybe
crazy glue the screwdriver to the screw then pull up to catch the
thread , use a bit of alcohol or laquer thinner to clean screw and
driver so they bond, or raise the screw with a knife while trying to
screw out to catch a thread first, since it wont come outr but turns
im guessing there is thread that just wont bite
It's the head I stripped. The threads are fine. I suspect it's
been lock-tite'd, causing the stripped head in the first place.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.
Have you trying heating the screws with a small-tip soldering iron?
Heat should dissipate fast enough not to cause any damage to drive.
Otherwise, drilling-out would be another alternative.

I was thinking of heating up the screw exactor bit and using that, once
I settle on which extractor to use. The screw is so short that I think
drilling to start an extractor is not possible; I'd need one that goes
from what's there or makes its own hole as necessary, I think.

I don't know that it was lock-tite'd, but the other two screws make the
lock-tite sound when they broke loose and unscrewed. No visible residue
however.

If you suspect locktite, heat the head of the screw with a soldering
iron before removing. The heat breaks the bond.

I'd like to avoid putting metal shavings in the case but don't see how
to avoid it, since it's essentially laproscopic surgery to work on it.
This will sound horrible, but I have on occasioned turned the screw the
other way, to un-seize the threads. Or if the head breaks off, just use
packing tape when I reinstall. Those drives are so tiny, 2 screws will
take the weight- you just need to keep it from flopping around in there.

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 04:57:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:35*am, Ron Hardin wrote:
ransley wrote:

On Oct 7, 3:00 am, Ron Hardin wrote:
I've stripped two of the screws holding the hard
drive in my laptop (apparently lock-tite'd, from
the crack! noise the other two made when unscrewed
in my best philips screwing technique). *(The chat
agent on the line unhelpfully had just asked me to
try removing the HD and memory, which is the rough
equivalent in this model of ``remove roof and
temporarily set aside'' for home repairs, as you
have to remove the screen and keyboard to get at
the memory. *It must have been a little chat-agent
joke. *Anyway that project stopped when the screws
stripped.)

I take it the next step is a screw extractor,
which I see too large a variety of to make a
choice. *What's the most probably successful kind
of screw extractor? *I have no experience with
extractors. *I'd experiment, but would like to get
it done as neatly as possible on the first try.

Very tiny philips screw. *A 3/32 drill fits in the
hole left by the other, removed, screws.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

If they are not broken but just stripped and cant catch a thread maybe
crazy glue the screwdriver to the screw then pull up to catch the
thread , use a bit of alcohol or laquer thinner to clean screw and
driver so they bond, or *raise the screw with a knife while trying to
screw out to catch a thread first, since it wont come outr but turns
im guessing there is thread that just wont bite

It's the head I stripped. *The threads are fine. *I suspect it's
been lock-tite'd, causing the stripped head in the first place.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Have you trying heating the screws with a small-tip soldering iron?
Heat should dissipate fast enough not to cause any damage to drive.
Otherwise, drilling-out would be another alternative.

No, but it'll melt the laptop case. The insert where the screw is set will come
free and there will no longer be a means to keep the laptop drive in place
other than duct tape.

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:11:53 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:52:01 -0500, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 04:57:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:35*am, Ron Hardin wrote:
ransley wrote:

On Oct 7, 3:00 am, Ron Hardin wrote:
I've stripped two of the screws holding the hard
drive in my laptop (apparently lock-tite'd, from
the crack! noise the other two made when unscrewed
in my best philips screwing technique). *(The chat
agent on the line unhelpfully had just asked me to
try removing the HD and memory, which is the rough
equivalent in this model of ``remove roof and
temporarily set aside'' for home repairs, as you
have to remove the screen and keyboard to get at
the memory. *It must have been a little chat-agent
joke. *Anyway that project stopped when the screws
stripped.)

I take it the next step is a screw extractor,
which I see too large a variety of to make a
choice. *What's the most probably successful kind
of screw extractor? *I have no experience with
extractors. *I'd experiment, but would like to get
it done as neatly as possible on the first try.

Very tiny philips screw. *A 3/32 drill fits in the
hole left by the other, removed, screws.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

If they are not broken but just stripped and cant catch a thread maybe
crazy glue the screwdriver to the screw then pull up to catch the
thread , use a bit of alcohol or laquer thinner to clean screw and
driver so they bond, or *raise the screw with a knife while trying to
screw out to catch a thread first, since it wont come outr but turns
im guessing there is thread that just wont bite

It's the head I stripped. *The threads are fine. *I suspect it's
been lock-tite'd, causing the stripped head in the first place.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Have you trying heating the screws with a small-tip soldering iron?
Heat should dissipate fast enough not to cause any damage to drive.
Otherwise, drilling-out would be another alternative.

No, but it'll melt the laptop case. The insert where the screw is set will come
free and there will no longer be a means to keep the laptop drive in place
other than duct tape.

A minimal level of manual dexterity, intellect, and skill is assumed.

If the insert comes out, glue it back in. That's hardly a problem.

If you had intellect, you wouldn't be applying heat to a plastic case.

Ron Hardin wrote:
....
It's the head I stripped. The threads are fine. I suspect it's
been lock-tite'd, causing the stripped head in the first place.

I'd try one of two things...

1. If you are well acquainted w/ the local jeweler/watchmaker type,
take it into him. They've got all the miniature tools and skill set needed.

2. A spring-loaded "impact" driver w/ the appropriate tip.

--