My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves fall in my
yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I want them gone. Can I
have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that hang over and send him the
bill? I have sent him countless letters asking him to do something but have
got no response. What are my options in the matter does anyone know?

John

"John" wrote in message
. ..
My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves fall in
my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I want them gone.
Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that hang over and send him
the bill? I have sent him countless letters asking him to do something
but have got no response. What are my options in the matter does anyone
know?

John


Although in my town, it's legal for a neighbor to cut overhanging branches,
I would be disproportionately ****ed off if a neighbor did that without
first having a conversation. Have you knocked on your neighbor's door and
asked for his/her opinion?

Also: Why do so many leaves fall on your side? Prevailing wind?

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John" wrote in message
. ..
My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John


Although in my town, it's legal for a neighbor to cut overhanging
branches, I would be disproportionately ****ed off if a neighbor did
that without first having a conversation. Have you knocked on your
neighbor's door and asked for his/her opinion?

Also: Why do so many leaves fall on your side? Prevailing wind?

I am not at this home many months of the year and the fall is the only time
when the leaves fall. I have had a kid take care of the lawn during the
summer but now is off season with nothing to cut. I did have the cleaning
done but now I am the one that is left as my usual helper is gone. I first
decided to drop off a note and keep a copy but after several left in his
mail box and several actually delivered by the US Mail I assume I am being
ignored. I only get ****ed when I am in the middle of raking and think of
dropping the leaves off on his front steps along with some dog crap just to
make my point.

clipped
mail box and several actually delivered by the US Mail I assume I am being
ignored. I only get ****ed when I am in the middle of raking and think of
dropping the leaves off on his front steps along with some dog crap just to
make my point.



It would be a darn strange looking neighborhood if no trees spread
beyond the property line ) If the leaves bug you so much, buy a lot
in the desert.

Norminn wrote:
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mail box and several actually delivered by the US Mail I assume I am
being ignored. I only get ****ed when I am in the middle of raking
and think of dropping the leaves off on his front steps along with
some dog crap just to make my point.



It would be a darn strange looking neighborhood if no trees spread
beyond the property line ) If the leaves bug you so much, buy a lot
in the desert.

Where is all this land you guys seem reoccupied with? It seems that there
are more than a few that would choose to run away and hide rather than face
things straight on. Do you even vote at election time or are you at that
place in the sand?

John wrote:
Norminn wrote:

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mail box and several actually delivered by the US Mail I assume I am
being ignored. I only get ****ed when I am in the middle of raking
and think of dropping the leaves off on his front steps along with
some dog crap just to make my point.




It would be a darn strange looking neighborhood if no trees spread
beyond the property line ) If the leaves bug you so much, buy a lot
in the desert.


Where is all this land you guys seem reoccupied with? It seems that there
are more than a few that would choose to run away and hide rather than face
things straight on. Do you even vote at election time or are you at that
place in the sand?



It isn't realistic to expect a lawn with trees nearby to be free of
leaves, especially at this time of year. And it is a very bad reason to
risk alienating a neighbor. You might be happier either using a
mulching mower with a pickup, or blow leaves onto a tarp and dispose of
them. Leaf blower is easier than raking, but raking is good exercise if
you have a healthy back ) You might also consider changing your
landscape to be leaf friendly - plant a bank of shrubs and just blow the
leaves into the shrub area for mulch. Azaleas love oak leaves. Other
acid loving shrubs, like rhododendron, might be a good choice and it
makes a good place for leaves.

John wrote:

Where is all this land you guys seem reoccupied with? It seems that
there are more than a few that would choose to run away and hide
rather than face things straight on. Do you even vote at election
time or are you at that place in the sand?

Trees shed leaves. Dogs get fleas. Cats kill birds. Grass needs to be mowed.
It gets dark at night. Rain comes down. Children skin their knees. Babies
cry. Coyotes howl. The tide comes in and goes out.

It's the FREAKIN' world!

They are YOUR leaves and HIS tree.

Get used to it.

"John" wrote in message
. ..
Norminn wrote:
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mail box and several actually delivered by the US Mail I assume I am
being ignored. I only get ****ed when I am in the middle of raking
and think of dropping the leaves off on his front steps along with
some dog crap just to make my point.



It would be a darn strange looking neighborhood if no trees spread
beyond the property line ) If the leaves bug you so much, buy a lot
in the desert.

Where is all this land you guys seem reoccupied with? It seems that there are
more than a few that would choose to run away and hide rather than face things
straight on. Do you even vote at election time or are you at that place in the
sand?


It's not just the leaves. When the tree falls on your house, it's your problem,
not his. Your insurance will have to pay for the damage.

Bob

John wrote:

My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves fall in my
yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I want them gone. Can I
have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that hang over and send him the
bill? I have sent him countless letters asking him to do something but have
got no response. What are my options in the matter does anyone know?

John


Hi,
I did it after mentioning to neighbor. He did not seem to bother with
it. Was shading my gazebo real bad.

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:27 -0400, "John"
wrote:

I have to rake them every hour if I want them gone.

You must be busy!

--
Oren

"I wouldn't even be here if my support group hadn't beaten me up."

Oren wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:27 -0400, "John"
wrote:

I have to rake them every hour if I want them gone.

You must be busy!


No, they are never gone. On a good day I could rake continually all day.
Like shoveling snow in a blizzard.

According to what I have heard on this group and my own knowledge.

You own everything from the fence up so you can trim all you want as long it
doesn't harm the tree or maybe make it look stupid. The leaves that fall on
your side are yours, if it was a fruit tree you would own the fruit.

Here's the bad part for you, you can't charge him for the trimming.


"John" wrote in message
. ..
My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves fall in
my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I want them gone.
Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that hang over and send him
the bill? I have sent him countless letters asking him to do something
but have got no response. What are my options in the matter does anyone
know?

John

Cliff Hartle wrote:
According to what I have heard on this group and my own knowledge.

You own everything from the fence up so you can trim all you want as
long it doesn't harm the tree or maybe make it look stupid. The
leaves that fall on your side are yours, if it was a fruit tree you
would own the fruit.
Here's the bad part for you, you can't charge him for the trimming.


Oh they would look pretty bad trimmed. Take my word for it. Not to mention
the job it would be as they have really grown rather tall. I actually feel
sorry for the trees more than anything. Even if I did trim from the fence
straight up the leaves on his side would still end up blowing off and
landing on my lawn. They are actually beautiful trees this time of year. Now
that I think of it there really doesn't seem like there is anything that can
be done short of removing them entirely.



"John" wrote in message
. ..
My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John

In article ,
"John" wrote:

Cliff Hartle wrote:
According to what I have heard on this group and my own knowledge.

You own everything from the fence up so you can trim all you want as
long it doesn't harm the tree or maybe make it look stupid. The
leaves that fall on your side are yours, if it was a fruit tree you
would own the fruit.
Here's the bad part for you, you can't charge him for the trimming.


Oh they would look pretty bad trimmed. Take my word for it. Not to mention
the job it would be as they have really grown rather tall. I actually feel
sorry for the trees more than anything. Even if I did trim from the fence
straight up the leaves on his side would still end up blowing off and
landing on my lawn. They are actually beautiful trees this time of year. Now
that I think of it there really doesn't seem like there is anything that can
be done short of removing them entirely.



Time to make peace with the beauty of fallen leaves, then. Your backyard
doesn't have to look like a putting green to be beautiful, tranquil,
inviting, wonderful, whatever.

Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,
"John" wrote:

Cliff Hartle wrote:
According to what I have heard on this group and my own knowledge.

You own everything from the fence up so you can trim all you want as
long it doesn't harm the tree or maybe make it look stupid. The
leaves that fall on your side are yours, if it was a fruit tree you
would own the fruit.
Here's the bad part for you, you can't charge him for the trimming.


Oh they would look pretty bad trimmed. Take my word for it. Not to
mention the job it would be as they have really grown rather tall. I
actually feel sorry for the trees more than anything. Even if I did
trim from the fence straight up the leaves on his side would still
end up blowing off and landing on my lawn. They are actually
beautiful trees this time of year. Now that I think of it there
really doesn't seem like there is anything that can be done short of
removing them entirely.



Time to make peace with the beauty of fallen leaves, then. Your
backyard doesn't have to look like a putting green to be beautiful,
tranquil, inviting, wonderful, whatever.

I have been the only house on my street that has a littered lawn and
driveway. The cars get covered and when it rains they are very slippery.
They get tracked inside and are an all around nuisance.

"John" wrote

I have been the only house on my street that has a littered lawn and
driveway. The cars get covered and when it rains they are very slippery.
They get tracked inside and are an all around nuisance.

It must suck, to have leaves attack you. I wonder why nature just picks on
your property.

You better just haul all your neighbors in front of Judge Judy, and be done
with it.

It's a miracle, nobody has put you out of your misery yet.

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:27 -0400, John wrote:

My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves fall in my
yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I want them gone. Can I
have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that hang over and send him the
bill? I have sent him countless letters asking him to do something but have
got no response. What are my options in the matter does anyone know?

John

You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because they
"belong" to you.

However, you cannot also charge him if you do not get written or verbal
consent from him. You are improving your own property, why should he have
to pay for it?

--
It's amazing what a man can accomplish when he's not worried about who will
get the credit.


10/20/2007 6:55:09 PM

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:59:48 -0400, Rocinante
wrote:

You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because they
"belong" to you.

True. Just don't kill the tree next door.


--
Oren

"I wouldn't even be here if my support group hadn't beaten me up."

Oren wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:59:48 -0400, Rocinante
wrote:


You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because they
"belong" to you.


True. Just don't kill the tree next door.


--
Oren

"I wouldn't even be here if my support group hadn't beaten me up."

In my area, you trim what is over your own property. I haven't read the
code in a while, but I think there is something that says you cannot
mutilate a tree - cut off all branches on one side, etc. Some
neighborhoods have special historic trees, etc., so be sure that there
isn't some special protection.

Is that the only tree that drops leaves in your yard?

Norminn wrote:
Oren wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:59:48 -0400, Rocinante
wrote:


You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because
they "belong" to you.


True. Just don't kill the tree next door.


--
Oren

"I wouldn't even be here if my support group hadn't beaten me up."

In my area, you trim what is over your own property. I haven't read
the code in a while, but I think there is something that says you
cannot mutilate a tree - cut off all branches on one side, etc. Some
neighborhoods have special historic trees, etc., so be sure that there
isn't some special protection.

Is that the only tree that drops leaves in your yard?

There are 6 large trees that drop leaves. I can remember when they were
very small and the ol' lady never said a word.

wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:36:08 -0700, Oren wrote:

You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because
they "belong" to you.

True. Just don't kill the tree next door.


... so I guess painting the cut ends with Garlon would be wrong ;-)

Maybe I can throw the limbs over the fence. If I start with one at a time I
might get some reaction. If I did that and they are my limbs because they
are over my land then could he have me charged with littering?

"John" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:36:08 -0700, Oren wrote:

You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because
they "belong" to you.

True. Just don't kill the tree next door.


... so I guess painting the cut ends with Garlon would be wrong ;-)

Maybe I can throw the limbs over the fence. If I start with one at a time I
might get some reaction. If I did that and they are my limbs because they are
over my land then could he have me charged with littering?

It is possible.

Bob

Rocinante wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:27 -0400, John wrote:

My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John

You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because they
"belong" to you.

However, you cannot also charge him if you do not get written or
verbal consent from him. You are improving your own property, why
should he have to pay for it?

Because they are a nuisance and the cause of distribution of unwanted
litter. Just like a mud slide that caused dirt or anything else to end up on
my land. Just like a car rolling down a hill I can have it removed and
charge him for the tow. Why not?

John wrote:
Rocinante wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:27 -0400, John wrote:

My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John
You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because they
"belong" to you.

However, you cannot also charge him if you do not get written or
verbal consent from him. You are improving your own property, why
should he have to pay for it?

Because they are a nuisance and the cause of distribution of unwanted
litter. Just like a mud slide that caused dirt or anything else to end up on
my land. Just like a car rolling down a hill I can have it removed and
charge him for the tow. Why not?


Get a grip, dude. They are LEAVES, not radioactive fallout. Don't your
leaves blow into the downwind neighbor's yard? Do you go collect them? I
get a big dose of leaves (and branches) from my upwind neighbors tree
just over the lot line, and his tree screws up my satt signal as well.
Guess what- that is part of living in a subdivision. At least his dog is
mostly quiet.

The only cure to 'neighbor leaves' is to have a lot big enough that it
isn't an issue, because your own stand of trees catches them all.

Let the leaves set until the tree is bare, and just clear them all at
once. The yard will be fine.

aem sends...

aemeijers wrote:
John wrote:
Rocinante wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:27 -0400, John wrote:

My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John
You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because
they "belong" to you.

However, you cannot also charge him if you do not get written or
verbal consent from him. You are improving your own property, why
should he have to pay for it?

Because they are a nuisance and the cause of distribution of unwanted
litter. Just like a mud slide that caused dirt or anything else to
end up on my land. Just like a car rolling down a hill I can have it
removed and charge him for the tow. Why not?


Get a grip, dude. They are LEAVES, not radioactive fallout. Don't your
leaves blow into the downwind neighbor's yard? Do you go collect
them? I get a big dose of leaves (and branches) from my upwind
neighbors tree just over the lot line, and his tree screws up my satt
signal as well. Guess what- that is part of living in a subdivision.
At least his dog is mostly quiet.

The only cure to 'neighbor leaves' is to have a lot big enough that it
isn't an issue, because your own stand of trees catches them all.

Let the leaves set until the tree is bare, and just clear them all at
once. The yard will be fine.

aem sends...

Get a clue 'DUDE.' There are no leaves blowing from my yard onto anyone
else's property. I do not have trees planted close enough to any neighbors
land. The guy doesn't even mow his lawn and the place looks like a slum.
Maybe if you didn't have your head up your ass you might imagine others have
the same problems with this 'DUDE' in that run down barn he lives in. Try
not to use that imagination and assume anything you are not told and you
might not have so much trouble processing thoughts properly.

"John" wrote in message
. ..
aemeijers wrote:
John wrote:
Rocinante wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:27 -0400, John wrote:

My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John
You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because
they "belong" to you.

However, you cannot also charge him if you do not get written or
verbal consent from him. You are improving your own property, why
should he have to pay for it?

Because they are a nuisance and the cause of distribution of unwanted
litter. Just like a mud slide that caused dirt or anything else to
end up on my land. Just like a car rolling down a hill I can have it
removed and charge him for the tow. Why not?


Get a grip, dude. They are LEAVES, not radioactive fallout. Don't your
leaves blow into the downwind neighbor's yard? Do you go collect
them? I get a big dose of leaves (and branches) from my upwind
neighbors tree just over the lot line, and his tree screws up my satt
signal as well. Guess what- that is part of living in a subdivision.
At least his dog is mostly quiet.

The only cure to 'neighbor leaves' is to have a lot big enough that it
isn't an issue, because your own stand of trees catches them all.

Let the leaves set until the tree is bare, and just clear them all at
once. The yard will be fine.

aem sends...

Get a clue 'DUDE.' There are no leaves blowing from my yard onto anyone
else's property. I do not have trees planted close enough to any neighbors
land. The guy doesn't even mow his lawn and the place looks like a slum. Maybe
if you didn't have your head up your ass you might imagine others have the
same problems with this 'DUDE' in that run down barn he lives in. Try not to
use that imagination and assume anything you are not told and you might not
have so much trouble processing thoughts properly.

You are totally clueless. What you are dealing with is reality. Your neighbor
has no legal responsibility for leaves that fall in your yard - by law. You have
no case. Get over it.

If your thoughts were law, every tree in the city would have to be cut down.

Bob

On Oct 20, 8:55 pm, "John" wrote:
Rocinante wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:27 -0400, John wrote:

My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John

You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because they
"belong" to you.

However, you cannot also charge him if you do not get written or
verbal consent from him. You are improving your own property, why
should he have to pay for it?

Because they are a nuisance and the cause of distribution of unwanted
litter. Just like a mud slide that caused dirt or anything else to end up on
my land. Just like a car rolling down a hill I can have it removed and
charge him for the tow. Why not?

One man's litter is another man's soil amendment. Tree roots
scavenge nutrients from deep in the soil. These nutrients
are made available when the leaves fall. Placing them in
bags by the curb for pickup is wasteful. Better to sprinkle a
few gallons of water into the bags, then stack them up
out of the way to decompose into lovely, sweet earthy-smelling
mulch for use in your garden next spring.

If you're going to trim the branches, go ahead, but know
what you're doing, for the sake of your property's appearance
and the health of the trees. Use the three cut method to
keep the branches from tearing off -- on YOUR side of
the trunks. First cut from underneath, about six inches out,
halfway through. Second cut from top, about eight inches
out to remove the bulk of the limb. Third cut is flush to the
growth collar to allow the tree to form a scar which will close
up over the next few years. Do not paint the wound. Leave it
open to weep and clean itself out.

Father Haskell wrote:
On Oct 20, 8:55 pm, "John" wrote:
Rocinante wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:27 -0400, John wrote:

My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John

You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because
they "belong" to you.

However, you cannot also charge him if you do not get written or
verbal consent from him. You are improving your own property, why
should he have to pay for it?

Because they are a nuisance and the cause of distribution of unwanted
litter. Just like a mud slide that caused dirt or anything else to
end up on my land. Just like a car rolling down a hill I can have it
removed and charge him for the tow. Why not?

One man's litter is another man's soil amendment. Tree roots
scavenge nutrients from deep in the soil. These nutrients
are made available when the leaves fall. Placing them in
bags by the curb for pickup is wasteful. Better to sprinkle a
few gallons of water into the bags, then stack them up
out of the way to decompose into lovely, sweet earthy-smelling
mulch for use in your garden next spring.

If you're going to trim the branches, go ahead, but know
what you're doing, for the sake of your property's appearance
and the health of the trees. Use the three cut method to
keep the branches from tearing off -- on YOUR side of
the trunks. First cut from underneath, about six inches out,
halfway through. Second cut from top, about eight inches
out to remove the bulk of the limb. Third cut is flush to the
growth collar to allow the tree to form a scar which will close
up over the next few years. Do not paint the wound. Leave it
open to weep and clean itself out.

I will be hiring someone to do the work and was hoping someone on this
group had a similar problem and had dealt with it before. Thanks for your
response. Good post.

John.

On Oct 20, 10:38?pm, "John" wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
On Oct 20, 8:55 pm, "John" wrote:
Rocinante wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:27 -0400, John wrote:

My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John

You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because
they "belong" to you.

However, you cannot also charge him if you do not get written or
verbal consent from him. You are improving your own property, why
should he have to pay for it?

Because they are a nuisance and the cause of distribution of unwanted
litter. Just like a mud slide that caused dirt or anything else to
end up on my land. Just like a car rolling down a hill I can have it
removed and charge him for the tow. Why not?

One man's litter is another man's soil amendment. Tree roots
scavenge nutrients from deep in the soil. These nutrients
are made available when the leaves fall. Placing them in
bags by the curb for pickup is wasteful. Better to sprinkle a
few gallons of water into the bags, then stack them up
out of the way to decompose into lovely, sweet earthy-smelling
mulch for use in your garden next spring.

If you're going to trim the branches, go ahead, but know
what you're doing, for the sake of your property's appearance
and the health of the trees. Use the three cut method to
keep the branches from tearing off -- on YOUR side of
the trunks. First cut from underneath, about six inches out,
halfway through. Second cut from top, about eight inches
out to remove the bulk of the limb. Third cut is flush to the
growth collar to allow the tree to form a scar which will close
up over the next few years. Do not paint the wound. Leave it
open to weep and clean itself out.

I will be hiring someone to do the work and was hoping someone on this
group had a similar problem and had dealt with it before. Thanks for your
response. Good post.

John.- Hide quoted text -

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a old neighbor of mine lived on the end of the block and had NO TREES
AT ALL!

Unfortunately prevailing winds filled his yard over 6 feet deep of
leaves every fall. You could not see him but just the leaves moving,
he raked and baged all fall.

Long dead now the current owners erected a 7 foot fence no doubt to
keep the leaves on the street.

I dont live there anymore but pass by occasionally and note such
changes.

if the OP trims the trees and makes the neighbor mad he might start a
neighborhood war.

best the OP NEVER does anything wrong EVER!

like play radio or tv loud in evening, have dog, barks or pees in
neighbors yard, the list of possible war material is endless..

"John" wrote in message
...
Rocinante wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:27 -0400, John wrote:

My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John

You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because they
"belong" to you.

However, you cannot also charge him if you do not get written or
verbal consent from him. You are improving your own property, why
should he have to pay for it?

Because they are a nuisance and the cause of distribution of unwanted
litter. Just like a mud slide that caused dirt or anything else to end up
on my land. Just like a car rolling down a hill I can have it removed and
charge him for the tow. Why not?

Because the law is different for trees than for a car that rolls onto your
lawn. It's that simple.

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:55:14 -0400, John wrote:

Rocinante wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:27 -0400, John wrote:

My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John

You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because they
"belong" to you.

However, you cannot also charge him if you do not get written or
verbal consent from him. You are improving your own property, why
should he have to pay for it?

Because they are a nuisance and the cause of distribution of unwanted
litter. Just like a mud slide that caused dirt or anything else to end up on
my land. Just like a car rolling down a hill I can have it removed and
charge him for the tow. Why not?

You missed the point. They are your branches, so you bear the cost of
removing them.

--
"Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they
have to say something."
-- Plato


10/21/2007 4:17:50 PM

Rocinante wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:55:14 -0400, John wrote:

Rocinante wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:27 -0400, John wrote:

My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John

You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because
they "belong" to you.

However, you cannot also charge him if you do not get written or
verbal consent from him. You are improving your own property, why
should he have to pay for it?

Because they are a nuisance and the cause of distribution of unwanted
litter. Just like a mud slide that caused dirt or anything else to
end up on my land. Just like a car rolling down a hill I can have it
removed and charge him for the tow. Why not?

You missed the point. They are your branches, so you bear the cost of
removing them.

I got the point if indeed this is the case in that community. If there were
a branch to fall from that tree onto a car in the driveway and cause damage
maybe they would not be my branches. That is my point. Maybe there is a
cutoff as to how much of a nuisance the issue is. If there is one small tree
or there are 6 there is definitely a big difference. At some point anyone
would get tired of cleaning the yard and maybe just decide to let one basket
full turn into several. Like I stated it is to a point where when wet they
are a hazard.

On Oct 21, 4:34 pm, "John" wrote:
Rocinante wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:55:14 -0400, John wrote:

Rocinante wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:27 -0400, John wrote:

My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John

You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because
they "belong" to you.

However, you cannot also charge him if you do not get written or
verbal consent from him. You are improving your own property, why
should he have to pay for it?

Because they are a nuisance and the cause of distribution of unwanted
litter. Just like a mud slide that caused dirt or anything else to
end up on my land. Just like a car rolling down a hill I can have it
removed and charge him for the tow. Why not?

You missed the point. They are your branches, so you bear the cost of
removing them.

I got the point if indeed this is the case in that community. If there were
a branch to fall from that tree onto a car in the driveway and cause damage
maybe they would not be my branches. That is my point. Maybe there is a
cutoff as to how much of a nuisance the issue is. If there is one small tree
or there are 6 there is definitely a big difference. At some point anyone
would get tired of cleaning the yard and maybe just decide to let one basket
full turn into several. Like I stated it is to a point where when wet they
are a hazard.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If there were a branch to fall from that tree onto a car in the
driveway and cause damage maybe they would not be my branches. That is
my point.

Oh! Oh! Pick me! Pick me! I know the answer!

They are "your" branches in that *your* insurance company would cover
the damage as a not-your-fault incident. At least that's how it was
with me...

I was in my backyard when I started to hear a creek, creek, *crack*. I
looked up to see a very large branch from a neighbor's tree just
beginning its journey downward onto my roof and deck.

This branch (as well as many others) has been hanging over my house
and yard for years. I was never concerned about the leaves, but have
annually trimmed back any branches that could have come in contact
with my roof, and also those that get too large to look nice.

Anyway, the house next door is currently a rental, so I called the
landlord since the branch was still hung up in his tree and also
resting on my roof and deck. I very politely let him know that I was
going to call my insurance company unless he had another suggestion.
He asked if he could come over and take a look before I put in the
claim and I agreed, cuz that's what good neighbors do.

He came over, agreed that it was too big for either of us to handle,
and asked if I had to pay any deductible. I told him I would let him
know and when it was all cleaned up and taken care of, he gave me a
check to cover the deductible for the inconvenience his tree had
caused.

I believe, based on some phone calls I got from my insurance company
afterwards, that my company went after his to recover the costs, but
that's between them, not me and him.

Bottom line: Yes they are your branches to deal with, on the tree or
on your car. ...in most locations that is...

Not sure if anyone has suggested this before...but perhaps you should
contact your local authorities for the rules where these particular
leaves are. ;-)

"John" wrote in message
. ..
Rocinante wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:55:14 -0400, John wrote:

Rocinante wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:27 -0400, John wrote:

My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John

You can cut the branches on your side without his consent because
they "belong" to you.

However, you cannot also charge him if you do not get written or
verbal consent from him. You are improving your own property, why
should he have to pay for it?

Because they are a nuisance and the cause of distribution of unwanted
litter. Just like a mud slide that caused dirt or anything else to
end up on my land. Just like a car rolling down a hill I can have it
removed and charge him for the tow. Why not?

You missed the point. They are your branches, so you bear the cost of
removing them.

I got the point if indeed this is the case in that community. If there
were a branch to fall from that tree onto a car in the driveway and cause
damage maybe they would not be my branches. That is my point. Maybe there
is a cutoff as to how much of a nuisance the issue is. If there is one
small tree or there are 6 there is definitely a big difference. At some
point anyone would get tired of cleaning the yard and maybe just decide to
let one basket full turn into several. Like I stated it is to a point
where when wet they are a hazard.


Maybe maybe maybe maybe.

Tomorrow is Monday. Is it safe to assume you will call the town office,
eliminate maybe, and let us know what you found out?

"John" wrote in message
. ..
My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves fall in
my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I want them gone.
Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that hang over and send him
the bill? I have sent him countless letters asking him to do something
but have got no response. What are my options in the matter does anyone
know?

John

I don't know. Do you want to know what the weather is expected to be like
HERE tomorrow? It's the same about property law.

It all depends on where you live. Go down to city hall and ask. I could
tell you what we do here, and what I would do, but that might not plug into
your equation and where YOU are. It might buy you a boatload of trouble
where you are.

Steve

SteveB wrote:
"John" wrote in message
. ..
My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John

I don't know. Do you want to know what the weather is expected to be
like HERE tomorrow? It's the same about property law.

It all depends on where you live. Go down to city hall and ask. I
could tell you what we do here, and what I would do, but that might
not plug into your equation and where YOU are. It might buy you a
boatload of trouble where you are.

Steve

I thought someone might have had the same problem so I posed this question.
I see it is a bit much for some to handle.

"John" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
"John" wrote in message
. ..
My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John

I don't know. Do you want to know what the weather is expected to be
like HERE tomorrow? It's the same about property law.

It all depends on where you live. Go down to city hall and ask. I
could tell you what we do here, and what I would do, but that might
not plug into your equation and where YOU are. It might buy you a
boatload of trouble where you are.

Steve

I thought someone might have had the same problem so I posed this
question. I see it is a bit much for some to handle.

In your post, you did not give a location, so how could anyone from your
area give you pertinent advice? So, what's your next step? Ask and take
advice on what to do from someone who is a thousand miles away, and whose
advice could end you up in jail or court?

It's not too much to handle. Get some pertinent local advice, either from
your local authorities, or an attorney in your area.

Are you looking for the right and correct thing to do that will solve your
problem and expose you to the least amount of liability, or for the Dirty
Harry approach?

If you're looking for the Dirty Harry approach, just shoot his car and set
fire to his dog. That should get the ball moving.

Steve

SteveB wrote:
"John" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
"John" wrote in message
. ..
My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I
want them gone. Can I have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that
hang over and send him the bill? I have sent him countless letters
asking him to do something but have got no response. What are my
options in the matter does anyone know?

John

I don't know. Do you want to know what the weather is expected to
be like HERE tomorrow? It's the same about property law.

It all depends on where you live. Go down to city hall and ask. I
could tell you what we do here, and what I would do, but that might
not plug into your equation and where YOU are. It might buy you a
boatload of trouble where you are.

Steve

I thought someone might have had the same problem so I posed this
question. I see it is a bit much for some to handle.

In your post, you did not give a location, so how could anyone from
your area give you pertinent advice? So, what's your next step? Ask
and take advice on what to do from someone who is a thousand miles
away, and whose advice could end you up in jail or court?

It's not too much to handle. Get some pertinent local advice, either
from your local authorities, or an attorney in your area.

Are you looking for the right and correct thing to do that will solve
your problem and expose you to the least amount of liability, or for
the Dirty Harry approach?

If you're looking for the Dirty Harry approach, just shoot his car
and set fire to his dog. That should get the ball moving.

Steve

Simply trying to get an idea of what people think on usenet. Nothing more
nothing less. I am sure examples of what others are doing in other parts of
the country have much to do with what can be done anywhere. The idea that
this issue is to much to handle is obvious in a few posts and not to be
unexpected on any usenet group. If I wanted to make a full blown legal issue
out if it I am sure a court would take into consideration what others are
doing in such cases. (I did not cross post to any gun groups)

In article ,
"John" wrote:



Simply trying to get an idea of what people think on usenet. Nothing more
nothing less.

I think those leaves have gotten to you, John. And I think that if you
cut all the overhanging branches three things are going to happen:

1) you're going to have some ugly m.f. trees to look at

2) you're gonna have one angry m.f. of a neighbor

3) the leaf reduction in your yard will be about 5%

If yard maintenance isn't your idea of meditative bliss, why not sell
the place and buy a condominium?

Simply trying to get an idea of what people think on usenet. Nothing more
nothing less. I am sure examples of what others are doing in other parts
of the country have much to do with what can be done anywhere.

Yeah, yeah.

But use some common sense.

First, you MUST know that some communities regulate how and whetehr you can
"trim" trees that are 100% on your own property.

The SMART thing is to get your neighbor to trim his own tree but offer to
"help" him. If that "works" then do nothing else.

Otherwise, proceed with great caution. Tell him (and back up with a
letter) what you intend to do and that you are doing it to protect your
property.

If you kill his tree (or his tree dies after you have done some "trimming"
he may become upset at you. It can cost as much to defend against a silly
suit as a justified suit so before you "trim" you should either have an idea
of the upper limit of any damages he might claim or have a "slam dunk" legal
opinion that your neighbor would have no case if his tree dies and you had
even gone so far as to cut all the roots on your side of the line.

If I were betting, I would say you can do what you want on "your side."
Utility workers take that approach when the install and maintain overhead
and underground utilities.