Hello,

When I close the drawer on my cabinet, the whole thing shakes. It also seems
that the cabinet is leaning forward as it's no longer flush with the wall.

The cabinet sits between the stove and the fridge. It's just wide enough for
a coffee maker and toaster.

I emptied the cabinet and I can see two screws (Robinston). I pushed the
cabinet so it was flush with the wall and tried to tighten the screws. The
screws wouldn't tighten?!?

Is there some trick at tightening the cabinet? I tried to google for it but
I just seem to find articles about loose cabinet hinges - none talk about
loose cabinets.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

--
Chris

call kitchen tune-up
http://www.kitchentuneup.com/


"Chris" wrote in message
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| Hello,
|
| When I close the drawer on my cabinet, the whole thing shakes. It also
seems
| that the cabinet is leaning forward as it's no longer flush with the
wall.
|
| The cabinet sits between the stove and the fridge. It's just wide
enough for
| a coffee maker and toaster.
|
| I emptied the cabinet and I can see two screws (Robinston). I pushed
the
| cabinet so it was flush with the wall and tried to tighten the screws.
The
| screws wouldn't tighten?!?
|
| Is there some trick at tightening the cabinet? I tried to google for
it but
| I just seem to find articles about loose cabinet hinges - none talk
about
| loose cabinets.
|
| Any information would be greatly appreciated.
|
| Thanks.
|
| --
| Chris

Chris wrote:
Hello,

When I close the drawer on my cabinet, the whole thing shakes. It
also seems that the cabinet is leaning forward as it's no longer
flush with the wall.

The cabinet sits between the stove and the fridge. It's just wide
enough for a coffee maker and toaster.

I emptied the cabinet and I can see two screws (Robinston). I pushed
the cabinet so it was flush with the wall and tried to tighten the
screws. The screws wouldn't tighten?!?

Is there some trick at tightening the cabinet? I tried to google for
it but I just seem to find articles about loose cabinet hinges - none
talk about loose cabinets.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

What exactly do you mean "The screws wouldn't tighten"? Do you mean
they turn but don't secure the cabinet any better, they don't turn at all,
the turn and the screws tighten buy it did not help?

I would guess you could run a new screw or two into a stud back there.

However I would wonder about the bottom. The cabinet should have been
shimmed so it does not rock even if the floor is not level. It should not
need screws in the back it should be resting solid on the floor. You may
want to consider the bottom of it. You may need to remove and reset it.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

Joseph Meehan wrote:

Chris wrote:
Hello,

When I close the drawer on my cabinet, the whole thing shakes. It
also seems that the cabinet is leaning forward as it's no longer
flush with the wall.

The cabinet sits between the stove and the fridge. It's just wide
enough for a coffee maker and toaster.

I emptied the cabinet and I can see two screws (Robinston). I pushed
the cabinet so it was flush with the wall and tried to tighten the
screws. The screws wouldn't tighten?!?

Is there some trick at tightening the cabinet? I tried to google for
it but I just seem to find articles about loose cabinet hinges - none
talk about loose cabinets.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

What exactly do you mean "The screws wouldn't tighten"? Do you mean
they turn but don't secure the cabinet any better, they don't turn at all,
the turn and the screws tighten buy it did not help?

I mean the screws wouldn't turn as if they were already as tight as they
were going to get.

I would guess you could run a new screw or two into a stud back there.

I thought of this, but how can I be sure they the original screws are in a
stud? If they were in a stud, how could the cabinet have moved?

However I would wonder about the bottom. The cabinet should have been
shimmed so it does not rock even if the floor is not level. It should not
need screws in the back it should be resting solid on the floor. You may
want to consider the bottom of it. You may need to remove and reset it.

Ah, I see. The kitchen floor is laminate (wood pattern). Around the bottom
of the cabinet is this while trim-like wood. I'll remove that and see if I
can reseat the cabinet.

Thanks for the tips,

--
Chris

jart ames wrote:

call kitchen tune-up
http://www.kitchentuneup.com/

I live in Canada, but thanks. I'll check my yellow pages to see if there is
a company that provides similar services. However, I want to determine
first if this is something I can do myself....I kind of like fixing
things

--
Chris

On Jan 25, 8:05 am, Chris wrote:
Joseph Meehan wrote:
Chris wrote:
Hello,

When I close the drawer on my cabinet, the whole thing shakes. It
also seems that the cabinet is leaning forward as it's no longer
flush with the wall.

The cabinet sits between the stove and the fridge. It's just wide
enough for a coffee maker and toaster.

I emptied the cabinet and I can see two screws (Robinston). I pushed
the cabinet so it was flush with the wall and tried to tighten the
screws. The screws wouldn't tighten?!?

Is there some trick at tightening the cabinet? I tried to google for
it but I just seem to find articles about loose cabinet hinges - none
talk about loose cabinets.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

What exactly do you mean "The screws wouldn't tighten"? Do you mean
they turn but don't secure the cabinet any better, they don't turn at all,
the turn and the screws tighten buy it did not help?I mean the screws wouldn't turn as if they were already as tight as they
were going to get.

I would guess you could run a new screw or two into a stud back there.I thought of this, but how can I be sure they the original screws are in a
stud? If they were in a stud, how could the cabinet have moved?

However I would wonder about the bottom. The cabinet should have been
shimmed so it does not rock even if the floor is not level. It should not
need screws in the back it should be resting solid on the floor. You may
want to consider the bottom of it. You may need to remove and reset it.Ah, I see. The kitchen floor is laminate (wood pattern). Around the bottom
of the cabinet is this while trim-like wood. I'll remove that and see if I
can reseat the cabinet.

Thanks for the tips,

--
Chris- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -


You can try to figure out where the studs are that are behind the
cabinet. Here in the US, studs are generally 16" on center. Lot of
times in a kitchen, you can find a reference one by taking the cover
plate off a nearby outlet. The box should be nailed to one side of a
stud.

Once you think you know where the stud should be, you can drill a pilot
hole through just the cabinet for a wood screw. I'd go about an inch
deep. If the drill doesn't hit air, you should be on a stud and can
then put in a wood screw, about 2 1/2 long should do. Also, as
suggested, make sure it's properly shimmed.

"Chris" wrote in message
news:FO0uh.153801$rv4.25310@edtnps90...
Hello,

When I close the drawer on my cabinet, the whole thing shakes. It also
seems
that the cabinet is leaning forward as it's no longer flush with the wall.

The cabinet sits between the stove and the fridge. It's just wide enough
for
a coffee maker and toaster.

I emptied the cabinet and I can see two screws (Robinston). I pushed the
cabinet so it was flush with the wall and tried to tighten the screws. The
screws wouldn't tighten?!?

Is there some trick at tightening the cabinet? I tried to google for it
but
I just seem to find articles about loose cabinet hinges - none talk about
loose cabinets.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

--
Chris

I had this happen to one of my rentals where the whole 10' upper cabinet
section came off the wall and just about to crash down onto the floor. It
was attached with nails - two per cabinet at the top nailing strip. I jack
it up the 10' section with couple of hydraulic jacks and screw it back with
4" long lag bolts to all the studs - overkill but cheap insurance. The lag
bolts were driven with a 1/2" socket wrench so you could apply a lot of
torque so be careful not to over torque.

Sure you want to use the same screws that already failed once? I would
replace it with longer ones.

# Fred # wrote:


"Chris" wrote in message
news:FO0uh.153801$rv4.25310@edtnps90...
Hello,

When I close the drawer on my cabinet, the whole thing shakes. It also
seems
that the cabinet is leaning forward as it's no longer flush with the
wall.

The cabinet sits between the stove and the fridge. It's just wide enough
for
a coffee maker and toaster.

I emptied the cabinet and I can see two screws (Robinston). I pushed the
cabinet so it was flush with the wall and tried to tighten the screws.
The screws wouldn't tighten?!?

Is there some trick at tightening the cabinet? I tried to google for it
but
I just seem to find articles about loose cabinet hinges - none talk about
loose cabinets.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

--
Chris

I had this happen to one of my rentals where the whole 10' upper cabinet
section came off the wall and just about to crash down onto the floor. It
was attached with nails - two per cabinet at the top nailing strip. I jack
it up the 10' section with couple of hydraulic jacks and screw it back
with 4" long lag bolts to all the studs - overkill but cheap insurance.
The lag bolts were driven with a 1/2" socket wrench so you could apply a
lot of torque so be careful not to over torque.

Sure you want to use the same screws that already failed once? I would
replace it with longer ones.

Good point. I'll make sure I replace the screws.

--
Chris

wrote:



On Jan 25, 8:05 am, Chris wrote:
Joseph Meehan wrote:
Chris wrote:
Hello,

When I close the drawer on my cabinet, the whole thing shakes. It
also seems that the cabinet is leaning forward as it's no longer
flush with the wall.

The cabinet sits between the stove and the fridge. It's just wide
enough for a coffee maker and toaster.

I emptied the cabinet and I can see two screws (Robinston). I pushed
the cabinet so it was flush with the wall and tried to tighten the
screws. The screws wouldn't tighten?!?

Is there some trick at tightening the cabinet? I tried to google for
it but I just seem to find articles about loose cabinet hinges - none
talk about loose cabinets.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

What exactly do you mean "The screws wouldn't tighten"? Do you
mean
they turn but don't secure the cabinet any better, they don't turn at
all, the turn and the screws tighten buy it did not help?I mean the
screws wouldn't turn as if they were already as tight as they
were going to get.

I would guess you could run a new screw or two into a stud back
there.I thought of this, but how can I be sure they the original
screws are in a
stud? If they were in a stud, how could the cabinet have moved?

However I would wonder about the bottom. The cabinet should have
been
shimmed so it does not rock even if the floor is not level. It should
not
need screws in the back it should be resting solid on the floor. You
may
want to consider the bottom of it. You may need to remove and reset
it.Ah, I see. The kitchen floor is laminate (wood pattern). Around the
bottom
of the cabinet is this while trim-like wood. I'll remove that and see if
I can reseat the cabinet.

Thanks for the tips,

--
Chris- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -


You can try to figure out where the studs are that are behind the
cabinet. Here in the US, studs are generally 16" on center. Lot of
times in a kitchen, you can find a reference one by taking the cover
plate off a nearby outlet. The box should be nailed to one side of a
stud.

Once you think you know where the stud should be, you can drill a pilot
hole through just the cabinet for a wood screw. I'd go about an inch
deep. If the drill doesn't hit air, you should be on a stud and can
then put in a wood screw, about 2 1/2 long should do. Also, as
suggested, make sure it's properly shimmed.

Thanks for the tip on finding the studs.

If I understand correctly, the cabinet should be flush against the wall
without using the screws. Once it is flush, I can then use the screws to
anchor it to the wall?

Thanks.

--
Chris

Chris wrote:
Hello,

When I close the drawer on my cabinet, the whole thing shakes. It also seems
that the cabinet is leaning forward as it's no longer flush with the wall.

The cabinet sits between the stove and the fridge. It's just wide enough for
a coffee maker and toaster.

I emptied the cabinet and I can see two screws (Robinston). I pushed the
cabinet so it was flush with the wall and tried to tighten the screws. The
screws wouldn't tighten?!?

Is there some trick at tightening the cabinet? I tried to google for it but
I just seem to find articles about loose cabinet hinges - none talk about
loose cabinets.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

My guess is that the screws went into the wallboard, not into studs.
Try to locate the studs and put the screw through the cabinet frame into
the studs. One would probably be sufficient.

Chris wrote:

Joseph Meehan wrote:


Chris wrote:

Hello,

When I close the drawer on my cabinet, the whole thing shakes. It
also seems that the cabinet is leaning forward as it's no longer
flush with the wall.

The cabinet sits between the stove and the fridge. It's just wide
enough for a coffee maker and toaster.

I emptied the cabinet and I can see two screws (Robinston). I pushed
the cabinet so it was flush with the wall and tried to tighten the
screws. The screws wouldn't tighten?!?

Is there some trick at tightening the cabinet? I tried to google for
it but I just seem to find articles about loose cabinet hinges - none
talk about loose cabinets.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

What exactly do you mean "The screws wouldn't tighten"? Do you mean
they turn but don't secure the cabinet any better, they don't turn at all,
the turn and the screws tighten buy it did not help?


I mean the screws wouldn't turn as if they were already as tight as they
were going to get.


I would guess you could run a new screw or two into a stud back there.


I thought of this, but how can I be sure they the original screws are in a
stud? If they were in a stud, how could the cabinet have moved?

This is a bit confusing. When you push the cabinet back against the
wall, does the head of the screw protrude from the cabinet back? If so,
it might be in the stud but too long to hold the cabinet frame.


However I would wonder about the bottom. The cabinet should have been
shimmed so it does not rock even if the floor is not level. It should not
need screws in the back it should be resting solid on the floor. You may
want to consider the bottom of it. You may need to remove and reset it.


Ah, I see. The kitchen floor is laminate (wood pattern). Around the bottom
of the cabinet is this while trim-like wood. I'll remove that and see if I
can reseat the cabinet.

Thanks for the tips,

Does the cabinet merely move back and forth or does it rock? If it
rocks, then you need either to shim the front base or just take it out
and level the bottom (unless the flooring goes only part way under the
cabinet, in which case the flooring needs to be levelled)

clipped


Thanks for the tip on finding the studs.

If I understand correctly, the cabinet should be flush against the wall
without using the screws. Once it is flush, I can then use the screws to
anchor it to the wall?

Thanks.

Walls can be quite uneven and not be noticed until something staight and
true is placed against them. If the base of the wall is a little
further out than the upper wall, then pushing the cabinet top might make
the cabinet tilt back a bit. A baseboard, if there is one behind the
cab., would also cause this. Don't have an electrical cord running
behind the cabinet, I hope? What kind of counter-top/backsplash is there?

Whether floor, wall, cabinet, or all three are lopsided, something needs
to be brought into alignment. A narrow base cabinet doesn't need much
to hold it in place.

Norminn wrote:

clipped


Thanks for the tip on finding the studs.

If I understand correctly, the cabinet should be flush against the wall
without using the screws. Once it is flush, I can then use the screws to
anchor it to the wall?

Thanks.

Walls can be quite uneven and not be noticed until something staight and
true is placed against them. If the base of the wall is a little
further out than the upper wall, then pushing the cabinet top might make
the cabinet tilt back a bit. A baseboard, if there is one behind the
cab., would also cause this. Don't have an electrical cord running
behind the cabinet, I hope? What kind of counter-top/backsplash is there?

Whether floor, wall, cabinet, or all three are lopsided, something needs
to be brought into alignment. A narrow base cabinet doesn't need much
to hold it in place.

Turns out there is a small dip int the wall near the upper right hand corner
of the cabinet. So, the wall isn't even. It's an exterior wall.

There is a cut out whole where the cabinet sits. The cabinet sits a little
below the laminate flooring. The baseboard has been cut at the cabinet so
the cabinet resets "flush" with the wall.

Turned out that in order to secure the cabinet to the wall, the top would
need to be pushed back causing it to be a little uneven. According to my
level, just slightly uneven as only the tip of the bubble was crossing the
line. I used some old laminate that I found under the cabinet to help
secure the base.

I used a few more screws; spread out over the stud. The cabinet seems more
stable and secure now.

Thanks for the advice everyone


--
Chris