I have to install an outdoor shower for a rinse off to the pool. The shower
valve has a solid brass body and I have to cut a hole about 7" in diameter
to recess the valve into it.

How can I cut a 7" diameter for this? The trim is not much bigger so a
clean cut would be necessary. My thinking is that I draw the outline on the
concrete wall, then drill holes (many holes) along the perimeter using a
hammer drill. Any other ideas greatly appreciated.

MC

MiamiCuse wrote:
I have to install an outdoor shower for a rinse off to the pool. The shower
valve has a solid brass body and I have to cut a hole about 7" in diameter
to recess the valve into it.

How can I cut a 7" diameter for this? The trim is not much bigger so a
clean cut would be necessary. My thinking is that I draw the outline on the
concrete wall, then drill holes (many holes) along the perimeter using a
hammer drill. Any other ideas greatly appreciated.

MC



Get a nice looking piece of 12 x 12 tile or something similar to mount
on the wall - something that you can cut more easily. Then you won't
have to be as concerned about the neatness of the hole in the block
wall. Form follows function.


Build a kind of shelving system with a box to hold the faucet so you
don't have to recess the valve body in the wall. You know, blend the box
into some shelves to hold shampoo, soap, whatever. Form follows function.

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
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MiamiCuse wrote:
I have to install an outdoor shower for a rinse off to the pool. The
shower valve has a solid brass body and I have to cut a hole about 7" in
diameter to recess the valve into it.

How can I cut a 7" diameter for this? The trim is not much bigger so a
clean cut would be necessary. My thinking is that I draw the outline on
the concrete wall, then drill holes (many holes) along the perimeter
using a hammer drill. Any other ideas greatly appreciated.

MC

Get a nice looking piece of 12 x 12 tile or something similar to mount on
the wall - something that you can cut more easily. Then you won't have to
be as concerned about the neatness of the hole in the block wall. Form
follows function.


Build a kind of shelving system with a box to hold the faucet so you don't
have to recess the valve body in the wall. You know, blend the box into
some shelves to hold shampoo, soap, whatever. Form follows function.


I thought about that. However, since it is outdoor rinse shower it really
does not need any shampoo or soap, and my exterior wall is already textured
so I prefer not to make the shower valve a focal point, I am going for more
minimalistic in this case. I guess one option is to over cut a large square
area then use small mosaic between the circle and the square. However it
may stand out too much still.

Thanks!

MC

Rent an diamond grit concrete hole saw, Home depot and others have them.

Sal

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
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I have to install an outdoor shower for a rinse off to the pool. The
shower valve has a solid brass body and I have to cut a hole about 7" in
diameter to recess the valve into it.

How can I cut a 7" diameter for this? The trim is not much bigger so a
clean cut would be necessary. My thinking is that I draw the outline on
the concrete wall, then drill holes (many holes) along the perimeter using
a hammer drill. Any other ideas greatly appreciated.

MC

On Sep 13, 6:13*pm, "MiamiCuse" wrote:
I have to install an outdoor shower for a rinse off to the pool. *The shower
valve has a solid brass body and I have to cut a hole about 7" in diameter
to recess the valve into it.

How can I cut a 7" diameter for this? *The trim is not much bigger so a
clean cut would be necessary. *My thinking is that I draw the outline on the
concrete wall, then drill holes (many holes) along the perimeter using a
hammer drill. *Any other ideas greatly appreciated.

MC

Your chances of making an exact and neat round 7" hole in a concrete
block is just about zero. That size cuts into both the top and bottom
webs plus at least one of the block webs that goes between the sides.
Might be possible with a big 'core drill' but you won't find one at
your local rental outfit. Basically you are talking about removing
half of a block. Drilling with a hammer drill won't get it.

Your choice is to break out half of a block and then 'neaten it up'
somehow.
Harry K

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On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:13:44 -0400, "MiamiCuse"
wrote:

I have to install an outdoor shower for a rinse off to the pool. The
shower
valve has a solid brass body and I have to cut a hole about 7" in diameter
to recess the valve into it.

How can I cut a 7" diameter for this? The trim is not much bigger so a
clean cut would be necessary. My thinking is that I draw the outline on
the
concrete wall, then drill holes (many holes) along the perimeter using a
hammer drill. Any other ideas greatly appreciated.

MC



Do you have a router or a rotozip? You can rig that to a center pivot
and cut a perfect circle with a carbide bit.

I do have a rotary tool (a cheap imitation of Rotozip). I guess may be I
can use it if I can buy the gadget that makes it go around like a compass.
Will the carbide bit really be able to cut concrete I remember using it to
cut drywall and remember it being a bit flimsy.

Thanks,

MC

"MiamiCuse" wrote in message
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I have to install an outdoor shower for a rinse off to the pool. The
shower valve has a solid brass body and I have to cut a hole about 7" in
diameter to recess the valve into it.

How can I cut a 7" diameter for this? The trim is not much bigger so a
clean cut would be necessary. My thinking is that I draw the outline on
the concrete wall, then drill holes (many holes) along the perimeter using
a hammer drill. Any other ideas greatly appreciated.

MC

Core boring drill. Basically a diamond hole saw water fed. $$$$$$$$ best
bet would be call a concrete sawing CO. If it has to be exact and neat I
cant think of any other way .

In article ,
"MiamiCuse" wrote:

I have to install an outdoor shower for a rinse off to the pool. The shower
valve has a solid brass body and I have to cut a hole about 7" in diameter
to recess the valve into it.

How can I cut a 7" diameter for this? The trim is not much bigger so a
clean cut would be necessary. My thinking is that I draw the outline on the
concrete wall, then drill holes (many holes) along the perimeter using a
hammer drill. Any other ideas greatly appreciated.

MC

Drill a small hole for the handle and mount the valve BEHIND the wall

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On Sep 13, 9:13*pm, "MiamiCuse" wrote:
I have to install an outdoor shower for a rinse off to the pool. *The shower
valve has a solid brass body and I have to cut a hole about 7" in diameter
to recess the valve into it.

How can I cut a 7" diameter for this? *The trim is not much bigger so a
clean cut would be necessary. *My thinking is that I draw the outline on the
concrete wall, then drill holes (many holes) along the perimeter using a
hammer drill. *Any other ideas greatly appreciated.

MC

Trusty angle grinder with a masonry blade.

"nick hull" wrote in message
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In article ,
"MiamiCuse" wrote:

I have to install an outdoor shower for a rinse off to the pool. The
shower
valve has a solid brass body and I have to cut a hole about 7" in
diameter
to recess the valve into it.

How can I cut a 7" diameter for this? The trim is not much bigger so a
clean cut would be necessary. My thinking is that I draw the outline on
the
concrete wall, then drill holes (many holes) along the perimeter using a
hammer drill. Any other ideas greatly appreciated.

MC

Drill a small hole for the handle and mount the valve BEHIND the wall


That will not work in my case. I am already trying to mount it from behind.
The entire valve body is wider than 7" espacially with all the
inlet/outlets. The handle part, the part that the manufacturer suggested to
be flushed with the finished wall, the part that will be 90% covered by the
trim, is 7" in diamter. I know the cavity behind the finished wall inside
the actual block has to be bigger to accomodate the piping that are coming
off the sides, and top.

"Harry K" wrote in message
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On Sep 13, 6:13 pm, "MiamiCuse" wrote:
I have to install an outdoor shower for a rinse off to the pool. The
shower
valve has a solid brass body and I have to cut a hole about 7" in diameter
to recess the valve into it.

How can I cut a 7" diameter for this? The trim is not much bigger so a
clean cut would be necessary. My thinking is that I draw the outline on
the
concrete wall, then drill holes (many holes) along the perimeter using a
hammer drill. Any other ideas greatly appreciated.

MC

Your chances of making an exact and neat round 7" hole in a concrete
block is just about zero. That size cuts into both the top and bottom
webs plus at least one of the block webs that goes between the sides.
Might be possible with a big 'core drill' but you won't find one at
your local rental outfit. Basically you are talking about removing
half of a block. Drilling with a hammer drill won't get it.

Your choice is to break out half of a block and then 'neaten it up'
somehow.
Harry K


I understand. I was hoping to get a perfect 7" diameter hole just for a
depth of may be about 1/2", behind that it does not matter. The valve
changes shapes to something different and has inlet outlets coming out of it
I know I have to knock out more of the 7" inside the block and the web.

I was trying to avoid having to do any concrete work to neaten it up because
the texture on the stucco is hard to match.

Thanks,

MiamiCuse wrote:

I have to install an outdoor shower for a rinse off to the pool. The shower
valve has a solid brass body and I have to cut a hole about 7" in diameter
to recess the valve into it.

How can I cut a 7" diameter for this? The trim is not much bigger so a
clean cut would be necessary. My thinking is that I draw the outline on the
concrete wall, then drill holes (many holes) along the perimeter using a
hammer drill. Any other ideas greatly appreciated.

MC




Is the hole to be through the wall of the house, or is it
free-standing? Already enclosed?

sal wrote:
Rent an diamond grit concrete hole saw, Home depot and others have
them.

Second that. These circular concrete hole makers - available in several
diameters - are used to cut holes in concrete slabs for mounting a money
safe. If they can go through 6" of concrete, it won't take much to handle
concrete blocks.

"Norminn" wrote in message
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MiamiCuse wrote:

I have to install an outdoor shower for a rinse off to the pool. The
shower valve has a solid brass body and I have to cut a hole about 7" in
diameter to recess the valve into it.

How can I cut a 7" diameter for this? The trim is not much bigger so a
clean cut would be necessary. My thinking is that I draw the outline on
the concrete wall, then drill holes (many holes) along the perimeter using
a hammer drill. Any other ideas greatly appreciated.

MC


Is the hole to be through the wall of the house, or is it free-standing?
Already enclosed?

I am not sure I understand what you mean by free standing. The wall is a 8"
thick concrete block wall that is an exterior wall of the house. I need to
go through it to get to the plumbing because the hot and cold copper lines
comes up on the inside of that wall. The inside of that concrete wall has
1/2" furring lumber and the copper lines take up that space, then will be
covered by sheet rock.

The hot and cold lines need to connect to the valve.from the inside of that
wall. I am not worried about the inside hole being perfect or not. I
already chipped out a rectangular hole for the lines, The valve has a
circular template that is 7" in diameter which is the hole I need to make.
The trim is slightly larger than that.

Thanks,