"Bob F" wrote in message
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"PrecisioNmachinisT" wrote in message
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"HeyBub" wrote in message
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kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:


I think everybody should install a Dwyer Magnehelic.

Then, they will not only know when it's time to change the filter,
but
they'll know if they have a ****** duct system.

PLEASE refrain from the profanity. It's just not gentlemanly.


PLEASE shove it up your ass, you ****ing moron...

After this post, I finally figured to look to see that this was also
posted to
alt.hvac. There are a few absolute losers that think they own that group,
and
homeowner questions are not appreciated by them.


I guess you missed my first reply, where I answered the OP's question.

It was one of your groupies that bitched about me using the word ****ty.
Ooops, I used it again.

I'm ****ing sorry!

wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:20:34 -0500, "U-Hate-Me" U-Hate-Me@home
wrote:


"HeyBub" wrote in message
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On second thought, if you don't like it... get off the Internet...
Better yet, kill yourself, so you will never have to see or hear of
those ****ty words, ever again.

I am going to pray to baby Jesus for your soul.

You are a reprobate.... Whatever the **** THAT is.

PS- I just took a **** and it looks like the baby Jesus.
Do I get a prize?


No, but you can sell it on Ebay.


Isn't that the ****ty truth.

"Bob F" wrote in message
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"PrecisioNmachinisT" wrote in message
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"HeyBub" wrote in message
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kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:


I think everybody should install a Dwyer Magnehelic.

Then, they will not only know when it's time to change the filter,
but
they'll know if they have a ****** duct system.

PLEASE refrain from the profanity. It's just not gentlemanly.


PLEASE shove it up your ass, you ****ing moron...

After this post, I finally figured to look to see that this was also
posted to
alt.hvac. There are a few absolute losers that think they own that group,
and
homeowner questions are not appreciated by them.



Not about that at all, ( you idiot ) ..

Rather, it's about self proclaimed usenet "language police"..

When someone dies and leaves "HeyBub" or anyone else in charge of usenet
then perhaps maybe there will be something more substantial to discuss on
the topic.

Until then appreciate go elsewhere and beat your ****ing head against the
wall or something.

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"HeyBub" wrote in message
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kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:

PLEASE refrain from the profanity. It's just not gentlemanly.


I'm so ****ING sorry, please forgive me for my ****ty typing.

On second thought, if you don't like it... get off the Internet...
Better yet, kill yourself, so you will never have to see or hear of
those ****ty words, ever again.

I am going to pray to baby Jesus for your soul.

Jesus is not a baby anymore!

wrote:
When a home air filter manufacturer recommends a filter change every
90 days, what duty cycle do they assume the filter wil be used?
1 hour per day?
10 hours per day?
24 hours per day?

I think they should list filter change recommendations in hours (e.g.
filter good for 300 hours of use).
(Some thermostats like my LUX have filter-life counters that show the
number of hours the filter was used since it was last changed).

THe AFI recommends every 3000 miles.

Art wrote:
By the way looking at it really doesn't tell you the condition if you have
an electrostatic filter. According to Filtrete the electronstatic fibers
loose their ability to atttrack the smallest particles before the filter is
otherwise dirty.

Hey Farty it's LOSE their ability. The only thing loose is your
(implied) brain because it is rattling...

Noon-Air wrote:
bunch 'o crap snipped

How's about 'change it when it's ****ing dirty' ?
No Air Filter manufacturer says that in their info sheet
You mean the one that says 'Change it weekly' ? :-)


I normally recommend MERV 11 pleated filters, and change them once a month.
Ust your power bill as a reminder to change the filter. Clean filter =
better efficiency = lower bills

oh hell..... never mind, that makes too much sense


Is that MERV Griffin? He's went code-7, oos, snake eyes, rolled a seven..

Noon-Air wrote:
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On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:16:04 -0500, "Noon-Air"
wrote:

bunch 'o crap snipped

How's about 'change it when it's ****ing dirty' ?
No Air Filter manufacturer says that in their info sheet
You mean the one that says 'Change it weekly' ? :-)

I normally recommend MERV 11 pleated filters, and change them once a
month.
Ust your power bill as a reminder to change the filter. Clean filter =
better efficiency = lower bills

oh hell..... never mind, that makes too much sense
Check, yes, that's fine. But change whether it needs it or
not ? Waste of money.

IMO, any filter change based on arbitrary time schedules is a
waste. I've done more than my share of them ( where it wasn'y my call
as to change or not ), and I've seen plenty that needed changing
months earlier than scheduled, and plenty that the 'old' ones I took
out were indistinguishable from the new ones I put in.

'How many days has it been since the last change' is
irrelevant. The condition of the filter, which is a result of useage,
environment, etc, should be what dictates whether the CHECK results in
a CHANGE or not. There's just no sense in changing filters that look
like you took them out of the box last week, any more than leaving
cruddy ones in place because some schedule says they're good for
another month or three.

A MERV 11 filter is going to pick up a lot more dirt, dust, animal dander,
and even some mold spores, as opposed to the K-mart 3 for a dollar
fiberglass specials that *might* stop larger critters and rocks.
Even in homes that look immaculately clean, there is a lot of stuff that
gets picked up in the pleats. If you want to use the fiberglass ones, and
wait till they are stopped up, thats fine, you can do that. You can breathe
all the stuff that passes through. Personally, I change mine every month.
BTW, I have a lot of customers who have had all kinds of
respiratory/asthmatic problems for years until they started using pleated
filters and changing them every month. Once they changed to pleats, their
symptoms went away. Thats good enough for me.


I have to have pleats in my pants to provide a home for an overgrown
trouser snake.

Bob F wrote:
"PrecisioNmachinisT" wrote in message
news:MImdnRc9K_QnxVLbnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@scnresearch. com...
"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:

I think everybody should install a Dwyer Magnehelic.

Then, they will not only know when it's time to change the filter, but
they'll know if they have a ****** duct system.
PLEASE refrain from the profanity. It's just not gentlemanly.

PLEASE shove it up your ass, you ****ing moron...

After this post, I finally figured to look to see that this was also posted to
alt.hvac. There are a few absolute losers that think they own that group, and
homeowner questions are not appreciated by them.

Bob


Took you a LOOOOOOONG time didn't it? Proves you aren't the brightest
buld in the chandelier especially during the brown out.

Mo Hoaner wrote:
"Bob F" wrote in message
. ..

After this post, I finally figured to look to see that this was also
posted to alt.hvac. There are a few absolute losers that think they own
that group, and homeowner questions are not appreciated by them.

Bob

Hey, aren't you due for Mount St. Helens to completely plug your filter, and
other orifices?


heh heh heh there's that word again: orifices

"Noon-Air" wrote

I normally recommend MERV 11 pleated filters, and change them once a
month. Ust your power bill as a reminder to change the filter. Clean
filter = better efficiency = lower bills

oh hell..... never mind, that makes too much sense

This is one of the discussions on usenet like, "What's the weather going to
be like tomorrow?"

Well, don't that depend on where you live?

I have friends North of San Diego who don't even have an AC system. A
million dollar house, and it sits on a small mountain near Bonsall, and it's
always nice temps there.

I live in the desert in Las Vegas. Only the homeless don't have AC units.

And even here, there's months when we hardly run the heat pump. Some times
we use the swam coolers.

So, do I need to change the AC filter once a month when I don't even kick it
on? I don't think so, Tim.

I LOOK at the filter. I know that is unacceptable for multitaskers and the
anal, but it works for me. If it needs changing, change it. But why waste
money on the decent pleated filters when you are taking out a clean one to
put a new one in?

This is a question that has only ONE logical answer.

Change it when it's dirty. If you can't remember to at least look at it
once a month, you need to slow your life down.

Multitasking - Being able to do more than one thing at a time, but not being
able to do at least one of them worth a flying ****.

Steve

wrote in news:1187984463.184095.237980
@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com:

When a home air filter manufacturer recommends a filter change every
90 days, what duty cycle do they assume the filter wil be used?
1 hour per day?
10 hours per day?
24 hours per day?

I think they should list filter change recommendations in hours (e.g.
filter good for 300 hours of use).
(Some thermostats like my LUX have filter-life counters that show the
number of hours the filter was used since it was last changed).

These ratings are (I'm guessing) the result of internal standards
used by the manufacturer and are mainly designed to allow comparison
between their products and for advertising (you are more likely to
purchase a filter that needs changed less often, even if more
expensive).

In practice (as the owner of t dogs, 4 cats and 2 kids) I find that
every week the filter needs a good vacuuming and every month it
needs replacing - irregardless of what the package says. Point is
you need to determine what is normal for your situation and stick
to that.

I purchase the higher quality filters that claim to reduce allergens.
They are considerably more expensive (about 12 bucks) but do seem
to reduce dust in the house. Ironically the 'better' filters
would need changing more often.

Note that there are available reusable filters that you can hose
off once a month.