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Musing about corks, old friends and olive branches
There's much to learn over on the fine forum, Wood Central where so many
good people were driven from here by trolls and flames. Recently Ruth Niles, one of the best, showed pics of her new bottle stopper there. Her stainless steel and O ring stopper is thought to be a distinct improvement over the cork or plated steel stoppers currently available. The shape is pleasing and easy to install and stainless steel seems superior to the cork or plated steel products currently available. This is meant as friendly support of someone who has contributed much to rcw in past years. Yes, I hope this helps Ruth, but It's not an ad and a disclaimer isn't offered. FYI, you might want to take a look at her pics and the thread re 'corked' wine is informative. but come on back to rcw and bring some old friends with you. Some of us like Barry Turner and others enjoy both WC and RCW. IMO, it's a good combo of different type forums for woodturners and I suspect many who abandoned rcw still lurk here occasionally. Ruth, Russ, Lawrence, Lyn, Peter, Bill, Dave, Eduardo, Brad, Pascal and all you other good people; we learned a lot from you. If you do lurk here from time to time, touch base when you can. We aren't trolls and this olive branch, altho bent & warped, isn't spalted.  Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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"Arch" wrote in message ... There's much to learn over on the fine forum, Wood Central where so many good people were driven from here by trolls and flames. Recently Ruth Niles, one of the best, showed pics of her new bottle stopper there. Her stainless steel and O ring stopper is thought to be a distinct improvement over the cork or plated steel stoppers currently available. The shape is pleasing and easy to install and stainless steel seems superior to the cork or plated steel products currently available. This is meant as friendly support of someone who has contributed much to rcw in past years. Yes, I hope this helps Ruth, but It's not an ad and a disclaimer isn't offered. FYI, you might want to take a look at her pics and the thread re 'corked' wine is informative. but come on back to rcw and bring some old friends with you. Some of us like Barry Turner and others enjoy both WC and RCW. IMO, it's a good combo of different type forums for woodturners and I suspect many who abandoned rcw still lurk here occasionally. Ruth, Russ, Lawrence, Lyn, Peter, Bill, Dave, Eduardo, Brad, Pascal and all you other good people; we learned a lot from you. If you do lurk here from time to time, touch base when you can. We aren't trolls and this olive branch, altho bent & warped, isn't spalted. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter =====Yes, I too have sorely missed them, Arch. However, they deserted us after a few stupid trolls. I guess they figured we weren't worth hanging around for! *SOB* Just a bunch of sensitive "artistes!" They're gonna miss the latest developments in LDD technology and your Musings. Pretty high price for a snit!*G* Leif |
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Arch, as yet I have not suffered any ills nor did I suffer from trolls,
but I do not post here very often simply because there are no questions I am capable of answering. I lurk, as you call it, every single day hoping that somewhere someone needs just the information I have locked away in the grey matter! More time is spent on WOW than anywhere else because I just love looking at the beautiful pieces my fellow turners make. I will have to visit this "Wood Central" I have never heard of it before. Regards, Peter Charles Fagg Freshwater, Isle of Wight, United Kingdom. www.petersplatters.co.uk Each can do but little! But if each DID that little, ALL would be done! |
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Maybe I'm just too stubborn to leave. Actually, when I started turning
seriously, I started reading rcw. I learned a lot from a lot of very good turners and "met" some very nice people who had the patience to answer my stupid questions over and over again. I have a lot of gratitude for a lot of folks. Unfortunately for all of us who are still here, a lot of these people did drift away for various reasons. Yes I do lurk over at Wood Central (and comment occasionally), but I still hang around here too. To tell the truth, I miss those guys (and gals) who drifted away. Thanks for noticing I'm still here. And there. Barry PS I'll second that motion. I'd love to see some of our old friends back here. "Arch" wrote in message ... There's much to learn over on the fine forum, Wood Central where so many good people were driven from here by trolls and flames. Recently Ruth Niles, one of the best, showed pics of her new bottle stopper there. Her stainless steel and O ring stopper is thought to be a distinct improvement over the cork or plated steel stoppers currently available. The shape is pleasing and easy to install and stainless steel seems superior to the cork or plated steel products currently available. This is meant as friendly support of someone who has contributed much to rcw in past years. Yes, I hope this helps Ruth, but It's not an ad and a disclaimer isn't offered. FYI, you might want to take a look at her pics and the thread re 'corked' wine is informative. but come on back to rcw and bring some old friends with you. Some of us like Barry Turner and others enjoy both WC and RCW. IMO, it's a good combo of different type forums for woodturners and I suspect many who abandoned rcw still lurk here occasionally. Ruth, Russ, Lawrence, Lyn, Peter, Bill, Dave, Eduardo, Brad, Pascal and all you other good people; we learned a lot from you. If you do lurk here from time to time, touch base when you can. We aren't trolls and this olive branch, altho bent & warped, isn't spalted. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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Right! Sometimes "artists" are fickle. If I ever get to be one, I may be
fickle too. Or worse! (My wife says I already am.) Barry "Leif Thorvaldson" wrote in message ... "Arch" wrote in message ... There's much to learn over on the fine forum, Wood Central where so many good people were driven from here by trolls and flames. Recently Ruth Niles, one of the best, showed pics of her new bottle stopper there. Her stainless steel and O ring stopper is thought to be a distinct improvement over the cork or plated steel stoppers currently available. The shape is pleasing and easy to install and stainless steel seems superior to the cork or plated steel products currently available. This is meant as friendly support of someone who has contributed much to rcw in past years. Yes, I hope this helps Ruth, but It's not an ad and a disclaimer isn't offered. FYI, you might want to take a look at her pics and the thread re 'corked' wine is informative. but come on back to rcw and bring some old friends with you. Some of us like Barry Turner and others enjoy both WC and RCW. IMO, it's a good combo of different type forums for woodturners and I suspect many who abandoned rcw still lurk here occasionally. Ruth, Russ, Lawrence, Lyn, Peter, Bill, Dave, Eduardo, Brad, Pascal and all you other good people; we learned a lot from you. If you do lurk here from time to time, touch base when you can. We aren't trolls and this olive branch, altho bent & warped, isn't spalted. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter =====Yes, I too have sorely missed them, Arch. However, they deserted us after a few stupid trolls. I guess they figured we weren't worth hanging around for! *SOB* Just a bunch of sensitive "artistes!" They're gonna miss the latest developments in LDD technology and your Musings. Pretty high price for a snit!*G* Leif |
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Gee, Arch, thanks so much for the heart-felt feelings! Sure I still
lurk here, how could I just leave and not check to see who is saying what? Leif, snit? snit? Watch it or I'll dump some LDD on your keyboard! I miss you, too. : ) Like the others already said, I learned an awful lot from this group. I started on rec.woodworking in 1990 when someone there told me about rcw and this was the only forum I read and posted on for almost 3 years. I didn't drift because of the trolls, to tell the truth there were times when Al K. was rather entertaining, the spam and x-rated junk was annoying, I just got quiet (Me? quiet?). I do post on woodcentral but not near as much as I used to here.......we really did have a lot of fun, didn't we? I miss that. Thanks for your kind words. Ruth and The General (only now it's his big brother, 26020 VS!) |
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Hello Arch.
I still lurk here too. I check out what is going on almost every day. I just don't post much anymore. But to tell you the truth... I still come here mostly to read what you have to say on the state of the world and woodturning. I love a post that make me think about things. You my friend are the master of such posts. I hope we can meet in person some day, but for now I will have to be content to read your musings. So please keep them coming!! Best wishes, Dave David Peebles Lyons, Ohio Revolutions Woodturning www.bowlturner.com "Arch" wrote in message ... There's much to learn over on the fine forum, Wood Central where so many good people were driven from here by trolls and flames. Recently Ruth Niles, one of the best, showed pics of her new bottle stopper there. Her stainless steel and O ring stopper is thought to be a distinct improvement over the cork or plated steel stoppers currently available. The shape is pleasing and easy to install and stainless steel seems superior to the cork or plated steel products currently available. This is meant as friendly support of someone who has contributed much to rcw in past years. Yes, I hope this helps Ruth, but It's not an ad and a disclaimer isn't offered. FYI, you might want to take a look at her pics and the thread re 'corked' wine is informative. but come on back to rcw and bring some old friends with you. Some of us like Barry Turner and others enjoy both WC and RCW. IMO, it's a good combo of different type forums for woodturners and I suspect many who abandoned rcw still lurk here occasionally. Ruth, Russ, Lawrence, Lyn, Peter, Bill, Dave, Eduardo, Brad, Pascal and all you other good people; we learned a lot from you. If you do lurk here from time to time, touch base when you can. We aren't trolls and this olive branch, altho bent & warped, isn't spalted. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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wrote in message ups.com... Gee, Arch, thanks so much for the heart-felt feelings! Sure I still lurk here, how could I just leave and not check to see who is saying what? Leif, snit? snit? Watch it or I'll dump some LDD on your keyboard! I miss you, too. : ) Like the others already said, I learned an awful lot from this group. I started on rec.woodworking in 1990 when someone there told me about rcw and this was the only forum I read and posted on for almost 3 years. I didn't drift because of the trolls, to tell the truth there were times when Al K. was rather entertaining, the spam and x-rated junk was annoying, I just got quiet (Me? quiet?). I do post on woodcentral but not near as much as I used to here.......we really did have a lot of fun, didn't we? I miss that. Thanks for your kind words. Ruth and The General (only now it's his big brother, 26020 VS!) ================================ Ruth, Glad to know we haven't lost you completely! Do speak up from time to time so we don't miss you so much. I see you have a newer, bigger toy; is the monotube still in use for anything? Ken Moon Webberville, TX. |
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"Ken Moon" wrote in message ink.net... wrote in message ups.com... Gee, Arch, thanks so much for the heart-felt feelings! Sure I still lurk here, how could I just leave and not check to see who is saying what? Leif, snit? snit? Watch it or I'll dump some LDD on your keyboard! I miss you, too. : ) Like the others already said, I learned an awful lot from this group. I started on rec.woodworking in 1990 when someone there told me about rcw and this was the only forum I read and posted on for almost 3 years. I didn't drift because of the trolls, to tell the truth there were times when Al K. was rather entertaining, the spam and x-rated junk was annoying, I just got quiet (Me? quiet?). I do post on woodcentral but not near as much as I used to here.......we really did have a lot of fun, didn't we? I miss that. Thanks for your kind words. Ruth and The General (only now it's his big brother, 26020 VS!) ================================ Ruth, Glad to know we haven't lost you completely! Do speak up from time to time so we don't miss you so much. I see you have a newer, bigger toy; is the monotube still in use for anything? Ken Moon Webberville, TX. =====Ruth is totally fickle when it comes to her former lathes, she abandoned the monotube after years of faithful service, and I am sure the General is suffering a similar ignominious fate after a few years of dedicated service to her cause!8^( Leif |
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I see you have a newer, bigger toy; is the monotube still in use for anything? Ken Moon Webberville, TX. ************************* Hi Ken, I sold the monotube but do miss it. Pay no attention to Leif! I did love that machine and sold the General (which gave me nothing but grief not faithful service) to the guy who bought my place. I told him all the faults, he only wants to turn spindles and it's fine for that. Ruth www.torne-lignum.com |
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Hey Owen,
I read your posts just about all the time! Yes, sadly I did sell my place. I do NOT miss the house at all; 150 yr. old farm house, no insulation, no elec. on 2nd floor, etc. but I really miss my barn, shop, garden, cats and chickens. My shop is temporarily set up in a garage behind my one son's transmission business. It's ok but it's not my barn! Ruth www.torne-lignum.com |
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Amen to that, Arch. While I started to read WoodCentral when the
trolls hit, I stuck here too. There have been way too many good discussion started and ffriendships made here to abondon ship. I do have to admit, however, that my participation on any and all discussion groups has significantly tailed off in the last couple of years. There is too much content and too few hours to get through it all. A don't look at the AAW or Wood magazine discussions. I don't view the AAW photo page either. I really dislike the multiple posts across many groups. If I got to pick, we would only need r.c.w for discussions and WOW for photos. All the rest are redundant. Unfortunately, I don't think this proliferation of groups will be reversed. Joe Fleming - San Diego |
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Owen, I had electricity downstairs and I only used the upstairs to
sleep and I knew where the bed was! : ) Question: how do you reply to a post and delete all the previous posts or at least be able to take only what you wish to respond to and have that appear? Ruth |
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wrote in message oups.com... Owen, I had electricity downstairs and I only used the upstairs to sleep and I knew where the bed was! : ) Question: how do you reply to a post and delete all the previous posts or at least be able to take only what you wish to respond to and have that appear? Looks like you're posting through Google rather than using a reader, so I would suggest the normal Windows functions of highlight, cut and paste. There's a Mac equivalent, but I'm out of the classroom for so long I've forgotten. |
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In article , "George"
wrote: Looks like you're posting through Google rather than using a reader, so I would suggest the normal Windows functions of highlight, cut and paste. There's a Mac equivalent, but I'm out of the classroom for so long I've forgotten. George it is the same for a Mac. Remember Windows was copied from the Mac Graphic User Interface (GUI) and so most of the Keyboard functions are exactly the same. Just that Macs do it better :-) -- Remove no & spam to email meet me at: http://peterhyde.bravehost.com/ |
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Peter Hyde wrote:
In article , "George" wrote: Looks like you're posting through Google rather than using a reader, so I would suggest the normal Windows functions of highlight, cut and paste. There's a Mac equivalent, but I'm out of the classroom for so long I've forgotten. George it is the same for a Mac. Remember Windows was copied from the Mac Graphic User Interface (GUI) Which was copied from Xerox! No wonder Windows is sooo bad, it's a copy of a copy.  )and so most of the Keyboard functions are exactly the same. Just that Macs do it better :-) |
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"Lobby Dosser" wrote in message news:_jmue.1963$tA.1849@trnddc06... Peter Hyde wrote: In article , "George" wrote: Looks like you're posting through Google rather than using a reader, so I would suggest the normal Windows functions of highlight, cut and paste. There's a Mac equivalent, but I'm out of the classroom for so long I've forgotten. George it is the same for a Mac. Remember Windows was copied from the Mac Graphic User Interface (GUI) Which was copied from Xerox! No wonder Windows is sooo bad, it's a copy of a copy. )and so most of the Keyboard functions are exactly the same. Just that Macs do it better :-) I heard it all came from Geos. It ain't a computer unless the first thing on the screen is A:\ |
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Yes, I'm going through google (as George noted), is there a better way to access the group? I read you response, hit "reply" at the bottom of your post, then I get a small box to type in. I highlight, cut, hit delete, hit backspace, nothing works outside this little box. I'd bet there's a setting for how I'm reading the group so I get it in a different format, have searched everywhere, can't find it. Any suggestions, anyone? I really don't like it when a complete post gets re-posted in a response. |
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wrote in message ups.com... Yes, I'm going through google (as George noted), is there a better way to access the group? I read you response, hit "reply" at the bottom of your post, then I get a small box to type in. I highlight, cut, hit delete, hit backspace, nothing works outside this little box. I'd bet there's a setting for how I'm reading the group so I get it in a different format, have searched everywhere, can't find it. Any suggestions, anyone? I really don't like it when a complete post gets re-posted in a response. Pay-to-play types of places, and others like http://www.usenet-replayer.com/index.html of course, but check first with your Internet Service Provider to see if they provide access to usenet. If your Yahoo e-mail means Yahoo is your ISP, I believe they dropped usenet access. If not Yahoo, try to use your newsreader to set up an account with the name: news.(your ISP).net,com, etc. Example frontiernet is your ISP : news.frontiernet.net There's even a freebie over in Germany that some folks use, perhaps others can come up with it. |
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"George" wrote in message ... Pay-to-play types of places, and others like http://www.usenet-replayer.com/index.html of course, but check first with your Internet Service Provider to see if they provide access to usenet. If your Yahoo e-mail means Yahoo is your ISP, I believe they dropped usenet access. If not Yahoo, try to use your newsreader to set up an account with the name: news.(your ISP).net,com, etc. Example frontiernet is your ISP : news.frontiernet.net There's even a freebie over in Germany that some folks use, perhaps others can come up with it. George, That freebie place in Germany was news.individual.net, but they went over to a pay system about a month ago. There is a freebie place in Italy, news.aioe.org, but they don't seem to be as reliable. I have trouble with downloads from them. Martin |
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Owen, I have WindowsXP and I'm on cable and use Internet Explorer.
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"Prometheus" wrote in message ... Owen, I have WindowsXP and I'm on cable and use Internet Explorer. Does that mean anything to you? Kindasorta. I'm not on cable so don't really know how that service works in any detail. Here's a link to Comcast's (our local cable service) FAQs on newsgroups. Perhaps your provider has a similar page so that you can find out if they offer newsgroup access and how to configure a newsreader. http://www.comcast.com/Support/Corp1/FAQ/Faq2_200_0.html Folks on Windows seem to generally use Outlook Express. Being on a Mac, I can't offer any suggestions for specific newsgroup readers for you. I assume they all work similarly though. I'm guessing your heart is in the right place, but Outlook Express is less than half a step better than using Google. I use Forte Agent, which has a free version as well as the full version availible for download at http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php, though others use Newsrover, Xnews and similar programs. Any of them will work much better than Outlook. All of which scores points, but doesn't get Ruth closer. With cable, Ruth, your provider is the cable company, so call them and ask if they have access to "Usenet" or "news groups" available on their server. Or you could take the shot in the dark I mentioned earlier. Say it's Comcast, and you're using what you have. Sequence goes Tools / Accounts / News / Add - then follow the "wizard," server is "news.Comcast.net." If you don't have them, what chip or revision or reader is moot. The best reader is the one _you_ know how to use. |
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