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How to ground an outlet without a grounding wire
I picked up a nifty receptacle/GFCI tester, and was surprised that a
number of outlets in the older part of our house (most of the house is a later addition) are not grounded. Simple enough. I shut off the breaker, pulled the faceplate and the outlet out of the box, and intended to connect the line grounding wire to the screw on the outlet. After stripping back the sheathing, I realized that the feed cable is not equipped with a green or bare copper grounding wire. There's just a black and white. My question is, short of rewiring the circuit, how do I ground these outlets? |
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How to ground an outlet without a grounding wire
On 25 Apr 2007 06:33:13 -0700, ctd4x4 wrote:
I picked up a nifty receptacle/GFCI tester, and was surprised that a number of outlets in the older part of our house (most of the house is a later addition) are not grounded. Simple enough. I shut off the breaker, pulled the faceplate and the outlet out of the box, and intended to connect the line grounding wire to the screw on the outlet. After stripping back the sheathing, I realized that the feed cable is not equipped with a green or bare copper grounding wire. There's just a black and white. My question is, short of rewiring the circuit, how do I ground these outlets? You don't. You replace the outlets with GFCIs, and label them "no equipment ground". |
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How to ground an outlet without a grounding wire
"ctd4x4" wrote in message oups.com... I picked up a nifty receptacle/GFCI tester, and was surprised that a number of outlets in the older part of our house (most of the house is a later addition) are not grounded. Simple enough. I shut off the breaker, pulled the faceplate and the outlet out of the box, and intended to connect the line grounding wire to the screw on the outlet. After stripping back the sheathing, I realized that the feed cable is not equipped with a green or bare copper grounding wire. There's just a black and white. My question is, short of rewiring the circuit, how do I ground these outlets? There are only 2 ways to get a grounded outlet. Replace the wiring with wire that has a black, white, and green or bare wire in it. You can also run a green or bare wire to each outlets grounding screw and then back to the fuse/braker box. With only 2 wires you can not get agrounded outlet. |
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How to ground an outlet without a grounding wire
After stripping back the sheathing, I realized that the feed cable is
not equipped with a green or bare copper grounding wire. There's just a black and white. My question is, short of rewiring the circuit, how do I ground these outlets? You don't. You replace the outlets with GFCIs, and label them "no equipment ground". GFCI would give you pretty good protection. Also, if/when it is convenient to do so, run a separate ground wire from the nearest grounded outlet (don't use water pipe) to the ungrounded outlets. |
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How to ground an outlet without a grounding wire
Ralph Mowery wrote:
"ctd4x4" wrote in message oups.com... I picked up a nifty receptacle/GFCI tester, and was surprised that a number of outlets in the older part of our house (most of the house is a later addition) are not grounded. Simple enough. I shut off the breaker, pulled the faceplate and the outlet out of the box, and intended to connect the line grounding wire to the screw on the outlet. After stripping back the sheathing, I realized that the feed cable is not equipped with a green or bare copper grounding wire. There's just a black and white. My question is, short of rewiring the circuit, how do I ground these outlets? There are only 2 ways to get a grounded outlet. Replace the wiring with wire that has a black, white, and green or bare wire in it. You can also run a green or bare wire to each outlets grounding screw and then back to the fuse/braker box. With only 2 wires you can not get agrounded outlet. Yes you could. But it couldn't power anything.....G Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight. |
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How to ground an outlet without a grounding wire
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:27:46 GMT, "peter" wrote:
After stripping back the sheathing, I realized that the feed cable is not equipped with a green or bare copper grounding wire. There's just a black and white. My question is, short of rewiring the circuit, how do I ground these outlets? You don't. You replace the outlets with GFCIs, and label them "no equipment ground". GFCI would give you pretty good protection. Also, if/when it is convenient to do so, run a separate ground wire from the nearest grounded outlet (don't use water pipe) to the ungrounded outlets. Why don't use water pipe? Straight question. |
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How to ground an outlet without a grounding wire
If you had fault currents running through the water pipe, and someone like a
plumber, cut the pipe in the process of doing some work, he could get electrocuted. There was a time when connecting a non grounded outlet to a cold water pipe was code, but now only the first five feet of water entrance pipe into a building, would be acceptable aspasia wrote in message news On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:27:46 GMT, "peter" wrote: After stripping back the sheathing, I realized that the feed cable is not equipped with a green or bare copper grounding wire. There's just a black and white. My question is, short of rewiring the circuit, how do I ground these outlets? You don't. You replace the outlets with GFCIs, and label them "no equipment ground". GFCI would give you pretty good protection. Also, if/when it is convenient to do so, run a separate ground wire from the nearest grounded outlet (don't use water pipe) to the ungrounded outlets. Why don't use water pipe? Straight question. |
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How to ground an outlet without a grounding wire No researchdone
ctd4x4 wrote:
I picked up a nifty receptacle/GFCI tester, and was surprised that a number of outlets in the older part of our house (most of the house is a later addition) are not grounded. Simple enough. I shut off the breaker, pulled the faceplate and the outlet out of the box, and intended to connect the line grounding wire to the screw on the outlet. After stripping back the sheathing, I realized that the feed cable is not equipped with a green or bare copper grounding wire. There's just a black and white. My question is, short of rewiring the circuit, how do I ground these outlets? Hey Spud did a lot of research on this topic did ya? Google don't work for ya? Geez lazy ass... |
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How to ground an outlet without a grounding wire
Well, actually, you can't. Not safely.
-- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "ctd4x4" wrote in message oups.com... : I picked up a nifty receptacle/GFCI tester, and was surprised that a : number of outlets in the older part of our house (most of the house is : a later addition) are not grounded. : : Simple enough. I shut off the breaker, pulled the faceplate and the : outlet out of the box, and intended to connect the line grounding wire : to the screw on the outlet. : : After stripping back the sheathing, I realized that the feed cable is : not equipped with a green or bare copper grounding wire. There's just : a black and white. : : My question is, short of rewiring the circuit, how do I ground these : outlets? : |
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How to ground an outlet without a grounding wire
: : My question is, short of rewiring the circuit, how do I ground these : outlets? : what sort of existing cable is there? if its BX you can ground to the box provided it tests ok... I am saddended no one mentioned this. its a common fix |
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