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How long did he say the work would take to complete? Why are you afraid to answer this simple, yet revealing question, Steve? He didn't say how long it would take him. Probably because he knew I could use a calculator. Steve |
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"dpb" wrote in message ... Doug Miller wrote: In article , "SteveB" wrote: ... ... I consider over $300 a day for very simple work to be unreasonable. I guess he considers working for less than $300 a day to be unreasonable, so he sits at home and makes zero. $300 / 8 hours = $37.50/hour. ... Or, if he does work 2000 hrs/year on average, that's only 75K gross -- certainly not an extravagant standard of living. Wonder what the OP takes home and if that's too much (or maybe his work isn't "very simple")... I'm retired. Life is structured. Living trusts, family trusts, LLCs. If I need or want something, I just go put it on a credit card. The accountant takes care of it. I'm conservative on spending, so the principal keeps working. I avoid things that are wastes of money. As long as I don't get stupid, the principal keeps snowballing. Stupid like paying people $50 an hour to do monkey work. I saved about a thousand on this job by my calculations. I saved $1400 on the drywall by running off the stupid Mexicans someone had doing the work at an inflated price and hiring an experienced rocker who is a retired friend of mine. Paid him his asking price, and it was $1400 less than a contractor. All together, saved a good bit on the project. Enough to do some substantial upgrades, buy a new Nikon, and probably spend two weeks at Pueblo Bonito in Mazatlan. When I do choose to work at what I do, I earn between $50 and $200 an hour. Notice I said earn and not charge? (I paid myself the $50 an hour the grunt wanted to hang wallboard.) If it's real grunt work, I hire real grunts. Steve |
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On Jan 26, 10:02 am, (Doug Miller) wrote:
In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Drywall? Your original list only mentioned these procedures: Hang six interior doors Install baseboard in a 1,000 sf addition Install door knobs and locks Install door trim Is this a different project you're talking about now, with the drywall? Yes, it's a different project. He was whining about here some six months ago. Funny thing about Steve... every time he thinks somebody's trying to screw him, he bitches and moans for weeks. He's also the same guy who, about a year ago, was bragging here about how he screwed Home Depot on a couple of doors. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. Yeah, Doug, wasn't he the guy who was blaming the sheetrock hangers for hanging rock before he had the roof on (even though he was the general?) And how they overcharged him for hanging 23 sheets of rock which magically was enough to do a 2000 sq ft addition? Yep, I bet the folks around there have his number and are charging him accordingly. |
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On Jan 26, 3:10 am, "SteveB" wrote:
"marson" wrote in message On the other had, judging from the tone of your post, they may have smelled that you are a jerk and charged accordingly. That's what I would have done. Jerk? Hardly. Just someone who can smell a rat. I'm a jerk for asking him to come into my home, and do work for money? And then I'm a jerk for not paying a lot of money for a little work? No, you're a jerk because you never had the intention of hiring the guy in the first place. For future reference, life is too short to work with crappy materials. As another, more perspicacious poster mentioned, it's a good idea to use your 'cost' savings to upgrade the materials. Otherwise you're just a hack hacking on your own house. R |
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"marson" wrote in message ... On Jan 26, 10:02 am, (Doug Miller) wrote: In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Drywall? Your original list only mentioned these procedures: Hang six interior doors Install baseboard in a 1,000 sf addition Install door knobs and locks Install door trim Is this a different project you're talking about now, with the drywall? Yes, it's a different project. He was whining about here some six months ago. Funny thing about Steve... every time he thinks somebody's trying to screw him, he bitches and moans for weeks. He's also the same guy who, about a year ago, was bragging here about how he screwed Home Depot on a couple of doors. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. Yeah, Doug, wasn't he the guy who was blaming the sheetrock hangers for hanging rock before he had the roof on (even though he was the general?) And how they overcharged him for hanging 23 sheets of rock which magically was enough to do a 2000 sq ft addition? Yep, I bet the folks around there have his number and are charging him accordingly. Holy ****, if you're going to dredge up history, at least be accurate. Steve |
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In article , "SteveB" wrote:
"marson" wrote in message ... On Jan 26, 10:02 am, (Doug Miller) wrote: In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: Drywall? Your original list only mentioned these procedures: Hang six interior doors Install baseboard in a 1,000 sf addition Install door knobs and locks Install door trim Is this a different project you're talking about now, with the drywall? Yes, it's a different project. He was whining about here some six months ago. Funny thing about Steve... every time he thinks somebody's trying to screw him, he bitches and moans for weeks. He's also the same guy who, about a year ago, was bragging here about how he screwed Home Depot on a couple of doors. Yeah, Doug, wasn't he the guy who was blaming the sheetrock hangers for hanging rock before he had the roof on (even though he was the general?) And how they overcharged him for hanging 23 sheets of rock which magically was enough to do a 2000 sq ft addition? Yep, I bet the folks around there have his number and are charging him accordingly. Holy ****, if you're going to dredge up history, at least be accurate. It's close enough. People here know what you are. It seems your neighbors do, too. |
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"SteveB" wrote in message
... "RicodJour" wrote in message ... On Jan 26, 3:10 am, "SteveB" wrote: "marson" wrote in message On the other had, judging from the tone of your post, they may have smelled that you are a jerk and charged accordingly. That's what I would have done. Jerk? Hardly. Just someone who can smell a rat. I'm a jerk for asking him to come into my home, and do work for money? And then I'm a jerk for not paying a lot of money for a little work? No, you're a jerk because you never had the intention of hiring the guy in the first place. For future reference, life is too short to work with crappy materials. As another, more perspicacious poster mentioned, it's a good idea to use your 'cost' savings to upgrade the materials. Otherwise you're just a hack hacking on your own house. R Thank you for your erroneous assessment of the situation. I would have hired him had he not been so high. And FYI, we did multiple upgrades. And still came in quite a bit under budget. Steve There are two versions of "too high": 1) More than you wanted to pay 2) More than you think he should make. The first is reasonable. It's an opinion. The second is vapor and can safely be ignored. I'm not saying you claimed #2. I'm just pointing out that there are multiple variables. |
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"RicodJour" wrote in message ... On Jan 26, 3:10 am, "SteveB" wrote: "marson" wrote in message On the other had, judging from the tone of your post, they may have smelled that you are a jerk and charged accordingly. That's what I would have done. Jerk? Hardly. Just someone who can smell a rat. I'm a jerk for asking him to come into my home, and do work for money? And then I'm a jerk for not paying a lot of money for a little work? No, you're a jerk because you never had the intention of hiring the guy in the first place. For future reference, life is too short to work with crappy materials. As another, more perspicacious poster mentioned, it's a good idea to use your 'cost' savings to upgrade the materials. Otherwise you're just a hack hacking on your own house. R Thank you for your erroneous assessment of the situation. I would have hired him had he not been so high. And FYI, we did multiple upgrades. And still came in quite a bit under budget. Steve |
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"RicodJour" wrote in message ... On Jan 26, 3:10 am, "SteveB" wrote: "marson" wrote in message On the other had, judging from the tone of your post, they may have smelled that you are a jerk and charged accordingly. That's what I would have done. Jerk? Hardly. Just someone who can smell a rat. I'm a jerk for asking him to come into my home, and do work for money? And then I'm a jerk for not paying a lot of money for a little work? No, you're a jerk because you never had the intention of hiring the guy in the first place. For future reference, life is too short to work with crappy materials. As another, more perspicacious poster mentioned, it's a good idea to use your 'cost' savings to upgrade the materials. Otherwise you're just a hack hacking on your own house. R Why do you hang on my every post? Don't the up or down arrows work on your computer? Are you drug or alcohol impaired, and possess no reading comprehension? First, you prattle on in the newsgroup to drag out the discussion where you need not. Then, you get the sequence and facts screwed up. And what's this with the e mail inviting me to the Interstate rest area men's room? If you want to kick my ass, just meet at the west parking lot of the truck stop. Sheesh. You and marson should get a room. Steve |
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On Jan 25, 7:06 pm, "U.L. Tested" wrote:
I'm not in the construction business, but, even I know there is more to a wall than being straight. Plumb comes to mind. Agreed. And I've seen many built by contractors that were none of the above. Surely there are DIY screwups as well, but the incentive is there when it's your own wall. You sir, are an idiot. You either do not work, or have never held meaningful employment. I just sit on a street corner all day with a 40oz bottle of malt liquor. You entirely miss Kirk's point of being a professional. No matter what industry, it is nearly impossible to get anything done right. Ever. I'm not a contractor, but I smell a wannabe. Nope. Couldn't and wouldn't want to. |
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"The Reverend Natural Light" wrote in message ... On Jan 25, 7:06 pm, "U.L. Tested" wrote: I'm not in the construction business, but, even I know there is more to a wall than being straight. Plumb comes to mind. Agreed. And I've seen many built by contractors that were none of the above. Surely there are DIY screwups as well, but the incentive is there when it's your own wall. And still, with settling, warpage, and other factors even the best can make a wall that is neither straight, plumb, or square. Steve |
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