On Oct 4, 11:35*pm, "jack" wrote:
I have had burst pipes, so I know it happens.

Just as an experiment I took 8" of 1/2" copper and capped one end. *I filled
it with cold water and stuck it in my freezer.
After 30 minutes it was somewhat frozen, and solid after an hour. *But 4
hours later it hasn't burst.

So, why do some pipes burst, but not this one? *The ice expanded out the
top, so it definitely expanded. *Perhaps it has to be physically prevented
from expanding with a right angle piece at the top?

(My cottage has exposed copper pipes and no heat, and I try to avoid
draining them until necessary. When the temperature gets down there I get
antsy. *I am experimenting to get a better idea of just what the danger
really is.)

I can't find the source, but I read an article in a plumbing trade
magazine about the causes of pipes bursting in cold temperatures. The
general gist of things was that it isn't the pressure of the expanding
ice that bursts pipe, but extremely high pressure water, compressed
between two frozen sections, or against a cap or closed valve. The
idea was that the pressure could reach thousands of pounds psi. My
experience is that copper pipe tends to either blow apart solder
joists or split along long runs, while galvanized tends to crack
fittings or break at the threads, where the pipe is thinner from
threading.


JK

My
experience is that copper pipe tends to either blow apart solder
joists or split along long runs, while galvanized tends to crack
fittings or break at the threads, where the pipe is thinner from
threading.
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Is copper more or less likely to break then steel. Steel is obviously
stronger, but also more brittle.