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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:45:51 -0800, Steve wrote:
The cylinder clips in place with two spring steel clips at 180 degrees to
one another. This allows it to be flipped for proper keyway orientation.
It's designed for removal with a special tool but you you can also probe
the
clips from the rear with a sharp pick or other instrument.

It would be nice to have a DIAGRAM of those two apparently deeply hidden
clips as locating them was too difficult for me when I tried on my own.

You have to remove the spindle and then probe down the spindle hole. If you
don't have the tool and have to do them one at a time it helps to insert a
key in the lock and use it to pull so the clip you did doesn't pop back
while you do the 2nd one. It can also just be knocked out like other people
have suggested.

Here it is step by step:

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze...kwikrekey.html

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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:45:51 -0800, Steve wrote:
The cylinder clips in place with two spring steel clips at 180 degrees to
one another. This allows it to be flipped for proper keyway orientation.
It's designed for removal with a special tool but you you can also probe
the
clips from the rear with a sharp pick or other instrument.

It would be nice to have a DIAGRAM of those two apparently deeply hidden
clips as locating them was too difficult for me when I tried on my own.

You have to remove the spindle and then probe down the spindle hole. If you
don't have the tool and have to do them one at a time it helps to insert a
key in the lock and use it to pull so the clip you did doesn't pop back
while you do the 2nd one. It can also just be knocked out like other people
have suggested.

Here it is step by step:

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze...kwikrekey.html

Has this horse been beat to death yet?

Beat to death, and starting to turn to glue.

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You have to starve them.
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Has this horse been beat to death yet?

If a thief removes the lock cylinder with that tool, does it leave a
telltale mess or is it transparent?


Chances are they won't take the time to replace the pop-out.But even if
they do, it will look like someone drove a screw into the keyway.
The Kwikset-or Tylo, or "kwikkie" or "pop-job" is a very prolific and
cheap lock that lots of people buy because they are cheap.
I have done plenty of them when I first started doing locksmithing
years ago.
I don't work on them or rekey them that much because they are so easily
replaced.
Like the other guy said-you bring it to the shop-I'd probably do it for
free.
There's probably a lockie out there that would do that-or not for very
much.

Next time you want a lock for a door, go stand in front of the door.If
it's the front door stand on the outside and stand right in front of
where the knob/lever is.
Now position your body so that half of you is in front of the door and
the other half of you is front of the wall next to the knob/lever.
In other words imagine that the frame of the door (next to where the
knob/lever is)is a vertical line running parallel to the middle of your
body.
Stand a few feet away from the frame with your arms down.
Now bend your arms at the elbows like you are shooting 2 pistols from
the hip.
Which hand is closer to the knob/lever?
If left hand-It is a left hand door
If right hand-it is a right hand door
If the door opens outward in either case-it is reverse.
So it could be right hand-(If your right hand is closest and it opens
inward)or right hand reverse-(If your right hand is closest and the
door opens outward)
Or left hand-or left hand reverse.

Alot of grade 1 and 2 locks will be handed, so you are better off,
especially if you can tell a locksmith"Well, I need a deadbolt for a
Left-Hand door" or "I need a deadbolt for a right hand reverse door".

Hope this helps.
goma.

On 17 Jan 2007 17:51:06 -0800, goma865 wrote:
Which hand is closer to the knob/lever?
If left hand-It is a left hand door
If right hand-it is a right hand door
If the door opens outward in either case-it is reverse.

I'm confused.

In this thread, people already previously said the handedness was simply a
matter of where the hinges are. If the hinges are on the right, it's a
right hand door. If the hinges are on the left, it's a left hand door. Or
so I was told.

Is that not true?
Does it really depend on whether the door opens outward or inward?

on some locks... rh, lh, lhr, & rhr... on some locks and strikes it
matters.. not on a Kwikset and rarely if ever a deadbolt!
Roger
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On 17 Jan 2007 17:51:06 -0800, goma865 wrote:
Which hand is closer to the knob/lever?
If left hand-It is a left hand door
If right hand-it is a right hand door
If the door opens outward in either case-it is reverse.

I'm confused.

In this thread, people already previously said the handedness was simply a
matter of where the hinges are. If the hinges are on the right, it's a
right hand door. If the hinges are on the left, it's a left hand door. Or
so I was told.

Is that not true?
Does it really depend on whether the door opens outward or inward?

If the door swings out, it's called a "reverse bevel".

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You have to starve them.
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On 17 Jan 2007 17:51:06 -0800, goma865 wrote:
Which hand is closer to the knob/lever?
If left hand-It is a left hand door
If right hand-it is a right hand door
If the door opens outward in either case-it is reverse.

I'm confused.

In this thread, people already previously said the handedness
was simply a
matter of where the hinges are. If the hinges are on the right,
it's a
right hand door. If the hinges are on the left, it's a left
hand door. Or
so I was told.

Is that not true?
Does it really depend on whether the door opens outward or
inward?

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On 17 Jan 2007 17:51:06 -0800, goma865 wrote:
Which hand is closer to the knob/lever?
If left hand-It is a left hand door
If right hand-it is a right hand door
If the door opens outward in either case-it is reverse.

I'm confused.

In this thread, people already previously said the
handedness was simply a
matter of where the hinges are. If the hinges are on the
right, it's a
right hand door. If the hinges are on the left, it's a
left hand door. Or
so I was told.

Is that not true?
Does it really depend on whether the door opens outward or
inward?

a.. Left Hand (LH): If the hinges are on the left and the
door opens in, it's a left hand door. You push the door with
your left hand.
a.. Right Hand (RH): If the hinges are on the right and
the door opens in, it's a right hand door. You push the door
with your right hand.
a.. Left Hand Reverse (LHR): If the hinges are on the left
and the door opens out, it's a left hand reverse door. You
pull the door with your left hand.
a.. Right Hand Reverse (RHR): If the hinges are on the
right and the door opens out, it's a right hand reverse
door. You pull the door with your right hand.

a.. Another way to determine door "handing" is to imagine
yourself standing in the doorway with your back against the
hinges. Swing your right or left arm in the way that the
door swings. If you swing your left arm then the door is
left handed. Swing your right arm and it is right handed.
This method does not require a reference such as "from the
outside" or "from the inside".

above from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door

check out (Door Swings) about 2/3rd down the page...


g'day

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On Saturday, January 13, 2007 at 9:03:37 PM UTC-10, wrote:
How do we flip a left-hand Kwikset lock so it works on a right-hand door?

I bought a set of Kwikset Security locks which advertise "Fits All Doors" &
"Easy Installation". The Kwikset lock package contained two left-hand keyed
knobs and two deadbolts.

The problem is there is NOTHING on the package that indicates the two keyed
knobs are set up for left-handed doors (those with the hinge on the left).
My outside doors are right-hand doors (they have the hinge on the right).

It's crazy to me that Kwikset doesn't even SAY on the package that all my
lock cylinders will be upside down unless I can figure out how to switch
the Kwikset lock from being a left-hand knob to a right-hand knob.

Do you know how?

I googled only to find a very tough to follow description of the lock knob
keyhole reversing procedure sans pictures at
http://forum.doityourself.com/showthread.php?t=227800

Is there a PHOTOGRAPH or DIAGRAM of how to reverse a quickset lock that is
set up for a left-hand door to have the keyhole right-side up for a
right-hand door?

The instructions have room for Spanish, English, and French, but no room to
tell us how to install the lock such that the keyhole is right-side up.

Is the procedure to flip the Kwikset keyhole documented (with pictures)?

On Saturday, January 13, 2007 at 9:03:37 PM UTC-10, wrote:
How do we flip a left-hand Kwikset lock so it works on a right-hand door?

I bought a set of Kwikset Security locks which advertise "Fits All Doors" &
"Easy Installation". The Kwikset lock package contained two left-hand keyed
knobs and two deadbolts.

The problem is there is NOTHING on the package that indicates the two keyed
knobs are set up for left-handed doors (those with the hinge on the left).
My outside doors are right-hand doors (they have the hinge on the right).

It's crazy to me that Kwikset doesn't even SAY on the package that all my
lock cylinders will be upside down unless I can figure out how to switch
the Kwikset lock from being a left-hand knob to a right-hand knob.

Do you know how?

I googled only to find a very tough to follow description of the lock knob
keyhole reversing procedure sans pictures at
http://forum.doityourself.com/showthread.php?t=227800

Is there a PHOTOGRAPH or DIAGRAM of how to reverse a quickset lock that is
set up for a left-hand door to have the keyhole right-side up for a
right-hand door?

The instructions have room for Spanish, English, and French, but no room to
tell us how to install the lock such that the keyhole is right-side up.

Is the procedure to flip the Kwikset keyhole documented (with pictures)?

HD will flip it for you if you ask them. But you need to get one of the more experienced workers.