On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:03:47 -0600, "Bob"
wrote:

That's not a good subject - sorry.
I just purchased a Cub Cadet mower/tractor. The advertisements say
as does the manual that came with it, that it has a 23 HP Kawsaki
engine. I brought the mower home and began to just run it around to
get used to the steering. It is 50 inch mower with the two handles
instead of a steering wheel. Then I tried mowing a little. Going
to take some getting used.

Anyway, when I put it in the garage, I noticed that the engine was
NOT a Kawasaki, but a 23 HP Kohler brand.

I have nothing against Kohler, my 11 year old mower has a Kohler and
it has served me well and I like Kohler. But, I think the Kawaski
engine is probably a better engine. In addition, the manual states
that it has a gasoline shut off, which this one does not have.

Where I want opinions is, should I just blow this off, or should I
try to find a way to contact Cub Cadet and complain and see what
they will do? I paid $4,000 for the darn thing (UGH!!!) and I sure
would rather have had the engine I thought I'd get.

Hey, give me your opinions because right now, I am a bit emotional
about the darn thing.

Thanks, Bob-tx


Would your emotions change, if you got what you paid for?

--
Oren

"If things get any worse, I'll have to ask you to stop helping me."

Bob wrote:
That's not a good subject - sorry.
I just purchased a Cub Cadet mower/tractor. The advertisements say
as does the manual that came with it, that it has a 23 HP Kawsaki
engine. I brought the mower home and began to just run it around to
get used to the steering. It is 50 inch mower with the two handles
instead of a steering wheel. Then I tried mowing a little. Going
to take some getting used.

Anyway, when I put it in the garage, I noticed that the engine was
NOT a Kawasaki, but a 23 HP Kohler brand.

I have nothing against Kohler, my 11 year old mower has a Kohler and
it has served me well and I like Kohler. But, I think the Kawaski
engine is probably a better engine. In addition, the manual states
that it has a gasoline shut off, which this one does not have.

Where I want opinions is, should I just blow this off, or should I
try to find a way to contact Cub Cadet and complain and see what
they will do? I paid $4,000 for the darn thing (UGH!!!) and I sure
would rather have had the engine I thought I'd get.

Hey, give me your opinions because right now, I am a bit emotional
about the darn thing.

Thanks, Bob-tx


Where did you buy it?

That's not a good subject - sorry.
I just purchased a Cub Cadet mower/tractor. The advertisements say
as does the manual that came with it, that it has a 23 HP Kawsaki
engine. I brought the mower home and began to just run it around to
get used to the steering. It is 50 inch mower with the two handles
instead of a steering wheel. Then I tried mowing a little. Going
to take some getting used.

Anyway, when I put it in the garage, I noticed that the engine was
NOT a Kawasaki, but a 23 HP Kohler brand.

I have nothing against Kohler, my 11 year old mower has a Kohler and
it has served me well and I like Kohler. But, I think the Kawaski
engine is probably a better engine. In addition, the manual states
that it has a gasoline shut off, which this one does not have.

Where I want opinions is, should I just blow this off, or should I
try to find a way to contact Cub Cadet and complain and see what
they will do? I paid $4,000 for the darn thing (UGH!!!) and I sure
would rather have had the engine I thought I'd get.

Hey, give me your opinions because right now, I am a bit emotional
about the darn thing.

Thanks, Bob-tx

Bob wrote:
That's not a good subject - sorry.
I just purchased a Cub Cadet mower/tractor. The advertisements say
as does the manual that came with it, that it has a 23 HP Kawsaki
engine. I brought the mower home and began to just run it around to
get used to the steering. It is 50 inch mower with the two handles
instead of a steering wheel. Then I tried mowing a little. Going
to take some getting used.

Anyway, when I put it in the garage, I noticed that the engine was
NOT a Kawasaki, but a 23 HP Kohler brand.

I have nothing against Kohler, my 11 year old mower has a Kohler and
it has served me well and I like Kohler. But, I think the Kawaski
engine is probably a better engine. In addition, the manual states
that it has a gasoline shut off, which this one does not have.

Where I want opinions is, should I just blow this off, or should I
try to find a way to contact Cub Cadet and complain and see what
they will do? I paid $4,000 for the darn thing (UGH!!!) and I sure
would rather have had the engine I thought I'd get.

Hey, give me your opinions because right now, I am a bit emotional
about the darn thing.

Kinda' curious how you could have gotten through the selection and
delivery process w/o discovering it wasn't what you thought, but hey...

I'd contact the dealership where you bought it first if you really care
that much...

--

On 28 Sep, 18:03, "Bob" wrote:
That's not a good subject - sorry.
I just purchased a Cub Cadet mower/tractor. The advertisements say
as does the manual that came with it, that it has a 23 HP Kawsaki
engine. I brought the mower home and began to just run it around to
get used to the steering. It is 50 inch mower with the two handles
instead of a steering wheel. Then I tried mowing a little. Going
to take some getting used.

Anyway, when I put it in the garage, I noticed that the engine was
NOT a Kawasaki, but a 23 HP Kohler brand.

I have nothing against Kohler, my 11 year old mower has a Kohler and
it has served me well and I like Kohler. But, I think the Kawaski
engine is probably a better engine. In addition, the manual states
that it has a gasoline shut off, which this one does not have.

Where I want opinions is, should I just blow this off, or should I
try to find a way to contact Cub Cadet and complain and see what
they will do? I paid $4,000 for the darn thing (UGH!!!) and I sure
would rather have had the engine I thought I'd get.

Hey, give me your opinions because right now, I am a bit emotional
about the darn thing.

Thanks, Bob-tx

I got a question...if you knew it wasn't a good subject line, why
didn't you just change it instead of telling us it sucked and
apologizing? Just curious...

on 9/28/2007 6:03 PM Bob said the following:
That's not a good subject - sorry.
I just purchased a Cub Cadet mower/tractor. The advertisements say
as does the manual that came with it, that it has a 23 HP Kawsaki
engine. I brought the mower home and began to just run it around to
get used to the steering. It is 50 inch mower with the two handles
instead of a steering wheel. Then I tried mowing a little. Going
to take some getting used.

Anyway, when I put it in the garage, I noticed that the engine was
NOT a Kawasaki, but a 23 HP Kohler brand.

I have nothing against Kohler, my 11 year old mower has a Kohler and
it has served me well and I like Kohler. But, I think the Kawaski
engine is probably a better engine. In addition, the manual states
that it has a gasoline shut off, which this one does not have.

Where I want opinions is, should I just blow this off, or should I
try to find a way to contact Cub Cadet and complain and see what
they will do? I paid $4,000 for the darn thing (UGH!!!) and I sure
would rather have had the engine I thought I'd get.

Hey, give me your opinions because right now, I am a bit emotional
about the darn thing.

Thanks, Bob-tx




Does the manual mention both engines? Perhaps the mower comes with
different engines and the manual addresses both engines.
That's why I buy cheap tractors, they all come with B&Ss, so there's no
confusion. I run them for 10 years and then buy another with newer features.


--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

If you purchased the ztr Tractor as opposed to the ztr Rider then it
is suppose to have the Kohler.

http://www.cubcadet.com/webapp/wcs/s...16200_16200_-1

http://www.cubcadet.com/webapp/wcs/s...16200_16200_-1

They gave you the wrong manual. Is this your mower?
http://www.cubcadet.com/webapp/wcs/s...10237_33817_-1

On Sep 28, 7:19 pm, willshak wrote:
on 9/28/2007 6:03 PM Bob said the following:





That's not a good subject - sorry.
I just purchased a Cub Cadet mower/tractor. The advertisements say
as does the manual that came with it, that it has a 23 HP Kawsaki
engine. I brought the mower home and began to just run it around to
get used to the steering. It is 50 inch mower with the two handles
instead of a steering wheel. Then I tried mowing a little. Going
to take some getting used.

Anyway, when I put it in the garage, I noticed that the engine was
NOT a Kawasaki, but a 23 HP Kohler brand.

I have nothing against Kohler, my 11 year old mower has a Kohler and
it has served me well and I like Kohler. But, I think the Kawaski
engine is probably a better engine. In addition, the manual states
that it has a gasoline shut off, which this one does not have.

Where I want opinions is, should I just blow this off, or should I
try to find a way to contact Cub Cadet and complain and see what
they will do? I paid $4,000 for the darn thing (UGH!!!) and I sure
would rather have had the engine I thought I'd get.

Hey, give me your opinions because right now, I am a bit emotional
about the darn thing.

Thanks, Bob-tx

Does the manual mention both engines? Perhaps the mower comes with
different engines and the manual addresses both engines.
That's why I buy cheap tractors, they all come with B&Ss, so there's no
confusion. I run them for 10 years and then buy another with newer features.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I know some John Deere have Kawasaki engines, You should get what you
were told you purhased or get a Big rebate.

"Lou" wrote in message
...
Bob wrote:
That's not a good subject - sorry.
I just purchased a Cub Cadet mower/tractor. The advertisements
say as does the manual that came with it, that it has a 23 HP
Kawsaki engine. I brought the mower home and began to just run
it around to get used to the steering. It is 50 inch mower with
the two handles instead of a steering wheel. Then I tried mowing
a little. Going to take some getting used.

Anyway, when I put it in the garage, I noticed that the engine
was NOT a Kawasaki, but a 23 HP Kohler brand.

I have nothing against Kohler, my 11 year old mower has a Kohler
and it has served me well and I like Kohler. But, I think the
Kawaski engine is probably a better engine. In addition, the
manual states that it has a gasoline shut off, which this one
does not have.

Where I want opinions is, should I just blow this off, or should
I try to find a way to contact Cub Cadet and complain and see
what they will do? I paid $4,000 for the darn thing (UGH!!!)
and I sure would rather have had the engine I thought I'd get.

Hey, give me your opinions because right now, I am a bit
emotional about the darn thing.

Thanks, Bob-tx
Where did you buy it?

Tractor Store Company

"dpb" wrote in message ...
Bob wrote:
That's not a good subject - sorry.
I just purchased a Cub Cadet mower/tractor. The advertisements
say as does the manual that came with it, that it has a 23 HP
Kawsaki engine. I brought the mower home and began to just run
it around to get used to the steering. It is 50 inch mower with
the two handles instead of a steering wheel. Then I tried mowing
a little. Going to take some getting used.

Anyway, when I put it in the garage, I noticed that the engine
was NOT a Kawasaki, but a 23 HP Kohler brand.

I have nothing against Kohler, my 11 year old mower has a Kohler
and it has served me well and I like Kohler. But, I think the
Kawaski engine is probably a better engine. In addition, the
manual states that it has a gasoline shut off, which this one
does not have.

Where I want opinions is, should I just blow this off, or should
I try to find a way to contact Cub Cadet and complain and see
what they will do? I paid $4,000 for the darn thing (UGH!!!)
and I sure would rather have had the engine I thought I'd get.

Hey, give me your opinions because right now, I am a bit
emotional about the darn thing.

Kinda' curious how you could have gotten through the selection and
delivery process w/o discovering it wasn't what you thought, but
hey...

I'd contact the dealership where you bought it first if you really
care that much...

That's a good question - one that I asked myself & don't have an
answer. The engine is in plain sight, no excuse.

wrote in message
...
If you purchased the ztr Tractor as opposed to the ztr Rider then
it
is suppose to have the Kohler.

http://www.cubcadet.com/webapp/wcs/s...16200_16200_-1

http://www.cubcadet.com/webapp/wcs/s...16200_16200_-1

Thanks, good site. I have the Z-Force 50, and it does say it has 23
HP Kohler, but that is not what the accompanying manual says.
Probably an over site in printing the manual. Here is the one I
bought. The same model in the 60 inch has the Kawaski engine.

http://www.cubcadet.com/webapp/wcs/s...10237_33817_-1

Thanks, Bob-tx

wrote in message
...
They gave you the wrong manual. Is this your mower?
http://www.cubcadet.com/webapp/wcs/s...10237_33817_-1
Yeah, that's it, and it does say Kohler. No, it is the right
manual. I expect they just lifted info' from the 60 inch model and
overlooked that error.
Bob-tx

I agree with the other poster - the Kohler engine is probably the better
one.


"Bob" wrote in message
...
That's not a good subject - sorry.
I just purchased a Cub Cadet mower/tractor. The advertisements say as
does the manual that came with it, that it has a 23 HP Kawsaki engine. I
brought the mower home and began to just run it around to get used to the
steering. It is 50 inch mower with the two handles instead of a steering
wheel. Then I tried mowing a little. Going to take some getting used.

Anyway, when I put it in the garage, I noticed that the engine was NOT a
Kawasaki, but a 23 HP Kohler brand.

I have nothing against Kohler, my 11 year old mower has a Kohler and it
has served me well and I like Kohler. But, I think the Kawaski engine is
probably a better engine. In addition, the manual states that it has a
gasoline shut off, which this one does not have.

Where I want opinions is, should I just blow this off, or should I try to
find a way to contact Cub Cadet and complain and see what they will do?
I paid $4,000 for the darn thing (UGH!!!) and I sure would rather have had
the engine I thought I'd get.

Hey, give me your opinions because right now, I am a bit emotional about
the darn thing.

Thanks, Bob-tx

. Is this your mower?
http://www.cubcadet.com/webapp/wcs/s...10237_33817_-1
Yeah, that's it, and it does say Kohler. No, it is the right
manual. I expect they just lifted info' from the 60 inch model and
overlooked that error.
Bob-tx

If this is the right mower are you aware that the manufacturers
suggested retail price is $3999? You said you paid $4000. I would
expect that at a retail outlet $4000 would have gotten you one of
these 60" models................

http://www.cubcadet.com/webapp/wcs/s...16200_16200_-1