Is there a way I can get my water heater from tripping my oil furnace
to go on all night to keep the reserve tank hot? It's using up about
1.4 gallons a day this summer and all we use the hot water for is
taking showers -about 1 per day, and washing dishes - every 3 days. I
think it's using too much oil just to keep the water hot and I'd like
to be able to have it turn off from 11pm to 6am every day so I don't
waste so much oil while I sleep.

If I cannot do this myself who do I call to get it fixed. Will any
furnace specialist be able to fix it or do I need to contact someone
with experience with tankless systems?

Just for clarification my tankless system is not the square box on the
wall, it's a mini tank connected to the furnace about the size of tank
used to power your standard outdoor gas grill.

On Jul 8, 1:01 am, Joe wrote:
Is there a way I can get my water heater from tripping my oil furnace
to go on all night to keep the reserve tank hot? It's using up about
1.4 gallons a day this summer and all we use the hot water for is
taking showers -about 1 per day, and washing dishes - every 3 days. I
think it's using too much oil just to keep the water hot and I'd like
to be able to have it turn off from 11pm to 6am every day so I don't
waste so much oil while I sleep.

If I cannot do this myself who do I call to get it fixed. Will any
furnace specialist be able to fix it or do I need to contact someone
with experience with tankless systems?

Just for clarification my tankless system is not the square box on the
wall, it's a mini tank connected to the furnace about the size of tank
used to power your standard outdoor gas grill.

What brand? Model number? I'm sure an expert on boilers would
ask for more information. Oil fired boilers are rare here in the
South East. We burn dinosaur farts around here. We even have
companies that draw methane gas off of coal fields and land fills.
Out of curiosity, what is the cost of heating oil in your realm?

[8~{} Uncle Monster

I suppose you could have a time clock installed on the boiler, to shut the
entire system down during predetermined hours of the day or night. The
problem with this approach, is that once the system is cold, it will have to
run for a longer period each time it is fired, which may use the same amount
of fuel as it does now. You could try turning down the boiler's high limit
aquastat to 125 degrees for the summer, and see if that helps



"Joe" wrote in message
ps.com...
Is there a way I can get my water heater from tripping my oil furnace
to go on all night to keep the reserve tank hot? It's using up about
1.4 gallons a day this summer and all we use the hot water for is
taking showers -about 1 per day, and washing dishes - every 3 days. I
think it's using too much oil just to keep the water hot and I'd like
to be able to have it turn off from 11pm to 6am every day so I don't
waste so much oil while I sleep.

If I cannot do this myself who do I call to get it fixed. Will any
furnace specialist be able to fix it or do I need to contact someone
with experience with tankless systems?

Just for clarification my tankless system is not the square box on the
wall, it's a mini tank connected to the furnace about the size of tank
used to power your standard outdoor gas grill.

On Jul 8, 7:39?am, "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote:
I suppose you could have a time clock installed on the boiler, to shut the
entire system down during predetermined hours of the day or night. The
problem with this approach, is that once the system is cold, it will have to
run for a longer period each time it is fired, which may use the same amount
of fuel as it does now. You could try turning down the boiler's high limit
aquastat to 125 degrees for the summer, and see if that helps

"Joe" wrote in message

ps.com...



Is there a way I can get my water heater from tripping my oil furnace
to go on all night to keep the reserve tank hot? It's using up about
1.4 gallons a day this summer and all we use the hot water for is
taking showers -about 1 per day, and washing dishes - every 3 days. I
think it's using too much oil just to keep the water hot and I'd like
to be able to have it turn off from 11pm to 6am every day so I don't
waste so much oil while I sleep.

If I cannot do this myself who do I call to get it fixed. Will any
furnace specialist be able to fix it or do I need to contact someone
with experience with tankless systems?

Just for clarification my tankless system is not the square box on the
wall, it's a mini tank connected to the furnace about the size of tank
used to power your standard outdoor gas grill.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

you might put a relay on the service switch. allow a low voltage wire
to a swich upstairs for easy on off.

easy test for a couple days just flip the service switch to off. allow
enough time to reheat stored water before showering etc.

On Jul 8, 6:13 am, wrote:
On Jul 8, 1:01 am, Joe wrote:

Is there a way I can get my water heater from tripping my oil furnace
to go on all night to keep the reserve tank hot? It's using up about
1.4 gallons a day this summer and all we use the hot water for is
taking showers -about 1 per day, and washing dishes - every 3 days. I
think it's using too much oil just to keep the water hot and I'd like
to be able to have it turn off from 11pm to 6am every day so I don't
waste so much oil while I sleep.

If I cannot do this myself who do I call to get it fixed. Will any
furnace specialist be able to fix it or do I need to contact someone
with experience with tankless systems?

Just for clarification my tankless system is not the square box on the
wall, it's a mini tank connected to the furnace about the size of tank
used to power your standard outdoor gas grill.

What brand? Model number? I'm sure an expert on boilers would
ask for more information. Oil fired boilers are rare here in the
South East. We burn dinosaur farts around here. We even have
companies that draw methane gas off of coal fields and land fills.
Out of curiosity, what is the cost of heating oil in your realm?

[8~{} Uncle Monster

Amtrol is the company and Extrol is the model and it says it's a
"Hydronic Heating System". Is that the same as a tankless system? I
paid $2.35/gallon last week to fill up my oil tank and I paid between
$1.99 and $2.29 a gallon during the winter from a discount wholesaler.
When I bought the house almost a year ago I was besieged with oil
companies trying to get me to lock in and I resisted and was happy I
did. The lock in price at the time was $2.62/gallon. Makes me wonder
if I was just lucky last year or should never lock in a price.

Right now it's costing me about $100 a month for hot water and I'm
wondering if it would be cheaper to have a conventional boiler
installed that is on all the time but I have no way of knowing if it
will use less energy. We do have a gas line on our street, my next
door neighbor has one. I know it would be expensive to convert but I'm
wondering if it would be cheaper in the long run.

Depending upon where you live, natural gas may not be cheaper even now. I
believe, in the NE, oil has historically been cheaper. You might consider a
small electric water heater for summer use only



"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 8, 6:13 am, wrote:
On Jul 8, 1:01 am, Joe wrote:

Is there a way I can get my water heater from tripping my oil furnace
to go on all night to keep the reserve tank hot? It's using up about
1.4 gallons a day this summer and all we use the hot water for is
taking showers -about 1 per day, and washing dishes - every 3 days. I
think it's using too much oil just to keep the water hot and I'd like
to be able to have it turn off from 11pm to 6am every day so I don't
waste so much oil while I sleep.

If I cannot do this myself who do I call to get it fixed. Will any
furnace specialist be able to fix it or do I need to contact someone
with experience with tankless systems?

Just for clarification my tankless system is not the square box on the
wall, it's a mini tank connected to the furnace about the size of tank
used to power your standard outdoor gas grill.

What brand? Model number? I'm sure an expert on boilers would
ask for more information. Oil fired boilers are rare here in the
South East. We burn dinosaur farts around here. We even have
companies that draw methane gas off of coal fields and land fills.
Out of curiosity, what is the cost of heating oil in your realm?

[8~{} Uncle Monster

Amtrol is the company and Extrol is the model and it says it's a
"Hydronic Heating System". Is that the same as a tankless system? I
paid $2.35/gallon last week to fill up my oil tank and I paid between
$1.99 and $2.29 a gallon during the winter from a discount wholesaler.
When I bought the house almost a year ago I was besieged with oil
companies trying to get me to lock in and I resisted and was happy I
did. The lock in price at the time was $2.62/gallon. Makes me wonder
if I was just lucky last year or should never lock in a price.

Right now it's costing me about $100 a month for hot water and I'm
wondering if it would be cheaper to have a conventional boiler
installed that is on all the time but I have no way of knowing if it
will use less energy. We do have a gas line on our street, my next
door neighbor has one. I know it would be expensive to convert but I'm
wondering if it would be cheaper in the long run.

On Jul 8, 7:39 am, "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote:
I suppose you could have a time clock installed on the boiler, to shut the
entire system down during predetermined hours of the day or night. The
problem with this approach, is that once the system is cold, it will have to
run for a longer period each time it is fired, which may use the same amount
of fuel as it does now. You could try turning down the boiler's high limit
aquastat to 125 degrees for the summer, and see if that helps


Thanks I already lowered it to 120, the prior owner had it at 160 and
the water was scalding but did come out hot much quicker. Now I have
to run the water for about a minute to get it hot. Makes me wonder if
the energy savings gets offset by the wasted water usage.

That is the question. There is definitely a point of diminishing returns.
When you say you lowered to water temperature, was that on the boiler, or on
the water heater?



"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 8, 7:39 am, "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote:
I suppose you could have a time clock installed on the boiler, to shut
the
entire system down during predetermined hours of the day or night. The
problem with this approach, is that once the system is cold, it will have
to
run for a longer period each time it is fired, which may use the same
amount
of fuel as it does now. You could try turning down the boiler's high
limit
aquastat to 125 degrees for the summer, and see if that helps


Thanks I already lowered it to 120, the prior owner had it at 160 and
the water was scalding but did come out hot much quicker. Now I have
to run the water for about a minute to get it hot. Makes me wonder if
the energy savings gets offset by the wasted water usage.

how about superinsulating the storage tank, thatr should reduce some
standby loses

On Jul 8, 10:03 am, "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote:
That is the question. There is definitely a point of diminishing returns.
When you say you lowered to water temperature, was that on the boiler, or on
the water heater?



I don't believe there is a boiler, just a small water heater. There is
only one option to lower the upper limit on temp.

The thing you are referring to as the "furnace" is the boiler. It probably
has a Honeywell gray box on the front of it, above the oil burner. In that
box is a high limit aquastat, probably set for 180 degrees. For the summer,
you could try turning that one down to around 125



"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 8, 10:03 am, "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote:
That is the question. There is definitely a point of diminishing returns.
When you say you lowered to water temperature, was that on the boiler, or
on
the water heater?



I don't believe there is a boiler, just a small water heater. There is
only one option to lower the upper limit on temp.

On Jul 8, 4:04 pm, "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote:
The thing you are referring to as the "furnace" is the boiler. It probably
has a Honeywell gray box on the front of it, above the oil burner. In that
box is a high limit aquastat, probably set for 180 degrees. For the summer,
you could try turning that one down to around 125


Sorry, I'm not really familiar with the difference between each. I
thought the boiler was the thing that holds the water. Anyway, the
aquastat is the box where I had already set the upper limit to 120.
Looks like I'm going to need a visit from a professional. I'll look in
the yellow pages for an HVAC contractor.