I just bought a house, its wiring for cable/internet in each bedroom.
However, in the basement, there is a large trunk of un-terminated
wires, so its not 100% ready.

I need to know exactly how to finish this wiring please!

2nd floor - Office. This room has a female CAT 5 jack built in the
wall. The cord in the basement has no end on it. I've already toned
which wire it is. The cable internet also was hooked to this room (by
isp). So this room has 2 PCs, Router, Cable Modem, and the un-used
cat5 port in the wall. Both PCs are online already.

1st floor - Living Room - Also an unused CAT5 jack built in the wall.
I've toned the cord to the basement, it also has a clean cut end.

Basement - The trunk of cords comes down here.

I have a really old Lynsys "hub" its an old loooking device, has
Collision lights on it .. I doubt its a router or a switch.

Here is what I was guessing:

Male-to-Male plug from router to 2nd floor wall jack. Terminate both
basement cords with female ends (not sure what config to use "A" or
"B").. Take those new female ends, and male-to-male from them to this
hub I have. Then male-to-male from my xbox to the 1st floor wall
jack..

Is that right? What config to I use on the basement females? Is there
any way to just slam these two basement cords together? Any help,
thanks!

If all the cat5 cables go from room to basement, and you have the cable from
the ISP in the basement, the easiest thing to do is buy a patch panel for
Ethernet. It will be color coded for both wiring standards, not knowing
which standard the room jacks are wired to. You'll need a punchdown tool to
install the cat 5 wires on it. It will have female cat5 jacks on it. You
will purchase short patch cables to connect from the patch panel to the
router, which you will install near by and connect to the modem



"Kbalz" wrote in message
ups.com...
I just bought a house, its wiring for cable/internet in each bedroom.
However, in the basement, there is a large trunk of un-terminated
wires, so its not 100% ready.

I need to know exactly how to finish this wiring please!

2nd floor - Office. This room has a female CAT 5 jack built in the
wall. The cord in the basement has no end on it. I've already toned
which wire it is. The cable internet also was hooked to this room (by
isp). So this room has 2 PCs, Router, Cable Modem, and the un-used
cat5 port in the wall. Both PCs are online already.

1st floor - Living Room - Also an unused CAT5 jack built in the wall.
I've toned the cord to the basement, it also has a clean cut end.

Basement - The trunk of cords comes down here.

I have a really old Lynsys "hub" its an old loooking device, has
Collision lights on it .. I doubt its a router or a switch.

Here is what I was guessing:

Male-to-Male plug from router to 2nd floor wall jack. Terminate both
basement cords with female ends (not sure what config to use "A" or
"B").. Take those new female ends, and male-to-male from them to this
hub I have. Then male-to-male from my xbox to the 1st floor wall
jack..

Is that right? What config to I use on the basement females? Is there
any way to just slam these two basement cords together? Any help,
thanks!

"Kbalz" wrote in message
ups.com...
I just bought a house, its wiring for cable/internet in each bedroom.
However, in the basement, there is a large trunk of un-terminated
wires, so its not 100% ready.

I need to know exactly how to finish this wiring please!

2nd floor - Office. This room has a female CAT 5 jack built in the
wall. The cord in the basement has no end on it. I've already toned
which wire it is. The cable internet also was hooked to this room (by
isp). So this room has 2 PCs, Router, Cable Modem, and the un-used
cat5 port in the wall. Both PCs are online already.

1st floor - Living Room - Also an unused CAT5 jack built in the wall.
I've toned the cord to the basement, it also has a clean cut end.

Basement - The trunk of cords comes down here.

I have a really old Lynsys "hub" its an old loooking device, has
Collision lights on it .. I doubt its a router or a switch.

Here is what I was guessing:

Male-to-Male plug from router to 2nd floor wall jack. Terminate both
basement cords with female ends (not sure what config to use "A" or
"B").. Take those new female ends, and male-to-male from them to this
hub I have. Then male-to-male from my xbox to the 1st floor wall
jack..

Is that right? What config to I use on the basement females? Is there
any way to just slam these two basement cords together? Any help,
thanks!


You rambled on there a bit or I have had one too many.

There is always a way to make the connection. Sounds like the router and
modem are upstairs. Connect the line from that room to a switch or hub in
the basement (the in port if labeled) and connect the other rooms to the out
ports.

If you get a two male patch cord between the two females, you have a
connection. Gosh that sounds kinky.

It might be easier to just cut the ends off, buy a crimper and add new ends
to the cat 5. Do be sure to make sure the last guy followed the correct
color codes for the wire before you crimp.

There may be a coupler M/M, F/F or M/F that you can buy. There may also be
gender changers. Radio Shack would be the place to look. Not the cheapest
but the best chance to find it.

You can use more than one hub/switch for additional connection points. To
the best of my knowledge you can NOT connect two devices to one line without
using a switch/hub.

If you need an extra switch, Ebay is a great place to shop.

I have rambled as much as I accused you of doing. Post back with any
questions.


Colbyt

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:08:12 -0000, Kbalz
wrote:

I just bought a house, its wiring for cable/internet in each bedroom.
However, in the basement, there is a large trunk of un-terminated
wires, so its not 100% ready.

I need to know exactly how to finish this wiring please!

2nd floor - Office. This room has a female CAT 5 jack built in the
wall. The cord in the basement has no end on it. I've already toned
which wire it is. The cable internet also was hooked to this room (by
isp). So this room has 2 PCs, Router, Cable Modem, and the un-used
cat5 port in the wall. Both PCs are online already.

1st floor - Living Room - Also an unused CAT5 jack built in the wall.
I've toned the cord to the basement, it also has a clean cut end.

Basement - The trunk of cords comes down here.

I have a really old Lynsys "hub" its an old loooking device, has
Collision lights on it .. I doubt its a router or a switch.

Here is what I was guessing:

Male-to-Male plug from router to 2nd floor wall jack. Terminate both
basement cords with female ends (not sure what config to use "A" or
"B").. Take those new female ends, and male-to-male from them to this
hub I have. Then male-to-male from my xbox to the 1st floor wall
jack..

Is that right? What config to I use on the basement females? Is there
any way to just slam these two basement cords together? Any help,
thanks!


It sounds like you have the same setup as I have.

I put a shelf in the basement for my cable modem (sounds like what you
have). Then I took a cat5 and ran it to all computer locations from
the shelf.

I didn't like my modem being in the basement because I could not reset
it or see the lights so I moved it to my main computer location. (Your
office 2)

Use the cat 5 in office 2 and plug it into one port on the router.
This will be the feed for your hub. Take your hub (repeater) and put
it in the basement and plug everything down there in the hub.

There are two types of Cat 5 connections. 568A and 568B You need to
find out what type you have at the wall jacks. Either one works but
you should match your existing setup.

You can either put a patch panel (female) in the basement (and use
jumpers male/male) or just put RJ-45s (male) directly on the ends of
the basement cables. The hub is female.

http://www.9thtee.com/networkingts.htm

DA had written this in response to
http://www.thestuccocompany.com/main...et-230799-.htm
:
Kbalz wrote:


I just bought a house, its wiring for cable/internet in each bedroom.
However, in the basement, there is a large trunk of un-terminated
wires, so its not 100% ready.

I need to know exactly how to finish this wiring please!

You need to terminate those cables downstairs on a patch panel or (less
useful in a residential home) a wiring block. The patch panels take many
different forms nowadays but I think the best would be to purchase a
specialized enclosure (think Home Depot low voltage isle) that sits
between studs on 16"centers and therefore can possibly allow a nicer
finish to the wall the cables are landing at. You will then need to
purchase a patch panel insert that the cables are actually terminated on
that snaps into the enclosure. They also make Ethernet switches that snap
into the enclosure but you may be better off buying a larger enclosure so
your can put your router in there

Be prepared to find that the jacks (the female connectors are commonly
known as "jacks" no matter how illogical that sounds) upstairs are NOT
terminated according to any of the two standards that were named in this
thread before - T568A and T568B - as low bid electrical contractors that
builders hire to do the job very often have no clue about either. So,
don't cut your cables too short. you may need to feed them back to the
jack upstairs (if the cable was at least pulled correctly, it may still
move inside the wall to a degree) so you can correct the jack's
termination.
Here are the above mentioned pin layouts for your reference:
http://www.cabling-design.com/refere...s/t568ab.shtml

When all is said and done, you will need two patch cords (RJ45-RJ45) per
cable to connect the actual equipment - PC on one end, router on the
other. make sure you buy short cables for the enclosure in the basement -
there will be no room to spare there.

Good luck!



What config to I use on the basement females?

Dude, I just could not resist highlighting this phrase :-) I'd be
extremely careful and use the safest config I could find :-) LOL.


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@Meat Plow: No way, I work in an IT dept. and have access to all the
tools.. I'm doing this myself. The setup for ports at my work is
different than setup at my home, and is why I started this question

Sounds like there is a few ways of doing this.. at this point I'm not
going to worry about buying anything that will mount nicely or
enclose.. just want it to work! (basement is currently unfinished,
I'll clean the mess later!)..

Many replys wrote of getting patch panel for the basement, to complete
the ends in the basement.. then ethernet cord from the patch panel
ports to the small hub/switch. Actually that's how it works at my
work! But,

http://www.cablestogo.com/product.as...2704&sku=37012

$50.

My question now (and kind of originally) - instead of the patch
panel, can I hook 8 of these up instead: http://www.nextwarehouse.com/item/?192012
(actually, I'd only need two for now)

And If I could use the female jacks downstairs, how do I know t586 "A"
or "B"? Do the basement jack ends have to match the config upstairs?
I can unscrew the plate and look at what they did upstairs. I guess if
the upstairs is "A", I'll convert it to "B" since that what we use at
work..

@DA: Yeah I liked that when I typed it too


Hmm another problem I just thought of, is for some reason they left me
little "extra" cord in the basement.. if I did want to nicely finish
the wiring, I'd need to extend the basement ethernet cords somehow
before they got to the patch panel.

Kbalz wrote:
@Meat Plow: No way, I work in an IT dept. and have access to all the
tools.. I'm doing this myself. The setup for ports at my work is
different than setup at my home, and is why I started this question

Sounds like there is a few ways of doing this.. at this point I'm not
going to worry about buying anything that will mount nicely or
enclose.. just want it to work! (basement is currently unfinished,
I'll clean the mess later!)..

Many replys wrote of getting patch panel for the basement, to complete
the ends in the basement.. then ethernet cord from the patch panel
ports to the small hub/switch. Actually that's how it works at my
work! But,

http://www.cablestogo.com/product.as...2704&sku=37012

$50.

My question now (and kind of originally) - instead of the patch
panel, can I hook 8 of these up instead: http://www.nextwarehouse.com/item/?192012
(actually, I'd only need two for now)


"For now" things have a way of becoming "forever". Why cut corners?
Installing a patch panel is the correct way to complete the network
wiring you described. (and it is never considered good form to crimp a
plug onto the cable)


And If I could use the female jacks downstairs, how do I know t586 "A"
or "B"? Do the basement jack ends have to match the config upstairs?
I can unscrew the plate and look at what they did upstairs. I guess if
the upstairs is "A", I'll convert it to "B" since that what we use at
work..

@DA: Yeah I liked that when I typed it too


Hmm another problem I just thought of, is for some reason they left me
little "extra" cord in the basement.. if I did want to nicely finish
the wiring, I'd need to extend the basement ethernet cords somehow
before they got to the patch panel.

On Jul 5, 10:23 am, George wrote:
Kbalz wrote:
@Meat Plow: No way, I work in an IT dept. and have access to all the
tools.. I'm doing this myself. The setup for ports at my work is
different than setup at my home, and is why I started this question

Sounds like there is a few ways of doing this.. at this point I'm not
going to worry about buying anything that will mount nicely or
enclose.. just want it to work! (basement is currently unfinished,
I'll clean the mess later!)..

Many replys wrote of getting patch panel for the basement, to complete
the ends in the basement.. then ethernet cord from the patch panel
ports to the small hub/switch. Actually that's how it works at my
work! But,

http://www.cablestogo.com/product.as...2704&sku=37012

$50.

My question now (and kind of originally) - instead of the patch
panel, can I hook 8 of these up instead:http://www.nextwarehouse.com/item/?192012
(actually, I'd only need two for now)

"For now" things have a way of becoming "forever". Why cut corners?
Installing a patch panel is the correct way to complete the network
wiring you described. (and it is never considered good form to crimp a
plug onto the cable)





And If I could use the female jacks downstairs, how do I know t586 "A"
or "B"? Do the basement jack ends have to match the config upstairs?
I can unscrew the plate and look at what they did upstairs. I guess if
the upstairs is "A", I'll convert it to "B" since that what we use at
work..

@DA: Yeah I liked that when I typed it too

Hmm another problem I just thought of, is for some reason they left me
little "extra" cord in the basement.. if I did want to nicely finish
the wiring, I'd need to extend the basement ethernet cords somehow
before they got to the patch panel.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I hoped my emphasis on the $50 patch panel would reveal I'm trying to
cut costs "for now".. not that I'm too lazy to mount/enclose it. The
female jack plugs are a few bucks each.. or free from work

On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:57:49 -0000, Kbalz
wrote:

@Meat Plow: No way, I work in an IT dept. and have access to all the
tools.. I'm doing this myself. The setup for ports at my work is
different than setup at my home, and is why I started this question

Sounds like there is a few ways of doing this.. at this point I'm not
going to worry about buying anything that will mount nicely or
enclose.. just want it to work! (basement is currently unfinished,
I'll clean the mess later!)..

Many replys wrote of getting patch panel for the basement, to complete
the ends in the basement.. then ethernet cord from the patch panel
ports to the small hub/switch. Actually that's how it works at my
work! But,

http://www.cablestogo.com/product.as...2704&sku=37012

$50.

My question now (and kind of originally) - instead of the patch
panel, can I hook 8 of these up instead: http://www.nextwarehouse.com/item/?192012
(actually, I'd only need two for now)

And If I could use the female jacks downstairs, how do I know t586 "A"
or "B"? Do the basement jack ends have to match the config upstairs?
I can unscrew the plate and look at what they did upstairs. I guess if
the upstairs is "A", I'll convert it to "B" since that what we use at
work..

@DA: Yeah I liked that when I typed it too


Hmm another problem I just thought of, is for some reason they left me
little "extra" cord in the basement.. if I did want to nicely finish
the wiring, I'd need to extend the basement ethernet cords somehow
before they got to the patch panel.


If you have extra cord, why would you want to extend the cable? The
patch panel or the jacks can be mounted anywhere. Jumpers would
extended to your hub.

If you have enough length on the existing cable, you can put a male
end (RJ-45) directly on the ends of the cables. This will plug
directly into the hub.

The way you tell which setup you have is to take off one of the wall
plates and look at the jack. The part number and the color pin out
will be on the jack. Converting everything to "B" sounds like a good
idea. You most likely already have "B"

BTW the reason your system is different at home than at work is
because at work the router is located at the patch panel.

At home your router/modem will be in office 2. You will have a
repeater in the basement.

You really do want your modem and router upstairs. This way, you can
see the indicator lights without having to go in the basement.

On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:23:30 -0400, George
wrote:

"For now" things have a way of becoming "forever". Why cut corners?
Installing a patch panel is the correct way to complete the network
wiring you described. (and it is never considered good form to crimp a
plug onto the cable)


Why do they sell them then?

Terry wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:23:30 -0400, George
wrote:
"For now" things have a way of becoming "forever". Why cut corners?
Installing a patch panel is the correct way to complete the network
wiring you described. (and it is never considered good form to crimp a
plug onto the cable)

Why do they sell them then?


To crimp onto the proper cable.

Meat Plow wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:23:30 -0400, George wrote:

"For now" things have a way of becoming "forever". Why cut corners?
Installing a patch panel is the correct way to complete the network
wiring you described. (and it is never considered good form to crimp a
plug onto the cable)

Especially with solid CAT5. Strippers usually nick the wire which then
fails down the road. Seen this too many times. The patch bay with punch
down is the correct way to do it and will last a lifetime.



For sure, I see so many crappy unreliable installations where someone
asks the experts at home depot and buys a roll of wire, a crimping tool
and a bag of plugs and think they are doing it the right way.

You really do want your modem and router upstairs. This way, you can
see the indicator lights without having to go in the basement.

Yep - this was a pain at my last house.. due to the work I bring home.
Going to basement to reset router/modem for any reason. I don't mind
having a bunch of equipment in my office either!

I found some less-expensive patch panel. I'll just punch the basement
cords to the panel. Then plug each output from the patch panel to the
hub.

When I sell the house down the road, the next owner can do it
backwards just as easy (router/modem in basement)