This winter the furnace quit in a old house, nobody was living there at
the time. Anyway the pipes froze and the main water shutoff valve was
turned off so that when the heat came back on there would not be a
flood. Problem is the supply side shutoff valve did not shut off and
there was a lot of water damage.

My question is can these valves be repaired or must they be replaced.
Second question, are the fittings standard, this is an old house so the
valve has been there for more than 40 years. I assume it has a coupling
joint of some type.

Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
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"Dennis J." wrote in message
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This winter the furnace quit in a old house, nobody was living there at
the time. Anyway the pipes froze and the main water shutoff valve was
turned off so that when the heat came back on there would not be a
flood. Problem is the supply side shutoff valve did not shut off and
there was a lot of water damage.

My question is can these valves be repaired or must they be replaced.
Second question, are the fittings standard, this is an old house so the
valve has been there for more than 40 years. I assume it has a coupling
joint of some type.

Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
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If the valve froze too it should be replaced as the body may have cracks in
it. It may be possible to repair, but since I don't know what the problem
with it is, what brand you have I can't say for sure. In either case, the
supply has to be shut off at the street so spend a few bucks and put in a
brand new ball valve and be safe.

I don't know what fittings you talk about as being "standard" but all tubing
is and the fitting that go on them are the same size and have been for
decades. Sounds like you need some pro help.

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"Dennis J." wrote in message
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This winter the furnace quit in a old house, nobody was living there at
the time. Anyway the pipes froze and the main water shutoff valve was
turned off so that when the heat came back on there would not be a
flood. Problem is the supply side shutoff valve did not shut off and
there was a lot of water damage.

My question is can these valves be repaired or must they be replaced.
Second question, are the fittings standard, this is an old house so the
valve has been there for more than 40 years. I assume it has a coupling
joint of some type.

Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
--
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If the valve froze too it should be replaced as the body may have cracks in
it. It may be possible to repair, but since I don't know what the problem
with it is, what brand you have I can't say for sure. In either case, the
supply has to be shut off at the street so spend a few bucks and put in a
brand new ball valve and be safe.

I don't know what fittings you talk about as being "standard" but all tubing
is and the fitting that go on them are the same size and have been for
decades. Sounds like you need some pro help.

Thanks Edwin,

The part that you said the fittings have been the same for decades tells
me that I should be able to buy a valve at HD, a "ball valve" and when I
go down there next week, (160 mile drive) I might have a chance of
replacing it. Yes the water at the street has been turned off since
Feb. The supply valve was not frozen, and when I turned the wheel it
rotated just as though it were shutting off, but somehow the valve did
not close off the water line and when the pipes thawed out the water
flowed. I was not there at the time. It is my moms place and she's in
a NH that's why there is nobody there. In any case thanks for your
response, it is helpful to know those fittings are the same and should
be for this house too. If I can't do this then I will have to seek out
a pro.

Dennis
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"Dennis J." wrote in message
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This winter the furnace quit in a old house, nobody was living there at
the time. �Anyway the pipes froze and the main water shutoff valve was
turned off so that when the heat came back on there would not be a
flood. �Problem is the supply side shutoff valve did not shut off and
there was a lot of water damage.

My question is can these valves be repaired or must they be replaced.
Second question, are the fittings standard, this is an old house so the
valve has been there for more than 40 years. �I assume it has a coupling
joint of some type.

Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
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If the valve froze too it should be replaced as the body may have cracks in
it. �It may be possible to repair, but since I don't know what the problem
with it is, what brand you have �I can't say for sure. �In either case, the
supply has to be shut off at the street so spend a few bucks and put in a
brand new ball valve and be safe.

I don't know what fittings you talk about as being "standard" but all tubing
is and the fitting that go on them are the same size and have been for
decades. � Sounds like you need some pro help.

Thanks Edwin,

The part that you said the fittings have been the same for decades tells
me that I should be able to buy a valve at HD, a "ball valve" and when I
go down there next week, (160 mile drive) I might have a chance of
replacing it. �Yes the water at the street has been turned off since
Feb. �The supply valve was not frozen, and when I turned the wheel it
rotated just as though it were shutting off, but somehow the valve did
not close off the water line and when the pipes thawed out the water
flowed. �I was not there at the time. �It is my moms place and she's in
a NH that's why there is nobody there. �In any case thanks for your
response, it is helpful to know those fittings are the same and should
be for this house too. �If I can't do this then I will have to seek out
a pro.

Dennis
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for next winter install a thermostat that turns on a lamp, flashing in
window. ask neighbors to call if they see light flash.

allowing a home to freeze repeatedly can do long term damage, and
definetely install ball valve, they are super reliable

vacant homes are at great risk of vandalism, espically arson.

might be a good idea to rent it out free or low cost to a realtive for
security.

if ou tell homeowners home is vacant expect insurance to increase by
5.....

5 times cost.....

if you dont tell insurance and say fire occurs, they will investigate,
and possibly not pay

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On Jun 28, 10:54?am, "Dennis J." wrote:
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"Dennis J." wrote in message
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This winter the furnace quit in a old house, nobody was living there at
the time. ?Anyway the pipes froze and the main water shutoff valve was
turned off so that when the heat came back on there would not be a
flood. ?Problem is the supply side shutoff valve did not shut off and
there was a lot of water damage.

My question is can these valves be repaired or must they be replaced.
Second question, are the fittings standard, this is an old house so the
valve has been there for more than 40 years. ?I assume it has a
coupling
joint of some type.

Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
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If the valve froze too it should be replaced as the body may have cracks
in
it. ?It may be possible to repair, but since I don't know what the
problem
with it is, what brand you have ?I can't say for sure. ?In either case,
the
supply has to be shut off at the street so spend a few bucks and put in a
brand new ball valve and be safe.

I don't know what fittings you talk about as being "standard" but all
tubing
is and the fitting that go on them are the same size and have been for
decades. ? Sounds like you need some pro help.

Thanks Edwin,

The part that you said the fittings have been the same for decades tells
me that I should be able to buy a valve at HD, a "ball valve" and when I
go down there next week, (160 mile drive) I might have a chance of
replacing it. ?Yes the water at the street has been turned off since
Feb. ?The supply valve was not frozen, and when I turned the wheel it
rotated just as though it were shutting off, but somehow the valve did
not close off the water line and when the pipes thawed out the water
flowed. ?I was not there at the time. ?It is my moms place and she's in
a NH that's why there is nobody there. ?In any case thanks for your
response, it is helpful to know those fittings are the same and should
be for this house too. ?If I can't do this then I will have to seek out
a pro.

Dennis
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for next winter install a thermostat that turns on a lamp, flashing in
window. ask neighbors to call if they see light flash.

allowing a home to freeze repeatedly can do long term damage, and
definetely install ball valve, they are super reliable

vacant homes are at great risk of vandalism, espically arson.

might be a good idea to rent it out free or low cost to a realtive for
security.

if ou tell homeowners home is vacant expect insurance to increase by
5.....

5 times cost.....

if you dont tell insurance and say fire occurs, they will investigate,
and possibly not pay

I was not aware of that and will check it out with insurance co. I will
try to replace with a good quality ball valve, if I can get the old one
off. The lamp idea was suggested by a neighbor who by the way is a
retired insurance agent. We hope it won't be vacant for much longer,
but we don't have a lot of control over that for reasons I can't explain
here. It's in a very tiny town, village to be more specific.

Thanks for your good tips, they are appreciated.

Dennis
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