Anybody know of source for approximately 2" diam. 3" long hard rubber
bumpers or something similar?

Rear support on JD 966 utility tractor is missing (long story, bought
the tractor used, the seller had put new hood on it, but hadn't fitted
it out w/ all the odds and ends of the origninal). JD doesn't show
what is supposed to actually be there on the parts diagrams but has
emobsses on the underside of the hood for a threaded stud similar to
those that hold the front brackets. I think they're 8 mm, btw, for a
hint on size needed for the bumpers. There are areas directly under
these molded into the trough that fits over the fuel tank that they
would set on/in. W/O anything there, the hood is resting directly on
the dash panel and sits low enough the firewall panel is rubbing the
hood. Eventually this is going to wear a hole in the hood itself if I
can't find/fabricate something suitable.

So, ideal would be a molded bumper w/ a threaded insert on the other
end..I've seen such things, but can't seem to find any source...help/
leads appreciated.

On 23 May 2007 12:40:06 -0700, dpb wrote:

Anybody know of source for approximately 2" diam. 3" long hard rubber
bumpers or something similar?

Rear support on JD 966 utility tractor is missing (long story, bought
the tractor used, the seller had put new hood on it, but hadn't fitted
it out w/ all the odds and ends of the origninal). JD doesn't show
what is supposed to actually be there on the parts diagrams but has
emobsses on the underside of the hood for a threaded stud similar to
those that hold the front brackets. I think they're 8 mm, btw, for a
hint on size needed for the bumpers. There are areas directly under
these molded into the trough that fits over the fuel tank that they
would set on/in. W/O anything there, the hood is resting directly on
the dash panel and sits low enough the firewall panel is rubbing the
hood. Eventually this is going to wear a hole in the hood itself if I
can't find/fabricate something suitable.

So, ideal would be a molded bumper w/ a threaded insert on the other
end..I've seen such things, but can't seem to find any source...help/
leads appreciated.

My first thought was urethane bushing as I replaced the front
suspension in my truck with them...

A fast check resulted this threaded poly....HTH

http://www.polyprod.com/bumper.html



--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

On May 23, 2:47 pm, Oren wrote:
On 23 May 2007 12:40:06 -0700, dpb wrote:



Anybody know of source for approximately 2" diam. 3" long hard rubber
bumpers or something similar?

Rear support on JD 966 utility tractor is missing (long story, bought
the tractor used, the seller had put new hood on it, but hadn't fitted
it out w/ all the odds and ends of the origninal). JD doesn't show
what is supposed to actually be there on the parts diagrams but has
emobsses on the underside of the hood for a threaded stud similar to
those that hold the front brackets. I think they're 8 mm, btw, for a
hint on size needed for the bumpers. There are areas directly under
these molded into the trough that fits over the fuel tank that they
would set on/in. W/O anything there, the hood is resting directly on
the dash panel and sits low enough the firewall panel is rubbing the
hood. Eventually this is going to wear a hole in the hood itself if I
can't find/fabricate something suitable.

So, ideal would be a molded bumper w/ a threaded insert on the other
end..I've seen such things, but can't seem to find any source...help/
leads appreciated.

My first thought was urethane bushing as I replaced the front
suspension in my truck with them...

A fast check resulted this threaded poly....HTH

http://www.polyprod.com/bumper.html

Oren, by golly, I think that could shore do the trick...I'm thinking
the softer ones probably would work better for my purpose. I also
realized (somewhat belatedly) that there's a magnet mounted on a
bracket on the firewal, but nothing for it to latch on to on the
hood...I need to figure out the right heights and clearances and do
some figgering...for the life of me I can't understand them not
showing on the JD parts diagrams/lists, though. The small tractor
mechanic locally says he can't recall there being more than one more
of this series in the area and it was sold at a retirement sale a
couple of years ago so don't know where it is any longer. He says
he's not seen one to know what the actually had from factory but
there's no doubt whatever it was isn't shown on any diagrams.

Anyway, that's a good pointer and undoubtedly will get something that
will be workable...

-- dpb

--


"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

On 23 May 2007 17:24:15 -0700, dpb wrote:

On May 23, 2:47 pm, Oren wrote:
On 23 May 2007 12:40:06 -0700, dpb wrote:



Anybody know of source for approximately 2" diam. 3" long hard rubber
bumpers or something similar?

Rear support on JD 966 utility tractor is missing (long story, bought
the tractor used, the seller had put new hood on it, but hadn't fitted
it out w/ all the odds and ends of the origninal). JD doesn't show
what is supposed to actually be there on the parts diagrams but has
emobsses on the underside of the hood for a threaded stud similar to
those that hold the front brackets. I think they're 8 mm, btw, for a
hint on size needed for the bumpers. There are areas directly under
these molded into the trough that fits over the fuel tank that they
would set on/in. W/O anything there, the hood is resting directly on
the dash panel and sits low enough the firewall panel is rubbing the
hood. Eventually this is going to wear a hole in the hood itself if I
can't find/fabricate something suitable.

So, ideal would be a molded bumper w/ a threaded insert on the other
end..I've seen such things, but can't seem to find any source...help/
leads appreciated.

My first thought was urethane bushing as I replaced the front
suspension in my truck with them...

A fast check resulted this threaded poly....HTH

http://www.polyprod.com/bumper.html

Oren, by golly, I think that could shore do the trick...I'm thinking
the softer ones probably would work better for my purpose. I also
realized (somewhat belatedly) that there's a magnet mounted on a
bracket on the firewal, but nothing for it to latch on to on the
hood...I need to figure out the right heights and clearances and do
some figgering...for the life of me I can't understand them not
showing on the JD parts diagrams/lists, though. The small tractor
mechanic locally says he can't recall there being more than one more
of this series in the area and it was sold at a retirement sale a
couple of years ago so don't know where it is any longer. He says
he's not seen one to know what the actually had from factory but
there's no doubt whatever it was isn't shown on any diagrams.

Anyway, that's a good pointer and undoubtedly will get something that
will be workable...

Would Shop Manual, like Chilton's type have more detail vs a parts
list?



--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

On May 24, 2:23 pm, Oren wrote:
On 23 May 2007 17:24:15 -0700, dpb wrote:



On May 23, 2:47 pm, Oren wrote:
On 23 May 2007 12:40:06 -0700, dpb wrote:

Anybody know of source for approximately 2" diam. 3" long hard rubber
bumpers or something similar?

Rear support on JD 966 utility tractor is missing (long story, bought
the tractor used, the seller had put new hood on it, but hadn't fitted
it out w/ all the odds and ends of the origninal). JD doesn't show
what is supposed to actually be there on the parts diagrams but has
emobsses on the underside of the hood for a threaded stud similar to
those that hold the front brackets. I think they're 8 mm, btw, for a
hint on size needed for the bumpers. There are areas directly under
these molded into the trough that fits over the fuel tank that they
would set on/in. W/O anything there, the hood is resting directly on
the dash panel and sits low enough the firewall panel is rubbing the
hood. Eventually this is going to wear a hole in the hood itself if I
can't find/fabricate something suitable.

So, ideal would be a molded bumper w/ a threaded insert on the other
end..I've seen such things, but can't seem to find any source...help/
leads appreciated.

My first thought was urethane bushing as I replaced the front
suspension in my truck with them...

A fast check resulted this threaded poly....HTH

http://www.polyprod.com/bumper.html

Oren, by golly, I think that could shore do the trick...I'm thinking
the softer ones probably would work better for my purpose. I also
realized (somewhat belatedly) that there's a magnet mounted on a
bracket on the firewal, but nothing for it to latch on to on the
hood...I need to figure out the right heights and clearances and do
some figgering...for the life of me I can't understand them not
showing on the JD parts diagrams/lists, though. The small tractor
mechanic locally says he can't recall there being more than one more
of this series in the area and it was sold at a retirement sale a
couple of years ago so don't know where it is any longer. He says
he's not seen one to know what the actually had from factory but
there's no doubt whatever it was isn't shown on any diagrams.

Anyway, that's a good pointer and undoubtedly will get something that
will be workable...

Would Shop Manual, like Chilton's type have more detail vs a parts
list?

--

I've looked at the full JD service manual/exploded diagrams as here
--

http://jdpc.deere.com/jdpc/servlet/c... geServlet_Alt

These are electronic versions of the official Deere manuals and all
there is...

Not absolutely positive what view that link will bring up in a new
browser if you're interested enough to peruse it, but the alphabetical
list and "magnet" will bring you the drawing that shows the magnet/
mount (which is there), and "support, hood" will show the hood section
-- which shows nothing for the magnet to latch upon. Extensive
searching of all nearby drawings leads to nothing as of yet and it's
hard tto fathom on what other drawing it might have been pictured...

Anyway, I do appreciate the "bumper" link -- I hadn't thought of the
type of application you had that got the successful search although it
is obvious in retrospect (ain't it always??? )...

-- dpb

--

On 23 May 2007 12:40:06 -0700, dpb wrote:

Anybody know of source for approximately 2" diam. 3" long hard rubber
bumpers or something similar?

Rear support on JD 966 utility tractor is missing (long story, bought
the tractor used, the seller had put new hood on it, but hadn't fitted
it out w/ all the odds and ends of the origninal). JD doesn't show
what is supposed to actually be there on the parts diagrams but has
emobsses on the underside of the hood for a threaded stud similar to
those that hold the front brackets. I think they're 8 mm, btw, for a
hint on size needed for the bumpers. There are areas directly under
these molded into the trough that fits over the fuel tank that they
would set on/in. W/O anything there, the hood is resting directly on
the dash panel and sits low enough the firewall panel is rubbing the
hood. Eventually this is going to wear a hole in the hood itself if I
can't find/fabricate something suitable.

So, ideal would be a molded bumper w/ a threaded insert on the other
end..I've seen such things, but can't seem to find any source...help/
leads appreciated.

My 94 saturn has a rubber engine upper support mount that I
fabricated completely out of 'Goop' when the original failed.

It has been holding for 5 years now.

On May 24, 3:32 pm, dpb wrote:
....
I've looked at the full JD service manual/exploded diagrams as here
--

http://jdpc.deere.com/jdpc/servlet/c...tscatalog.view...

....

Not absolutely positive what view that link will bring up in a new
browser ...

Opens up the parts app, not the previously displayed page. Enter
"955" in the model field then select "compact utility tractor" from
the list...again, assumes enough interest to look, a _BIG_ assumption,
I grant...

On May 25, 7:47 am, DK wrote:
....
My 94 saturn has a rubber engine upper support mount that I
fabricated completely out of 'Goop' when the original failed.
.....

"Goop" is a brand, I thought...DAGS and their web site uses so much
Flash that w/ dialup was unusable when went to any "product" link.
Which product, specifically, did you use? ("Goop" was most often a
hand cleaner in my vocabulary... ).

On 24 May 2007 13:32:15 -0700, dpb wrote:

but the alphabetical
list and "magnet" will bring you the drawing that shows the magnet/
mount (which is there), and "support, hood" will show the hood section
-- which shows nothing for the magnet to latch upon.

At the alpha list, select *H* and drop down to HOOD MAGNET AND
BRACKET (LATCH). Looks like an angle bracket mounts to the firewall?


--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

Oren wrote:
On 24 May 2007 13:32:15 -0700, dpb wrote:

but the alphabetical
list and "magnet" will bring you the drawing that shows the magnet/
mount (which is there), and "support, hood" will show the hood section
-- which shows nothing for the magnet to latch upon.

At the alpha list, select *H* and drop down to HOOD MAGNET AND
BRACKET (LATCH). Looks like an angle bracket mounts to the firewall?


Yeah, but now your mission (if you choose to accept it) is to find the
whatever it is that's suppose to mount on the hood underside for the
magnet to catch...

The magnet/bracket is present...

--

dpb

On 25 May 2007 10:34:31 -0700, dpb wrote:


Oren wrote:
On 24 May 2007 13:32:15 -0700, dpb wrote:

but the alphabetical
list and "magnet" will bring you the drawing that shows the magnet/
mount (which is there), and "support, hood" will show the hood section
-- which shows nothing for the magnet to latch upon.

At the alpha list, select *H* and drop down to HOOD MAGNET AND
BRACKET (LATCH). Looks like an angle bracket mounts to the firewall?


Yeah, but now your mission (if you choose to accept it) is to find the
whatever it is that's suppose to mount on the hood underside for the
magnet to catch...

The magnet/bracket is present...


So you have parts 1 - 4? Is 2,3 and 4 actually riveted together?

Just guessing that 2 magnetically "sticks" to the hood?

Is 7 the bumper pad you need?

--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

On 25 May 2007 06:28:34 -0700, dpb wrote:

On May 25, 7:47 am, DK wrote:
...
My 94 saturn has a rubber engine upper support mount that I
fabricated completely out of 'Goop' when the original failed.
....

"Goop" is a brand, I thought...DAGS and their web site uses so much
Flash that w/ dialup was unusable when went to any "product" link.
Which product, specifically, did you use? ("Goop" was most often a
hand cleaner in my vocabulary... ).


Engine mounts in my vocabulary; means, engine mounts! :-/

--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

On May 25, 1:24 pm, Oren wrote:
On 25 May 2007 10:34:31 -0700, dpb wrote:





Oren wrote:
On 24 May 2007 13:32:15 -0700, dpb wrote:

but the alphabetical
list and "magnet" will bring you the drawing that shows the magnet/
mount (which is there), and "support, hood" will show the hood section
-- which shows nothing for the magnet to latch upon.

At the alpha list, select *H* and drop down to HOOD MAGNET AND
BRACKET (LATCH). Looks like an angle bracket mounts to the firewall?

Yeah, but now your mission (if you choose to accept it) is to find the
whatever it is that's suppose to mount on the hood underside for the
magnet to catch...

The magnet/bracket is present...

So you have parts 1 - 4? Is 2,3 and 4 actually riveted together?

Yes, and yes...


Just guessing that 2 magnetically "sticks" to the hood?

Would if there were something magnetic on the hood...

Is 7 the bumper pad you need?

No, that's a side panel sticky-back cushion -- I've replaced all of
those that were missing. What I was looking to replace (? or maybe
have a modification for the first time?) is a set of bumpers to mount
on the hood that would sit on the top of the fuel tank trough to hold
the hood up off the firewall (part 5, partition). As it is now, it
lays low enough the corners are wearing through from the sharp
edges...

The most peculiar thing is if you go to "Hood and Grille" note there
are no addons to the hood at the driver's end shown, only the hinges.
Where the bosses are that the hinges fasten to the studs are shown, on
the hood there are actually two (or maybe four?) more at the other end
that aren't even shown...that's where the magnet is located physically
but there ain't nothing for it to "mag"...

Anyway, thanks for looking and seeing (at least so far) the same thing
I have seen...

--

On May 25, 2:48 pm, Oren wrote:
On 25 May 2007 06:28:34 -0700, dpb wrote:

On May 25, 7:47 am, DK wrote:
...
My 94 saturn has a rubber engine upper support mount that I
fabricated completely out of 'Goop' when the original failed.
....

"Goop" is a brand, I thought...DAGS and their web site uses so much
Flash that w/ dialup was unusable when went to any "product" link.
Which product, specifically, did you use? ("Goop" was most often a
hand cleaner in my vocabulary... ).

Engine mounts in my vocabulary; means, engine mounts! :-/

Me, too, I was just curious what "goop" could be adequate for the
purpose...

I'm pretty sure your bumpers are much more suited to the task at hand
if I end up w/ no further leads directly from Mr Deere Greenpaint on
the _real_ missing part(s)...

--

On May 25, 5:06 pm, dpb wrote:
On May 25, 1:24 pm, Oren wrote:

....

The magnet/bracket is present...

So you have parts 1 - 4? Is 2,3 and 4 actually riveted together?

Yes, and yes...
....

As a little more clarification -- the rivet (1) is actually just a pop
rivet and holds the retainer over the magnet itself to make a nice,
neat little package mounted to the firewall/partition. Unfortunately,
the problem is there's nothing for it to attract...

--

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On 23 May 2007 17:24:15 -0700, dpb wrote:

On May 23, 2:47 pm, Oren wrote:
On 23 May 2007 12:40:06 -0700, dpb wrote:



Anybody know of source for approximately 2" diam. 3" long hard rubber
bumpers or something similar?



McMaster-Carr

On 25 May 2007 15:06:41 -0700, dpb wrote:

The magnet/bracket is present...

So you have parts 1 - 4? Is 2,3 and 4 actually riveted together?

Yes, and yes...


Just guessing that 2 magnetically "sticks" to the hood?

Would if there were something magnetic on the hood...

I was guessing that if 2 was not riveted with 3 and 4, then it might
mount under the hood.( wrong ).


Is 7 the bumper pad you need?

No, that's a side panel sticky-back cushion -- I've replaced all of
those that were missing. What I was looking to replace (? or maybe
have a modification for the first time?) is a set of bumpers to mount
on the hood that would sit on the top of the fuel tank trough to hold
the hood up off the firewall (part 5, partition). As it is now, it
lays low enough the corners are wearing through from the sharp
edges...

The most peculiar thing is if you go to "Hood and Grille" note there
are no addons to the hood at the driver's end shown, only the hinges.
Where the bosses are that the hinges fasten to the studs are shown, on
the hood there are actually two (or maybe four?) more at the other end
that aren't even shown...that's where the magnet is located physically
but there ain't nothing for it to "mag"...

It is a good riddle. :-))


Anyway, thanks for looking and seeing (at least so far) the same thing
I have seen...

For the hood bumpers; instead of the threaded poly ($) I was thinking
something like what is used under auto hoods and might be cheap at a
salvage yard.

It you solve the riddle with JD it would be interesting how it pans
out.

--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

Oren wrote:
On 25 May 2007 15:06:41 -0700, dpb wrote:

....
It is a good riddle. :-))

Except for the sign, 'tis true...

....

For the hood bumpers; instead of the threaded poly ($) I was thinking
something like what is used under auto hoods and might be cheap at a
salvage yard.

Actually, that's not a bad idea, either -- I was fixated on a solid
bumper the whole length needed, but there's really no reason it
couldn't be just a pad on the end of a stud...

It you solve the riddle with JD it would be interesting how it pans out.

Yeah, it appears I'll have to cobble up something -- wish I knew where
there were another to go look at--would make the design process
simpler/quicker, possibly. So far, I've not found a scrapped one at
any of the tractor salvage places that are relatively close, either.
Of course, for the most part they're far more interested in much
larger stuff than these little utility tractors...

On 26 May 2007 13:13:51 -0700, dpb wrote:

For the hood bumpers; instead of the threaded poly ($) I was thinking
something like what is used under auto hoods and might be cheap at a
salvage yard.

Actually, that's not a bad idea, either -- I was fixated on a solid
bumper the whole length needed, but there's really no reason it
couldn't be just a pad on the end of a stud...

Some pads/bumpers on/in a vehicle might be attached with just a sheet
metal screw down the center. You might not even need a threaded stud
(go search your truck :-) )

The _bride_ always puts these small clear bumpers on the inside of
cabinet doors. Even something that simple (larger) might stop/reduce
the hood damage.

--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

On May 26, 3:38 pm, Oren wrote:
On 26 May 2007 13:13:51 -0700, dpb wrote:

....

bumper the whole length needed, but there's really no reason it
couldn't be just a pad on the end of a stud...

Some pads/bumpers on/in a vehicle might be attached with just a sheet
metal screw down the center. You might not even need a threaded stud
(go search your truck :-) )

The _bride_ always puts these small clear bumpers on the inside of
cabinet doors. Even something that simple (larger) might stop/reduce
the hood damage.
....

The mounting bosses on the underside of the hood have holes for the
studs already cast in them so that's not a problem to place the
studs. There's not much else structural so that really is about the
only choice for the mounting. The ones on the old grain truck are
precisely that type though, and there are lots of old trucks out here
even though I don't have any to choose from w/o going to the salvage,
but surely a good starting point. As near as I could judge (and
measuring is a little tricky since not much of any way to get there
when lay the hood down (and using spacers to estimate, it's a little
hard to keep them in place while closing it), I'm estimating will need
almost 3" total length which pretty much means a stud to have the
lateral stiffness.

Anyway, thanks for the thought process and ideas -- got a few
alternatives to work on when get the time to get back to that -- field
spraying w/ bigger tractor is on the agenda at present and the little
one is for around the place only...