I've worked in three different cabinet shops in the past ten years and
recently decided I would like to start my own home woodshop. I
started doing research on all the tools and equipment I would need to
get started and tried to come up with a number of around how much it
would cost. Needless to say I was overwhelmed by the numbers I was
coming up with and I still wasn't sure I would be getting quality
equipment for what I would be paying.

I started to dig deeper on how to choose what was quality equipment
and how to tell. Again I started to get overwhelmed. There was no
one site I could go to that gave a good explanation of all the
different stuff to look for before I bought. I had stacks of books
from the library and was scouring the web for info.

I thought wouldn't it be great if there was one place I could look to
find the information I needed. So for others like myself I decided to
set up a site that would do just that.

In the past few months I have been working on the site trying to
explain the information as clearly and easily as possible. The
problem is what may make sense to me may not to others. What I'm
asking you all for is to act as my editors.

My site (as of right now) is small and just an informational site.
There are no advertisements and I am not trying to sell anything, so
please don't be worried that is some sorta scheme.

All I'm asking for is your opinion on the information that I have
given so far. If you think it is good or bad. No matter which please
don't just tell me "oh this site sucks/ is good" but would like to
hear why and how you think I can make it better. What else should I
add or get rid of? Please add your comments on the forum or send me a
message through the comments page on the site.

The site is www.woodworking-machinery-and-tools.com .

Thank you in advance for your time and opinions

Jeremy

Skey_000 wrote:
I've worked in three different cabinet shops in the past ten years and
recently decided I would like to start my own home woodshop. I
started doing research on all the tools and equipment I would need to
get started and tried to come up with a number of around how much it
would cost. Needless to say I was overwhelmed by the numbers I was
coming up with and I still wasn't sure I would be getting quality
equipment for what I would be paying.

I started to dig deeper on how to choose what was quality equipment
and how to tell. Again I started to get overwhelmed. There was no
one site I could go to that gave a good explanation of all the
different stuff to look for before I bought. I had stacks of books
from the library and was scouring the web for info.

A recent Fine Woodworking had an article on outfitting a shop for
$5000 (they lied, it was actually something like $5250). It covered a
good, basic, wide selection of tools, both power (portable and
stationary) and hand tools. Check it out from your local library.
Good place to start as any.

Taunton also has some very good books. See if you can locate their
one on setting up shop.
http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki...ges/070887.asp
They cover budget and shop layout (as important as, and inseparable
from, tool selection).

R

On Mar 24, 2:19 pm, "Skey_000" wrote:
I've worked in three different cabinet shops in the past ten years and
recently decided I would like to start my own home woodshop. I
started doing research on all the tools and equipment I would need to
get started and tried to come up with a number of around how much it
would cost. Needless to say I was overwhelmed by the numbers I was
coming up with and I still wasn't sure I would be getting quality
equipment for what I would be paying.

I started to dig deeper on how to choose what was quality equipment
and how to tell. Again I started to get overwhelmed. There was no
one site I could go to that gave a good explanation of all the
different stuff to look for before I bought. I had stacks of books
from the library and was scouring the web for info.

I thought wouldn't it be great if there was one place I could look to
find the information I needed. So for others like myself I decided to
set up a site that would do just that.

In the past few months I have been working on the site trying to
explain the information as clearly and easily as possible. The
problem is what may make sense to me may not to others. What I'm
asking you all for is to act as my editors.

My site (as of right now) is small and just an informational site.
There are no advertisements and I am not trying to sell anything, so
please don't be worried that is some sorta scheme.

All I'm asking for is your opinion on the information that I have
given so far. If you think it is good or bad. No matter which please
don't just tell me "oh this site sucks/ is good" but would like to
hear why and how you think I can make it better. What else should I
add or get rid of? Please add your comments on the forum or send me a
message through the comments page on the site.

The site iswww.woodworking-machinery-and-tools.com.

Thank you in advance for your time and opinions

Jeremy

Jeremy,
IMO you've picked a topic that will keep you very busy. I suspect its
a full time job for more than one person.Good luck.
Joe G

Skey_000 wrote:

The site is www.woodworking-machinery-and-tools.com .

Thank you in advance for your time and opinions

Jeremy


Jeremy ... basically praise ... with two caveats.

1) get someone with a solid grasp of the language to proofread for you.
I proofread my own work extensively. But far too often I 'read' what I
'meant' to write ... but not the words that actually ended up on the
screen. It is HARD to read your own writing objectively but on the
Milling Machines page (
http://www.woodworking-machinery-and...-Machines.html ) I
noticed a grammatical error in nearly every sentence. Most of the errors
are simple (missing punctuation, subject-verb disagreement and so on)
but their inclusion is distracting.

If you must proofread your own work, set it aside for a time. Then, when
you return a week or so later, it will be somewhat fresh ... and you
will be less inclined to confuse what you intended with your actual deeds.

2) The photos. These photos are very nice but, unless you are a
professional photograph, are probably not be original with you. Most
likely they are under copyright by someone else. You never gave
attribution to their source (hint, use tables and use the second line of
the table to show attribution
table
tr
tdsomething.jpeg/td
/tr
tr
tdattribution for the pic/td
/tr
/table

or as

table
tr
tdcaptionwhere I got this pic
from/captionalign=topsomething.jpeg/align /td
/tr
/table

There are, undoubtedly, other ways of accomplishing the same goal. The
bottom line is to avoid assertions of copyright infringement. At the
moment, you are probably guilty as all get-out. Most especially, don't
forget to use the 'alt' attribute in the link to the image.

You left it empty he
img border="0"
src="http://www.woodworking-machinery-and-tools.com/images/Jointer.jpg"
align="Left" WIDTH="300" HEIGHT="300" alt=""


There are other techniques ... choose one (or more) and avoid legal hot
water.

I definitely like your writing style ... it's easier to read than my
own. And I definitely like your light & airy color / design scheme.

But you need to take a peek at this site:
http://www.bedfordstmartins.com/online/citex.html
in order to steer clear of the shoals.

Bill




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Skey_000 wrote:
I've worked in three different cabinet shops in the past ten years and
recently decided I would like to start my own home woodshop. I
started doing research on all the tools and equipment I would need to
get started and tried to come up with a number of around how much it
would cost. Needless to say I was overwhelmed by the numbers I was
coming up with and I still wasn't sure I would be getting quality
equipment for what I would be paying.

I started to dig deeper on how to choose what was quality equipment
and how to tell. Again I started to get overwhelmed. There was no
one site I could go to that gave a good explanation of all the
different stuff to look for before I bought. I had stacks of books
from the library and was scouring the web for info.

I thought wouldn't it be great if there was one place I could look to
find the information I needed. So for others like myself I decided to
set up a site that would do just that.

In the past few months I have been working on the site trying to
explain the information as clearly and easily as possible. The
problem is what may make sense to me may not to others. What I'm
asking you all for is to act as my editors.

My site (as of right now) is small and just an informational site.
There are no advertisements and I am not trying to sell anything, so
please don't be worried that is some sorta scheme.

All I'm asking for is your opinion on the information that I have
given so far. If you think it is good or bad. No matter which please
don't just tell me "oh this site sucks/ is good" but would like to
hear why and how you think I can make it better. What else should I
add or get rid of? Please add your comments on the forum or send me a
message through the comments page on the site.

The site is www.woodworking-machinery-and-tools.com .

Thank you in advance for your time and opinions

Jeremy


Hi Jeremy,

Overall, I really like the idea of this
site.

First thing I noticed is that on
measuring and marking tools the pictures
look really good. Professional. If
you've done what I'd do, and copied
them from a commercial site, you may
want to make sure the site has given
permission. Sometimes copywrite gets in
the way here. That may not be an issue
if you're advertising the site that you
got the pics from.

I like the idea of how the categories
are initially laid out: broad overview,
and then drilling down into details.

The hand tools section seems a bit
small. You've only got one type of
chisel pictured, no hand planes and no
hand sharpening methods. Lots of people
love power tools, but there are many of
us who have a mix of power/hand tools.

Similarly in power tools. I think I'd
add grinders. Routers. Portable drills.
Jig saw, scroll saw? Nothing on chip
and/or dust removal, and that may easily
be taken care of by linking to the Pentz
site.

As I said from the outset, I think the
idea of the site is tremendous. However,
to truly serve who is going to be going
to the site, I really think the number
and types of tools needs to be expanded
upon.

Tanus

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On 24 Mar 2007 11:19:59 -0700, "Skey_000" wrote:

I've worked in three different cabinet shops in the past ten years and
recently decided I would like to start my own home woodshop. I
started doing research on all the tools and equipment I would need to
get started and tried to come up with a number of around how much it
would cost. Needless to say I was overwhelmed by the numbers I was
coming up with and I still wasn't sure I would be getting quality
equipment for what I would be paying.

I started to dig deeper on how to choose what was quality equipment
and how to tell. Again I started to get overwhelmed. There was no
one site I could go to that gave a good explanation of all the
different stuff to look for before I bought. I had stacks of books
from the library and was scouring the web for info.

I thought wouldn't it be great if there was one place I could look to
find the information I needed. So for others like myself I decided to
set up a site that would do just that.

In the past few months I have been working on the site trying to
explain the information as clearly and easily as possible. The
problem is what may make sense to me may not to others. What I'm
asking you all for is to act as my editors.

My site (as of right now) is small and just an informational site.
There are no advertisements and I am not trying to sell anything, so
please don't be worried that is some sorta scheme.

All I'm asking for is your opinion on the information that I have
given so far. If you think it is good or bad. No matter which please
don't just tell me "oh this site sucks/ is good" but would like to
hear why and how you think I can make it better. What else should I
add or get rid of? Please add your comments on the forum or send me a
message through the comments page on the site.

The site is www.woodworking-machinery-and-tools.com .

Thank you in advance for your time and opinions

Jeremy


I sent you a comment via the contact us, but I skimmed the site so I
had another recommendation:

You have the jointer and planer listed as milling machines. You may
want to rename that as there are machines called milling machines that
have to do with machining metal. Look up Bridgeport mill on google
images. The terminology is a little confusing. Is all.

Also I have a Rigid router and will soon have a Rigid thickness
planer, I'll get some good photos of them in the next week and post
them on that blog I sent you. Feel free to download them when they
show up on the blog, all I ask is you link back to the blog and give
me credit for them.

-Matt

On 24 Mar 2007 11:19:59 -0700, "Skey_000" wrote:

.... snip


I thought wouldn't it be great if there was one place I could look to
find the information I needed. So for others like myself I decided to
set up a site that would do just that.

In the past few months I have been working on the site trying to
explain the information as clearly and easily as possible. The
problem is what may make sense to me may not to others. What I'm
asking you all for is to act as my editors.

My site (as of right now) is small and just an informational site.
There are no advertisements and I am not trying to sell anything, so
please don't be worried that is some sorta scheme.

All I'm asking for is your opinion on the information that I have
given so far. If you think it is good or bad. No matter which please
don't just tell me "oh this site sucks/ is good" but would like to
hear why and how you think I can make it better. What else should I
add or get rid of? Please add your comments on the forum or send me a
message through the comments page on the site.

The site is www.woodworking-machinery-and-tools.com .

Thank you in advance for your time and opinions

Jeremy

I took a quick gander at you site, not expecting a whole lot (since you
said you were just getting it set up). I came away greatly impressed, you
have done an admirable job of setting up a site for someone looking to get
started in woodworking. This would not be a bad site to point people who
post on rec.ww who ask about setting up a shop and what tools they should
get, etc.

Don't have a whole lot of recommendations for you. Would recommend you
add "rubber mallet" to your hammers section, that seems to work well for
closing paint cans, tapping things into place and is somewhat less
expensive than the dead blow hammers. Also, point folks toward the
Robertson screw type as well as flat and philips.

Maybe a link to hand planes and scrapers on your hand tools page.

You've undertaken a huge project (as if you don't already know that). The
site (IMO) is well done and crisp.



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If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough

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Great idea for a site. You've taken on a Herculean task though.

Layout's nice - navigation easy.

Handtools section seems a bit light - no handsaws, no planes,
not even a bench plane / apron plane. when it comes to marking
gauges, why not an example of a 20th century one - like
the Tite-Mark (tm) or the Lee Valley version of it.

If the info is for folks thinking about setting up a commercial
shop - add a chop saw, miter saw or compound miter saw or
sliding compound miters saw. No commercial shop lacks a
router or three and a shaper.

As for machine comparisons - manufacturers make it tricky
by changing model numbers and paint jobs - remember
when Platinum Edition stuff was hot. Meant - same old saw
but painted white with a stick on Platinum Edition badge.

Bookmarked your site for future investigation.

Thanks for all the effort you've put in so far.

charlie b

"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
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Don't have a whole lot of recommendations for you. Would recommend you
add "rubber mallet" to your hammers section, that seems to work well for
closing paint cans, tapping things into place and is somewhat less
expensive than the dead blow hammers. Also, point folks toward the
Robertson screw type as well as flat and philips.


I thought this was well covered in another thread recently, and it was
widely agreed that the mallet was not necessary to close paint cans. The
proper technique, as I seem to recall was to loosely place the lid on the
can, quickly flip the can over upside down on the floor, and then to stand
on the can to seal the lid. This prevents damage to the rim of the lid,
such as would be introduced with the mallet. I'm certain this was agreed to
by all. You really need to keep up Mark...

--

-Mike-

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:21:10 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:


"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
.. .


Don't have a whole lot of recommendations for you. Would recommend you
add "rubber mallet" to your hammers section, that seems to work well for
closing paint cans, tapping things into place and is somewhat less
expensive than the dead blow hammers. Also, point folks toward the
Robertson screw type as well as flat and philips.


I thought this was well covered in another thread recently, and it was
widely agreed that the mallet was not necessary to close paint cans. The
proper technique, as I seem to recall was to loosely place the lid on the
can, quickly flip the can over upside down on the floor, and then to stand
on the can to seal the lid. This prevents damage to the rim of the lid,
such as would be introduced with the mallet. I'm certain this was agreed to
by all. You really need to keep up Mark...

Well, I'm sorry if some of us still cling to the old ways of doing
things.



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If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough

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"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:21:10 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:


"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
.. .


Don't have a whole lot of recommendations for you. Would recommend
you
add "rubber mallet" to your hammers section, that seems to work well
for
closing paint cans, tapping things into place and is somewhat less
expensive than the dead blow hammers. Also, point folks toward the
Robertson screw type as well as flat and philips.


I thought this was well covered in another thread recently, and it was
widely agreed that the mallet was not necessary to close paint cans. The
proper technique, as I seem to recall was to loosely place the lid on the
can, quickly flip the can over upside down on the floor, and then to
stand
on the can to seal the lid. This prevents damage to the rim of the lid,
such as would be introduced with the mallet. I'm certain this was agreed
to
by all. You really need to keep up Mark...

Well, I'm sorry if some of us still cling to the old ways of doing
things.


Dinosaur.

--

-Mike-

Mike Marlow wrote:

I thought this was well covered in another thread recently, and it was
widely agreed that the mallet was not necessary to close paint cans. The
proper technique, as I seem to recall was to loosely place the lid on the
can, quickly flip the can over upside down on the floor, and then to stand
on the can to seal the lid. This prevents damage to the rim of the lid,
such as would be introduced with the mallet. I'm certain this was agreed to
by all. You really need to keep up Mark...


Mike, will that work with striped paint?

TIA
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"Bill in Detroit" wrote in message
...
Mike Marlow wrote:

I thought this was well covered in another thread recently, and it was
widely agreed that the mallet was not necessary to close paint cans.
The
proper technique, as I seem to recall was to loosely place the lid on
the
can, quickly flip the can over upside down on the floor, and then to
stand
on the can to seal the lid. This prevents damage to the rim of the lid,
such as would be introduced with the mallet. I'm certain this was
agreed to
by all. You really need to keep up Mark...


Mike, will that work with striped paint?


As I understand it Bill, the secret to doing this successfully with a can of
striped paint is the direction in which you flip the can over. I can't
remember which direction that is though.

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On Mar 24, 7:26?pm, Bill in Detroit wrote:
Skey_000 wrote:
The site iswww.woodworking-machinery-and-tools.com.

Thank you in advance for your time and opinions

Jeremy

Jeremy ... basically praise ... with two caveats.

1) get someone with a solid grasp of the language to proofread for you.
I proofread my own work extensively. But far too often I 'read' what I
'meant' to write ... but not the words that actually ended up on the
screen. It is HARD to read your own writing objectively but on the
Milling Machines page (http://www.woodworking-machinery-and...-Machines.html) I
noticed a grammatical error in nearly every sentence. Most of the errors
are simple (missing punctuation, subject-verb disagreement and so on)
but their inclusion is distracting.

If you must proofread your own work, set it aside for a time. Then, when
you return a week or so later, it will be somewhat fresh ... and you
will be less inclined to confuse what you intended with your actual deeds.

2) The photos. These photos are very nice but, unless you are a
professional photograph, are probably not be original with you. Most
likely they are under copyright by someone else. You never gave
attribution to their source

From the looks of the site, almost all of what he has used comes from
PR departments. I'd go into terminal shock if anyone ever got in
trouble over using those shots, because that is why they are taken and
why they are provided.

On Mar 25, 4:38�pm, Mark & Juanita wrote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:21:10 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:







"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
.. .

* Don't have a whole lot of recommendations for you. *Would recommend you
add "rubber mallet" to your hammers section, that seems to work well for
closing paint cans, tapping things into place and is somewhat less
expensive than the dead blow hammers. *Also, point folks toward the
Robertson screw type as well as flat and philips.

I thought this was well covered in another thread recently, and it was
widely agreed that the mallet was not necessary to close paint cans. *The
proper technique, as I seem to recall was to loosely place the lid on the
can, quickly flip the can over upside down on the floor, and then to stand
on the can to seal the lid. *This prevents damage to the rim of the lid,
such as would be introduced with the mallet. *I'm certain this was agreed to
by all. *You really need to keep up Mark...

* Well, I'm sorry if some of us still cling to the old ways of doing
things. *


Add me to the old-fashioned list. I'd be very leery of turning a paint
can upside BEFORE the lid was sealed.

Simplest way: 12" square of plywood on top of the lid; stand on the
plywood. Works for me, and has for more than 50 years.